gally17....
Have known Mick for a number of years, great kid, great family. Son played little league with Mick. Above average ball player, BUT before you put him in the 'hall of fame', let him accomplish something first. You can be 'projectible' as a player, or as a school, but until you have a track record of success, it doesn't mean anything.
Playing at the next level, and I mean playing, not just making the team and sitting on the bench, is really difficult to do. Don't make these kids into "icons" before they even start their seasons. There are so many "high school studs" who have sat on the bench, or stopped playing baseball completely. I don't care who is ranked where, player or school, who had the most homeruns, or banners!!!!! When you can be a starter, DI, and DII and DIII, then you have begun to accomplish something. The next level in baseball is very difficult to survive in.
one heard of him? If anyone knows who he is watch him closely this year!
kyle morgan for Glenbard West very under rated.
glenbard west i assume? how are you guys doing so far this year?
Look's to me that Mick Doyle is the best hitter on the Benet team. His bat look's as good as his glove.
Sweaty: Was at the Naz-Benet game, Cantwell is a very good short-stop,you were right!Would not say best defensive short-stop because Doyle is not to shabby,neither is Johanns of NC. or Weido DGS, or Cunningham OPRF,Garcia Clemente, Capetta Montini .
soto from dundee crown is also a great shorstop
Let me tell you something, Gio is a great SS. We had Johans on are team at one point and you see he is no longer with us. I'm not saying Lou is bad, i'm saying (imo) Gio is better. And Mick Doyle is a good player but again IMO has a ways to go to catch Gio in ability. He is silk on the field. And a disciplined hitter at the dish. He is not (imo) a pitcher. He needs Ian to help him quickly. Ian is a pitcher and a **** good one. No breaking balls for a while but, with the movement he has on his other pitches he doesn't need to throw it anyway. So, debate it as you will and have a favorite or two it's okay with me. I just like Gio's knowledge and work habits on the field. I wish he went to LT, we would be that much better. We are lacking a consistent SS on our squad.
Having watched Cantwell play for the Berwyn Bulldogs, White Sox Academy and Nazareth Academy my vote would probably go to Gio. I'm don't think he would be the top rated ss offensively but there is no one better defensively imo.
quote:Let me tell you something, Gio is a great SS. We had Johans on are team at one point and you see he is no longer with us.
First let me say Gio is one heck of a player. However, Lou (Johanns) left the White Sox by his (and his family's)own choice, not because of any on the field issues. It had more to do with the way finances are run there.
Pete Cappetta from Montini is the best shortstop..He hit .424.. 4 homeruns, 21RBI's, and 7 Stolen Bases. He was also 8-1 on the mound with an era of 2.27
I know Pete,Lou,Mick all from gravel days. I'm using my opinion in baseball in the northern part of Illinois and in my opinion those are all good SS. However, If you look at consistentcy at the position game in and game out Gio Cantwell is better. He very rarely makes a mistake. I'm not saying he is a power hitter either, I'm saying he is a good hitter at the plate. Very smart baseball knowledge. This posting is not about the absolute, it is about YOUR own opinion. And that is my OWN opinion. Like I said before the debate will go on and on and on...
I went to the Benet,Naz game. I heard about Powers and the 2 shortstos from both school's. I think Sweaty is one of the best poster's on here and his son is all-state material and he is right Cantwell is very good,but I have to give the edge to Doyle of Benet. Made a major league play going toward third,back hand and throw in one motion.And then batting in the four spot hit a line shot to left for 2 rbi's.Heard he had 2 rbi's in the first game .Seen Capetta play ,has a lot of power,and make's all the play's.
On any given day....that was a great play. I give Mick the edge in that game but still IMO not overall year after year. He is a good player as is Pete Capetta and Lou johans and i'm sure I'm missing some good ones...i don't go to all of the games but the ones i have been at all the SS's have been very good...Mick has alot of promise in the very near future and will make some college coach very happy. I'm sure Coach Cal is going to be very excited to have Lou on his squad too. I think Gio will fit right in at UIC. He may not hit.400 but he'll make the plays more than not...I think he is as smooth as silk at his position...They are all good players and will do fine. If you ain't hitting a ton you better be playing stellar defense..and then they will find you a spot, we all know that. Most hs teams can attest to that!!! If you get my drift fellas
i'd tap that; sound's to me you never played the game, bush league to single out him, there isn't one player ever who hasn't had bad game's shame on you for your bush league statement!!!!!
i'd tap that....post deleted.
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old,
I deleted the post.
Dear Everyone....No need to single out a specific player who has a bad game.
If you've truly played the game long enough, EVERYONE, even PROFESSIONAL players, have bad games every now and then.
High school players, from time to time, can be spectacular or average or below average. So what? They are high school kids.
Just try to bounce back from bad games.
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old,
I deleted the post.
Dear Everyone....No need to single out a specific player who has a bad game.
If you've truly played the game long enough, EVERYONE, even PROFESSIONAL players, have bad games every now and then.
High school players, from time to time, can be spectacular or average or below average. So what? They are high school kids.
Just try to bounce back from bad games.
old udc parent:
Single who out? Did I miss a comment? Did something vanish?
Now I see Beenthere's comments...I thought you were refering to Sweaty's comments...nevermind!
Single who out? Did I miss a comment? Did something vanish?
Now I see Beenthere's comments...I thought you were refering to Sweaty's comments...nevermind!
i played against johanns in the schaumburg flyers classic.....seems to me that hes a spark plug for the nc team and one of the reasons why there so good.....hes an amazing ball player and he will do some good things in college....i also saw mick doyle play at the classic and he too was a very good player who works hard and plays a great game......now that i think about it....garcia from clemente was in that tourney too...it was a showcase for shortstops lol
I heard Dain Hall from Barrington is moving to Cf and they brought up a very good soph. short-stop, this kid must be good,cause I hear Hall is as good as Garcia and Doyle and Johanns,Cantwell. Who is this kid?
I don't know if this was a one-game situation or not. There have been some injuries and other personel things going on with the team so it's hard to tell what is happening. The kid who came up from the soph. team and played short on Saturday was Tim Conroy who is a very nice player and is known to some people on this site already I'm sure. Hall is the kind of athlete who could play anywhere...he isn't just quick like a lot of SS, he is flat out fast.
Just wanted to say congradulations to conroy. i've worked with him a lot with Steve Hayward and have known he's good. It's good to here that he is getting a chance to show his skill at the varsity level. Best of luck Tim, hope you and your dad can make it to a game sometime good luck the rest of the year.
Conroy started again yesterday, so maybe he is here to stay.
One of the best in the state is Brother Rice's Jimmy Calderone. He may be only 5'7 or 5'8, but he could toss some leather and hit the cover off the ball. He is going to Scottsdale JUCO.
Saw Conroy play against Rolling Meadows, had a couple of nice hits,and looked good in the field,strong arm. Does he pitch?
Conroy has pitched, but I don't know about him pitching while playing short on the Varsity. Not something that happens often at Barrington High School (or a lot of other schools as well.)
We will do just fine with him there 100% of the time.
We will do just fine with him there 100% of the time.
BUSHORTSTOP8.
Where do you go to school at?
Where do you go to school at?
i attend Bradley University in Peoria, IL
Hey Brew, did you see the redbirds beat WSU 2 of 3 with Sorce getting the save friday night and the win on sunday? We went to Sunday's game , it was a great college baseball game to watch. And the guys are excited about Danny coming next year. It is good to know they want him there. I see you are doing great, I knew you would come around. Keep it up dude. I can't wait to see you next year in conference. It will be fun. I know you'll kick our butts but it will still be fun. I want to see both Danny's strike you out.....that will get your juices flowing......huh? love ya and good luck the rest of the way...see ya this summer..sweaty
haha yeah yeah sweaty, just cause sorce got me this year doesnt mean he'll get me again. to be honest i dont think u want danny pitching against me right now anyway, i've been killing left hand pitching this year. but yeah college ball is a lot different. a lot faster, danny will adjust fine if he keeps working though. i hear LT is having a great season again. good to hear, i hope to be back to see a couple games. im sure ill see u this summer sometiime take care sweaty.
I can't believe no one has mentioned Maine West's Tyler Ladendorf. He is the smoothest shortstop I have played against and he can definitely swing the stick, he hit 390 as a sophomore on varsity.
I think Tyler may have been overlooked because he was hurt last year if I remember correctly, but you are right he can really play and should be mentioned. Did he sign with anyone yet?
Good luck to Dan Brewer, great start to a stellar career, I hope. Finish strong and say hello to Brian Porter for me.
I'm looking forward to seeing you play for the Dragon's.
I'm looking forward to seeing you play for the Dragon's.
Ya he was hurt last year. I'm not sure about this, but i think he's playing community college. Also, when we played them, there was a White Sox scout at the game
A player on there team said he is going to a Juco in Texas. When he played us, he had 3 errors and did not hit to well so dunno if that means much but.
"JMK721" - Nope, errors don't mean much at all. They suck to have, but no player is perfect every game. My boss at a job out of school said "It's only human to make mistakes". That quote has stuck with me ever since.
"Tmeyers24" - Yes, he has real swift moves and can swing - no doubt about that. It has been said that he plays like a warm-weather region player. And Yes, a scout or 2 were at the game.
A comment regarding errors: A scout does not judge a player on errors, they analyze how you shake it off (compose yourself) and come back for the next play. Some kids who make several errors in a game might have their mind somewhere else with school, family, tragedy; you never know. Remember, these players are teenagers trying to become young adults; they aren't perfect.
If anyone knows Tyler, he was a 2004 stand-out as a sophomore, but slipped through the cracks as a Junior for the entire season due to surgery. He is back at full strength and 'Tmeyers24', you are correct, he does deserve to be listed for 2006 - good catch. Tyler did indeed accept a scholarship and signed with a D1 JUCO in Texas.
Good luck in regionals everyone !
"Tmeyers24" - Yes, he has real swift moves and can swing - no doubt about that. It has been said that he plays like a warm-weather region player. And Yes, a scout or 2 were at the game.
A comment regarding errors: A scout does not judge a player on errors, they analyze how you shake it off (compose yourself) and come back for the next play. Some kids who make several errors in a game might have their mind somewhere else with school, family, tragedy; you never know. Remember, these players are teenagers trying to become young adults; they aren't perfect.
If anyone knows Tyler, he was a 2004 stand-out as a sophomore, but slipped through the cracks as a Junior for the entire season due to surgery. He is back at full strength and 'Tmeyers24', you are correct, he does deserve to be listed for 2006 - good catch. Tyler did indeed accept a scholarship and signed with a D1 JUCO in Texas.
Good luck in regionals everyone !
I've grown up with Tyler and have played with him for many years. He is a great player and will certainly be a draft out of high school.
tyler is steadly improving from his tough shoulder injury last year..... his watch time has improved and his bat speed is right up there, a good one for anyone who lands him in the next month.......
My son wanted to vote for his favorite player when we saw Team Illinois play Sat.at Barrington. It was Mick Doyle.
LLdad,
Your son has a good eye for talent LLdad, and Mick has the ability to lead by example.
He is a very smart player who is good as a teammate.
He will be very successful at whatever path he chooses. A winner! imo..
Your son has a good eye for talent LLdad, and Mick has the ability to lead by example.
He is a very smart player who is good as a teammate.
He will be very successful at whatever path he chooses. A winner! imo..
My vote would have to be for Rob Elliott from Neuqua Valley. I thought that he was as good as Mick Doyle
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