Wood Bat vs. Alloy Bat

the 271 model has a medium barrel, thin handle, no taper to the knob. No taper causes "premature rollover" and reduces bat speed.

Bob

Not to start an argument but the c271 has a significant taper at the knob.  Perhaps that is a later adaptation by Louisville Slugger from the original 271 turning.  If the Victus bat is truly the same as the Louisville c271, I don't think lack of taper at the knob is the issue.

@Consultant posted:

the 271 model has a medium barrel, thin handle, no taper to the knob. No taper causes "premature rollover" and reduces bat speed.

Bob

Thanks for not closing with "But that's OK, it happens to a lot of guys."  :-)

@22and25 posted:

Not to start an argument but the c271 has a significant taper at the knob.  Perhaps that is a later adaptation by Louisville Slugger from the original 271 turning.  If the Victus bat is truly the same as the Louisville c271, I don't think lack of taper at the knob is the issue.

yup. Very little difference, if any, between the LS C271 and the Victus V271.

Do you know for a fact that the wood bat is 30oz?  Did you weigh it with a very accurate kitchen scale to the 1/8 of an oz?  I did that with all my son's bats, and very few were exactly 30 oz.  The weights varied from 27 1/2 oz to 32 oz for the same maple 33" bat you describe.  He swung a 33" bat for 3 years in high school and the sample size was probably 2 dozen bats, maybe more.

@Smitty28 posted:

Do you know for a fact that the wood bat is 30oz?  Did you weigh it with a very accurate kitchen scale to the 1/8 of an oz?  I did that with all my son's bats, and very few were exactly 30 oz.  The weights varied from 27 1/2 oz to 32 oz for the same maple 33" bat you describe.  He swung a 33" bat for 3 years in high school and the sample size was probably 2 dozen bats, maybe more.

Nope. Never weighed it. I just assumed it is 30 ounces. 

is it a mental thing?  how experienced is he hitting with wood>  i know a lot of guys, when they first start swinging wood, have the "do not get jammed" swing thought that creates a lot of rollover hits (and rings their hands anyway, lol)

@mattys posted:

is it a mental thing?  how experienced is he hitting with wood>  i know a lot of guys, when they first start swinging wood, have the "do not get jammed" swing thought that creates a lot of rollover hits (and rings their hands anyway, lol)

I doubt that it is mental. He uses wood almost all the time in BP. He likes it better because it gives better feedback. And, he's been playing wood tournaments for a few years now.

@Francis7 posted:

Nope. Never weighed it. I just assumed it is 30 ounces. 

You should never assume a bat is the listed weight. I don't believe I've ever weighted one that was.

Moisture can add weight. do you live in a humid area, does your son choke the bat?

Do other players use the same bat? Is the bat used for "knocking" dirt off the spikes.

Do you "bone" the bat with a coke bottle? Do you see "fatigue" marks on the metal bat.

Have you tried the "birch" bat.

Bob

@Consultant posted:

Moisture can add weight. do you live in a humid area, does your son choke the bat?

Do other players use the same bat? Is the bat used for "knocking" dirt off the spikes.

Do you "bone" the bat with a coke bottle? Do you see "fatigue" marks on the metal bat.

Have you tried the "birch" bat.

Bob

Not humid and he's the only one using. No boning, etc. He's had yellow birch before and liked it. Think it's too heavy with maple forcing him to over compensate and be early?

Watch Rizzo [Cubs] and "choke" bat and wait, wait & wait on the pitch.

does you son before the game track pitches in the bullpen?

can he see the "red" seams on the pitched ball?

Bob

Ok, we have a postage scale. Here are the results. (Boy do we miss live sports—too much time on our hands!). All are 33 inches. All have a lizard skin grip. Weights in ounces. I didn’t know we had so many!

Batworx AP5 - Birch: 30.8

Batworx AP5 - Ash: 29.0

Marucci AP5 - Maple: 31.1

Warstic AP5 - Birch: 30.7

Warstic 271 Birch: 29.2

Easton S1 Composite (2016?)  31.7

Easton ADV Composite (2020): 31.2

Louisville Meta (2019–Red One): 31.0

2021 likes the AP5 (Birch) and ADV (Composite) the best. 

I had to break down what the bats are used for. Wood: Batworx are game bats. Other AP5s are cage bats. The 271 is not used. Composite: ADV is High School game bat. Meta was last year’s game bat and serves as backup for High School. S1 is used on yellow dimple balls at our community batting facility.

We collect equipment for our local police baseball equipment drive. Those bats that he doesn’t break will get a second lease on life there!

LA - any adjustments for amounts of pinetar :-)

Hah! I’m sure we invited that. 2021 just wants me to leave his equipment alone