Im getting confused from this site with all of, this
is ok but thats not ok??? I recently posted a photo of my son on here just to let people get an idea of whos who. Fairly new here and Im not sure if I should have for fear of being lumped in with the wrong group.
It did get us in touch with other parents who we had met at tournaments just for the fact they recognized him from the photo.
I guess the question could be more than why but where and when should you open your mouth.
Honestly, I dont say much at tournaments or H.S. games for the fear of turning people off. Sometimes Im afraid of giving the impression of not being very social. So I just stand there and smile and answer any questions I can with few words and hope most of there questions will be answered on the field.
I think most of us are guilty of bragging and making excuses to some degree, and the coaches that didn't treat our kids like the stars they are were idiots!
But we all see someone else when we hear this discussion, because we're realistic. We don't brag about our kids, we're just sharing facts!
But we all see someone else when we hear this discussion, because we're realistic. We don't brag about our kids, we're just sharing facts!
quote:We don't brag about our kids, we're just sharing facts! Big Grin
Bingo!!
Those type of parents need to just chill out and relax...sit down...and enjoy a cold one!
quote:Im getting confused from this site with all of, this
Yes mixed signals.
You can't let others dictate your posts. I loved the Pics and can't understand the harm. There will always be posters that don't agree.
I enjoy going out to visit the local high school and colleges and have even been to the local little league to talk to the parents and watch the players do their magic on the field.
I do enjoy sharing our experiences and successes! Every once in awhile you get the parent who just goes overboard with reality.
I do enjoy sharing our experiences and successes! Every once in awhile you get the parent who just goes overboard with reality.
quote:I have seen parents who ridicule their son's no matter how well they do. I would rather listen to a parent bragging any day than that.
I agree, 100%.
And as Homerun04 said:
quote:and watch the players do their magic on the field.
That is indeed the beauty of it all!
quote:Originally posted by blm:
So I just stand there and smile and answer any questions I can with few words...
And I can't thank you enough blm...you steered me in the right direction...it was really urgent! Thanks!
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They had them hidden out near the parking lot.
quote:Originally posted by blm:
Im getting confused from this site with all of, this
is ok but thats not ok??? I recently posted a photo of my son on here just to let people get an idea of whos who.
There is a section on this site that encourages you to add to the photo gallery.
If you post em here or there, thats great.
gotwood,
not sure what you getting at?
not sure what you getting at?
Cute Woody...
Blm, I believe that Woody is insinuating that he asked for directions to the restroom and you gave them to him.. Am I right Woody?
Blm, I believe that Woody is insinuating that he asked for directions to the restroom and you gave them to him.. Am I right Woody?
That is absolutely, incredibly, without question...correct gunnersmom.
I was just trying to create a lighthearted mood at a time that you may have needed it blm.
By the way...could you let the folks at Nevada John know that this one is out of paper? Thanks.
Keep posting, reading, and learning here on the HSBBW blm. You'll find it's an overall friendly place.
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We may be a bit behind the times in our welcoming efforts, but we try!
I was just trying to create a lighthearted mood at a time that you may have needed it blm.
By the way...could you let the folks at Nevada John know that this one is out of paper? Thanks.
Keep posting, reading, and learning here on the HSBBW blm. You'll find it's an overall friendly place.
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We may be a bit behind the times in our welcoming efforts, but we try!
There you go, thats all I was trying to say just a little bit can get you looked at the wrong way.
Well I've always looked at you the right way. I enjoy your input. 
TG, you refer to her as "his mother" so I assume it's not your wife?
1) If it is your wife, how about show her a little respect on a public post?
2) If it isn't your wife, how about do her a favor and let her enjoy her well-deserved freedom?
1) If it is your wife, how about show her a little respect on a public post?
2) If it isn't your wife, how about do her a favor and let her enjoy her well-deserved freedom?
So be it.
"As I hung up the phone it occurred to me, he'd grown up just like me. My boy was just like me!"
--Harry Chapin
"As I hung up the phone it occurred to me, he'd grown up just like me. My boy was just like me!"
--Harry Chapin
So be it, huh? You obviously intend to be judgemental and offensive by leaving it and making another post loaded with innuendo. Now you're editorializing on my parenting.quote:Originally posted by Bum:
So be it.
"As I hung up the phone it occurred to me, he'd grown up just like me. My bow was just like me!"
--Harry Chapin
I guess it's my turn to opine. Given your last two posts are completely out of the blue, unprovoked, unwarranted personal attacks I think you're a judgemental jerk. It's another shining example of how old timers feel empowered to dump on newer posters. Or maybe you're just an ugly stain on the reputation of the old timers.
I guess this board is like all the rest. Part of participation is fighting your way past the punks. Now that I understand I can deal with it.
TG, we are all stains upon this Earth. We are all guilty as charged.
I went to Have You Hugged the Earth Today? and used our HSBBW bulk purchase discount and got a real good deal on enough of these sticks to clean up our members who are scattered throughout the world (on both sides of that confounding line out there somewhere in the Pacific Ocean).
Everyone should be receiving one via e-mail...I hope that works...it seemed the most logical and efficient method to reach all of you with this stick.
If you haven't received one within two weeks, or if your e-mail smells nice but isn't working properly, please take that up with MN-Mom...operator's are standing by!
For those of you unfamiliar with this product, please note that it has a twist-off cap...not a pop-top.
For personal use only. DO NOT USE ON OTHERS! Particularly bad stains may require repeated efforts to achieve total stain removal. Use only as directed.
Everyone should be receiving one via e-mail...I hope that works...it seemed the most logical and efficient method to reach all of you with this stick.
If you haven't received one within two weeks, or if your e-mail smells nice but isn't working properly, please take that up with MN-Mom...operator's are standing by!
For those of you unfamiliar with this product, please note that it has a twist-off cap...not a pop-top.
For personal use only. DO NOT USE ON OTHERS! Particularly bad stains may require repeated efforts to achieve total stain removal. Use only as directed.
Actually, TG, I don't think this board is like "all the rest". The group has done all they can to discourage punkiness through the years. And hundreds of new members have joined and expressed opinions without feeling persecuted.
It is, thankfully, a very diverse group. Lots of differing experience, attitudes, and opinions. The board as a whole has also had a lot of experience.
With respect, you have come to this board (shall I say) stones out. Expressed a lot of opinions on a broad range of subjects in a short period of time. That's cool; it's how the board grows and sustains. I know I've found a number of your posts interesting and thought-provoking, and a few just provoking in both senses of the word .
But as soon as someone questions your motives, rises to the bait, makes comment on something they've inferred...you get purdy durn p*ickly and lash out at the board in general. Hey, unless you limit your postings to the Well Done, That's Great variety, it would be amazing to post with the frequency you do and not get the odd negative reaction. Do you like, and get along with, every single person you meet? (I certainly know I don't)
Many of your posts have involved the talent and success of your children as well as your prowess as an instructor/coach. Conversely, your posts in this thread can easily be construed as dismissive of the children's Mother. I noticed it, Bum said something. So it goes.
Just chill a little --- if you're going to try to make a big splash in this pool, don't be surprised if everybody doesn't applaud your dive.
It is, thankfully, a very diverse group. Lots of differing experience, attitudes, and opinions. The board as a whole has also had a lot of experience.
With respect, you have come to this board (shall I say
) stones out. Expressed a lot of opinions on a broad range of subjects in a short period of time. That's cool; it's how the board grows and sustains. I know I've found a number of your posts interesting and thought-provoking, and a few just provoking in both senses of the word .But as soon as someone questions your motives, rises to the bait, makes comment on something they've inferred...you get purdy durn p*ickly and lash out at the board in general. Hey, unless you limit your postings to the Well Done, That's Great variety, it would be amazing to post with the frequency you do and not get the odd negative reaction. Do you like, and get along with, every single person you meet? (I certainly know I don't)
Many of your posts have involved the talent and success of your children as well as your prowess as an instructor/coach. Conversely, your posts in this thread can easily be construed as dismissive of the children's Mother. I noticed it, Bum said something. So it goes.
Just chill a little --- if you're going to try to make a big splash in this pool, don't be surprised if everybody doesn't applaud your dive.
I'd applaud this dive: http://www.4xtimes.com/index.php?sky=graceful+Swan+Dive&movieid=5871
Orlando - very nice post.
I did not see anything provocative in TG's posts in this thread frankly but obviously some did. Couple of things:
For those that find something offensive in someone's post, try the pm route if possible to let them know. Give the person the benefit of the doubt before calling them out in public if possible.
For those that get called out, consider modifying the post and also use the pm route if possible to explain yourself.
Orlando is 100% right - if you post here enough, someone will take exception to something you have written. I was called out this past Friday (improperly in my mind) and it peaved me off. Rather than fire back, I chose to modify my post that caused the alleged controversy. I am still a little miffed about it but the matter went away quickly without further controversy.
I did not see anything provocative in TG's posts in this thread frankly but obviously some did. Couple of things:
For those that find something offensive in someone's post, try the pm route if possible to let them know. Give the person the benefit of the doubt before calling them out in public if possible.
For those that get called out, consider modifying the post and also use the pm route if possible to explain yourself.
Orlando is 100% right - if you post here enough, someone will take exception to something you have written. I was called out this past Friday (improperly in my mind) and it peaved me off. Rather than fire back, I chose to modify my post that caused the alleged controversy. I am still a little miffed about it but the matter went away quickly without further controversy.
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Would love to see Orlando's post...depersoanlized...expanded and posted somewhere as a guideline for all...
...explains...educates...gives history...
and encourages...
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Would love to see Orlando's post...depersoanlized...expanded and posted somewhere as a guideline for all...
...explains...educates...gives history...
and encourages...
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quote:by O44: Would love to see Orlando's post...depersoanlized...expanded and posted somewhere as a guideline for all...
DONE!
hsbbweb message board rules/manners
Interesting the way this thread a has evolved
I can remember when people did not have thin skin on here and we had some very spirited debates without people getting offended like they do now---I guess this is just indicative of how our world is changing or has changed---don't yell at anyone because you might scar their psyche, even an adult---OMG---well let me tell you that if my psyche ain't scarred by now it never will be-- there will always be give and take on forums where people have opinions and yes there are times that can get very "heavy' but that is good too
I would truly hate to see this site become "soft" in terms of debate---it will take away from the exchange of ideas and knowledge
I can remember when people did not have thin skin on here and we had some very spirited debates without people getting offended like they do now---I guess this is just indicative of how our world is changing or has changed---don't yell at anyone because you might scar their psyche, even an adult---OMG---well let me tell you that if my psyche ain't scarred by now it never will be-- there will always be give and take on forums where people have opinions and yes there are times that can get very "heavy' but that is good too
I would truly hate to see this site become "soft" in terms of debate---it will take away from the exchange of ideas and knowledge
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Bee...thanks bunches - read that every morning before my AM post...
...but not what I was thinking...
Not so much a set of basic rules....more of an editorial comment to "flesh out" out those rules...
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Bee...thanks bunches - read that every morning before my AM post...
...but not what I was thinking...
Not so much a set of basic rules....more of an editorial comment to "flesh out" out those rules...
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quote:Originally posted by ClevelandDad:
I am still a little miffed about it but the matter went away quickly without further controversy.
I hear ya' CD...some things bug me too! Fortunately they did go away quickly without too much controversy.
I don't think the times have really changed. In the old days, the hsbbweb was a much smaller community and I think that explains why things seemed different back then.
I also think there is a place for spirited debate and think this place would be boring if all we ever did was pat ourselves on the back for all the brilliant posts that are made. There was a recent thread on the military academy and pro baseball that met this criteria although some of the posts crossed the line into personal attack. In that thread, I think it was important for people to express their views even though it was highly controversial and provocative.
It does take some practice to learn how to write for a national and sometimes global audience these days. One suggestion is to write with a sense of humility rather than a sense that one has all the answers. Orlando started another fine thread that was on the metaphorical side about attending a party that is also applicable to these issues.
Welcome to the Party
I hope people appreciate the thin-skinned advice is something to be considered for all parties i.e., the one doing the calling out and for the one that is called out.
I also think there is a place for spirited debate and think this place would be boring if all we ever did was pat ourselves on the back for all the brilliant posts that are made. There was a recent thread on the military academy and pro baseball that met this criteria although some of the posts crossed the line into personal attack. In that thread, I think it was important for people to express their views even though it was highly controversial and provocative.
It does take some practice to learn how to write for a national and sometimes global audience these days. One suggestion is to write with a sense of humility rather than a sense that one has all the answers. Orlando started another fine thread that was on the metaphorical side about attending a party that is also applicable to these issues.
Welcome to the Party
I hope people appreciate the thin-skinned advice is something to be considered for all parties i.e., the one doing the calling out and for the one that is called out.
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And Why you LlllIiiiEeee to MmEee
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But you tell me that I'm on my own.
Oh why you make me oh so sad.
All I do is hang my head and moan.
Tell me WwwwHhhhYyyy you cry.
And Why you LlllIiiiEeee to MmEee
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And Why you LlllIiiiEeee to MmEee
Tell me WwwwwHhhhhYYyyy you Cry,
And Why you LLllIIiiEEee to Me.
Oh I gave you everything I have.
But you tell me that I'm on my own.
Oh why you make me oh so sad.
All I do is hang my head and moan.
Tell me WwwwHhhhYyyy you cry.
And Why you LlllIiiiEeee to MmEee
Tell me WwwwwHhhhhYYyyy you Cry,
And Why you LLllIIiiEEee to Me.
WHY
I'll provide a group response here rather than respond to each point.
My kids are my experienced point of reference. It doesn't mean they are better or worse than any other players. One thing I like about this board is the posters have more talented kids for the most part and understand what it is to have a talented athlete and a different perspective than most parents.
I don't frown on debate. Two things that make this board's world go 'round are debate and education. The thing I like about this board is in general people don't get personal in a negative way for the most part. But since I've experienced twice in a week with an insult on my son saying he sucked (in a post he wan't mentioned ...it was the thread on the anti-showcase travel coach ... the insult came from a poster who I hope didn't pay to showcase his son with the end result being he's playing at a girls college for a first time coach who previously coached womens's s****r). See I can dish it out too.
Now there's an insult on how I refer to my kid's mother (not tipping you off as part of my stubborness) and an insult on my parenting pulled out of the blue and not related to any post I've ever made post. I get it now. There are some hostile people on this board. That's OK. I'm learing who they are. I can dish it out real nasty too. My responses in these just mentioned instances are nothing compared to how I can respond. These were not responses questioning my motives. These were just plain judgemental insults for no reason.
For the record I did PM the poster how I felt about his first post. He responded with a second insulting post.
All I'm going to say about the mom, mother" thing, is if someone is offended by how I refer to her, get a freak'n life. This is a baseball board. Are you going to shove your religious value down my throat next? I refer to her in the manner I do because I'm referring to her as she interacts with the kids participating in sports, not with me. She's not my mother. Therefore it's "their mother", "mom", "mother" and will continue to be. If someone doesn't like it, shove it where the son doesn't shine. See, I can act like an *** too. It makes me uncomfortable to to it intentionally. But if it's what it takes on this board I can handle it. Of course this kind of exchange makes this board no different than any other.
I have no problem with terms like, I vehemently disagree with you." I have no problem with terms like, "Please explain your thoughts so I can think anything other than you're wrong." But I don't put up with personal insults without smacking back. I've been sucked into the hostilities on other boards, where the hostilities become as much of the show as baseball posts. I wanted to get away from that.
My kids are my experienced point of reference. It doesn't mean they are better or worse than any other players. One thing I like about this board is the posters have more talented kids for the most part and understand what it is to have a talented athlete and a different perspective than most parents.
I don't frown on debate. Two things that make this board's world go 'round are debate and education. The thing I like about this board is in general people don't get personal in a negative way for the most part. But since I've experienced twice in a week with an insult on my son saying he sucked (in a post he wan't mentioned ...it was the thread on the anti-showcase travel coach ... the insult came from a poster who I hope didn't pay to showcase his son with the end result being he's playing at a girls college for a first time coach who previously coached womens's s****r). See I can dish it out too.
Now there's an insult on how I refer to my kid's mother (not tipping you off as part of my stubborness) and an insult on my parenting pulled out of the blue and not related to any post I've ever made post. I get it now. There are some hostile people on this board. That's OK. I'm learing who they are. I can dish it out real nasty too. My responses in these just mentioned instances are nothing compared to how I can respond. These were not responses questioning my motives. These were just plain judgemental insults for no reason.
For the record I did PM the poster how I felt about his first post. He responded with a second insulting post.
All I'm going to say about the mom, mother" thing, is if someone is offended by how I refer to her, get a freak'n life. This is a baseball board. Are you going to shove your religious value down my throat next? I refer to her in the manner I do because I'm referring to her as she interacts with the kids participating in sports, not with me. She's not my mother. Therefore it's "their mother", "mom", "mother" and will continue to be. If someone doesn't like it, shove it where the son doesn't shine. See, I can act like an *** too. It makes me uncomfortable to to it intentionally. But if it's what it takes on this board I can handle it. Of course this kind of exchange makes this board no different than any other.
I have no problem with terms like, I vehemently disagree with you." I have no problem with terms like, "Please explain your thoughts so I can think anything other than you're wrong." But I don't put up with personal insults without smacking back. I've been sucked into the hostilities on other boards, where the hostilities become as much of the show as baseball posts. I wanted to get away from that.
quote:Originally posted by TRhit:
Interesting the way this thread a has evolved
I can remember when people did not have thin skin on here and we had some very spirited debates without people getting offended like they do now
Yeah TR...I remember those days fondly!
"Has anyone seen my skin conditioner?"
Gotwood
Those were fun times!!!
Those were fun times!!!
quote:Originally posted by TG:
I'll provide a group response here rather than respond to each point.
My kids are my experienced point of reference. It doesn't mean they are better or worse than any other players. One thing I like about this board is the posters have more talented kids for the most part and understand what it is to have a talented athlete and a different perspective than most parents.
I don't frown on debate. Two things that make this board's world go 'round are debate and education. The thing I like about this board is in general people don't get personal in a negative way for the most part. But since I've experienced twice in a week with an insult on my son saying he sucked (in a post he wan't mentioned ...it was the thread on the anti-showcase travel coach ... the insult came from a poster who I hope didn't pay to showcase his son with the end result being he's playing at a girls college for a first time coach who previously coached womens's s****r). See I can dish it out too.
Now there's an insult on how I refer to my kid's mother (not tipping you off as part of my stubborness) and an insult on my parenting pulled out of the blue and not related to any post I've ever made post. I get it now. There are some hostile people on this board. That's OK. I'm learing who they are. I can dish it out real nasty too. My responses in these just mentioned instances are nothing compared to how I can respond. These were not responses questioning my motives. These were just plain judgemental insults for no reason.
For the record I did PM the poster how I felt about his first post. He responded with a second insulting post.
All I'm going to say about the mom, mother" thing, is if someone is offended by how I refer to her, get a freak'n life. This is a baseball board. Are you going to shove your religious value down my throat next? I refer to her in the manner I do because I'm referring to her as she interacts with the kids participating in sports, not with me. She's not my mother. Therefore it's "their mother", "mom", "mother" and will continue to be. If someone doesn't like it, shove it where the son doesn't shine. See, I can act like an *** too. It makes me uncomfortable to to it intentionally. But if it's what it takes on this board I can handle it. Of course this kind of exchange makes this board no different than any other.
I have no problem with terms like, I vehemently disagree with you." I have no problem with terms like, "Please explain your thoughts so I can think anything other than you're wrong." But I don't put up with personal insults without smacking back. I've been sucked into the hostilities on other boards, where the hostilities become as much of the show as baseball posts. I wanted to get away from that.
Why? I guess this is a perfect example of how when some people chose to voice their opinion or their view and they may not understand how others might perceive their comments in a negative way.
quote:Originally posted by Homerun04:
Why? I guess this is a perfect example of how when some people chose to voice their opinion or their view and they may not understand how others might perceive their comments in a negative way.
Let's be clearer here. These are the three posts I took offense to.
1) I posted the anti-showcase opinion of a known travel program. I stated this is for discussion and not my opinion. A poster responsed "You're kid must have sucked."
2) The "mom" reference above.
3) When I told the poster I found the comment offensive and insulting in it's wording ....
"TG, you refer to her as "his mother" so I assume it's not your wife?
2) If it isn't your wife, how about do her a favor and let her enjoy her well-deserved freedom?...
he responded in a manner I don't see how anyone can see as another attempt to be insulting.
""As I hung up the phone it occurred to me, he'd grown up just like me. My boy was just like me!"
I don't need a stranger passing judgement on my parenting out of the blue. Maybe I should just assume and post every time I disagree with a poster they are a bad parent. For the record, when I've discussed kids in general with parents, I've never heard anything about my kids but, "They are so polite they are welcome in our house anytime." Kids aren't perfect, but mine do a good job in front of adults. That's from parenting.
TG - this refers only to my post and nothing else...
You did certainly channel my former spouse in your original post. I could hear his voice! But that's not your fault, it's his, and mine. My bad.
At the same time, when you bring your spouse into the mix on a public forum, especially in such a disdainful way (at least a few of us perceived it that way), I don't think you can expect to not get called on it. JMO.
You did certainly channel my former spouse in your original post. I could hear his voice! But that's not your fault, it's his, and mine. My bad.
At the same time, when you bring your spouse into the mix on a public forum, especially in such a disdainful way (at least a few of us perceived it that way), I don't think you can expect to not get called on it. JMO.
So much for "ADIOS" !!!!
This site is darn addictive !!!!
This site is darn addictive !!!!
Hey TG...hang around. You've livened things up and that's good.
You've got strong opinions and there certainly is nothing wrong with that.
You've obviously been through the battles elsewhere on the internet. I think we are a bit different here. There's a lot to learn here on the HSBBW...and it's seldom boring!
Please accept a welcoming hand...from my uncle Al Fotolia.
You've got strong opinions and there certainly is nothing wrong with that.
You've obviously been through the battles elsewhere on the internet. I think we are a bit different here. There's a lot to learn here on the HSBBW...and it's seldom boring!
Please accept a welcoming hand...from my uncle Al Fotolia.
quote:Originally posted by TRhit:
This site is darn addictive !!!!
Click on the center icon below twelve times...click your heels together twelve times...and hope it works!
TG
I couldn't figure out what all of the fuss was about until I read your first post.
If I said this to my wife at a ballgame, I would have to order a 1 year subsbription to the playboy channel to keep myself entertained.
This post really rough. How can you call out a mother for encouraging her son? Futhurmore, do you think it's ok for a KID to lash out at his biggest fan??
I'm not for ya or against ya, I doubt this was the message that you wanted to send, but it was percieved that way. Just be a little more careful, thats all.
I couldn't figure out what all of the fuss was about until I read your first post.
quote:Even my kid's mother can be an apologist. She blamed his having a bad inning in the field on getting banged up in goal (s****r) the night before. I stared at her and said, "Why don't you get a megaphone and make sure everyone knows. Then we can take a poll to see if anyone cares. The bottom line is produce or go home."
If I said this to my wife at a ballgame, I would have to order a 1 year subsbription to the playboy channel to keep myself entertained.
quote:It drives JR nuts when he gets fooled, hits a high fly the other way and mom is yelling good hit as he's grumbling to himself for getting fooled at the plate. One time he snapped at her, "That's not a good hit. This isn't LL."
This post really rough. How can you call out a mother for encouraging her son? Futhurmore, do you think it's ok for a KID to lash out at his biggest fan??
I'm not for ya or against ya, I doubt this was the message that you wanted to send, but it was percieved that way. Just be a little more careful, thats all.
It was the overreaction I always tell my kids never to have.quote:Originally posted by TRhit:
So much for "ADIOS" !!!!
This site is darn addictive !!!!