All star little league canceled. and not because of rain.
http://www.myfoxcleveland.com/myfox/pages/News/Detail?c...de=TSTY&pageId=3.2.1
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How pathetic.
This kind of thinking is sickening.
This kind of thinking is sickening.
"According to Mayor Gordon, so far, he has received nearly no opposition to the cancellation of the game."
First of all, I'm sure he's lying.
Secondly, maybe he should hear some opposition from the HSBBWers.
City of Beachwood, Ohio
Mayor Merle S. Gorden
25325 Fairmount Blvd.
Beachwood, Ohio 44122
(216) 464-1070
mayor@beachwoodohio.com
And bring a b arf bag with you if you read the article they use to justify their decision.
There isn't a single valid point in the entire thing.
First of all, I'm sure he's lying.
Secondly, maybe he should hear some opposition from the HSBBWers.
City of Beachwood, Ohio
Mayor Merle S. Gorden
25325 Fairmount Blvd.
Beachwood, Ohio 44122
(216) 464-1070
mayor@beachwoodohio.com
And bring a b arf bag with you if you read the article they use to justify their decision.
There isn't a single valid point in the entire thing.
Just another sign of the times !!!
That's the most rediculous thing I've ever heard! Why have school plays then, because the kids have to try out and might not get the lead part-that might hurt their self esteem too. He talks about the kids in kindergarten, but the all-stars he's talking about are 9-12 years old. In middle school around here kids can start taking honors classes in 7th grade. Isn't that the same thing as all-stars, but rewarding the kids for getting better grades. Should they consider ending honors classes, and maybe AP classes in HS! Sorry, it's just plain rediculous, and I'm surprised it went that far. I feel bad for all those kids that will miss out on their all-star season this year! Hope they wake up soon and realize they made a big mistake! 
I believe it is not the kids that feel bad about NOT being slected for the all-star teams, it is the parents that get emotional about it.
The article points out how a kid that can hardly tie his shoes does not care about all-stars; this probably has some truth to it. But I would bet that the kids picked do enjoy being able to keep playing.
When I coached at that level, I had the kids vote for the players to go on to represent them on the all-star team. They chose the same players I would have picked!
This Mayor MUST be one of those guys never picked for all-stars and it still bothers him!
The article points out how a kid that can hardly tie his shoes does not care about all-stars; this probably has some truth to it. But I would bet that the kids picked do enjoy being able to keep playing.
When I coached at that level, I had the kids vote for the players to go on to represent them on the all-star team. They chose the same players I would have picked!
This Mayor MUST be one of those guys never picked for all-stars and it still bothers him!
What the heck is happening? If you read the article they use to justify the decision you definitely have to be sitting down. these are the same kids that will be going to schools that use every excuse in the book to explain poor grades and bad behavior. I once had a conversation with an adult who was a volunteer umpire in a little league. they were instructed that when a player struck out to say strike 3 your time at bat is over. I asked you are kidding. the answer was no. who is responsible for all this stuff? surely not the kids. It is adults and that is the sad part.
SARCASM ALERT:
Why didn't they simply put everyone on the team, preserving self esteem en masse? Progress made while striving to reach a goal is not wotrth the emotional trauma for those not reaching it.
Why didn't they simply put everyone on the team, preserving self esteem en masse? Progress made while striving to reach a goal is not wotrth the emotional trauma for those not reaching it.
What a sap that mayor must be. The players ALWAYS know who the best players are, at every level. Next they won't keep score, or register outs.
I watched a summer college wooden bat game with my 5 year old T-Ball playing great niece recently. Some of her observations:
"Why do they use stick bats? We use real bats."
"Why do they keep running? We stop at the base."
"Why is he going back home?" (a player made an out)
"Does the last guy get to keep running?"
T ball is getting out of control too. I can see not keeping score or standings and the like, but nobody makes outs, everybody goes one base, then with the last batter, everybody comes home. I guess they're learning some fundamentals, but not much.
It looks more like "follow the leader" than baseball.
I watched a summer college wooden bat game with my 5 year old T-Ball playing great niece recently. Some of her observations:
"Why do they use stick bats? We use real bats."
"Why do they keep running? We stop at the base."
"Why is he going back home?" (a player made an out)
"Does the last guy get to keep running?"
T ball is getting out of control too. I can see not keeping score or standings and the like, but nobody makes outs, everybody goes one base, then with the last batter, everybody comes home. I guess they're learning some fundamentals, but not much.
It looks more like "follow the leader" than baseball.
Gordon must be a self-proclaimed mayor because an election surely would have destroyed the self-esteem of many. I hope he wasn't heartless enough to do that.
GAG! GAG! GAG!
P.S. The city must have deep pockets as I am sure they hire everyone who applies for a job. They wouldn't accept one and reject another would they?
GAG! GAG! GAG!
P.S. The city must have deep pockets as I am sure they hire everyone who applies for a job. They wouldn't accept one and reject another would they?
Who is the bigger sap, that Fred Eng wussy or Mayor Sackless? And, what about my self esteem as the parent of a perrenial All-Star? 
This is exactly the kind of thinking that has severely weakened this nation. For that last 30 years the entitlement construct has permeated this country from little leagues to the halls of congress.
The payback will be felt for generations to come, BUT EVERYONE GETS A TROPHY, RIGHT!!!!!!!!!!
Disgusting
The payback will be felt for generations to come, BUT EVERYONE GETS A TROPHY, RIGHT!!!!!!!!!!
Disgusting
Wow, talk about political correctness gone awry !!!
It would be a good idea if people who make decisions about these kind of things actually had a clue as to what goes on with All Stars. Although I was not in favor of Little League adding a lower division all star program (9-10 year old all stars started when our son was 11 or 12), nevertheless we are not talking about kindergarteners. And if it is actually Little League and not some city recreational program, then it is not a solo game, it is a tournament with a goal and whole communities get behind the players. If the league has a reasonable way of selecting the players for the all star team, then they should be allowed to proceed. But of course if the mayor has said no and dictated that they can't play, I am sure he will close the fields to them as well (since most of the fields are probably city owned).
Personally I think the man has overstepped his boundaries as the city mayor ... but this may be his way of getting back at all those kids who picked him last for their team when he was a kid.
By the way ... does that mean we won't see any Cleveland Indians at the MLB All Star game this year?
It would be a good idea if people who make decisions about these kind of things actually had a clue as to what goes on with All Stars. Although I was not in favor of Little League adding a lower division all star program (9-10 year old all stars started when our son was 11 or 12), nevertheless we are not talking about kindergarteners. And if it is actually Little League and not some city recreational program, then it is not a solo game, it is a tournament with a goal and whole communities get behind the players. If the league has a reasonable way of selecting the players for the all star team, then they should be allowed to proceed. But of course if the mayor has said no and dictated that they can't play, I am sure he will close the fields to them as well (since most of the fields are probably city owned).
Personally I think the man has overstepped his boundaries as the city mayor ... but this may be his way of getting back at all those kids who picked him last for their team when he was a kid.
By the way ... does that mean we won't see any Cleveland Indians at the MLB All Star game this year?
quote:Originally posted by TripleDad:
This is exactly the kind of thinking that has severely weakened this nation. For that last 30 years the entitlement construct has permeated this country from little leagues to the halls of congress.
The payback will be felt for generations to come, BUT EVERYONE GETS A TROPHY, RIGHT!!!!!!!!!!
Disgusting
As long as this thought process continues to grow future generations are going to have less and less people that will know how to do anything and take charge. It's emotional welfare. My own mini rebellion against this is that I don't buy from those that advertise that I "deserve" something.
quote:There are kids who can handle exclusion better than others, and kids who can't. Those not chosen as "all-stars" can choose to work harder and set goals or fold the tent. Its the ones who fold the tent that are the concern.
I like this, OK8. When he was eight, 2B was excluded from an all-star team because he had a bad attitude. To make it worse, his best friends couldn't come to his birthday party because they were playing in the all-star tournament! He was devastated, but boy did he straighten up his act the next year. There was nothing I could have done that would have been more effective. He's still emotional at times, but he doesn't jump up and down any more when the call doesn't go his way.
Regarding those who fold the tent, there comes a time to move on and try something different to find out what they are good at. S****r, chess, Scrabble, whatever. Little league baseball can't be expected to cure the nation's obesity epidemic.
Let the all-stars play! According to the poll on the web page, it looks like most folks agree.
Apologies.
I'm going to be blunt.
Fred Engh:
What acrock of cr*p bucket of bologna.
Fred Engh is founder and CEO of the National Alliance for Youth Sports (NAYS) in West Palm Beach, Fla., which has been advocating positive and safe sports for children since 1981.
He can be reached via e-mail at fengh@nays.org.
It is HIS article that spurred Beachwood Mayor Merle Gordon to cancel the All-Star game.
I'm all for advocating positive & safe sports for children,...& everyone is of course allowed their own opinions,...but this guy needs a wake up call.
Perhaps some of us HSBBWer's might pour ourselves another cup of coffee this rainey morning, and enlighten Mr. Engh with our typin' fingers.
I'm going to be blunt.
Fred Engh:
What a
Fred Engh is founder and CEO of the National Alliance for Youth Sports (NAYS) in West Palm Beach, Fla., which has been advocating positive and safe sports for children since 1981.
He can be reached via e-mail at fengh@nays.org.
It is HIS article that spurred Beachwood Mayor Merle Gordon to cancel the All-Star game.
I'm all for advocating positive & safe sports for children,...& everyone is of course allowed their own opinions,...but this guy needs a wake up call.
Perhaps some of us HSBBWer's might pour ourselves another cup of coffee this rainey morning, and enlighten Mr. Engh with our typin' fingers.
Yes, we should bombard him with emails with our thoughts. 
When son played Youth baseball we had an end of year celebration. All players were awarded something, with all star games for each age group to follow and free food, bounce house, activities, games, a whole day at the park.
I can't even remember if son played on All Star team and I doubt he would remember as well.
When son played Youth baseball we had an end of year celebration. All players were awarded something, with all star games for each age group to follow and free food, bounce house, activities, games, a whole day at the park.
I can't even remember if son played on All Star team and I doubt he would remember as well.
What would these people do if they had to deal with what I dealt with as a Little Leaguer in the mid 50's
01---there MAJORS and MINORS ---the majors included 10 thru 12 year olds. The minors were for 8 thru 12 year olds deemed not to have the talent to play in the majors--- boy would that get them rolling in todays world
02-- my buddy lived in a town where the team selection announcements were made on a wall in the corner candy store---you went in to see where your name was on the list and then you went to get your uniform in the back room of the store or did not.
01---there MAJORS and MINORS ---the majors included 10 thru 12 year olds. The minors were for 8 thru 12 year olds deemed not to have the talent to play in the majors--- boy would that get them rolling in todays world
02-- my buddy lived in a town where the team selection announcements were made on a wall in the corner candy store---you went in to see where your name was on the list and then you went to get your uniform in the back room of the store or did not.
Engh's article seems to be directed more at the earliest T-ball age; that the Mayor (who, I agree, should deal with his own issues about about not being selected and cool the transference) chose to apply it to the 9-12 year old group is his mistake.
I disagree with both men, but have more understanding for the former. The Mayor's just an interfering fool.
At what point did this country decide that we were so emotionally damaged as a people that our children's Self Esteem (gawd, I hate that phrase) must be treated so preciously?
The lessons of sports don't stop with physical fitness; we all know how far they extend. And we do our children NO good by denying them those lessons with pablum sports that extend into adolesence.
I disagree with both men, but have more understanding for the former. The Mayor's just an interfering fool.
At what point did this country decide that we were so emotionally damaged as a people that our children's Self Esteem (gawd, I hate that phrase) must be treated so preciously?
The lessons of sports don't stop with physical fitness; we all know how far they extend. And we do our children NO good by denying them those lessons with pablum sports that extend into adolesence.
Our All Star games were memorable and started at age 9.
My boys remember when they made it and when they did not.
I have one son who made it for " hustle and good attitude ",...and not necessarily for his " baseball athletic talent ".
There are a variety of reasons why a kid at this age could be picked to be an All Star.
I found it also interesting ( gag ) that the article written by Mr. Engh himself, included his book for sale on Amazon.
My boys remember when they made it and when they did not.
I have one son who made it for " hustle and good attitude ",...and not necessarily for his " baseball athletic talent ".
There are a variety of reasons why a kid at this age could be picked to be an All Star.
I found it also interesting ( gag ) that the article written by Mr. Engh himself, included his book for sale on Amazon.
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Kum-Bye-YA! Kum-Bye-YA!
About time! Now that we have a good start, I have a few other suggestions as well...
- NO draft, players draw colors (not numbers, too stratifying) out of a hat.
- NO numbers, we wouldn't 1 to feel better abut himself than 12.
- No wins, No Losses, NO standings...all these things stratify and label our precious children.
- No pitching, No hitting...dangerous, unhealthy, stressful (bad for hearts)...there is always an outcome, a winner and a loser, we must not allow that.
- The term "game"...will be shifted to "gathering"...much more inclusive, and does not denote/infer and level of competition.
- Mounds will be leveled...NO ONE should EVER be above anyone else...how insensitive.
- Bases to be removed...Getting ahead by getting to a higher base is an potentially damaging emotional event...and why should home plate be More important?...sets a very,very bad example.
- WE take the lead in the race to be green...Basepaths to be planted in grass, makes our great game green and fights global warming.
- NO snackbar...lowers our Carbon Footprint.
- Now, The GATHERINGS?....here is how the Gatherings run...Everyone gets a name tag...Teams hold hands alternating between teams (Green, Red, Green...)...they skip around the field together. The team then forms a big circle in the middle of the field. A baseball (with a soft center) is given to one child randomly...while he has the ball he has to go around the circle and say he thinks each player is special. Each trip around the circle by the ball constitutes an inning.
Then, organic snacks and biodegradable trophies for all!
Now how about we have a group hug....AWWWW!
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Kum-Bye-YA! Kum-Bye-YA!
About time! Now that we have a good start, I have a few other suggestions as well...
- NO draft, players draw colors (not numbers, too stratifying) out of a hat.
- NO numbers, we wouldn't 1 to feel better abut himself than 12.
- No wins, No Losses, NO standings...all these things stratify and label our precious children.
- No pitching, No hitting...dangerous, unhealthy, stressful (bad for hearts)...there is always an outcome, a winner and a loser, we must not allow that.
- The term "game"...will be shifted to "gathering"...much more inclusive, and does not denote/infer and level of competition.
- Mounds will be leveled...NO ONE should EVER be above anyone else...how insensitive.
- Bases to be removed...Getting ahead by getting to a higher base is an potentially damaging emotional event...and why should home plate be More important?...sets a very,very bad example.
- WE take the lead in the race to be green...Basepaths to be planted in grass, makes our great game green and fights global warming.
- NO snackbar...lowers our Carbon Footprint.
- Now, The GATHERINGS?....here is how the Gatherings run...Everyone gets a name tag...Teams hold hands alternating between teams (Green, Red, Green...)...they skip around the field together. The team then forms a big circle in the middle of the field. A baseball (with a soft center) is given to one child randomly...while he has the ball he has to go around the circle and say he thinks each player is special. Each trip around the circle by the ball constitutes an inning.
Then, organic snacks and biodegradable trophies for all!
Now how about we have a group hug....AWWWW!
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I think we should all march up their and torch their river/lake again.
O44 ...
OMYGAWDDD ... that sounds just like thestupid err ahh enlightened Project Self Esteem gatherings our son had to endure in elementary school. I wanted to b-arf my lunch everytime I read or heard about one ... taking precious time from the limited class time the students had so they could sit around and feel oh so special about themselves and learn how to never hurt anyone's feelings ever again (and they probably also were learning that their mommies should never use another plastic bag for their lunch sandwiches because it was bad for the earth ... a little something extra that came with the first ever 'Earth Day'). In the meantime, the bullies were still on the asphalt during recess, still at the ball fields during baseball, still on the sidewalks traversed on the way home, and some of our youngsters were not capabale of handling any of those situations by themselves because they had learned their PSE lessons so well.
Whew ... glad that's off my chest. I have been wanting to say that since AJ was in second grade
quote:...Everyone gets a name tag...Teams hold hands alternating between teams (Green, Red, Green...)...they skip around the field together. The team then forms a big circle in the middle of the field. A baseball (with a soft center) is given to one child randomly...while he has the ball he has to go around the circle and say he thinks each player is special.
OMYGAWDDD ... that sounds just like the
Whew ... glad that's off my chest. I have been wanting to say that since AJ was in second grade
quote:Originally posted by JT:
I think we should all march up their and torch their river/lake again.
There hasn't been any industrial activity to pollute the NEO waters much anymore so your torch would just douse itself out. Lake Erie is a fishing mecca and its rivers and tributaries even spawn fish. JT, I didn't know you were the person who originally started the Cuyahoga river on fire?
The community involved is a suburb of Cleveland known more for its business district, is not very diverse in culture, and is considered upscale.
Mr. Mayor
(Imagine I have a picture of Charlie Brown with a Big "Good Grief" sign... it would go right here!)
(Imagine I have a picture of Charlie Brown with a Big "Good Grief" sign... it would go right here!)
"According to Mayor Gordon, so far, he has received nearly no oppositionto the cancellation of the game."
Those ticked off didn't complain. They just packed and left for travel ball. They won't be heard from again.
I'd like to thank the Mayor Gordon's of the world. They are making my kid's futures easier. My mentally tough, competitive kids will run roughshod over the kids the Mayor Gordon's of the world protect, in every aspect of life.
Those ticked off didn't complain. They just packed and left for travel ball. They won't be heard from again.
I'd like to thank the Mayor Gordon's of the world. They are making my kid's futures easier. My mentally tough, competitive kids will run roughshod over the kids the Mayor Gordon's of the world protect, in every aspect of life.
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Boy you got that right!.....
I predicted this some time ago...when the more comitted and competitive players and parents leave for the greener pastures of travel ball....
Will someone please turn out the lights on community ball?
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quote:Originally posted by RJM:
Those ticked off didn't complain. They just packed and left for travel ball. They won't be heard from again.
Boy you got that right!.....
I predicted this some time ago...when the more comitted and competitive players and parents leave for the greener pastures of travel ball....
Will someone please turn out the lights on community ball?
44.
quote:I predicted this some time ago...when the more comitted and competitive players and parents leave for the greener pastures of travel ball....
Travel ball? I know I can get 12 players who pay their money and play travel ball. I recently talked to a parent who was associated with a travel team. they went to a "tournament" 16 teams. He openly admitted maybe 3 were good the rest mediocre to poor. Of course not their team.
This as baseball fan's is what we don't want.
Just a bunch of elite players playing travel ball.
Just work to change the attitude's of the people trying to be in charge of something they don't have a clue about.
And the Community ball need's the elite player to play to help the other player's learn the game. JMHO
EH
Just a bunch of elite players playing travel ball.
Just work to change the attitude's of the people trying to be in charge of something they don't have a clue about.
And the Community ball need's the elite player to play to help the other player's learn the game. JMHO
EH
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I would suggest that that is why when the all-stars were cancelled that there was no outcry...without the passion on comitted compeititve players and yes, parents...the passion that used to drive community leagues is lessened/lost and we are left with people in charge who as EH said...have no clue...and take their cues from people who have anti-athletic-competitive agendas. As a result we get Kum-Bye-Ya baseball where we have group hugs after every batter....and no one cares.
At the same time we dilute the travel leagues as they become the "norm"...rather than the exceptional. IT woudl appear that a large % of travel is now economically based rather than ability based.
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I would suggest that that is why when the all-stars were cancelled that there was no outcry...without the passion on comitted compeititve players and yes, parents...the passion that used to drive community leagues is lessened/lost and we are left with people in charge who as EH said...have no clue...and take their cues from people who have anti-athletic-competitive agendas. As a result we get Kum-Bye-Ya baseball where we have group hugs after every batter....and no one cares.
At the same time we dilute the travel leagues as they become the "norm"...rather than the exceptional. IT woudl appear that a large % of travel is now economically based rather than ability based.
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quote:And the Community ball need's the elite player to play to help the other player's learn the game. JMHO
I am always puzzled by who determines the "elite" player. There are so many names floating around out there all star elite select tournament showcase travel etc etc etc.
If you can play you can play. Been around long enough to know if you can somebody will find out no matter what name you put on it.
However it is all about competition. This self esteem stuff has nothing to do if you can play or you can not.
From the original post it seems that society is failing our kids by giving them a false sense of accomplishment. You either can or you can not. to some this sounds cold. It may be but sooner or later kids have to deal with it. How soon is a matter of debate.
I feel fortunate my son's LL was very competitive. I'm not a fan of long trips and spending a lot of money on preteen travel. The only travel he played was a local USSSA Sunday doubleheader league. The participation with the travel league was to constantly face LL all-star type pitching on a weekly basis to prepare for all-stars. Travel didn't become the main gig until he was thirteen.
There were a lot of weak travel teams through 13U. We didn't see as many at 14U. This year (skipped a year up) in 16U even the few weaker teams are playing OK baseball.quote:Originally posted by observer44:
At the same time we dilute the travel leagues as they become the "norm"...rather than the exceptional. IT woudl appear that a large % of travel is now economically based rather than ability based.
I want to bethe mayor of that town. It hurts my self esteem by not being able to be the mayor.
quote:And the Community ball need's the elite player to play to help the other player's learn the game. JMHO
I don't buy into that. What makes good players better is practice and good coaching. Our league had one of these so-called 'elite' players and every team he was on, the old man always thought the teams evolved around his kid. Then the coaches get sucked in and the players see their coaches go goo-goo over him then they forget to play because mr.supserstar will carry the team only to find out that mr.stud can't win when 11 other players sit back and wait for mr.elite to take over the game.
We had that elite player on my son's tournament team some years back and during the middle of tournament play, him and the old man decided a travel tournament with his 'elite' team was more important for his kid, the the tournaments The coach of my kid's team actually was gonna try to reschedule games down the road so the kid will be back to pitch but none of the parents wanted any part of this. We wanted to play on schedule. It was near the end of the tournament season and families had vacations and other plans. Eventually, he came back and the players and coaches had another meeting and decided not to throw him off the team but the player was gonna sit in the tournaments that the team was involved in during his hiatus. The old man wasn't too happy about it but that was what the team decided to do. They did just fine without him by winning one and finishing 2nd in another.
What all too many of the people supposedly "looking out for the kids welfare" do not realize is that the kids in LL like the competition factor of ALL STAR play---we didn't even use the term ALL STAR-- we called our team a summer travel team--- the kids also can name the top 15 players in their league at the drop of the hat---they are more mature than we give them credit for---trust me on this--I ran our towns baseball, basketball and s o k k e r leagues for nearly a decade
Please, this isn't going to turn into another thread about the evil travel ball vs. rec ball is it?
This is about a milquetoast mayor and a so-called "expert" trying to create a mindless, emotionless, unmotivated generation of children.
We once had a mom who told our team that we practice too much and that we should implement more "team-building" exercises.
Huh?
Baseball is the ultimate team-building exercise. I could barely hold myself back from asking her if this involved holding hands around a camp fire singing songs.
Youth baseball is so much more than teaching kids how to play baseball. It teaches them about life. Hard work, trying new things, teamwork, dedication, cooperation, respect, working for goals, being realistic about your abilities, how to work with others, how to respect and get along with authority figures.
Gee, maybe these are all things these kids will need when they get out of school and hit the real world. And they'd better pay attention because not too many of the 1500 young men drafted last week will make it to the show for any appreciable time.
If there's no motiviation to get better and do better, then who will get masters degrees, who will start new small businesses, who will work for a cancer cure?
Milquetoast: a very timid, unassertive, spineless person, esp. one who is easily dominated or intimidated
I'll do my best to make sure my kids and the kids on their baseball teams don't end up like this.
This is about a milquetoast mayor and a so-called "expert" trying to create a mindless, emotionless, unmotivated generation of children.
We once had a mom who told our team that we practice too much and that we should implement more "team-building" exercises.
Huh?
Baseball is the ultimate team-building exercise. I could barely hold myself back from asking her if this involved holding hands around a camp fire singing songs.
Youth baseball is so much more than teaching kids how to play baseball. It teaches them about life. Hard work, trying new things, teamwork, dedication, cooperation, respect, working for goals, being realistic about your abilities, how to work with others, how to respect and get along with authority figures.
Gee, maybe these are all things these kids will need when they get out of school and hit the real world. And they'd better pay attention because not too many of the 1500 young men drafted last week will make it to the show for any appreciable time.
If there's no motiviation to get better and do better, then who will get masters degrees, who will start new small businesses, who will work for a cancer cure?
Milquetoast: a very timid, unassertive, spineless person, esp. one who is easily dominated or intimidated
I'll do my best to make sure my kids and the kids on their baseball teams don't end up like this.
biggerpapi ...
And one of those life lessons they learn along the way, which you have hinted at here, is that sometimes you win, sometimes you lose, and sometimes you get rained out. Just like real life. Now ain't that a clever concept.
quote:Youth baseball is so much more than teaching kids how to play baseball. It teaches them about life. Hard work, trying new things, teamwork, dedication, cooperation, respect, working for goals, being realistic about your abilities, how to work with others, how to respect and get along with authority figures
And one of those life lessons they learn along the way, which you have hinted at here, is that sometimes you win, sometimes you lose, and sometimes you get rained out. Just like real life. Now ain't that a clever concept.
!!! someone understands me!!!!