I have a grumbling line for this: I can teach them what to do. But I can't go out there and do it for them.quote:I've seen many a rundown that was poorly executed (IMHO) but never because I thought the team was poorly coached....
quote:Bottom line appears to be: don't ever talk to coach. Not worth it.
I think it's ok to speak with a coach if he engages in a conversation, but don't be put off if he doesn't. When you do talk to him, if you talk about baseball, don't talk about your son/playing time/other players/decisions made in games. Too many places for that to go wrong and be misintrepreted even if you don't mean it badly.
C is my answer, but I think the closed mouth also goes at home. Undermining a coach at home with rants and raves sends a very mixed message to the player. I always cringe as I watch teams where the players have been told direnctly or indirectly that they are being coached improperly.
The players are going to have to listen to someone other than mome & pop sooner or later. A message to junior that they should not listen to coach has long range impact.
The players are going to have to listen to someone other than mome & pop sooner or later. A message to junior that they should not listen to coach has long range impact.
I was checking in at the Tournament Directors table at summer tournament.....a few of the dads from the local league were standing around talking about the HS coach who had recently had his position opened up....
One particular daddy coach of an upcoming freshman said that it was a good thing that they had let the coach go since he was a lousy coach and not the kind of man you want your son to play for...
I know the coach...and a few years ago my son played for him.....I had to asked Daddy if he knew the following facts....
What is the winningest program at the HS in the past 5 years??..... Baseball... (2 section titles)
What program has the highest QPA in the past 5 years??....Baseball (9 varsity players in the National Honor Society my sons senior year)
What program has the lowest behavioral incidents (explusions,detentions)in the past 5 years?....Baseball...(coach had zero tolerance for bad behavior in school)
What program has put more players in college baseball on scholarships in the past 5 years??.....Baseball (5 including my son)
His answer....No, he knew none of those things...
and I had to say one last thing ....
Seems to me the kind of man you dont want your kid to play for is the man who would slander another coach without knowing any of the facts about the program....
If your judgement of the program is only the win/loss record or how they teach the run down........you need some priorities straightened out.....
A good number of Freshman team players never set foot on a HS varsity baseball field.....and the Vast amount of HS players never set foot on a college baseball field.....
Its got to be about more than wins and losses.....like character development,physical fitness, discipline, teamwork and joy of the game....those are lessons that that turn boys into good employees, husbands and fathers..... and if they get to go to college and play baseball??? what a bonus....since the end of the baseball road comes for all of us....
This website can be a double edged sword.....it is the joining of the hopeful with the priviledged few.....the hopeful parents of up and coming players and those of us who by fortune have had sons go on to college baseball careers....and some even on to the professional ranks...
Sit down, relax, enjoy the ride for what its worth for as long as it lasts....
Just my .02 of course....
One particular daddy coach of an upcoming freshman said that it was a good thing that they had let the coach go since he was a lousy coach and not the kind of man you want your son to play for...
I know the coach...and a few years ago my son played for him.....I had to asked Daddy if he knew the following facts....
What is the winningest program at the HS in the past 5 years??..... Baseball... (2 section titles)
What program has the highest QPA in the past 5 years??....Baseball (9 varsity players in the National Honor Society my sons senior year)
What program has the lowest behavioral incidents (explusions,detentions)in the past 5 years?....Baseball...(coach had zero tolerance for bad behavior in school)
What program has put more players in college baseball on scholarships in the past 5 years??.....Baseball (5 including my son)
His answer....No, he knew none of those things...
and I had to say one last thing ....
Seems to me the kind of man you dont want your kid to play for is the man who would slander another coach without knowing any of the facts about the program....
If your judgement of the program is only the win/loss record or how they teach the run down........you need some priorities straightened out.....
A good number of Freshman team players never set foot on a HS varsity baseball field.....and the Vast amount of HS players never set foot on a college baseball field.....
Its got to be about more than wins and losses.....like character development,physical fitness, discipline, teamwork and joy of the game....those are lessons that that turn boys into good employees, husbands and fathers..... and if they get to go to college and play baseball??? what a bonus....since the end of the baseball road comes for all of us....
This website can be a double edged sword.....it is the joining of the hopeful with the priviledged few.....the hopeful parents of up and coming players and those of us who by fortune have had sons go on to college baseball careers....and some even on to the professional ranks...
Sit down, relax, enjoy the ride for what its worth for as long as it lasts....
Just my .02 of course....
I've seen a similar scenario and dont think that your stretching the truth or picking n the coaching because of another issue. Plainly, sometimes it happens....you run into coaching that lack an understanding of fundamentals, or in some cases is the exact opposite of what you or others have taught your kid over the years.
Having said that, DO NOT voice your concern. Fortunately or unfortunately , your role is that of parent, not coach. By voicing your disagreement you just make an enemy, and confuse the heck out of the kid.
In our situation, I told my guy to do it the way he was taught until pressed or called out...and then do it the coaches way. Most kids can spot in a second the diference between what they've been taught and the "other way".
The other thing is feel free to supplemt your sons training on the weekends. We do that regardless of wether or not their is a coaching/technique disagreement with coach or not.I really believe in most things in life, but especially baseball, the only ay to get near the top and/or achieve your dreams is dedicated hard work on your own time.
I can only speak for the folks I know that post here... me and 2BMom, and I know our guys spend a good 15-20 saturday/sundays a year (and many evenings hitting off a tee all alone) a year working extra by themselves on repitions...over and over and over and over again!
Having said that, DO NOT voice your concern. Fortunately or unfortunately , your role is that of parent, not coach. By voicing your disagreement you just make an enemy, and confuse the heck out of the kid.
In our situation, I told my guy to do it the way he was taught until pressed or called out...and then do it the coaches way. Most kids can spot in a second the diference between what they've been taught and the "other way".
The other thing is feel free to supplemt your sons training on the weekends. We do that regardless of wether or not their is a coaching/technique disagreement with coach or not.I really believe in most things in life, but especially baseball, the only ay to get near the top and/or achieve your dreams is dedicated hard work on your own time.
I can only speak for the folks I know that post here... me and 2BMom, and I know our guys spend a good 15-20 saturday/sundays a year (and many evenings hitting off a tee all alone) a year working extra by themselves on repitions...over and over and over and over again!
Mom,
You do bring up some good topics and you sure do handle negative comments with some dignity. I think everyone appreciates that. Now if you don't mind, I'd like to pile on!
Two things come to mind. Actually three! I mean four!
1. It can be helpful to have your kids understand the “Coach is always right” theory.
2. If this complaining about the coach is going on in front of the player, it is likely to end up being a terrible example.
3. Run Downs: I have my way of doing them, others might prefer teaching another way. One thing for sure… when people get caught up in how the coach is teaching the run down… they are worrying about way too much. And how run downs are taught is really insignificant. Next coach simply does it different and the player adjusts accordingly to the new way. It's a very easy adjustment!
4. If all your husband can find to complain about is how they execute the rundown, he really doesn’t understand the game that well, or else he would find much more important things to complain about. Things that might actually hinder your players development and chance to be successful.
FWIW, in my lifetime I was taught at least four different ways to “properly” execute a run down. Most from very good coaches. In fact, the most generally accepted method these days, was a complete no-no years ago. I would also imagine that the skill level of a certain team could dictate the way things are taught. What if the coach was right and dad is wrong? Is that even possible?
You do bring up some good topics and you sure do handle negative comments with some dignity. I think everyone appreciates that. Now if you don't mind, I'd like to pile on!
Two things come to mind. Actually three! I mean four!
1. It can be helpful to have your kids understand the “Coach is always right” theory.
2. If this complaining about the coach is going on in front of the player, it is likely to end up being a terrible example.
3. Run Downs: I have my way of doing them, others might prefer teaching another way. One thing for sure… when people get caught up in how the coach is teaching the run down… they are worrying about way too much. And how run downs are taught is really insignificant. Next coach simply does it different and the player adjusts accordingly to the new way. It's a very easy adjustment!
4. If all your husband can find to complain about is how they execute the rundown, he really doesn’t understand the game that well, or else he would find much more important things to complain about. Things that might actually hinder your players development and chance to be successful.
FWIW, in my lifetime I was taught at least four different ways to “properly” execute a run down. Most from very good coaches. In fact, the most generally accepted method these days, was a complete no-no years ago. I would also imagine that the skill level of a certain team could dictate the way things are taught. What if the coach was right and dad is wrong? Is that even possible?
quote:Originally posted by LHPMom2012:
Say you'd coached your son in travel ball for several years, attending coaching seminars, studying books, attending lots of minor league games, studying best practices, etc.
And tonight you went and picked up your now hs freshman son from JV practice, and saw the JV coach teaching the team the wrong things and basically running a worthless, albeit long, session.
Would you:
A -- call the varsity coach (who recruited your son to come to this school) and politely share your concerns? (Coach does not have a rep for taking feedback well)
B -- try to chat up the JV coach and find out why he's teaching what he's teaching?
C -- ignore it?
Of course this is totally and completely hypothetical. I only coached rec.
LHPMom
c -- ignore it
HS is the time to let go of the daddyball mentality, let the kid grow up and if the kid has any issues or questions for the coach regarding the game, let the kid do it. It's his baseball experience, not yours. Time to let go. A parent's job is to go watch the games if they can make it and support the booster club or whatever fundrasers are necessary.
quote:I appreciate the plethora of comments about keeping one's mouth shut, and will advise the angry former travel coach to whom I'm married and whose rant last night after watching son's practice prompted this post.
LOL! That is funny.
As a coach who has occasionally been approached by parents, I'll say this even though I'm late to the party on this thread. Keep you mouth shut unless something comes up that deals with negligence that will endanger kids.
In closing, let me relate a conversation I once had with a mom whose son is now playing baseball at a well regarded D1 school. She asked me, when her son was 14, "How are we going to deal with problems when we don't agree with how you run things ?" (By the way, this mom is an attorney with way too much testosterone) I simply looked at her and said "WE aren't going to handle anything. I'll shake your hand and apologize for failing to meet your ridiculous expectations while I hand you back your money." She was shocked and asked if I'd really kick her son off the team. I assured her that, #1 yes I would and #2, I really didn't give a dam* about what she or her husband thought. I told her that if they had a better idea about how to do, then I'd encourage them to do what I had done...start their own team.
This is for parents of kids incoming to high school ball. There are three simple rules. They should have been learned way before high school.
Rule 1) Coaches coach
Rule 2) Players play
Rule 3) Parents cheer
Stay within your boundaries. The coaches will. The players will unless parents infect their minds.
Rule 1) Coaches coach
Rule 2) Players play
Rule 3) Parents cheer
Stay within your boundaries. The coaches will. The players will unless parents infect their minds.
I think BOF hit the nail right on the head...
"shut up and sit down"
This is the coaches team, not yours.
No wonder HS coaches get so flustered. A majority of parents think they know more than the coach on how to coach, and who should on team and/or starting.
p.s. Don't shoot the messenger.
"shut up and sit down"
This is the coaches team, not yours.
No wonder HS coaches get so flustered. A majority of parents think they know more than the coach on how to coach, and who should on team and/or starting.
p.s. Don't shoot the messenger.
Boy am I glad there was no internet with sites like this when I went into HS---instead of just going out and playing baseball I might have gotten all confused and my parents might have gotten in my way
quote:What if the coach was right and dad is wrong? Is that even possible?
Now this brings up a whole different subject. hehe
Is there really a Bigfoot.
EH
Yes there is a Big Foot, A Loch Ness Monster and Aliens!!!
Nothing new to add here. I think many, including PG and BOF have given you great advice. Dad needs to chill out and if he's truly a great coach, he will understand there's many ways to skin a cat. He'll support and appreciate the efforts that your son's coach is giving. I can promise him and you that not all the parents sitting in the stands watching him coach agreed with what he was doing. That's one of the marvelous perks of being a coach... having all the expert advice from the parentals. He needs to sit back and enjoy your son's HS years and allow you to do so as well.
quote:Originally posted by TRhit:
Boy am I glad there was no internet with sites like this when I went into HS---instead of just going out and playing baseball I might have gotten all confused and my parents might have gotten in my way
Since you feel www cheated many of the HSBBW posters got together to "get in your way, and confuse you" til the end of time to make up for those lost moments. No need to thank anyone, we've done it just for you.
RZ
Seriously----don't you ever wonder how we managed back then ?-- there was no outside influence
There are times I try to figure out how it happened for my boys before internet and showcases etc--
Seriously----don't you ever wonder how we managed back then ?-- there was no outside influence
There are times I try to figure out how it happened for my boys before internet and showcases etc--
quote:TRhit quote:
Seriously----don't you ever wonder how we managed back then ?
Couldn't agree more. I think fewer went to college and those that did went for the education. Many jocks passed up college to work, fight wars, and those athletes who played stayed closer to home.
Being from a State with a timber industry, smoke signals was considered a HS foreign language and main means for communication.
rz1 as a kid. I ran the PA and scoreboard for the team. My given name was "Lefty lacking tools"
rz,
Does your cheese have holes in it?
Does your cheese have holes in it?
quote:Originally posted by PGStaff:
rz,
Does your cheese have holes in it?
Not when I was young
btw- At 14 yrs old I worked at a cheese factory skimming the best curd you've ever tasted, or ever will.
quote:Sit down, relax, enjoy the ride for what its worth for as long as it lasts....
That's a least a $1.00's worth.............
LHPMom:
Our kids play in the same general area. My Senior LHP plays for one of the local public high schools. After 4 years of exposure to the High School program, I can safely say that 90% of my contact with the Varsity and JV coaches has been: "Nice game, see you next time".
By the way, I have coached travel ball and for the past four years I have coached one of this high schools fall or summer baseball teams. The Coaches keep their distance from the parents, even those that are active in the program. It works out for the best that way. I can't imagine suggesting to the Coach that something they are teaching is wrong. Our job as parents is to support the program as needed, support our children in a balanced way, and let the Coaches coach.
Good luck to your Son and your Husband. Enjoy the season. It goes by in the blink of an eye.
Our kids play in the same general area. My Senior LHP plays for one of the local public high schools. After 4 years of exposure to the High School program, I can safely say that 90% of my contact with the Varsity and JV coaches has been: "Nice game, see you next time".
By the way, I have coached travel ball and for the past four years I have coached one of this high schools fall or summer baseball teams. The Coaches keep their distance from the parents, even those that are active in the program. It works out for the best that way. I can't imagine suggesting to the Coach that something they are teaching is wrong. Our job as parents is to support the program as needed, support our children in a balanced way, and let the Coaches coach.
Good luck to your Son and your Husband. Enjoy the season. It goes by in the blink of an eye.
LHP Mom;
Would it be possible to describe the difference between the HS Coach and your husband procedure for the "run down" defensive drill?
When we travel to Australia last December with our Cubs International team of players ages 15-16 from all regions of the USA. Every parent watched in amazement of the drills conducted by Charlie, a Cubs East Coast Pro scout and minor league instructor.
After 20 hours in the plane the players assembled on the practice field and the first drill was the execution of the "run down".
Several parents recorded on camera and several others recorded in a dairy.
This was Charlie's 3rd journey with our Goodwill Series to Australia. He will also return next December for a 12 game Goodwill Series Series.
We will have scouts from the Cubs, Rays and Reds on this 26th International Goodwill event.
Bob
Would it be possible to describe the difference between the HS Coach and your husband procedure for the "run down" defensive drill?
When we travel to Australia last December with our Cubs International team of players ages 15-16 from all regions of the USA. Every parent watched in amazement of the drills conducted by Charlie, a Cubs East Coast Pro scout and minor league instructor.
After 20 hours in the plane the players assembled on the practice field and the first drill was the execution of the "run down".
Several parents recorded on camera and several others recorded in a dairy.
This was Charlie's 3rd journey with our Goodwill Series to Australia. He will also return next December for a 12 game Goodwill Series Series.
We will have scouts from the Cubs, Rays and Reds on this 26th International Goodwill event.
Bob
Hi Bob,
I'm sure someone could describe the difference; I'm just not sure that someone should be me! The way my husband coached the run-down -- which is the same way I'd seen it performed against us -- was you've got a runner in the middle, the two kids on either side throwing the ball to each other, two kids behind those kids backing them up, and everyone moving in on the runner -- I think it's called "pinching?" Or maybe some other part of the drill is the "pinch." See, I know nothing! Nothing! Thank God for you guys. When I try to get my husband to explain something to me, he just dismisses me with, "You wouldn't understand."
LHPMom
I'm sure someone could describe the difference; I'm just not sure that someone should be me! The way my husband coached the run-down -- which is the same way I'd seen it performed against us -- was you've got a runner in the middle, the two kids on either side throwing the ball to each other, two kids behind those kids backing them up, and everyone moving in on the runner -- I think it's called "pinching?" Or maybe some other part of the drill is the "pinch." See, I know nothing! Nothing! Thank God for you guys. When I try to get my husband to explain something to me, he just dismisses me with, "You wouldn't understand."
LHPMom
LHPmom, I look forward to others reactions, but I think you described it just fine. Neither 2B's HS team or summer travel team does the pinching thing - I've never heard of it, but the way you describe it, I can picture it. My own son has juked out an infielder or two trying to "pinch" him, and stayed in the baseline safely when he should have been a dead duck. All of the put-outs I've seen on our teams have been close to a base, or just a faster infielder running down a slower baserunner. Seems like a matter of running the guy close to the base and then timing the throw to tag him out. They still get 'em out. Different strokes, no biggie. Seems to me like if you "pinch" a runner in the middle of the base path, there are too many ways for a good athlete run the gauntlet safely. On the other hand, if you get him closer to a base, he doesn't have so many options. Just a guess. It may be just the difference between HS and pre-HS travel - the different level of athleticism you're going to see in the older, more experienced players.
My husband knows everything too, so I feel ya.
My husband knows everything too, so I feel ya.
Thowing the ball to each other? If I saw this being taught I'd wonder, "What's this BS?" My fielders attack the runner and either tag him out or make one short throw ahead of him to be tagged out.quote:The way my husband coached the run-down -- which is the same way I'd seen it performed against us -- was you've got a runner in the middle, the two kids on either side throwing the ball to each other, two kids behind those kids backing them up, and everyone moving in on the runner -- I think it's called "pinching?"
"My own son has juked out an infielder or two trying to "pinch" him"
This rundown method can get too many fielders in the basepath. I train baserunners to turn into the fielder without the ball to get an obstruction call.
"if you get him closer to a base, he doesn't have so many options."
Give the lady a prize! You get the runner to commit to a direction and get him out on zero or one throw.
Geez, RJM. I was trying to be nice to the new poster. Everyone here is aware that you, too, know everything.
MOM's;
Please continue to explore and ask questions. When we travel Internationally the mothers are as knowledgeable and the men. We request a "open" communication between the parents and our coaches.
It is an important opportunity to learn.
"RUNDOWNS" FROM A ML TEAM PLAYBOOK
OUR MAIN CONCERN WITH RUNDOWNS IS GETTING THE TAG MADE AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE WITH THE LEAST AMOUNT OF THROWS. WHEN A RUNNER IS IN A RUNDOWN, THE FIELDER WITH THE BALL SHOULD GET THE RUNNER GOING AS FAST AS HE CAN.
The tagger should stay to the side of the baseline that is on the same side as the throwing arm of the fielder with the ball. This will prevent throws across the runner.
When the runner is about 10 feet from the tagger, the tagger will say "NOW" as he takes a step or two forward to receive the throw. Please avoid receiving throws flat-footed.
After throwing the ball, clear from the rundown without interfering with the runner.
REMEMBER:
1. Run the runner hard
2. Make chest-high throws
3. Do not fake with the ball as you are running at the runner.
4. Tagger should close the gap between the himself and the runner.
Anytime a runner is "pick off" 1b, the SS takes the throw from the 1st baseman with the 2nd baseman backing up the SS. The RF will back up the 1b.
With runner on 1b and 2b, if the runner is pick off 1b, the pitcher will back up 3b.The left fielder will also back up 3b.
Maybe this will assist in your discussion with the player, the coach, your husband and the other parents.
For 26 years on our trips to Australia, Japan, China and Korea our coaches often provide clinical discussions and the coaches of the countries engage in a sharing educational Goodwill program.
Bob
Please continue to explore and ask questions. When we travel Internationally the mothers are as knowledgeable and the men. We request a "open" communication between the parents and our coaches.
It is an important opportunity to learn.
"RUNDOWNS" FROM A ML TEAM PLAYBOOK
OUR MAIN CONCERN WITH RUNDOWNS IS GETTING THE TAG MADE AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE WITH THE LEAST AMOUNT OF THROWS. WHEN A RUNNER IS IN A RUNDOWN, THE FIELDER WITH THE BALL SHOULD GET THE RUNNER GOING AS FAST AS HE CAN.
The tagger should stay to the side of the baseline that is on the same side as the throwing arm of the fielder with the ball. This will prevent throws across the runner.
When the runner is about 10 feet from the tagger, the tagger will say "NOW" as he takes a step or two forward to receive the throw. Please avoid receiving throws flat-footed.
After throwing the ball, clear from the rundown without interfering with the runner.
REMEMBER:
1. Run the runner hard
2. Make chest-high throws
3. Do not fake with the ball as you are running at the runner.
4. Tagger should close the gap between the himself and the runner.
Anytime a runner is "pick off" 1b, the SS takes the throw from the 1st baseman with the 2nd baseman backing up the SS. The RF will back up the 1b.
With runner on 1b and 2b, if the runner is pick off 1b, the pitcher will back up 3b.The left fielder will also back up 3b.
Maybe this will assist in your discussion with the player, the coach, your husband and the other parents.
For 26 years on our trips to Australia, Japan, China and Korea our coaches often provide clinical discussions and the coaches of the countries engage in a sharing educational Goodwill program.
Bob
Thank you, Bob. That was a very helpful contribution.
2 conversations with the HC. Both of them were by phone. 1st before tryouts explaining where he thought 27 would fit "provided he was as good or better than I witnessed last fall". 2nd after tryouts stating that he was as good or better, and he was good enough to be "called up".
Both conversations ended with dad saying, "playing time, pitching, batting order, position, practice, etc are yours coach. You tell me how much, when, and where. I pay, show up and cheer."
We both feel the "division of labor" is just right.
FWIW: Sophomore coach played for the A's organization; JV coach played for the Royals and Cards and has a WS ring with each; pitching coach played 22 years in MLB and has a WS ring with the D-backs; HC played in the Cardinal's organization. OTOH: Dad played a season of varsity ball as a right-fielder. I do believe the coaches outrank me in the practice and strategy departments, regardless of how many "seasons" I helped coach a "Super-league" team.
That's the way we parents should view our sons' HS coaches. Just my .02...
Both conversations ended with dad saying, "playing time, pitching, batting order, position, practice, etc are yours coach. You tell me how much, when, and where. I pay, show up and cheer."
We both feel the "division of labor" is just right
.FWIW: Sophomore coach played for the A's organization; JV coach played for the Royals and Cards and has a WS ring with each; pitching coach played 22 years in MLB and has a WS ring with the D-backs; HC played in the Cardinal's organization. OTOH: Dad played a season of varsity ball as a right-fielder. I do believe the coaches outrank me in the practice and strategy departments, regardless of how many "seasons" I helped coach a "Super-league" team.
That's the way we parents should view our sons' HS coaches. Just my .02...
My point is her husband thought the high school coach was teaching rundowns wrong because he teaches it a different way. My perception from her description is her husband teaches rundowns incorrectly. Maybe the high school coach IS right.quote:Originally posted by 2Bmom:
Geez, RJM. I was trying to be nice to the new poster. Everyone here is aware that you, too, know everything.
I apologize for expressing my opinion on her husband's perception of the coach being wrong. I guess there isn't room for opinion on the board. Next time, will you please tell what I should think and say. Thank you in advance for your help. And by a following post, It looks like I WAS right.
My apologies for a flippant response. It just annoys me when one person tries to tell another person how to post when the answer is correct and criticizes the person for being correct.
quote:Originally posted by 27"sDad:
2 conversations with the HC. Both of them were by phone.
Is that what the head coach of the high school team normally does? Not saying it's right or wrong because it's his program and probably knows better and runs his program his way but it is curious to understand why the head coach would call the parents and spell out their players roles on the team.
When my son played, his varsity coach told him his role in the beginning of the season and what he expected from him. His role changed very quickly because he was apparently told he was going platoon in the outfield and get an opportunity for significant playing time. He wound up the everyday rightfielder (which is where he's played the most with some time in center)When he didn't start in the field, was the DH (which he didn't expect because there were other players on the bench who had their roles)He also went fron hitting 6th early on in the season to batting 3rd.
Point is that why would a coach call a parent to give them the skinny on the player if there's a chance that role could change throughout the year?
Suppose a player was slated to be the starter but the bat never woke up and got relegated to the bench?
Or is it this procedure of calling the parents the way to go because the coach lays it all out there for the parents and there's no surprises?
Another thought is does the coach only call his 2-3 impact players parents because they're the team leaders?
I have had the varsity head coach from my son's other sport call my house but it was always to talk to him, not me.
Personally I do not like this approach---talk to the player not the parents-- by doing it the way this coach is doing it he is opening a pandoras box
zombywoof (and TRhit),
It appears the HC does this with 1st-year players, for that very reason. The initial conversation is with the player. The phone call to the parents is to keep politics and "gossip" out of the equation. He wants "mom and dad" to understand what he has already covered with the player.
Not to my knowledge. Although this is our first year in the program, so we may find out more in the future.
There have been a few of those calls as well: "27's Dad, this is Coach...is 27 there?" More often, though, it's the text message. That seems to be the modern form of coach/player off-the-field communications.
quote:Or is it this procedure of calling the parents the way to go because the coach lays it all out there for the parents and there's no surprises?
It appears the HC does this with 1st-year players, for that very reason. The initial conversation is with the player. The phone call to the parents is to keep politics and "gossip" out of the equation. He wants "mom and dad" to understand what he has already covered with the player.
quote:Another thought is does the coach only call his 2-3 impact players parents because they're the team leaders?
Not to my knowledge. Although this is our first year in the program, so we may find out more in the future.
quote:I have had the varsity head coach from my son's other sport call my house but it was always to talk to him, not me.
There have been a few of those calls as well: "27's Dad, this is Coach...is 27 there?" More often, though, it's the text message. That seems to be the modern form of coach/player off-the-field communications.
quote:It appears the HC does this with 1st-year players, for that very reason. The initial conversation is with the player. The phone call to the parents is to keep politics and "gossip" out of the equation. He wants "mom and dad" to understand what he has already covered with the player.
That would seem to make sense and if that initial call is to get them early on in the program, lay out the groundrules for the next four years and potentially diffuse any problems with gossip etc.