Yes, they seem to prefer lefties over righties. They like lefties throwing in the mid-to-upper 80's with movement and command --- 90's, even better! But they still like them to be 6'+.
This topic comes up often, and at the HS level I think it's hard for coaches to dismiss a slower but accurate pitcher than in college or the pros. The percentages are simply not with the lower speed. However, at the HS level, hitters are not as advanced as college or pro guys and a consistent low speed guy that gets results should be given a fair shot.
Last time I checked, the point of the game is to win. "We play to WIN the game!" (Hermann Edwards sp?) It's harder for a small, low speed guy to win at higher levels, but if he can... why not?
Last time I checked, the point of the game is to win. "We play to WIN the game!" (Hermann Edwards sp?) It's harder for a small, low speed guy to win at higher levels, but if he can... why not?
There are exceptions to every rule. That's what makes baseball a great game. A pitcher that has mastered his pitches, throws with good mechanics, hits his spots,keeps the ball down, can pitch and win on any level. These are the type of pitchers that need to be seen over an entire season, rather than one game or a showcase.
Dtiger -- Keep doing what you do best in playing the great game. The PRO's do make exceptions; Heck, look at Kenny Rodgers (other than attitude, I think he has a poor attitude..JMO)) He is not an overpowering fastball pitcher, never has been. He has made is living off of pitching. However, for some reason he could not pitch here.
Keep on Keeping on !!!
Keep on Keeping on !!!
dfwdad -- I'm not sure of you are blaming Rangers' management or KR's attitude for the divorce. He had a nice career here and I wish it had continued. As a matter of fact, I wish he was back here.
PD,
Mainly management. It use to be that, the Rangers would get good pitching and they couldn't do alot here. It appeared that they blossomed after leaving the Rangers. I guess this is sorta true for alot of Ranger players.
Mainly management. It use to be that, the Rangers would get good pitching and they couldn't do alot here. It appeared that they blossomed after leaving the Rangers. I guess this is sorta true for alot of Ranger players.
I find it very difficult to root for a person like Kenny Rodgers.
Kenny rogers had a 91 mph fastball when he came up to the big leagues in 1988.
I think John C. said it best when he said that some pitchers need to be seen over a season and not in a single outing. I once had a coach--after seeing me throw once--ask me if my stats were not real from my junior year in high school.
Dtiger,
Have you read the poem "It couldn't be done?" It's posted on my website if you want to CoachTraub.com. It's easier to scout velocity and height than "intangibles," but you (and others like you) will earn the opportunity somewhere, and if you keep winning, you'll keep pitching. You don't know how far you can go, and neither does anyone else, so you might as well assume it's very far for now. I have seen short, soft-throwers (pitching at 80-85) dominate at the top DI level. And I've seen guys in the bigs do it, too. Maddux now. Steve Avery when he came back from his injury. Bob Tewksbury. Plenty of others. Personally, I love it when they come inside, which they all did when they knew the guy was leaning. Ignore the naysayers, (unless they help motivate you). And good luck this season. (Of course, I believe luck is what happens when preparation meets opportunity.)
Have you read the poem "It couldn't be done?" It's posted on my website if you want to CoachTraub.com. It's easier to scout velocity and height than "intangibles," but you (and others like you) will earn the opportunity somewhere, and if you keep winning, you'll keep pitching. You don't know how far you can go, and neither does anyone else, so you might as well assume it's very far for now. I have seen short, soft-throwers (pitching at 80-85) dominate at the top DI level. And I've seen guys in the bigs do it, too. Maddux now. Steve Avery when he came back from his injury. Bob Tewksbury. Plenty of others. Personally, I love it when they come inside, which they all did when they knew the guy was leaning. Ignore the naysayers, (unless they help motivate you). And good luck this season. (Of course, I believe luck is what happens when preparation meets opportunity.)
quote:(Of course, I believe luck is what happens when preparation meets opportunity.)
Absolutely! 92% attitude, 8% ability
A wise man once told me that every kid had the same 8% ability (not all utilize the full 8%), but that it was the 92% attitude that would dictate their success.
Well, clearly that wasn't Tycho.
quote:Originally posted by Hawkman:
Well, clearly that wasn't Tycho.
You know me too well....
Having sat next to you for several games, I kind of figured you were more of a 92 percent ability and 8 percent attitude kind of guy.
quote:Originally posted by Hawkman:
Having sat next to you for several games, I kind of figured you were more of a 92 percent ability and 8 percent attitude kind of guy.
Since I have 2% ability and a terrible attitude, I never had much to work with...tychcoboys took after mama.
CoachTraub
Great Post! I also love to see pitchers come inside....Would like to see more of that in HS baseball. Would like your observation why we don't.....
Tychco...give up the sandbag....we all know you and your better half were awesome! I have seen her vault over some walls like a 13 year old.
Great Post! I also love to see pitchers come inside....Would like to see more of that in HS baseball. Would like your observation why we don't.....
Tychco...give up the sandbag....we all know you and your better half were awesome! I have seen her vault over some walls like a 13 year old.
Hey Paw,
Great seeing you and Mr. Paw last night. Goldberg looked great. Best of luck to you the rest of the season.
Great seeing you and Mr. Paw last night. Goldberg looked great. Best of luck to you the rest of the season.
quote:Originally posted by dfwdad08:
Throwing in the 90's and "pitching" are different. I would take a crafty kid pitching in the 70's to 80's
before I would go for a kid throwing in the 90's. Speed means nothing if he cannot place it. JMO..
I am not knocking the kids; I hope they do well.
I'll take 90s, you can have 70s. Ha Ha!
An outstanding pitching performance by Colleyville's Aaron Gilbreath (aka Goldberg) on his win against Arlington Heights and standout pitcher Walker Kelly. Gilbreath, a junior lefty, threw 6 innings giving up 1 run. Way to go Goldberg!
would you save teddy nowell if forney dont pitch vance woodruff so forney can sneak a third place finish
Vance Woodruff is not the second coming of Nolan Ryan...... Forney probably should pitch him against Poteet or Heath since they have no chance against HP.
I would hope that after this past weeks McKinney tournament we will start to see more praise for both Andrew Blum and Robert Huber, both 2010's at Plano West who went 1-2 on the bump for the championship! And I'm an East guy!!!! But these two are Marshals and "WE ARE MARSHAL" (without the other L)...your welcome catcher!
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