Top Summer Programs in North Texas

Program- as a whole... over time... otherwise I would have def. included DBAT17 and Dallas Tigers17 (for this year)...

Dallas Tigers -#1 the rest 2-8.

No team compares to this years Tigers teams....nobody! And our coaching staff is #1. WOW, did I say something nice about a coach!!!!!

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Dallas Tigers -#1 the rest 2-8.

No team compares to this years Tigers teams....nobody! And our coaching staff is #1. WOW, did I say something nice about a coach!!!!!

And here I was starting to like you Train....


Good thing we have a DBAT 17 team this year to carry us through the summer. You know, with all the players we won't have on DBAT 18....

It aint so tough to say nice stuff about a coach when you got the best.

OKOKOK in all seriosness, with my very biased opinion, I would say

Tigers
Mustangs
DBAT
Marshalls

These answers are purely based on my personal experiences and reputation. The Tigers have a great reputation. The Mustangs do too, but it seems like their teams arent truly competitive until they are 15ish... when they become really good. DBAT hasn't been around as long, (as far as I know, I could definately be wrong) but the time they've been around, they've been really good. Marhsals have always been solid. I could make a case for the Panthers, Blackhawks, and Black Sox all to be in the 4 spot. I think the 4 teams I named are some of the more well known teams... which probably makes my answer not too accurate.

Who knows who has the best team yet. Guess that's why they play the games.

But Tigers 17 will be tough, as will DBAT 17's.

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Originally posted by Dtiger:
The Mustangs do too, but it seems like their teams arent truly competitive until they are 15ish... when they become really good.

I don't think the Mustangs have teams before 15U ....

IMO all the organizations listed in the original post are good clubs and in most cases are too close to adequately compare.

I do think the Tigers have the best overall program and I submit that the 2005 Tigers were the best youth baseball team (through the years) out of the DFW area, maybe among the best in the nation. Look at this team's graduates as freshmen in college: Roger Kieschnick was Big 12 Player of the Week last week, hitting .369 for Tech. There are also key 2005 Tigers contributing at schools like Notre Dame (Jeremy Barnes starting at SS and leading team in RBI's), Arizona State (Preston starts at catchter hitting .305), TCU (Hunt Woodruff catching & Derek Verhagen), **** Roberts (Kelly Minnesale Freshman All-America hitting .335 & Anthony Walsh), Central Arkansas, New Mexico, Xavier and Abilene Christian (Trey Watten hit .290 as a starter this year.) I'm know I'm missing a few players, but this group has won two AABC world championships and several others including CABA, USSSA and Triple Crown. There were at least four of the above in the Texas All-Star game last year, at least four All-Staters and at least three DMN All-Area. Almost the whole team were H.S. All-District players for 2 to 4 years.

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DBAT hasn't been around as long, (as far as I know, I could definately be wrong) but the time they've been around, they've been really good.

This my eleventh year of 18U summer baseball since starting the Dallas Knights in 1996 and merging with Cade and DBAT before last summer. Of the teams mentioned at the top of this thread, the only ones that were around when I started were Sam Carpenter's Mustangs, Don Patty's Blacksox and Dave Acton's As.

The FW Cats played back in the day, went away and then were resurrected by Bruce Kirby in 1998. Tommy Hernandez' Tigers started playing at the 18U level in 1999. Panthers and Blackhawks came around in 1998 or 1999. Patriots started in summer of 2003 and Marshals in summer of 2004.

My how the time flies when you're having fun....

A Cowboy - Is Trey Watten related to the Watten that plays for Copppell/Tigers?

Also, is Roger Kieschnick related to Brooks Kieschnick from the early 90's at Texas?

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I do think the Tigers have the best overall program and I submit that the 2005 Tigers were the best youth baseball team (through the years) out of the DFW area, maybe among the best in the nation.

Hands down, the Dallas Mustangs Connie Mack teams of the early-to-mid 90's were the best of the best. There have been no teams of any such comparison since. There were far fewer teams back then and locally they had their pick of the litter. They were dominant and many of those guys went on to have very nice pro careers.

I don't know how good they are, but several guys from my high school team, will be playing on the mckinney marshalls, and my head coach will be helping coach them.

Kind of off topic, but what league do most of these premier teams play in, is it lone star, BBI, tournaments only, or travel, etc. I would like to know so I can go watch some games, just don't know where they are played at.

I don't know how good they are (the marshalls), but several guys from my high school team, will be playing on the mckinney marshalls, and my head coach will be helping coach them.

Kind of off topic, but what league do most of these premier teams play in, is it lone star, BBI, tournaments only, or travel, etc. I would like to know so I can go watch some games, just don't know where they are played at.

OK so I've got to ask, how would the 17U Tiger team from this year do against the previous bests?
Tant Shep.
Beaven
Green
Kaskow
Watten
Fitzgerald
Bankston
Swagerty
Pritchet
Johnson
and the list goes on.

I think they might not have the most hands down talent ever, but that team competes and plays as much as a team I've ever seen. Playing as a team goes far under the radar these days.

CS -- Trey is Cameron's older brother -- and the son of a well-known poster here.

Trey has no offensive stats on the ACU website -- I assume he was red-shirted. ACowboy, is the site wrong?

Ooops, CS -- I should have assumed that you were up-to-speed!

Several of the kids listed were late-season add-ons -- Shepherd and Swaggerty played for the Patriots. The MMWS team was indeed a special group.

PD - I was trying to be "politically correct" in the way I asked that question....I didn't want to get censored by any moderators.

DBAT GM I still think you have the BEST posts!!

You think if we put together an All Star team from Dallas including all the teams mentioned here we could beat the Woodlands? Darn right we could.....Go Newman Smith! Knock those bad boys tonight!

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You think if we put together an All Star team from Dallas including all the teams mentioned here we could beat the Woodlands?

Yep. Woodlands wouldn't have a chance.

We could call the team DBAT 18!

ahhhh, now that was funny GM....