Very Interesting article

Oi.

Would like to hear a coach's perspective on this. I have always advocated a cease-fire on benching and overhead weights for pitchers in season, but that is hardly a reason to skip your senior year of high school. I think there is more to this than the article is telling us.

This is a name I am not familiar with. Is this a kid with 4 year D1 potential?

yes -hard to make a comment without the AD and coach speaking up to make sure there is not other issues.

Also, wonder how the kid himself feels since there didnt seem to be any quotes from him.

Hope it all works out well for all.

the link is not working for me....

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Originally posted by cheapseats:
the link is not working for me....

Me either but then I'm kinda computer challenged anyway...

It was an article on Smoaky.com that they had on their forum. I guess they took it down last night, cause there were ton of opinions on it and i guess it got personal. I will try and find the link to the original article and post it.

The week before I had to report back to campus for teacher inservice, I drove down to Texas A&M University and met with one of the strength coaches there to discuss this very subject.

I came away with some great ideas and disspelled some myths that I had heard. I too am frustrated by "football workouts" because lifting for baseball is much, much different.

At Marcus this year and from now on, we will concentrate on our lower body and core strength. Will we lift with our upper body, sure. We will not do ANY over head lifting. We will not do ANY incline lifting. We will bench press, but only with dumbbell weights. We will alternate lifting heavy and lifting light during the offseason. In season, if you can't rep it 30 times, you are lifting too much.

Our offseason strength and conditioning program will be very baseball specific. Does it require more work of me...yep. But it is what my baseball guys need to make them better and to reduce injuries, which is what it is all about. We want to be quick, explosive, and flexible...with flexible being the key.

I could rant on even more, but the bell just rang and I have to get to my class.

Here is the link to the article:

http://www.themineolamonitor.c...neolamonitor&he=.com

Regardless of what one thinks of heavy weight lifting for pitchers, I'm surprised the parents and athletic dept could not reach an agreement on the lifting program. Seems if a parent says, "I don't want my son doing that" then the kid should not be doing it.

good luck Nic.

.rockdad

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In season, if you can't rep it 30 times, you are lifting too much.

If you rep it 30 times, you are working a whole complete different energy system! One that is not needed to be trained for baseball!

I appreciate your opinion bulldog, but when the Orthopedic surgeon for a Major League Baseball Team and every strength coach in the Big 12 tell me the same thing, then I think we'll be OK. Not to mention my orthopedic surgeon that worked under Dr. James Andrews in Birmingham, Alabama who has recommended the same thing for me since I am still a "thrower." I understand what you are saying, but in season we are not trying to build strength, just maintain.

Personally, I'm a big believer in different varieties of push ups over lifting with the upper body.

I don't think he's saying they are going to rep it 30 times; he is saying if you are working with something you can't rep 30 times you are working with too much weight.

Man this is a huge problem at my school... I have many guys in-season that show up for a practice (or game) and can't even lift their arms.

Thanks trojan-skipper, that is exactly what I was trying to say, you just said it better.

Time will tell, but this is going to become a "trend" as other parents push their kids... Now we want them in JC instead of being a HS junior or senior?? Are you serious? IMO most, if not all 16 yr old JRs are not ready for this type of jump. Just my .02 cents...

GED10DaD

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Originally posted by GunEmDown10:
Time will tell, but this is going to become a "trend" as other parents push their kids... Now we want them in JC instead of being a HS junior or senior?? Are you serious? IMO most, if not all 16 yr old JRs are not ready for this type of jump. Just my .02 cents...

GED10DaD

Ding, ding, ding...........

We have a winner.