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    "I know nothing about Hawaii."

Let me help TPM...
    Hawaii is a string of islands and for good reason is situated some 2,000 miles southwest of the North American mainland.

    Depending who you talk to it is either our fiftieth state or our fifty-eighth state.

    Hawaii is the southernmost state of the United States, but doesn't act like it.

    Hawaii is the second westernmost state after Sarah Palin's Alaska©.

Hawaii is the only state of the United States that:
    Is not geographically located in North America. It's out in the Pacific Ocean somewhere. It may be close to the International dateline...depends on the tide. Ask Krak.

    Grows coffee.

    Inhabitants drink coffee...no surprise there.

    Is completely surrounded by water...Republican lawmakers' dream! Problem is they can't get elected there.

    Is entirely an archipelago in B-flat.

    Has a royal palace and more than a handful of Kmarts©.

    Has some hot-headed volcanoes that are always spouting off.

    Is the setting for the hit TV show Hawaii Five-0.

    Was the setting for the hit TV show Magnum PI.

    Home to a famous birth certificate.

    Does not have a straight line in its state boundary.

    Can not be seen from any point in Russia.

    Has the best Plate Lunch...bar none.










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Hawaii shared the regular season WAC conference title with Fresno State but came in second in the conference tournament. I guess I am more surprised that they did not win their tournament and gain an automatic bid than I am that they did not make the field of 64.

TPM - I think the 9th best in the SEC is still better than some of the conference champs. Tough conference. From the post selection show it sounds like they were definitely a bubble team that was considered.
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Originally posted by cheapseats:

TPM - I think the 9th best in the SEC is still better than some of the conference champs. Tough conference. From the post selection show it sounds like they were definitely a bubble team that was considered.


Most would agree but the conference champs deserve automatic bids.

People want to know how tough it is, these top conference teams beat up on each other, have winning records and still get no bid.

Although a decent RPI, I don't think LSU deserved a bid.
JMO.

Congratulations to the Clemson Tigers for a regional bid and to the Florida Gators, SEC champs!
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TPM - I think the 9th best in the SEC is still better than some of the conference champs. Tough conference. From the post selection show it sounds like they were definitely a bubble team that was considered.


Then let them join a smaller conference and win it! If we're going to just take all the teams from the bigger conferences, what's the point for the smaller schools?
Out of the 64 teams selected I am sure the best team in the nation is somewhere in there. There will always be teams left out that deserve to be in. There will always be teams selected that probably shouldnt be in. I did not think LSU deserved a bid. Very few road games. A very weak non conf schedule played at home. And a poor showing in their conference even though its the SEC.

There are several teams good enough to win this tourney that are not national seeds. UCLA is at the top of that list imo. With the one two puch that have on the hill they can beat anyone in a regional and super regional. There are some outstanding teams that are not national seeds that can win the NC this year.

Its going to be very exciting and pitching is going to rule in the post season. These regionals are going to be very good and your going to see some surprises. Before teams could simply slug their way thorugh a regional. Now there going to have to beat someone's ace in round one and counter with their ace or run the risk of going 0-1. Some teams might not be top 50 with anyone on the hill outside of #1 and #2. But when those guys are on the hill they are as good as anyone. It should be a lot of fun to watch.

Clemson is playing better than anyone in the ACC right now imo. UCLA with their pitching. Arkansas is very dangerous. And the fact is the west coast teams are way better than the rpi projects and the seeds show. Its going to be fun starting Friday.
Just because you have the LSU name on your jersey does not give you the right to a right to a spot in the tournament.

Coach May the LA regional is going to be brutal. Fresno, UC Irvine, and SF all are tough.

I am just now looking over the brackets. Good luck to Princeton who have to face Texas and Texas St and Kent state...

Houston looks tough, College Station, darn they all look brutal. Going to be some great baseball!
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Originally posted by Coach_May:

Its going to be fun starting Friday.



It's going to be interesting to see how a Georgia team that barely got selected that was barely over .500 yet had a stout RPI rating will do. I still don't care much for Perno in how he has treated his NLI recruits in the past, but at this point he has his team playing out of their mind. To win 3 in a row in the SEC tourney this weekend against Auburn, SC, and Florida to make it to the NCAA Regionals is insane.

They stand a very good chance of winning their Regional by luck of the draw. After that, all bets are off.

On a side note...did anyone else see the Florida catcher bean his pitcher (Brian Johnson) in the back of the head on a throw down to 2B..?? I couldn't believe my eyes!
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It's going to be a great tournament and there are going to be some great games. Wish it would get more TV coverage than what it will but it is better than it used to be.

YGD - I saw that and he gave Johnson a concussion and they think he might be able to pitch this weekend but not sure yet. Looked to me the catcher slipped and that's what caused the bad throw. I hope he makes a full recovery and the catcher is able to get over it. I know I would feel bad.
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On a side note...did anyone else see the Florida catcher bean his pitcher (Brian Johnson) in the back of the head on a throw down to 2B..?? I couldn't believe my eyes!


After having one of my pitchers get drilled in the back by a thrown ball, I'd believe it Wink I still don't really know how he got hit; I just know the ball got hit and the next thing I know the runner is on second base and my pitcher is throwing his glove around on the mound..
It'll be interesting to see how Savage lines up the pitching. Cole has been the Friday starter but Bauer has been the best pitcher. On the other hand they face a relatively weak but still very dangerous SF team in the first round of a double elim format.

I'd throw Bauer against SF myself given the importance of the first game in a double elim format.
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Originally posted by cheapseats:
Hawaii shared the regular season WAC conference title with Fresno State but came in second in the conference tournament. I guess I am more surprised that they did not win their tournament and gain an automatic bid than I am that they did not make the field of 64.

TPM - I think the 9th best in the SEC is still better than some of the conference champs. Tough conference. From the post selection show it sounds like they were definitely a bubble team that was considered.


Agreed. The SEC gets its share of bids, deservedly. A few factors played into LSU being left out. I've learned a lot of useless information in my years following college baseball. LSU probably beats conference tourney winners Belmont, U. Arkansas Little Rock and U. New Mexico more often than not, if they would just play them on the road.

A few bids are stolen each year, automatic entries won in conference tournaments. This year there were four "stolen bids", one or two more than normal. LSU slips a bit there.

LSU had a pathetic non-conference road record, in addition to their non-confernece home record full of cupcakes. LSU went on the road playing 4-50 U. New Orleans (transitioning to D3), Nichols State and Tulane (shadow of its former self).

The Committee had to look at LSU with an overblown SEC RPI, a (3-0) nonexistant non-conference road record, a crummy conference record and a home non-conference record of wins against many early season northern cupcakes. What therein tells them LSU will clean up on the road in a Regional?

Throw in the Committee's incessant desire to "grow the game" and include as many teams north of the Mason Dixon line as possible, and Voila...St. John's is in, leaving the Tigers home. There is nothing to grow in Baton Rouge.

I watched a few LSU games this year. Take them out of the SEC and put them in a mid-major conference and they were a 75+ RPI team, talentwise. Not so much this year. They had closers that couldn't close and hitters that couldn't hit.

Link to LSU Column.
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Originally posted by spizzlepop:
A little help here por favor. Clearly I wasn't paying attention, but wasn't ASU quarantined from post season play in 2011 for an outbreak of Infectious Murphytosis?

ASU appealed the suspension, and by rule the penalty isn't applied until the appeal has been ruled on.

Not sure why the appeal hasn't alredy been decided.
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Dad04:
LSU had a pathetic non-conference road record, in addition to their non-confernece home record full of cupcakes. LSU went on the road playing 4-50 U. New Orleans (transitioning to D3), Nichols State and Tulane (shadow of its former self).

The Committee had to look at LSU with an overblown SEC RPI, a (3-0) nonexistant non-conference road record, a crummy conference record and a home non-conference record of wins against many early season northern cupcakes. What therein tells them LSU will clean up on the road in a Regional?

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They did this to GTech a few years back, they left them out of the 64 field. These type of teams used to play easier non conference teams at home and win and it didn't matter how they did in conference, they got a bid, a lot depending on the fact that teams like LSU travel well and produce HUGE profits at any gate.
They still manipulate the field in that respect (who sells tickets), and as much as the odds are stacked against the smaller conference teams, it's great for their program to boast a trip to the NCAA playoffs.

Yup, Coastal has to get by Clemson, UConn to meet up with SCar. That's a really tough one for all.
With the NCAA field of 64 now out, I think it is a great time to analyze the growth of college baseball in the northeast. Out of the 16 Regionals, 0 are in the northeast. There are under 10 teams in the entire tournament that are legit northeast teams.

Is this OK or are there changes that need to be made? If so, is it simply expanding the tournament to allow more teams and/or guaranteeing a certain amount of northeast teams to host a Regional.

Is there any solution or is the fact that the best players will go down South inevitable? I do think that the tournament needs to expand to allow more teams in, but unlike basketball when you add another team, you add more than one extra game (increase round robin and such)

I really don't know if there is a real opportunity to grow baseball in the northeast but putting every Regional down south, not televising games on stations northeners watch regularly, and not creating some type of system to give an incentive for northeast schools to fully fund their programs, I think in a lot of ways the northern expansion of baseball has slowed to a standstill.

Having played college baseball in upstate NY ( Binghamton 2005-2009) I know there is quality baseball in the northeast, but I do question if there is a way to ever truly compete with the south.

Ken Jacobi
Author of "Going with the Pitch: Adjusting to Baseball, School, and Life as a Division I College Athlete"
My son hung up the cleats last May and no longer plays for Dallas Baptist, but we are still huge DBU fans. What a thrilling day for the Patriots! To score the tying run in the 9th and then the go-ahead run in the 10th against a contender from last year's CWS was unbelievable. DBU faces the winner of tonight's TCU-Oral Roberts game on Saturday night -- to be broadcast on www.espn3.com. DBU has already beaten TCU twice this season (once at home, once away), so it is certainly not impossible for them to do it again.
Wow!
Dallas Baptist wins over OK, Austin Peay beats GTech, Arkansas-Little Rock beats Oregon State, Creighton (who says those northern teams can't compete) beats GA, San Francisco ahead of UCLA in the 6th. Stetson wins over NCState. Troy wins, OSU loses. Charlotte beats out Arkansas.
Charlotte might be the best team no one talks about. Outstanding pitching. Clutch hitters. Very very good baseball team. I had Arkansas as one of my sleepers until I saw they were matched up with Charlotte. This one did not surprise me. Oklahoma losing did. Ga Tech losing did not. And UCLA down 3-0 in the 9th is a shocker to me but I have to admit I dont know much about SF. They must be pretty good.

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