Would You Have Done This as Opposing Coach?

PG,

  It would become a double forfeit.  Something like that has actually happened and both teams were kicked out of the playoffs.

I'm pretty sure I wouldn't even be tempted to do what this coach did. But it got me wondering, what would it take? Is there a rule I would exploit in a situation like that?   What if it was bottom 7, 2 outs, 2 on, and a kid on the opposition hits a walk-off bomb to win the game. Catcher on my team says look at the bat - it's one of those banned Marriuccis.  Would I tell him to appeal the play to the ump?   Damn straight.

What about this - you've just lost your playoff game. After the kids shake hands, one of your players says, "hey coach, I just recognized their closer, #7. He played for my brother's showcase team last weekend."  By CIF rules, that player is ineligible and the game should result in a forfeit.  Do you appeal?  What if the kid didn't get have any impact on the game?

Ha Ha what if the kid his a 3 run bomb to tie the game in the bottom of the 7th and misses home plate.  I understand what everyone is talking about and I do agree to a certain extent.  Where though do you draw the line on what you appeal and what you don't appeal?

Exactly.

We actually had this happen my senior year. And yes, we appealed it. Game ended up going 14 innings before darkness forced the game to be called. It ended up as a tie as it was a regular season game..

You play the game because incidents like this have to be submitted to state officials.  There is a huge difference between a coach violating rules and driving faster than the speed limit.  However, in my community you will get a ticket for 36 in a 35.  We have signs posted that we are a zero tolerance community.  Even my nephew told me that if I get a ticket, there is not way to get out of it. 

So, as a coach, I think that the foreign substance rule is dumb.  I tell my pitcher to go ahead and doctor the ball.  Why should I have to follow the rules I think are dumb.  Again, where is the line?  This rule has been around for a long time.  It was violated. It does not matter whether the game was played or not.  One coach knew the rules and decided to be above them.  His team is paying the price for that.  Is cheating, cheating or is cheating a degree thing to be determined by each coaching staff?

IEBSBL,

You won't believe this but we lost our 3rd round CIF game down in your neck of the woods last year (against O.C.) because our baserunner didn't touch home plate when he easily walked home on an XBH to the wall.  Would have been the winning run with insurance on 3rd with no out.  Instead, he was called out on appeal, I think next guy K'd and next guy lined out.  Ended up losing 2-1 in nine innings.  Would have had a home game in semi's to get to final.

Might have been PU's call.

Agree.  These are stupid rules made by stupid adults to ruin a kids game.  The enforcement is even worse.  A forfeit, Really?  Why punish the kids for something the coach told them to do.  If you have a stupid rule like this, then the punishment should be to suspend the coach for the next game. 

A home run call to center when the field umpire is running towards center is the HPU call? Please! The guy was blind as a bat. I don't know why he was doing a varsity game. He was terrible several times the previous year doing JV games. 

A significant amount (if not majority) of fly balls are PU's. I was suggesting a possible explanation.

First of all the Peninsula coach is the bad guy in this situation!! if you don't like the rule the CIF is the one to blame. Kurt schwengel is the only one blameless! Peninsula had already been taking batting practice in the cage prior to the wiffle

ball incident. The santa monica coaches unfortunately didn't get that on tape,which is required by the CIF,since the other team could always deny it. After the cage practice they started the wiffle ball practice,much to the surprise of the santa monica coaching staff.! It was only then that cameras started to roll and the protest was lodged before the game!!! By CIF rules protest's cannot be taken back once submitted…... by anyone!!! Apparently the coaching staff at peninsula didn't know that rule either as evidenced by the myriad of obnoxious and profanity laced phone calls left on Kurt Schwengel's wife's cell phone after the game by the classy coaching staff of Peninsula. All of which were saved for future use.If you don't think it's advantageous for one team to get batting practice before a game while the other team sets in traffic on a bus for over an hour,then your not thinking clearly! What's wrong with society today? Call me old fashion,but blaming the victim is clearly the immoral view,for Keith Oberman to use the power of ESPN and Disney to discredit coach schwengel is not only misguided but dose not represent the facts and borders on slander!

including pitching machines and overhand throwing).THE ONLY ACCEPTABLE BATTING WARMUP WILL BE SIDE SOFT TOSS, BATTING TEE WORK OR PEPPER. ...

so do you have to play pepper throwing underhand?  

This reinforces my belief that athletics are run by a bunch of pontificating morons.