If you are watching, the LSU lefty belongs to one of our Webster's (guess who)!
How neat is that!!!!
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TPM posted:If you are watching, the LSU lefty belongs to one of our Webster's (guess who)!
How neat is that!!!!
Pretty darn cool! That has to be an awesome experience.
You are right SHU, it is no matter what the outcome.
Looks like Beavs got a lot to prove, they arent backing down.
I didn't see OSU play a lot because they're a west coast team but I knew that you don't lose only four games unless you're legit. I don't care what conference you play in - that's impressive!
Whether they win the whole thing or not, OSU is a damn good team.
OSU they are super special in my opinion. Ive watched them a lot and 1-9 at the plate solid. Defense, offense. Pitching. They are really good. All the teams are good but OSU in my opinion are like a magic season. I think they win it.
hshuler posted:I didn't see OSU play a lot because they're a west coast team but I knew that you don't lose only four games unless you're legit. I don't care what conference you play in - that's impressive!
Whether they win the whole thing or not, OSU is a damn good team.
Yes they are.
As much as I would love to see Florida vs OSU, I am thinking Louisville vs OSU.
Louisville and OSU be fun to watch. I like both of those teams.
ACC needs to bring home the championship.
Naw. Pac 12⚾️⚾️⚾️⚾️❤️⚾️⚾️❤️
TPM posted:You are right SHU, it is no matter what the outcome.
Looks like Beavs got a lot to prove, they arent backing down.
I don't think Oregon St. has anything to prove to anyone, in terms of being one of the elite programs in college baseball and one of the very best in Omaha. I say that realizing those in the ACC and SEC think college baseball ends at the Mississippi.... or maybe College Station, TX. 
I have also seen LSU play a lot this year and they have a few seniors who came back just to win a 'ship.
Again, I don't know if they'll win but they won't go down without a knockdown dragout.
infielddad posted:TPM posted:You are right SHU, it is no matter what the outcome.
Looks like Beavs got a lot to prove, they arent backing down.
I don't think Oregon St. has anything to prove to anyone, in terms of being one of the elite programs in college baseball and one of the very best in Omaha. I say that realizing those in the ACC and SEC think college baseball ends at the Mississippi.... or maybe College Station, TX.
I didnt mean that, but rather overcoming adversity, not allowing the past few weeks to affect them.
infielddad posted:TPM posted:You are right SHU, it is no matter what the outcome.
Looks like Beavs got a lot to prove, they arent backing down.
I don't think Oregon St. has anything to prove to anyone, in terms of being one of the elite programs in college baseball and one of the very best in Omaha. I say that realizing those in the ACC and SEC think college baseball ends at the Mississippi.... or maybe College Station, TX.
LOL
Yes, Oregon State has two national titles in the not-too-distant past (2006 & 2007) and they were the no. 1 national seed heading into this tournament. Whether they'll win or not, who knows, but I don't why they would have a lot to prove -- or any more to prove than any of the other teams.
I'm not going there!
For anyone who has a son who is signed, verballed or hopes to play college baseball, Oregon State, in my view, is a must watch. They play such a precise game, almost never make a mental mistake and don't beat themselves.
They may not have the best 9 or 35. They certainly are not the biggest, physically. Gosh, I would take Louisville if we stood each 9 side by side.
OSU can play the best. College baseball about is about physical execution and mental focus, in my view. The gap between Fullerton and OSU is small but looks pretty big in Omaha.
hshuler posted:I have also seen LSU play a lot this year and they have a few seniors who came back just to win a 'ship.
Again, I don't know if they'll win but they won't go down without a knockdown dragout.
I'm certainly no OSU fan, but LSU sure went down pretty hard tonight w/o much of a tussle.
TPM...
DesertDuck posted:hshuler posted:I have also seen LSU play a lot this year and they have a few seniors who came back just to win a 'ship.
Again, I don't know if they'll win but they won't go down without a knockdown dragout.
I'm certainly no OSU fan, but LSU sure went down pretty hard tonight w/o much of a tussle.
You're right, Duck but sometimes you just get ambushed.
BOF posted:TPM...
You know it BOF!
I think that the starter going down so quickly changed the mojo. The entire vibe can change in an instant, it happens.
That's baseball.
TPM posted:I think that the starter going down so quickly changed the mojo. The entire vibe can change in an instant, it happens.
That's baseball.
Agreed!
Walker has been good all year but especially during the postseason.
I'm a big enough man to take my medicine. We played the absolute worst game we have played all year. I'm not taking anything away from OSU. They are a very good team and play a really good style of baseball. But, I can assure you tonight wasn't a fair representation of LSU baseball. Hopefully we will flush this one, get past FSU and get another crack at OSU. The outcome may not be any different, but I would like to think we would be more competitive. On another note, it was so very cool to see my son on the mound pitching in that atmosphere after all he has been through over the past couple of years.
Which one is your son as there were 8 pitchers? Im not familiar with who he is? Is he the fifth year red shirt they talked about ? That was cool story . i love getting to hear the players stories and getting to know some of them as you watch omaha each year .
OSU 2nd basemen is really fun to watch .
I can not imagine watching my son play in Omaha. What an awesome experience.
LSU is good year in and out. Losing the starting pitcher maybe rattled the team some.
Good luck on next Game
younggun posted:I'm a big enough man to take my medicine. We played the absolute worst game we have played all year. I'm not taking anything away from OSU. They are a very good team and play a really good style of baseball. But, I can assure you tonight wasn't a fair representation of LSU baseball. Hopefully we will flush this one, get past FSU and get another crack at OSU. The outcome may not be any different, but I would like to think we would be more competitive. On another note, it was so very cool to see my son on the mound pitching in that atmosphere after all he has been through over the past couple of years.
Son was the losing pitcher when he was in Omaha. We were #1 seed that year and we stunk. So I understand, however, this is something your son will always remember, in a good way.
And you will too. 
I started this topic ONLY because no matter what, seeing a HSBBWebster's son on the bump in Omaha was just awesome!
fanofgame posted:Louisville and OSU be fun to watch. I like both of those teams.
I don't really like either of those teams. OSU fans were the harshest, most difficult, most rude in the Pac12 through both sons. But Pat Casey pulled our younger son aside after the last time he pitched against them and said some incredibly nice things - so given that and the fact that they're from the Pac12 and given how much I strongly dislike UL, I guess I'll go with OSU if thats what it comes down too.
I am an SEC guy. Why in the world would anyone want to go to play in that weather at OSU? Watched a game of theirs a week or so ago and the people in the crowd had on winter gear in a lite rain. Not my kind of weather for June!
Tigers vs Beavers.....Is the game over? My wife and I turned the channel to watch HGTV (Home and Gardening Channel). Trust me, there was more going on with HGTV than the Tiger offense. That is a fact.
stayfocused posted:I am an SEC guy. Why in the world would anyone want to go to play in that weather at OSU? Watched a game of theirs a week or so ago and the people in the crowd had on winter gear in a lite rain. Not my kind of weather for June!
I think it speaks volumes about the abilities of the coach - to both recruit to that weather and to have a system that is so successful.
I said above that the fans are difficult - which is true - but that also makes it attractive to recruits. Their stadium culture and atmosphere is absolutely electric. Packed house, rabid fans, very nice venue. Very tough to beat them in their park. And their fans travel well too.
I also think that the state of Washington routinely produces pretty good players that often end up at OSU and CA kids started wanting to go to Oregon for school (baseball or not) about 15 years ago. Some of that is because of difficult admissions into the Univ. of Calif. system, some is due to Ducks football...but some is also undoubtedly due to Casey's program at OSU.
Which one is your son as there were 8 pitchers? Im not familiar with who he is? Is he the fifth year red shirt they talked about ? That was cool story . i love getting to hear the players stories and getting to know some of them as you watch omaha each year .
OSU 2nd basemen is really fun to watch .
I can not imagine watching my son play in Omaha. What an awesome experience.
LSU is good year in and out. Losing the starting pitcher maybe rattled the team some.
Good luck on next Game
Fan, my son was the third pitcher, Nick Bush. He is a redshirt freshman and has rehabbed back from 2 back to back surgeries. He initially had ulnar nerve transposition surgery then UCL reconstruction. He is still struggling with control, but he did flash 92 last night with a couple other 91s. His velo is back, we just hope he can go off this summer and find his control, as that was his strong suit pre-injury.
TPM, no problem. Last night happens in baseball. I get it and have no issues with it. I've watched that team play 60+ games this year. No matter what happens the rest of our stay in Omaha, there is no doubt we belonged here. Hopefully we can get back to playing the way we have over the last 6 weeks. And you are correct, that memory last night I will cherish forever!
Enjoy your time there young gun - our son played there in 2008 (Stanford) and those are some of the very best memories in our lives. My wife and I were talking about that just last night.
Same son also had TJ in 2014. Velo came back (and rose) fairly quickly - command was another thing. Everyone in his organization at the time (Nationals) told him that was all normal. I'd say it was another year before command was decent again. Oh, he could throw strikes, he just couldn't stick the pitch where he wanted in the strike zone. He found if quite frustrating.
Good luck to your son - I think I missed that part of the game when he pitched.
LSU is my favorite college team so I was rooting for the Tigers. Oregon State played well but I'll remind everyone that LSU is still in it, and have shown time & time again this season that they are capable of incredible comebacks
infielddad posted:TPM posted:You are right SHU, it is no matter what the outcome.
Looks like Beavs got a lot to prove, they arent backing down.
I don't think Oregon St. has anything to prove to anyone, in terms of being one of the elite programs in college baseball and one of the very best in Omaha. I say that realizing those in the ACC and SEC think college baseball ends at the Mississippi.... or maybe College Station, TX.
The PAC 12 has four CWS championships in the past eleven years. Oregon State has two of them. OSU and the PAC 12 have nothing to prove. People just don't stay up late and watch so they're unaware.
younggun posted:I'm a big enough man to take my medicine. We played the absolute worst game we have played all year. I'm not taking anything away from OSU. They are a very good team and play a really good style of baseball. But, I can assure you tonight wasn't a fair representation of LSU baseball. Hopefully we will flush this one, get past FSU and get another crack at OSU. The outcome may not be any different, but I would like to think we would be more competitive. On another note, it was so very cool to see my son on the mound pitching in that atmosphere after all he has been through over the past couple of years.
You're not as good as your best game or as bad as your worst. One run or getting smoked the result is the same with a good team. Time to look towards the next game.
YG,
Good to meet you in regular season and see you during SR. Sent chill bumps getting to watch Nick pitch. Good luck to him rest of the way. I do hope that Walker is okay. Pray that it is not a precursor to TJ surgery.
You as well RFF. I was late getting to the game so I missed Eric coming out. Not really sure what's wrong, but I hope it's nothing serious as well. Look forward to watching some more games with you over the next couple of years.
RJM posted:infielddad posted:TPM posted:You are right SHU, it is no matter what the outcome.
Looks like Beavs got a lot to prove, they arent backing down.
I don't think Oregon St. has anything to prove to anyone, in terms of being one of the elite programs in college baseball and one of the very best in Omaha. I say that realizing those in the ACC and SEC think college baseball ends at the Mississippi.... or maybe College Station, TX.
The PAC 12 has four CWS championships in the past eleven years. Oregon State has two of them. OSU and the PAC 12 have nothing to prove. People just don't stay up late and watch so they're unaware.
In 2006, OSU was the cinderella team. We were on same bus with some of the players one night, they felt they were being disrespected because people said they didnt belong there.
Ha Ha. They won the championship and have been among the elite since then.
We east coasters are just not as familiar due to time zones, and I agree that is why some arent aware.
I know that I will get beat up for this, but IMO SEC is the toughest conference and I expect LSU will fight back.
Can we agree that there is good baseball all over the country?
I live in GA and watch the ACC & SEC all the time but that doesn't mean that I can't appreciate the accomplishments of teams who don't play in those conferences.
I'm a fan of good baseball and the CWS is as exciting to me as any sporting event.
I agree with TPM that the SEC is probably the toughest conference in baseball. Power arms and power bodies. Just look at the physicality of some of the LSU players compared to Oregon...however look who won and has fielded one of the most dominating teams in college history? I don't think Bryce Fehmel threw a pitch over 90.
This is one of the reasons college baseball is so much fun to watch, particularly at the Regional and CWS level as you get to see so many of the top teams fielding radically different styles of baseball, I really am sad that Davidson did not make it through, and wished that CSF was not bracketed with OSU. To me this is the best time of the year for baseball. Congrats to Youngun's son, wow what an experience that must have been!
I spent 30 years watching Pac10/12 baseball - 8 of those years quite intensely. I've spent the last 3 years watching ACC baseball. I really don't see a difference...with the naked eye.
Historically though, the Pac12 has won nearly half of all of the CWS titles, far outpacing other conferences. The ACC has won 2 in the past 60 years. From my naked eye perspective, its not totally obvious why that is other than USC was completely dominant for so long.
younggun posted:You as well RFF. I was late getting to the game so I missed Eric coming out. Not really sure what's wrong, but I hope it's nothing serious as well. Look forward to watching some more games with you over the next couple of years.
He was fine. Its tough being out there, millions watching. He did his job, got the 3rd out.
This kind of what its like in proball, takes a while to shake off the nerves.
Would love to see east vs west thing.
FSU vs OSU.
Florida State Fan posted:Would love to see east vs west thing.
FSU vs OSU.
How about Florida v. Oregon State? It would be east-west. I even let out an evil laugh as I typed it. FSU and OSU are in the same bracket.
I was streaming the game at my son's game last night. It's cool to watch kids you know play in that atmosphere. A couple of those kids are from my son's club team. In fact, his club coach was there and posting lots of great pictures. Being around talent like Rutschman wears off on the younger kids. He is truly a special athlete. If OSU ever gets low on pitchers, they could always throw him out there for his 90+ stuff off the mound.
YoungGun - I hope the two teams get to play again on Friday. I think it will be a different game. Best of luck to your son.
I'm going to give a shout out to Kyle Boddy and Driveline here. OSU is a Driveline program and I believe they were pretty early adopters of some their stuff. Yeskie is an amazing pitching coach and has developed a top notch pitching program.
We've had a horrible winter and spring in the NW. Record snowfall and rain fall. It's not usually quite this bad, but the unofficial start to summer is July 5th. All the college fields around here are turf, so you learn to play in the rain. Heck, this year, we played in the hail a couple times.
Go Beavs!
Florida State Fan posted:Would love to see east vs west thing.
FSU vs OSU.
If FSU is ACC representation, I will too!
I spoke with a client in omaha today, i didnt realize opening ceremonies were canceled last week.
She told me that even though something is missing not being in Rosenblatt, she loves this time of year, and I told we do too!
kandkfunk posted:We've had a horrible winter and spring in the NW. Record snowfall and rain fall. It's not usually quite this bad, but the unofficial start to summer is July 5th. All the college fields around here are turf, so you learn to play in the rain. Heck, this year, we played in the hail a couple times.
Go Beavs!
As a youth player my son hated it when the coaches called outside practice while it was snowing!
Iowamom23 posted:kandkfunk posted:We've had a horrible winter and spring in the NW. Record snowfall and rain fall. It's not usually quite this bad, but the unofficial start to summer is July 5th. All the college fields around here are turf, so you learn to play in the rain. Heck, this year, we played in the hail a couple times.
Go Beavs!
As a youth player my son hated it when the coaches called outside practice while it was snowing!
Everything on the West side of the state completely shuts down with even 1 inch of snow. It's pandemonium. You wouldn't even be able to get to practice if it were held. The East side of the state is another story. Contrary to popular belief, Eastern Washington & Oregon are dry, high deserts with very low amounts of rain fall. They do, however, get a lot of snow in the winter. They probably practice in the snow over there.
Gators!
I am not adding in fans or crowds. I just enjoy OSU team this year. They are fun to watch.
Casey is tough and his players play old school grind it out baseball.
Plus I go for Pac 12 cause thats my sons conference. He thinks osu looks special as well. We will see
any team there is respected by me. Season is a grind and playoffs are funny because anything can happen.
When you see so many of these teans there every year thats a darn good program .
TPM, can you change the heading of this thread to "CWS-17" or something similar? This has become the defacto CWS thread and would allow others to potentially see it.
This is baseball at it's finest IMO, great players who are really enjoying the moment, and like FOG mentioned anything can happen.
BOF posted:TPM, can you change the heading of this thread to "CWS-17" or something similar? This has become the defacto CWS thread and would allow others to potentially see it.
This is baseball at it's finest IMO, great players who are really enjoying the moment, and like FOG mentioned anything can happen.
Done!
Nice TPM.
Rematch of LSU and FSU tonight. Edge to LSU IMO based on their pitching, but anything is possible.
Popcorn is ready!
FSU is digging themselves a hole right now, down 5-0 in the second.
The thing I always try to remember in these games is that, no matter what happens, every player is a parents son , who, is likely in the stands.
One thing I have learned, is that you never count Mike Martin out!
Crazy story McDonald just told about Cal Ripken calling his games from SS. Anybody ever heard of such a thing?
Freshman closer for LSU (Hess)....Damn, give 'em the heater Ricky!
And that curve ball is......filthy!
LOL
Kid is fun to watch
That was not a strike!!!!
JCG. That was a crazy story. Amazing.
TPM. I agree but the ump wanted to get home. 
Well we live to play at least one more time. Should be interesting with Lange on the bump. Hopefully our bats woke up tonight. If Lange is his usual self it should be a good game. We are having a blast!
For those who are not aware d1baseball.com does a great job reporting on the CWS. Here is a nice piece on Coach Martin from FSU. I was aware he was a great coach, but not fully informed on how impressive his accomplishments were. This is a must read for a college baseball fan.
JCG posted:Crazy story McDonald just told about Cal Ripken calling his games from SS. Anybody ever heard of such a thing?
I think George Will wrote about Cal Ripken Jr doing it in Men at Work.
Swampboy posted:JCG posted:Crazy story McDonald just told about Cal Ripken calling his games from SS. Anybody ever heard of such a thing?
I think George Will wrote about Cal Ripken Jr doing it in Men at Work.
Good call Swampboy!
Great read on Coach Martin. I love that guy. Ive read about him and followed him. He is a class act. If We had to do it over we would of looked more for a coach like this. He gets it all including the school part. Winning Omaha is the icing on a already great cake. Ive heard the experience alone is unforgettable. We need to hold these types of coaches and othere like him in high regard. Tim Corban and TCU coach and Virginias. There are others.
I do hope in my heart he wins it all beore he retires but he is great .
Just like watching Coastal coach win it last year was special.
I was just talking with my son last night when FSU was playing and we both really like Coach Martin. Ive watched him for years, his interviews, read about him. Hes one of my favorites.
Swampboy posted:JCG posted:Crazy story McDonald just told about Cal Ripken calling his games from SS. Anybody ever heard of such a thing?
I think George Will wrote about Cal Ripken Jr doing it in Men at Work.
I read that 25 years ago and completely forgot about that.
JCG posted:Swampboy posted:JCG posted:Crazy story McDonald just told about Cal Ripken calling his games from SS. Anybody ever heard of such a thing?
I think George Will wrote about Cal Ripken Jr doing it in Men at Work.
I read that 25 years ago and completely forgot about that.
It's worth re-reading. I'm overdue myself.
I 100 PERCENT agree on Coach Martin. What a great man. What a classy person. He loves his players and he builds a family at FSU. I hope one day he can win it all. But regardless if he does or not he is a winner and has done it the right way. We need more men like Coach Martin , period.
fanofgame posted:Great read on Coach Martin. I love that guy. Ive read about him and followed him. He is a class act. If We had to do it over we would of looked more for a coach like this. He gets it all including the school part. Winning Omaha is the icing on a already great cake. Ive heard the experience alone is unforgettable. We need to hold these types of coaches and othere like him in high regard. Tim Corban and TCU coach and Virginias. There are others.
I do hope in my heart he wins it all beore he retires but he is great .
Just like watching Coastal coach win it last year was special.
I was just talking with my son last night when FSU was playing and we both really like Coach Martin. Ive watched him for years, his interviews, read about him. Hes one of my favorites.
FSU was eliminated last night. I am not a fan of MM, but kudos to him for going out on top as ACC Champs and making it to Omaha.
Boy TCU is relentless. Love the way they play the game. Scoring 3 runs all with 2 outs and 3 stolen bases.
Coach Martin has always been a class act. I watched FSU play few times at Tallahassee when daughter was a student and here in Cary NC. Awesome group. We'll be back next year.
I can't help thinking if anybody can beat this Oregon State team. They are 56-4 on the season. That is absolutely ridiculous. LSU has to beat them twice to advance. That is one steep hill. Good luck to all the teams and their fans.
I just hope we can have some back and forth games and some late inning drama. It just seems one team gets the lead and it pretty much is over after that. OSU is really good. Don't beat themselves and they make things happen. What they have accomplished this year is simply amazing. That record is insane. I hope LSU wins and TCU wins so we can watch a couple of extra games.
I'm hoping they can find a replay system that works!! Louisville can't be happy after last night's debacle. Why bother having it if it's not going to work?
LSU beat OSU, no one is unbeatable. Its anyones game. Both face elimination tomorrow.
I thought Louisville would come close, but they play better at home.
So with the ACC teams eliminated, got to go with Florida.
Don't give up on us TPM. We need ALL the help we can get. Haha
younggun posted:Don't give up on us TPM. We need ALL the help we can get. Haha
I won't.... Go Tigers! Beat Beavers!
Tigers v Gators!!
Hope you are having a blast.
TPM posted:LSU beat OSU, no one is unbeatable. Its anyones game. Both face elimination tomorrow.
I thought Louisville would come close, but they play better at home.
So with the ACC teams eliminated, got to go with Florida.
Some of us are still at work waiting to watch it on the DVR...
All I know is TCU's pitcher is getting absolutely hosed by this umpire.
real green posted:TPM posted:LSU beat OSU, no one is unbeatable. Its anyones game. Both face elimination tomorrow.
I thought Louisville would come close, but they play better at home.
So with the ACC teams eliminated, got to go with Florida.
Some of us are still at work waiting to watch it on the DVR...
You can get scores at D1baseball.com.
Yes TPM, I can say this has to be as close to Heaven as I can get here on earth. Obviously I want to win it all but no matter, this has truly been the experience of a lifetime.
Told you guys not to count out LSU!!!! Gonna be tough to take 2 straight from Oregon State but they have the opportunity to do just that tomorrow.
Two elimination games, with a first round pick on the mound in each game, makes for a lot of drama.
It's too bad the umpires missed the call in the third inning of the OSU - LSU game. Would have been interesting to see how that shook out.
2019Dad posted:Two elimination games, with a first round pick on the mound in each game, makes for a lot of drama.
It's too bad the umpires missed the call in the third inning of the OSU - LSU game. Would have been interesting to see how that shook out.
That's a reviewable play, right?
hshuler posted:2019Dad posted:Two elimination games, with a first round pick on the mound in each game, makes for a lot of drama.
It's too bad the umpires missed the call in the third inning of the OSU - LSU game. Would have been interesting to see how that shook out.
That's a reviewable play, right?
Yes. Crew chief should have called for review, and Coach Casey should have asked for review, too.
2019Dad posted:hshuler posted:2019Dad posted:Two elimination games, with a first round pick on the mound in each game, makes for a lot of drama.
It's too bad the umpires missed the call in the third inning of the OSU - LSU game. Would have been interesting to see how that shook out.
That's a reviewable play, right?
Yes. Crew chief should have called for review, and Coach Casey should have asked for review, too.
He admitted it in post game interview.
I do not understand why Casey did not ask for it??? They were saying Pac 12 doesnt allow it in regular season.
LSU pitching was very good yesterday.
LSU seems to have the momentum as they just hit three run bomb.
Gotta give the LSU kid credit for pounding that spot, as it's working for him. But this PU's zone is ridiculous. I feel like I'm watching one of our HS league games.
WOW! No dog in the fight and usually the last person to turn attention to umpires but the missed ball/strike calls have totally changed the complexion of this game thru the first 2 1/2 innings. Several balls well outside called strikes against OSU and a clear strike called a ball was a big factor in pivotal AB's when LSU hitting, including the kid that hit the 3 run HR.
Please, let these two very good teams decide the outcome with their play. Please let the attention get back to good baseball.
Yeah I hate to blame umpires and not taking anything away from either team but that strike zone is really horrible.
Listened on Sirius. Sounds like O'Sullivan is melting.
Unfortunately, I have an adopted dog in the fight (KJ Harrison went to my kids' HS), and I am trying to be rational, but those strikes that are being called in the batter's box OPPOSITE of the hitter are ridiculous.
The LSU pitcher is throwing a great game. He doesn't need the help.
Go44dad posted:Listened on Sirius. Sounds like O'Sullivan is melting.
That should be OSU Autocorrct
Go44dad posted:Go44dad posted:Listened on Sirius. Sounds like O'Sullivan is melting.
That should be OSU Autocorrct
Thanks, I thought that I missed something.
Doesn't matter how screwy the ump's strike zone is, you can't expect to be in a game with just one hit.
Let's see Bush!
LSU deserved to win....but you can not have this kind of umpiring in the CWS. That was inexcusable.
BOF posted:LSU deserved to win....but you can not have this kind of umpiring in the CWS. That was inexcusable.
Yup. Didn't really care who won - but that was bad...really bad. Disappointing that would happen in such a critical game.
Totally agree. It's tough enough already. Yes LSU deserved to win. But I'm sorry there is no excuse for that.
smokeminside posted:Doesn't matter how screwy the ump's strike zone is, you can't expect to be in a game with just one hit.
A zone that bad can really take a good disciplined offense out of sync. I was a bit surprised, though, that OSU hitters generally didn't appear to make an adjustment and get on the plate more to negate that outside pitch that was being called. The LSU P's weren't really working the inside third.
Hope the next game and the finals are back to good baseball games without that painful distraction. Congrats to LSU... am happy for those connected to that program here!
cabbagedad posted:smokeminside posted:Doesn't matter how screwy the ump's strike zone is, you can't expect to be in a game with just one hit.
A zone that bad can really take a good disciplined offense out of sync. I was a bit surprised, though, that OSU hitters generally didn't appear to make an adjustment and get on the plate more to negate that outside pitch that was being called. The LSU P's weren't really working the inside third.
Hope the next game and the finals are back to good baseball games without that painful distraction. Congrats to LSU... am happy for those connected to that program here!
Both teams had the same zone. From OSU's missed chance at asking for a replay, to Casey and team coming unglued and not adjusting to the strike zone to Casey's choice to not start Rasmussen, a first round draft choice, OSU missed their chance. Sometimes the better team doesn't have the best record. OSU faced very little adversity in the season, but more than they could handle in the last 24.
Now go TCU!
Go44dad posted:cabbagedad posted:smokeminside posted:Doesn't matter how screwy the ump's strike zone is, you can't expect to be in a game with just one hit.
A zone that bad can really take a good disciplined offense out of sync. I was a bit surprised, though, that OSU hitters generally didn't appear to make an adjustment and get on the plate more to negate that outside pitch that was being called. The LSU P's weren't really working the inside third.
Hope the next game and the finals are back to good baseball games without that painful distraction. Congrats to LSU... am happy for those connected to that program here!
Both teams had the same zone. From OSU's missed chance at asking for a replay, to Casey and team coming unglued and not adjusting to the strike zone to Casey's choice to not start Rasmussen, a first round draft choice, OSU missed their chance. Sometimes the better team doesn't have the best record. OSU faced very little adversity in the season, but more than they could handle in the last 24.
Now go TCU!
Never drive or fly your best available pitcher home with innings left in his arm.
Just my $.02.
By the way, every LSU freshman class since 1982 has made it to the CWS at least once. Pretty amazing!
hshuler posted:By the way, every LSU freshman class since 1982 has made it to the CWS at least once. Pretty amazing!
Thats amazing!
FWIW, as of today, LSU has played 70 games and OSU 62.
I may be wrong but I believe they had high school SS's starting at positions 3, 4, 5, 6, 8 & 9.
A scout friend of mine picked them to win it because he said they are the most athletic team in the country.
Hats of to OSU on a fantastic season!
Go44dad posted:cabbagedad posted:smokeminside posted:Doesn't matter how screwy the ump's strike zone is, you can't expect to be in a game with just one hit.
A zone that bad can really take a good disciplined offense out of sync. I was a bit surprised, though, that OSU hitters generally didn't appear to make an adjustment and get on the plate more to negate that outside pitch that was being called. The LSU P's weren't really working the inside third.
Hope the next game and the finals are back to good baseball games without that painful distraction. Congrats to LSU... am happy for those connected to that program here!
Both teams had the same zone. ...
Go44, I think you mentioned earlier that you were listening to the game. You may want to watch the replay of the game. In my opinion and that of all of the announcers, both teams definitely did not have the same zone. Like I said before, no dog, so no bias other than just what I observed. It sounds like many posters here thought that as well.
cabbagedad posted:Go44dad posted:cabbagedad posted:smokeminside posted:Doesn't matter how screwy the ump's strike zone is, you can't expect to be in a game with just one hit.
A zone that bad can really take a good disciplined offense out of sync. I was a bit surprised, though, that OSU hitters generally didn't appear to make an adjustment and get on the plate more to negate that outside pitch that was being called. The LSU P's weren't really working the inside third.
Hope the next game and the finals are back to good baseball games without that painful distraction. Congrats to LSU... am happy for those connected to that program here!
Both teams had the same zone. ...
Go44, I think you mentioned earlier that you were listening to the game. You may want to watch the replay of the game. In my opinion and that of all of the announcers, both teams definitely did not have the same zone. Like I said before, no dog, so no bias other than just what I observed. It sounds like many posters here thought that as well.
Didn't see a pitch. Heard all of the game on the radio. Just can't buy the wide zone cost OSU their "spot" in the finals. Better team with the better coaching won two in a row.
SEC showdown folks!
Should be good! Here's hoping it goes three games.
I thought the zone was consistently bad, but without looking it up I think:
1. OSU had more leftys
2. LSU did a much better job exploiting the zone
For the life of me I can't understand how that foul ball wasn't reviewed. Maybe overconfidence on OSU's part. That could have changed the outcome.
That was a HUGE mistake pitch on the 3 run jack. Open base, runners on 2nd and 3rd with two outs.
real green posted:I thought the zone was consistently bad, but without looking it up I think:
1. OSU had more leftys
2. LSU did a much better job exploiting the zone
For the life of me I can't understand how that foul ball wasn't reviewed. Maybe overconfidence on OSU's part. That could have changed the outcome.
That was a HUGE mistake pitch on the 3 run jack. Open base, runners on 2nd and 3rd with two outs.
All really good points.
real green posted:I thought the zone was consistently bad, but without looking it up I think:
1. OSU had more leftys
2. LSU did a much better job exploiting the zone
For the life of me I can't understand how that foul ball wasn't reviewed. Maybe overconfidence on OSU's part. That could have changed the outcome.
That was a HUGE mistake pitch on the 3 run jack. Open base, runners on 2nd and 3rd with two outs.
I heard from the guys calling the game for Sirius that time ran out on OSU staff in clubhouse on making a decision to review and getting the word to Casey. They saw a review of ball hitting the yellow line, but just didn't get word to him in time. It's easy to second guess, don't really know how things happened but n clubhouse.
TPM posted:SEC showdown folks!
Worst possible outcome ever. Now we have to listen to Ben McDonald and Kyle Peterson ramble on and on about the SEC ad nauseum. One team is ok, but two teams....serenity now!
fenwaysouth posted:TPM posted:SEC showdown folks!
Worst possible outcome ever. Now we have to listen to Ben McDonald and Kyle Peterson ramble on and on about the SEC ad nauseum. One team is ok, but two teams....serenity now!
Yep. Worst possible matchup in my opinion. My interest in watching took a huge hit.
Both teams deserve to be in the final...however my hope is that the NCAA takes a hard look at the umpiring debacle from this year and makes adjustments to the replay and assignments, you can't have an SEC ump behind the dish in one the final games. (I realize hope and NCAA in one sentence is sketchy) On the positive side, we are not hearing about the lack of HR's this year. Should be fun to watch, but it seems a bit like a kissing your sister situation.
BOF posted:you can't have an SEC ump behind the dish in one the final games.
1. Assignments are decided well before the games.
2. This isn't like college football, where officials are generally in one conference. Most work at least three D1 conferences--if you were to say that a CWS official can't have worked in either team's conference, you eliminate a significant number of officials, particularly if the teams are geographically separated.
Matt13 posted:1. Assignments are decided well before the games.
2. This isn't like college football, where officials are generally in one conference. Most work at least three D1 conferences--if you were to say that a CWS official can't have worked in either team's conference, you eliminate a significant number of officials, particularly if the teams are geographically separated.
1) Assignments can be changed. The NCAA is one of the most powerful money-making, lawyer-driven monopolies on earth. They can do whatever they damn well please.
2) There is no negotiated labor agreement with an umpiring union as there is in MLB. See 1) above.
BOF - You are correct. It has been a CWS umpiring debacle. The regionals and super-regionals were much better officiated. When I look back at the MLB a few years ago when we didn't have instant replay, it reminds me of this situation. Instant replay is a tool to help the umpires not be put in this situation. Yes, they do almost always get it right, but in this case they haven't. They need help. NCAA CWS umpiring needs alot of modernizing both in technology and policy. The calls that were reviewable didn't take long at all, and they did a good job of getting that done. Next year I hope it is different.
fenwaysouth posted:Matt13 posted:1. Assignments are decided well before the games.
2. This isn't like college football, where officials are generally in one conference. Most work at least three D1 conferences--if you were to say that a CWS official can't have worked in either team's conference, you eliminate a significant number of officials, particularly if the teams are geographically separated.
1) Assignments can be changed. The NCAA is one of the most powerful money-making, lawyer-driven monopolies on earth. They can do whatever they damn well please.
2) There is no negotiated labor agreement with an umpiring union as there is in MLB. See 1) above.
1) is not true, and 2) is irrelevant.
Can't believe I'm just now finding this site...
FWIW, GEAUX TIGERS!!!
Also, what up SHU and CACO? This is the place to be once your son hits high school for sure as our good ole travel site (NWBA) is dead after the 14U board
What's up, brball?
There is a wealth of information here so enjoy!
Singer versus Reynolds is a complete mismatch on paper....but games aren't played on paper.
With Harry Potter celebrating its 20th Anniversary of publication today it's only appropriate that Draco Malfoy is playing shortstop for Slytherin... I mean LSU.
BTW Singer is looking very legit tonight.
hshuler posted:What's up, brball?
There is a wealth of information here so enjoy!
Just trying to balance work with a 16U summer ball schedule (playing up this year)... really hard when he isn't driving yet!
And yes, the information here is overwhelming compared to our little travel site. So glad I found this one as son is a rising Junior
Singer was nasty tonight, what a pitcher! But the Tigers ran into too many outs on the basepaths. Congrats to Gators fans. Hoping the Tigers come out strong tomorrow night!
Here is an article from the game last night. I hope the gentleman is doing well. Dr Poche is the dad of Jared Poche who will be the game 2 starter tonight.
So if Florida wins - they will become the 5th school to have won a National Championship in Football, Basketball and Baseball. (not saying they will, just say'in)
The others are Cal, Stanford, UCLA (Pac12) and Michigan, Ohio State (Big 10)
Who has the best athletic conference(s) in the country?
Hoping for an LSU win tonight so I can listen/watch another scintillating performance by the broadcast crew and umpires....
In all seriousness there is nothing better than college baseball IMO.
younggun posted:Here is an article from the game last night. I hope the gentleman is doing well. Dr Poche is the dad of Jared Poche who will be the game 2 starter tonight.
Thank you for sharing that story.
You should be very proud of your sons efforts last night, regardless of the outcome. Not everyone gets to see their son pitch in Omaha!
TPM posted:younggun posted:Here is an article from the game last night. I hope the gentleman is doing well. Dr Poche is the dad of Jared Poche who will be the game 2 starter tonight.
Thank you for sharing that story.
You should be very proud of your sons efforts last night, regardless of the outcome. Not everyone gets to see their son pitch in Omaha!
+1
He did very well!
Thank you to both of you. Yes I am a very proud dad. We didn't get the W last night, but we get another chance tonight. It was a very well played game. I think I aged a couple of years through those 3.1 innings. But hey, this is what he signed up for. It was his longest outing of the year. He threw strikes. Made 2 mistakes leaving pitches over the plate and good hitters took advantage.
younggun posted:Thank you to both of you. Yes I am a very proud dad. We didn't get the W last night, but we get another chance tonight. It was a very well played game. I think I aged a couple of years through those 3.1 innings. But hey, this is what he signed up for. It was his longest outing of the year. He threw strikes. Made 2 mistakes leaving pitches over the plate and good hitters took advantage.
Being the parent of a pitcher is a tough job!!!!!
LSU is starting to feel a little momentum. Fans feeling it. We'll see.
TPM you are so right!!
Am I the only one that's been noticing that smkoin' hot brunette sitting front row behind the left hand batters box?
DesertDuck posted:Am I the only one that's been noticing that smkoin' hot brunette sitting front row behind the left hand batters box?
Change your screen name to Brent Musburger?
HUGE baserunning mistake sliding past the bag. The pivotal play of the series... takes the tying run off the board.
So many little things in baseball... any one can be such a difference maker.
Yep. He knew better, and he didn't even have to do it. Less than two outs.
"Never drive or fly your best available pitcher home with innings left in his arm.
Just my $.02."
pretty darn close to this situation Shu!
CHOMP, CHOMP!
Congratulations Sully and Gator nation!!
Congrats to the Gators. Take away the "best team to not win a CWS". Well deserved.
Guys let me just say this was an amazing experience. Words truly don't convey my feelings. It feels like a punch in the gut right now. We made some bone headed mistakes, but I don't want to take anything away from Florida. Trust me, as a lifelong fan and UGA grad, that almost tasted like $&&& to say. But it's the truth. They were the better team this time. We made mistakes but they capitalized on them and made their good fortune. I've yet to see my son. I'm sure he is upset, but we have 2-3 more years to try and make it back. Hopefully this will smolder in his and the rest of the young guys guts and make them work even harder starting in August. Thanks to all you guys who have wished me good luck and offered encouragement over the last couple of years.
Congrats to the Gators. I'll continue rooting for LSU next year, they made a great run at it
Awesome CWS. Congratulations to all gator fans.
Congrats! It's been a great distraction for us Giants fans.
Now we enter the dreaded down phase. No college baseball. Of course there is MLB to watch. But I just enjoy college sports much more than professional. Of course CFB is right around the corner and can't get here quick enough for me. Congrats to Sully and the Gators. He has had other teams imo that were more talented. But this team simply went out and got the job done.
Last night's Florida-LSU game was more interesting than the last week worth of Red Sox baseball. I didn't fall asleep to last night's game.
Great parents at LSU!
LSU parents save unconscious fan's life at College World Series - Fox News
https://apple.news/A9fhRcLWCQgaEKbtbXQA_Ww
RJM posted:Last night's Florida-LSU game was more interesting than the last week worth of Red Sox baseball. I didn't fall asleep to last night's game.
Best week of baseball at Omaha I have seen in years!