Top Summer Programs in North Texas

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Originally posted by Panther Dad:
CS -- Trey is Cameron's older brother -- and the son of a well-known poster here.

Trey has no offensive stats on the ACU website -- I assume he was red-shirted. ACowboy, is the site wrong?

Ooops, CS -- I should have assumed that you were up-to-speed!

No, I'm certain Trey played a bunch. I just check the ACU web site and here is what I found out at
http://www.acu.edu/sports/baseball/2006_Schedule/cumes.html
Player AVG GP-GS AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI
Trey Watten......... .290 59-58 214 48 62 13 2 2 37

Thanks ACowboy --- I just missed his name in the list --- let me know when you find that sped reding class.

I agree with DBAT that there are few with longevity of over a decade in the Connie Mack division. Dbat is correct on his dates with all of those teams entering the Connie Mack age groups with the exception of the Panthers - they began in 2001. Omar W. was coaching in the Dallas Titans organization until then.
Dallas Titans organized in 1995.

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Dbat is correct on his dates with all of those teams entering the Connie Mack age groups with the exception of the Panthers - they began in 2001.

I stand corrected. Thanks, Matt.

I think I would tap the brakes just a bit on who's going to be the best. Now the best competitors, a totally other story.

As usual, Time will tell.

The Dallas Mustangs will have a strong team. Sam Carpenter is a great guy and knows a lot about the game.

The talent level of the players in this area is really remarkable. These teams are a list of all-district players. I guess you could say the Tigers, due to arms, but unless you have a rooting interest it seems it would be difficult to say "Hey, we're the best".

I totally agree sgd. The talent level around here is as equal as it gets. It will probably go to least injuries, pitching depth and team chemistry.

Get all that in the right catagory and you have a receipe for best team.

I agree fully to that post. I was curious, when you sum up the success of a summer program, do you mainly put weight on their 15/16-18 year old success? Or do you also look at the younger age groups? I'm not sure if DBAT has younger groups. The Tigers do and it helps remarkably. Each team is groomed (in their special way) to play as each coach wants. This is normally because a single coach will stay with a team from the time they are 12 all the way up. Best example of this I can think of are the 17s. I'm not sure about the Marshals-I think they have younger teams . The Dallas Mustangs young teams were never competitive.

dtiger - DBAT starts at 16U and as far as I know the Mustangs do not have any teams before 15U. They may have experimented with younger teams in the past but I don't think they have had them the past few years. The Marshals...I am not sure what they are currently doing but their first year there were so many teams in our age group that they used up all the colors and directions naming them all. (gold, white, black, north, south, did I miss any?) I never could figure out which one we were playing. (well, ok, I knew when we were playing MM South because we would get our rears kicked!)

I agree with you...it is nice that the Dallas Tigers put teams together at 12 and keep the core group together through high school. I have seen other groups try that approach and I haven't seen it executed as successfully, it seems like the teams tend to break-up or lose key players before they make it to 15U. Hats off to the Tigers for making it work. Now, if the coach would just stay through high school...wait, that's another thread.

Good job on program-info DBAT GM... the Cats were started in 1989 by Jay Meadows.. coached them through fall of 1995.. (I was Asst. Coach 93-95).. I picked back up in '98 and have been going ever since...

Back in the day, I remember lots of tourneys where it was just Mustangs, Cats, Slam, Kyle Chapman, Black Sox.. we'd just beat the crud out of each other and go home...

and you were correct when saying teams of early 90's were top of the line... SC's team that won the CMWS were as legit as you get - how many future Olympians/big leaguers can you fit on a roster??

I know Cats had a team in early 90's that had ten kids drafted off of it - and SC's Mustangs still could put it on us...

sooo many teams now... and sooo much parity. But I believe it is good for the game - for the most part...

Welcome to the bored, er, board, BK. Took ya long enough.....

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Back in the day, I remember lots of tourneys where it was just Mustangs, Cats, Slam, Kyle Chapman, Black Sox.. we'd just beat the crud out of each other and go home...

Ah, the good ole' days.



Ah, the good ole' days.

Taking a page from the DBAT GM school of promotion....An exerpt from some of our propaganda...

Do the McKinney Marshals have the best youth program in the metroplex for ages 7-18? No one knows for sure, but the overall success of the third year program from Collin County places it in DFW’s elite class of youth baseball programs. Beside an overall 850-327 (.724) record, the Marshals Youth Program accomplished the following in its first two years:

3 - National Championships
1 - NIT National Championship
6 - Top 3 Nat. Champ Finishes
6 - Top 10 finishes at Nat.Championships
4- State Championships
23- Tournament Championships
18- Tournament Second Place Finishes
73- Tournament Top 3 finishes
16- League Championships

One of our goals with the Marshals is to develop youth players through our organization, similar to a farm system seen in Major League Baseball. An example of player development would be 2004-5 Cincinnati Reds draft pick Jake Arietta, who played for our 18U team and who played for The McKinney Marshals Texas Collegiate League team in the summer of 2005 and will try out for Team USA this summer.
Our other goal is to mirror some of the finest youth programs in the country such as East Cobb (GA.), Memphis Tigers (TN.), Midland Redskins (OH), Orange County (CA) and the Kansas City Sluggers (KS).

The Marshals believe in the “lost art” of fundamental baseball that includes bunting, hitting the cut-off man, getting proper leads to steal bases, and practicing sportsmanship on and off the field.

I think the Tigers are top notch up and down the ladder and have been for 10 plus years, then I nominate us a close second in just our third year of existence..

Good luck to all this summer...

If you get a chance this summer, stop by a TCL game (www.texascollegiateleague.com) one night and see what college summer league is all about. I think your HS kids will get a feel for what it takes to play D1 ball as most of the kids in the league are from D1 programs across the country...

Kudos, Shane. The Marshals have done very well the past two summers....especially at the younger levels.

Wish you guys had played in the BBI Premier Divisions this summer. Maybe next year?

What the difference between a National Championship and an NIT National Championship? In either case, both sound great!

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The Marshals believe in the “lost art” of fundamental baseball that includes bunting, hitting the cut-off man, getting proper leads to steal bases, and practicing sportsmanship on and off the field.

Catch You make it sound as though this is a novel approach....I have known many many teams and organizations that have studied AND MASTERED the "lost art"....Good for you if you feel your organization is doing such, but there are others...

Watching the McKinney Marshals battle Carpenter's Mustangs to a 1-1 tie today has me very optimistic for this summer.

Andy Postema's team is truley a bunch of dirt bags that will go out and compete.

Heard it was a good one....if my sources speak truth. But what 1-1 ballgame wouldn't?

Who threw for both squads

Anything really "eye-opening"??

It was a well played game on both sides.

Excellent defense and clutch pitching to prevent additional runs from scoring. Both teams had their opportunities but couldn't push any additional runs across.

Speaking for the Mustangs, Clinard (Rockwall), Concannon (St. Marks/Georgetown), Keniston (Dallas Christian/Navarro) and Pair (TCA) all threw real well.

Richards (Plano East/Arkansas) and Choate (Lewisville)were the only ones I recognized from the Marshalls. They both looked sharp. Choate came on in relief in the 7th and pitched out of a bases loaded jam with one out. He looked real good. Sorry I don't know their other pitchers but they were very effective.

Medlin (Keller/TCU) had a couple of hits and the lone RBI. The Marshalls scored on a wild pitch in the 4th inning I believe. Miller (Keller) had a couple of hits for the Marshalls. Kreder (Keller/TCU) had an ESPN type catch off a foul ball for the Mustangs.

As you'd expect, both teams were not at full strength with players still involved in the playoffs or just coming off tough playoff losses.

Should be a fun, competitive summer. The baseball talent in this area is pretty amazing.