What is your take on this d3 (offer?)

Your last statement is probably the most germane!

I don't think anyone can put your mind at ease with this info.  Nobody knows enough about the school and situation.  If you wanted to drilldown a bit more, you could research the board to figure out fairly easily which D3 parents here have or have had kids in the NESCAC, Centennial, SCIAC, SCAC, Liberty etc. conferences and try to get info on the specific school via private message.  Alternatively, you could name the conference or broadly hint at it and ask anyone with 411 to PM you.

Good luck!

@HSDad22 posted:

(Reach School D3)  After asking my son about what he wants in a school, did not ask anything about his skill etc. they finish a 10 minute back and forth on the topic.  Head Coach says "Really like what I see in your video , exactly what we recruit, Size and velocity wise, and we work towards putting on 2-3mph a year while you are here.  You will have my last spot. Coach then asked how he applied (ed or rd), will mark him as athletic recruit to admissions (says he'd be his last recruit for 2022), next steps "we" get accepted, get deposit in, and you have a roster spot for SPRING, after that everyone has to make the team each year."

Asked son if coach said he'd get him through admissions and all I could get was an "I think so". To me all this means is we are waiting for ED decision from school (sometime in Feb).  he had applied Regular decision before talking to coach and then upgraded it to the next earliest process, otherwise decision would be in March.

I would be a little cautious about a coach's ability to can get everyone through admissions.  I mean it's great if he can but why would a coach have that much pull with admissions.  Usually, it's a few to 4-5 chits.  I am likely thinking more about high academic schools though - you call this school a reach so I could be conflating the two incorrectly.   

Also, the comment that everyone has to make the team each year is one that jumps out at me.  If you analyze the roster year to year you will be able to see how many Freshmen make it through to Sophomores and Sophomores to Juniors etc.   Based on your comments about size of each recruiting class and the size of the team it would seem like everyone makes the team each year (unless they bring in a ton of transfers).   My suggestion is to do the roster analysis or go to a site like collegebaseballinsights. That site might have the data for this school.  Or maybe DM @CollegebaseballInsights

I have no answers, but man, I dread this when my son starts having these specific conversations. Usually the second he hangs up or finishes the conversation most of the details are gone from his memory. It does sound like the coach is using a recruiting slot with admissions for your son. Have they discussed his transcripts and test scores? It would be tough for a coach to commit his support to a recruit where he isn't familiar with the player's transcripts.

What Gunner Mack says, as far as a roster spot goes. The only thing he can really offer is help with admissions.  If he says he's doing that, then you just have to wait.  Did your son also apply RD to other schools?  In that sense, you're doing the same thing that everyone else in the country is doing.  The wait is excruciating, with or without baseball.  Good luck.

hi thanks for the replies, and I know it's tough without specifics.  And honestly, I doubt at this stage he is being helped through admissions, more like maybe a flag on the application that he's an athletic recruit which is what was mentioned, this is probably about the extent of it, whatever weight that carries.  My understanding is there is a specifically designated Admissions officer who works with the coaches, but that is the most I know.  The school is in the NEWMAC if someone has experience, but that's about as specific as I'd prefer to get at this point.  Maybe if someone has an idea of how much leeway is given to recruits at these schools (obviously not talking MIT and not the lower end with Springfield, but a middle of the road school for the conference)

PS. he doesn't need much, but he is just slightly under the average admitted student.  Which is enough to give me an ulcer.

My son plays in the NEWMAC. I will DM you to see if I can be of any additional assistance.

@Gunner Mack Jr. posted:

I would be a little cautious about a coach's ability to can get everyone through admissions.  I mean it's great if he can but why would a coach have that much pull with admissions.  Usually, it's a few to 4-5 chits.  I am likely thinking more about high academic schools though - you call this school a reach so I could be conflating the two incorrectly.   

Also, the comment that everyone has to make the team each year is one that jumps out at me.  If you analyze the roster year to year you will be able to see how many Freshmen make it through to Sophomores and Sophomores to Juniors etc.   Based on your comments about size of each recruiting class and the size of the team it would seem like everyone makes the team each year (unless they bring in a ton of transfers).   My suggestion is to do the roster analysis or go to a site like collegebaseballinsights. That site might have the data for this school.  Or maybe DM @CollegebaseballInsights

Here is the thread that outlines how to determine if we've uploaded a colleges 2021 Fall Roster (will display as 2022)

https://community.hsbaseballwe...trition-first-glance

Amazing schools! I can only imagine how crazy it is to pivot now if you were thinking post grad up until now. I also 1,000,000% commiserate with the difficulty of getting information out of a manchild whose prefrontal cortex hasn't completely matured. Good luck. It sounds like you have some great leads.

@PTWood posted:

Amazing schools! I can only imagine how crazy it is to pivot now if you were thinking post grad up until now. I also 1,000,000% commiserate with the difficulty of getting information out of a manchild whose prefrontal cortex hasn't completely matured. Good luck. It sounds like you have some great leads.

You aren't kidding... common ap, SA's, FAFSA, CSS, pushing teachers to get the recommendations in that were requested months ago, etc. , all finishing in like a week.  The post grad was all set up, PG coach wants him and application process was a formality.  We are still pursuing it as a back up.  Everything just flip flopped, colleges were the backup or really just the "let's see what happens" plan, now it's full court press.

Yeah, the prefrontal has another 6-8 years to go.

Regardless of how educationally skilled a boy may be at 16-18 you get such articulate responses as indiscernible grunts, uh huh, ok and fine. It was easier to have an intelligent conversation with my daughter when she was twelve. When she tuned fourteen someone lit her hair on fire. Then, I didn’t understand anything according to her.

@RJM posted:

Regardless of how educationally skilled a boy may be at 16-18 you get such articulate responses as indiscernible grunts, uh huh, ok and fine. It was easier to have an intelligent conversation with my daughter when she was twelve. When she tuned fourteen someone lit her hair on fire. Then, I didn’t understand anything according to her.

Oh lord yes,  conversations usually go like this.  but you didn't... did you ask...are you sure...why didn't you...aargh,,, leave the room and send in the (Dr. of Psychology) wife to finish the conversation.

Generally speaking, if he applied ED and was flagged as an athletic recruit, I think you will be pleasantly surprised even though the wait will be no fun.  ED signals “demonstrated interest” to schools and also locks you in so that has real value from the schools’ perspective and bumps odds.  So if you quickly pivoted to ED from RD, you are a wise and dedicated father.  You stacked the deck the best you can-and it makes a real difference.

The ED with coach flag was a factual boost.  From here it gets fuzzier.  For example, is he roughly at the 25%tile of the schools published academic range?   You can google this and get the 25%-75%tile range.  From our experience with recent D3’s in the northeast, 25%tile, ED and Coach nod gets you in- no question.  We have definitely seen plenty lower ( approximately 2-3 ACT points below the 25%tile)  but those kids were ED1 and full support players (early recruits). Watching D3 players we know over past 2 years, virtually every player (if not all) got the acceptance in a situation where a seasoned coach was involved and projected some confidence even when it was borderline so I like your odds.

BTW, it is funny to hear the points about kids talking to coaches.  My son was the same. He did all his own negotiations but before that, the most serious conversation I witnessed of his was his ordering at Chick-fil-A.  Coaches want to get to know the kid.  Somehow it works out. Have faith.

Thats great info BBSB. Thx

Got the letter, he’s in!  And with Merrit I wasn’t expecting Feel like break dancing.

@HSDad22 posted:

Got the letter, he’s in!  And with Merrit I wasn’t expecting Feel like break dancing.

Go for it. Congrats!

Congratulations! Careful with the BreakDancing-don't pull anything! LOL

Never be afraid to dance …

https://youtu.be/c7ri-VcdbpQ

Congratulations! Awesome to hear.

Congrats! I can dig up my boombox, bring a sheet of cardboard, and have EMT on standby. It will be TikTok gold.

@2022NYC posted:

Congrats! I can dig up my boombox, bring a sheet of cardboard, and have EMT on standby. It will be TikTok gold.

I said "feel like" and we'll leave it at that.  lol

Thanks all for the support.