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RON WOLFORTH coming to Virginia.

INVINCIBLE VELOCITY ·
Nationally acclaimed pitching instructor and researcher Ron Wolforth will bring his Elite Pitcher's Boot Camp to Virginia on September 27-29, 2013. The three day camp is part of  D1Draftable Baseball's Masterminds Instructional Series presented...
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The Armory's "Rocket Launchers Road Show" August 10th & 11th at CBC

ThrowHarderFaster ·
Throw Harder Faster is a velocity development academy inside of Carolina Baseball Center and we are excited to bring you The Armory's "Rocket Launchers Road Show" August 10th & 11th at CBC. The Armory has developed 37 pitchers that have eclipsed the 90 mph barrier since its owner, Randy Sullivan, established academy in February 2011. Incredibly, six of these 90 mph pitchers just finished their freshman year of high school, class of 2016. As a licensed physical therapist and owner of...
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Armory's "Rocket Launchers Road Show" Aug 10-11th at CBC

ThrowHarderFaster ·
Throw Harder Faster is a velocity development academy inside of Carolina Baseball Center and we are excited to bring you The Armory's "Rocket Launchers Road Show" August 10th & 11th at CBC. The Armory has developed 37 pitchers that have eclipsed the 90 mph barrier since its owner, Randy Sullivan, established academy in February 2011. Incredibly, six of these 90 mph pitchers just finished their freshman year of high school, class of 2016. As a licensed physical therapist and owner of...
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2015 LHP D2/D3 Options

AcademicsFirst ·
My son is a current LHP sophomore and plays on his HS JV team.  The HS is a Div 1 4a school that was in the CIF semi finals last year and plays in a very competitive league and schedules always schedules top CA teams ( Orange Lutheran, Harvard...
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Exit Velocity for 340 feet off the tee?

TheJR30 ·
Hit at a field off the tee recently were the fence was 320 dead center. Consistenly hit the fence with one of my hits clearing the fence around 20 feet. What would be the exit velocity of a batted ball traveling 340 feet from a stationary position? Also if its possible what would be the bat speed of a swing of this type? Launch Angle? Thanks for your time and info if you respond, JR
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Exit velocity

Lpigs25 ·
I was wondering if there is any formula or if there is anyone that can tell me the exit velocity of a ball that goes 350 feet? Thanks
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Velocity, God given? Or can it be drastically improved?

Wesleythecacther ·
What would be an average catcher velocity for high school varsity catchers? More specifically in the class of 2017? What would be an ideal catching velocity? Attached is a video of me throwing, any advice? Also, here is a link that I found that has workouts that will help pitchers throw harder: http://www.stack.com/a/how-to-throw-harder Will those workouts in the link above work for position players?
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Arm Conditioning/ Velocity Program

Wesleythecacther ·
Found this free weighted baseball velocity program. What do you guys think? I will be giving it a try. It says to use 4 ounce and 6 ounce baseballs. How much of a velocity increase should be expected? http://media.hometeamsonline.com/photos/softball/MUSTANGS32/Throwing_Workouts.pdf
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Arm Conditioning/ Velocity Program

Wesleythecacther ·
Found this free weighted baseball velocity program. What do you guys think? I will be giving it a try. It says to use 4 ounce and 6 ounce baseballs. How much of a velocity increase should be expected? Also have done the exercises with dumbbells that are included and my arm feels great. http://media.hometeamsonline.com/photos/softball/MUSTANGS32/Throwing_Workouts.pdf
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Re: Minimum Velocity to pitch in college

57special ·
Keep in mind that a pitcher who throws 90, even once, has that follow him around for life. Even more so, a pitcher who throws 90 for a period of time, say a fall PG season. What I am seeing at the senior HS level is pitchers whose Velo has dropped off. Saw one LHP ( lower D1) who has a nasty curve and hit 85-86 consistently last fall is now low 80's and getting hit. Another RHP who hit 88 ( lower D1) as a 16 yo is now low 80's at 18 yo. Another who threw low 90's, sat high 80's(P5) is now...
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MrBumstead ·
30 mph That's the approximate minimum velo required for the ball to travel 60'-6" at a 45 degree launch angle. Anything less and the ball cannot possibly cross the plate. (Please excuse the pathetic engineering humor. )
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smokeminside ·
I coulda hit 30.
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Backstop22 ·
We saw a few 75-77's at a lower level academic D3 in the MW, but for a RH pitcher, I would say there are few who peak at 79 or lower who ever get the chance to pitch in college baseball from what we saw. Even at the Academic tryouts for the AZ Senior Classic, if a kid was not at least 85 in the morning tryouts, he was not invited to the Academic game. Of course for lefties, there is more of opportunity for "crafty lefties" but there does not seem to be any equivalent for RHPs unless they are...
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cabbagedad ·
This subject has been hammered countless times here... some of the data from PG and others are great. But agree with Pia Ump for short, quick answer... "80's" gets you somewhere when it's the kind that you know it when you see it. There are always stories about guys in 70's and they are true. But here is a twist on those guys that doesn't often get discussed. I think that most of those guys were not recruited as P's. They did something else as a position player and due to a variety of...
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57special ·
Just looked in on a Northwestern v Notre Dame game. Two guys came in from the bullpen for NWU. One's fastball sat 77-79(high of 80), and another 79-81(high 83). Their breaking pitches looked OK, but they couldn't throw consistent strikes with them. I bet somewhere there is a record of them throwing 87 mph.
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Nonamedad ·
Son is a pitcher, let's just say we have been very encouraged watching SEC baseball on Saturday on ESPN. Been seeing a lot of figures that look like snowmen in the little velocity box on TV. I hate seeing those pesky critters on my golf scorecard, but for a HS junior who has been told his whole life that you need to be 90+ to play D1its a nice surprise for my kid.
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2019OF ·
@Nonamedad Is right on point. All you hear is 90 90 90, but the games say 87 87 87. Now can those guys hit it once off a turf mound indoors? Probably, but they aren't all throwing that in game.
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StrainedOblique ·
Velo numbers are huge at the recruiting level but don't mean a whole lot in a NCAA D1 game . HC's throw guys that get outs . Period. It doesn't matter if it's crossing the plate at 83 mph . But HS parents of low velo pitchers be forewarned , That doesn't mean that they recruit guys that ' get outs' at the HS level. 85 on the left side / 88 on the right are the magic numbers for Mid-Upper Division 1 baseball.
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#1 Assistant Coach ·
HS underdog team making deep run in state playoffs recently vs a nationally ranked team. Underdog team, starting RHP at 5-8, 140, and sitting 73-75 was untouched through 3.1 innings. With score tied at 0-0 after 3 1/3, and a runner on 2nd due to Error, coaches assumed game would be decided by 1 or 2 runs, so they bring in their Big Gun who sits 88-90, tops at 92, to shut it down. Got shelled. Balls flying all over the field. Place went from cow pasture to construction site in an instant.
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3and2Fastball ·
Within 5 years I predict that spin rate will have a much bigger influence on who gets recruited where, but for now 80's is not likely enough to get you recruited to an SEC school to pitch. Maybe 88/89. Maybe...
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Rob T ·
There's a kid that was a Jr RHP on my son's team last season. He pitched a total of 1 inning the entire season. Didn't get on the mound at all this season. He couldn't hit 80 if he was throwing downhill off the Empire State Building. He's "signed" with a D3 to play next year. Of course: It's an out of state academic D3. They have 60 guys on the "roster" He's paying about $65,000 a year to go there. But hey, A guy throwing in the 70's can pitch in college.
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3and2Fastball ·
Over the years I've seen plenty of pitchers throwing in the mid-70's in D3. They might have hit 80 something once or twice throwing in a Showcase. But in games they are cruising in the 70's. They aren't pitching, generally, for a powerhouse D3 that regularly attends the NCAA Regionals, but in lower level D3's? Yes. The key, as with anything in life really, is getting opportunities and then taking advantage of those opportunities when you get them. A recruit throwing in the 70's is going to...
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2022NYC ·
+1, I will be borrowing this line
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JMMS ·
I'm seeing a lot of shifting in the college game now. I feel that locating your pitches is the most important thing to work on for young pitcher. Is it really impressive to watch a kid throw 93+ only look a the box score and see 45+ pitches after first 2 innings.
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old_school ·
My sons D3 played a very competitive schedule, they were ranked in the top 20 SOS according to the whatever criteria the NCAA uses. I am sure it is a pretty comprehensive comparison of the higher D3 level. I think 14 of our 40 games season were vs teams playing in the Regional somewhere. We see mostly low 80's, some higher, occasionally lower usually lefty junk ballers, a very few in the high 80's.
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3and2Fastball ·
The thing is, there are more & more high school kids every year who can do both (throw 93 and locate). I'm a huge fan of Greg Maddux. The pitchers who can really move the ball are fun to watch. The thing is, the lower velocity pitcher has way less margin for error. If he gets in a game where his secondary pitches aren't working, and his fastball ain't moving, he is gonna get flat out hammered. While it is true that great hitters can sit on any velocity and crush it, the higher velocity...
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Nonamedad ·
I invite you to watch this Saturday on ESPN college baseball (it's exclusively SEC where I am) to check velocity numbers. 90+ is the exception not the rule and that's mostly closers. Many times a velocity won't be shown, my conspiracy mind tells me it's because the number is too low. You may need 88-90 to get recruited, but anyone with eyes and a TV can see you don't need those numbers to pitch in the SEC, which is hardly mid level D1. Watch the CWS, ESPN now shows many regional games, you...
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d-mac ·
I agree with you and I watch a lot of college baseball, specifically the SEC. As an Arkansas fan, our Friday night guy is 92-95, Saturday is a LHP that is mostly 88-90, and Sunday is a guy that has had arm issues who will be anywhere from 89-96. The closer is 94-96 and the top two relievers are 88-89 and 90-95. The only teams with arms like that as far as I know are Florida and Oregon State which are basically the top 3 teams in the country. Most teams have a dude on Friday night and a few...
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Nonamedad ·
Went to the Big 12 tournament a few years back, WVA vs Baylor, WVA lefty never hit 80 and the Baylor righty never hit 88. Stadium gun in OKC bricktown.
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2019Dad ·
I agree that high velo is helpful, and I agree that college coaches feel confident . . . but if you look at the percentage of recruits who wash out, don't see the field, transfer, etc., I'd argue that that confidence is misplaced (I know you said "great college coaches" but I suspect that the not-so-great coaches have the same confidence). Very often a college coach will have seen a recruit play just a few times, perhaps a half-dozen. Their ability to assess and project is not nearly as good...
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3and2Fastball ·
For every 90's velocity kid who ends up being a bust, there's 3 more waiting in line to take his spot (or so it seems at least!)
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2019Dad ·
Right on cue, Baseball America article today on this topic: www.baseballamerica.com/storie...ort-of-expectations/ "I think for a long time, in general, we as an industry have been very bad at how we evaluate high school pitching,” an American League crosschecker said. "We keep doing the same thing over and over again. These flamethrower guys get pushed up toward the top. If the guy is not throwing 100 (mph) he’s not as high on lists. But look at the guys who keep actually showing up in the...
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baseballhs ·
So if there are scouts in the stands and you are throwing hard but just missing, do you let up on speed a little bit to get more accuracy, or keep throwing hard? This has been a discussion in our house about the summer.
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Rob T ·
Is the scout referring to Aaron Sanchez who goes 93-95 with his two seamer , and Taijuan Walker who averages 94 on his fastball and a 89-90 splitter? (Not to mention Walker's arm blowing up recently) Those guys were both first round draft picks out of high school who were 93+ in their senior years. It's not like they were mid 80's guys who grew into 90's guys.
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Rob T ·
For the guys who are successful, the two are not mutually exclusive.
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baseballhs ·
In a perfect world you have both everyday.
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rynoattack ·
There are so many variables. Is the stadium gun accurate? Do these guns need periodic calibration to make sure they are accurate? As someone mentioned earlier, most guys throw mid to high 80's. Son's team has a Friday guy that was hitting 95-96 in the 7th inning, but they have an All American Closer who lives 80-82. When the closer is on, he is virtually unhittable. When his control is off, he gets hammered. From what I've seen, the 95-96 guy on son's team can use his velo to get an...
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baseballhs ·
I should clarify. Not scouts, coaches. I know they want both, but back to the question in this thread...would they rather fix barely missing the zone but throwing hard, or slow it down (which puts you back in the pack) and hitting all your spots?
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Goosegg ·
I think college coaches want outs. They also want velo, but college coaches arent generally playing the long game; they need immediate results (because they only get 11.7 chances; pro ball has over 70 new guys per team every year). Proball plays the long game. Most college PCs - especially guys whose careers ended in college - dont generally know how to develop pitchers. And college coaches generally are militantly anti-walk. (I still remember my son telling me his pro PC complemented him...
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Nonamedad ·
LSU vs Auburn (they are pretty good btw) both Auburn guys were 91/92, I didn't see the LSU starter but the second LSU guy hit 90, but had a long inning, his next inning was 87/88, third guy was a lefty FB topped out at 83, nest guy was 88/89. LSU had given up and the pitchers were rarely used kids, 13 and 14 appearances, but still.
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CTbballDad ·
My 2019 RHP by my guess is sitting 83-85 (IMO based on last summer and his improvement) . He's had a very nice year and recently a couple of mid-level D1 were out to see him with their radar guns. Cool to see, but no feedback or reaching out afterwards, even though he gave up no runs during his outing. It's very discouraging that we're hearing crickets, even though I've always known he's had to make another jump in velo to be considered mid-D1. I think it's now confirmed for me. Going to a...
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adbono ·
You are delusional if you think you will be recruited (and offered a scholarship) by an SEC school unless you hit 88 - 90 as a junior in HS - or before. Exception would be lefty that has good secondary stuff. SEC schools are already done with 2019 recruiting and are looking at 2020 players now. Here is a real life example : Texas A&M has 16 active pitchers on the current roster. Half of them sit over 90. The other half sit 87 - 89. Almost all can throw 90 if they need too. Only exception...
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Rob T ·
Your odds of getting drafted are a lot better than making an SEC roster if you go by the numbers.
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baseballhs ·
I don’t see this. I’ve seen a lot of guys throwing that might hit 90-91 playing on sec teams.
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Backpick25 ·
My 2018 son, RHP, was 88-90 consistently his Sophomore year. Exactly ZERO schools were interested until he topped 93 the following spring. One of his LHP team mates was 84-87 his Sophomore spring and still to this day has not touched 88 was heavily recruited by SEC schools. What's it mean? There are a lot of RHP's, so you gotta find ways to stand out and seek your fit. LHP's get taken a bit earlier. Fast forward, son had a terrific HS pitching career on/in a mediocre program. It didn't cost...
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3and2Fastball ·
Just because you see SEC pitchers getting gunned in games throwing 85-86 doesn't mean that is the hardest they can throw. If you max out at 85-86, does that mean you can consistently cruise at your max velocity for multiple innings while moving the ball and throwing strikes? Good luck convincing SEC coaches of that.
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Rob T ·
The numbers I speak of are the 1200 that get drafted vs. the maybe 120 that make an SEC roster. In other words, if you are good enough to play for the SEC there is a real good chance you have at least had conversations with a scout to determine draft-ability.
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adbono ·
By “rarely” you mean that he does touch 90. Don’t get me wrong, I think that there is too much emphasis on velocity and not enough on getting hitters out. But high velo is what gets you in the door. And as someone else so accurately said earlier in this thread “for the guys that are successful the 2 (velo & outs) are not mutually exclusive.”
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adbono ·
100% correct
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2019Dad ·
For recruiting purposes, I think there is a distinction between a number that a kid has touched in a game, and a number that is "verified." (The college coach has seen it with his own eyes, or PG or PBR or another independent party has recorded and published it). The former isn't terribly important for recruiting.
 
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