Good luck.
Which D2 program is it if you don't mind me asking?
I don't want to name the school until I have made my choice and tell the coach, but it is a nationally ranked school in florida that is known to be a great baseball school.
quote:Originally posted by Brn2Hit:
Thanks for the feedback. I am pretty sure that I will end up going the D2 route where the coach told me stuff like being an impact player. Thank you for your opinions. My goal is to get drafted, so I need to play.
Don't confuse playing time with getting drafted. There are hundreds of college players that come to the plate everyday in college, they don't get drafted.
You will get scout exposure being in Florida, no doubt, but have you done your homework about players being drafted from that program?
I have to agree with TR on one point he made, if you have pro potential at this time(second year JUCO), why aren't scouts talking to you now?
If you really want to play pro ball, you need to consider which coach at which school develops players to move to the pro level. If you have pro potential you will make your way to the lineup wherever you go. This is a tough one, no one can tell you what to do, follow your own gut feeling.
Good luck.
Did I say that pro scouts were not talking to me? There are at least 5 teams looking at me now that I have filled out paperwork on. I hope to be drafted this year, what round, I don't know...maybe not at all, which is why I need to be ready to play at a school if it does not go my way.
A bunch of players have been drafted that attended this program.
The goal I have is real, I want to make every decision the best I can.
A bunch of players have been drafted that attended this program.
The goal I have is real, I want to make every decision the best I can.
The coach with 100% invested in you believes in you. He will give you every chance to prove you deserve that 100%. In his mind you are very important to his program and will be an impact player for him. If not he would not be offering you what he is.
Go to the D2 program and take care of business. And good luck I hope you tear it up and get a chance to play at the next level. When I sit down to watch a professional game I could careless what college they came from. And no one else does either. Good luck
Go to the D2 program and take care of business. And good luck I hope you tear it up and get a chance to play at the next level. When I sit down to watch a professional game I could careless what college they came from. And no one else does either. Good luck
You've played 2 years of college ball.
You want to move on to pro ball.
If you can win a starting position as a junior at the D1 you will be in better shape for the draft.
If you don't start until you are a senior you will be in worse shape for the draft than if you were to be drafted as a junior from the D2 unless you put up big time numbers at the D1.
If you go to the D2 and play you'll be in decent shape for the draft after your junior season assuming you perform well.
Only you, and perhaps your coaches, know how good you are, what risks you are willing to take and what your chances of doing well at the D1 school are.
You want to move on to pro ball.
If you can win a starting position as a junior at the D1 you will be in better shape for the draft.
If you don't start until you are a senior you will be in worse shape for the draft than if you were to be drafted as a junior from the D2 unless you put up big time numbers at the D1.
If you go to the D2 and play you'll be in decent shape for the draft after your junior season assuming you perform well.
Only you, and perhaps your coaches, know how good you are, what risks you are willing to take and what your chances of doing well at the D1 school are.
brn2hit,
You seem very serious - and that is great. And you are getting some great perspective here.
If I may - let me give you a little more real life stuff to think abut as you make your decision.
1) If you dont play - the only people that may be talking about how great you are and how high your ceiling is will be Baseball America - and other assorted media rags. That hype may help you - but it probably wont win the day.
2) Assuming you get to the next level - noone there really cares what school you came from. You can either perform well - or not. If you play well - you will live another day - and if you dont - you will be sent home.
In fact - the majority of the players at the next level did not play college ball at all.
3) Playing with a wood bat is the real deal. Playing with aluminum rocket launchers is akin to weekend beer softball games. You will realize that very quickly. The difference is very significant.
Make sure you go somewhere where you can show your stuff.
Best of luck to you.
You seem very serious - and that is great. And you are getting some great perspective here.
If I may - let me give you a little more real life stuff to think abut as you make your decision.
1) If you dont play - the only people that may be talking about how great you are and how high your ceiling is will be Baseball America - and other assorted media rags. That hype may help you - but it probably wont win the day.
2) Assuming you get to the next level - noone there really cares what school you came from. You can either perform well - or not. If you play well - you will live another day - and if you dont - you will be sent home.
In fact - the majority of the players at the next level did not play college ball at all.
3) Playing with a wood bat is the real deal. Playing with aluminum rocket launchers is akin to weekend beer softball games. You will realize that very quickly. The difference is very significant.
Make sure you go somewhere where you can show your stuff.
Best of luck to you.
quote:
Originally posted by itsinthegame:
In fact - the majority of the players at the next level did not play college ball at all.
You stumped me on this one IITG....lol.
YGD,
I should clarify a bit:
The % that attended 4-yr colleges (all Divisions) is about 40% - up quite a bit over the years.
The % that actually graduated from any college is less than 6%
I should clarify a bit:
The % that attended 4-yr colleges (all Divisions) is about 40% - up quite a bit over the years.
The % that actually graduated from any college is less than 6%
On the most current Cardinals roster more played in college (2 and 4 year) than didn't.
I agree most probably don't have degrees, either 2 year or 4 year, but the fact is that they were seen and drafted while in a college setting.
I agree most probably don't have degrees, either 2 year or 4 year, but the fact is that they were seen and drafted while in a college setting.
TPM,
The Wall Street Journal did a great article on this subject last spring.
I dont know about the Cardinals - but the fact is that less than 50% of MLB players have ever attended a 4 year college.
As for graduating college - forget it. There were about 40 college graduates that played in the MLB last year - out of about 750 players. And the 40 includes managers and coaches.
The % attending college have risen since the 1940's - at one point - in the 1950's - the % was as low as approx. 25%
An interesting fact - the Carolina Panthers had more college graduates on their football team than all of the MLB baseball teams combined.
The Wall Street Journal did a great article on this subject last spring.
I dont know about the Cardinals - but the fact is that less than 50% of MLB players have ever attended a 4 year college.
As for graduating college - forget it. There were about 40 college graduates that played in the MLB last year - out of about 750 players. And the 40 includes managers and coaches.
The % attending college have risen since the 1940's - at one point - in the 1950's - the % was as low as approx. 25%
An interesting fact - the Carolina Panthers had more college graduates on their football team than all of the MLB baseball teams combined.
An interesting statistic that I'd like to know is how many actually took MLB up had they been offered if it didn't work out during negotiations on the MLB Scholarship? And went on to get their degree?
YGD,
Excuse me if I didnt get your question right - but the number of players that signed a professional contract and went on to start or finish college after their playing days were over is very very small.
Excuse me if I didnt get your question right - but the number of players that signed a professional contract and went on to start or finish college after their playing days were over is very very small.
quote:Originally posted by itsinthegame:
In fact - the majority of the players at the next level did not play college ball at all.
Hey, I never said anything about graduation rates, or where they went to college (2 year vs 4 year), I was just wondering where this statistic came from.
So all I did was give an example that many players have played college ball, and that is where they were last seen when drafted.
TPM,
The Wall Street Journal has a great section called "The Count". They do all sorts of analyses on all aspects of professional sports.
Some of it can be accessed for free on the web. I read it from time to time as it is a great source of statistical analyses.
Recently I read an article on the "demographic" history of MLB players. It was really interesting. They went all the way back to the 1940's.
Alot of interesting stuff.
The Wall Street Journal has a great section called "The Count". They do all sorts of analyses on all aspects of professional sports.
Some of it can be accessed for free on the web. I read it from time to time as it is a great source of statistical analyses.
Recently I read an article on the "demographic" history of MLB players. It was really interesting. They went all the way back to the 1940's.
Alot of interesting stuff.
Here's a link to another article that talks about the subject.
http://online.wsj.com/article/...451120214896621.html
http://online.wsj.com/article/...451120214896621.html
Coach May
You have a PM
You have a PM
I am not disagreeing with you about the fact that many pro players did not graduate. There are many playing in the pro levels (not necessarily MLB) that have attended college, at one time or another, whether it be 1 year or 5. I am not surprised that more players on a football team have graduated than in MLB, but that is how their system works and the NFL strongly supports and assists their players in getting their degrees, MLB does not and couldn't care less. Something to think about when considering the pro option.
YGD, the MLB scholarship is offered to every player that is drafted, not all players (in fact many) take advantage after they leave. There are many players that turn down the draft to enter college or finish, most has to do with the amount of money they receive.
In fact, I did indicate to the OP in one of my posts that going to college and where he will earn his degree should take preference over where he will get the most draft exposure.
YGD, the MLB scholarship is offered to every player that is drafted, not all players (in fact many) take advantage after they leave. There are many players that turn down the draft to enter college or finish, most has to do with the amount of money they receive.
In fact, I did indicate to the OP in one of my posts that going to college and where he will earn his degree should take preference over where he will get the most draft exposure.
Say Rook,
The path to where they want you is best travelled.
Take the bucks and follow your dreams.
And while you are there, obtain an education and degree.
Good Luck
The path to where they want you is best travelled.
Take the bucks and follow your dreams.
And while you are there, obtain an education and degree.
Good Luck