Tagged With "Velocity"

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2015 LHP D2/D3 Options

AcademicsFirst ·
My son is a current LHP sophomore and plays on his HS JV team.  The HS is a Div 1 4a school that was in the CIF semi finals last year and plays in a very competitive league and schedules always schedules top CA teams ( Orange Lutheran, Harvard...
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Armory's "Rocket Launchers Road Show" Aug 10-11th at CBC

ThrowHarderFaster ·
Throw Harder Faster is a velocity development academy inside of Carolina Baseball Center and we are excited to bring you The Armory's "Rocket Launchers Road Show" August 10th & 11th at CBC. The Armory has developed 37 pitchers that have eclipsed the 90 mph barrier since its owner, Randy Sullivan, established academy in February 2011. Incredibly, six of these 90 mph pitchers just finished their freshman year of high school, class of 2016. As a licensed physical therapist and owner of...
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RON WOLFORTH coming to Virginia.

INVINCIBLE VELOCITY ·
Nationally acclaimed pitching instructor and researcher Ron Wolforth will bring his Elite Pitcher's Boot Camp to Virginia on September 27-29, 2013. The three day camp is part of  D1Draftable Baseball's Masterminds Instructional Series presented...
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The Armory's "Rocket Launchers Road Show" August 10th & 11th at CBC

ThrowHarderFaster ·
Throw Harder Faster is a velocity development academy inside of Carolina Baseball Center and we are excited to bring you The Armory's "Rocket Launchers Road Show" August 10th & 11th at CBC. The Armory has developed 37 pitchers that have eclipsed the 90 mph barrier since its owner, Randy Sullivan, established academy in February 2011. Incredibly, six of these 90 mph pitchers just finished their freshman year of high school, class of 2016. As a licensed physical therapist and owner of...
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leftyshortstop ·
I want to be completely honest with the poster about the number and odds for the "crafty lefty" pitcher in top academic baseball. The very high academic school my son plays for has only one. That player only does late inning mop up work and gets hit very hard. For that matter, we have a 6'3" lefty who throws north of 85 who is a weekend starter and gets hit very hard if his breaking stuff isn't on. So here are the odds at our school. The coaching staff recruits nationally for only 6 "tips"...
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AcademicsFirst ·
Thanks craftyshortstop.....great info from someone who is currently watching heir son play D3 baseball. He still has two more years left, so we'll see where his velo ends up but I'm assuming if he get into the low 80s, he may get some looks being a lefty and with his grades. if not...im sure he'll go to a good University, join a fraternity and have just as good a time. ....remembering that most of these HS and college players will never make a living playing baseball. Good luck to your so...
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fenwaysouth ·
In the context of most D3 academic schools.......If your screen name reflects his desires, his future academics and baseball team will most likely be determined by continued strong GPA and future SAT/ACT scores. Top academic schools recruit their baseball players through academics . Occidental and Hopkins are examples, but there are more such as the NESCAC conference. So, he'll want to be one of the best baseball players to get the coaches "tip", and have the best grades to get the...
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MidAtlanticDad ·
Check the on-line rosters of the teams that you mentioned (Oxy, UCSD, CSM, etc). Height and weigh don’t tell the whole story, but it should give you an idea of what’s typical. Of course, focus on the LHPs. You might also find profiles for some of those kids on the Perfect Game site, and that will list their pitching velocity. Also, use the Perfect Game site to see the recent classes who committed to schools that he is interested in. The “College Commitments” list will link you to player...
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J H ·
Not to sound blunt or rude, but I'd suggest taking a step back and waiting until he plays varsity baseball before looking at college baseball. Lots can happen in that timeframe.
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AcademicsFirst ·
Thanks guys...as always, great advice. Speaking to a local ex scout who runs a Connie Mack and scout team here in Socal, said that there is college baseball out there for everyone if they are realistic, so I've always tried to keep things in perspective. JH...you're not gonna hurt my feelings. Like I've said, I've never told my son or thought he would ever make $ playing baseball. He's always fought through not passing the eye test, but he's still growing and has gotten where be has cause he...
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J H ·
AcademicsFirst- Good thought process. I apologize if I came off as blunt, I've just seen a lot of people in your position going way overboard in relation to the process. I've seen 96 mph fastballs in D3 baseball and 75 mph fastballs in D1 baseball. The only thing you can do as a player is work as hard as you can to be the best you can possibly be, both in the classroom and on the field. Once the time comes, getting a gauge of where you stand is easier than some think. If you get yourself...
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cabbagedad ·
Participation in the SoCal Scout league along with acceptance and attendance at the better Stanford camp (and/or a PG event) will give you both a real good idea where he stacks up. I've heard that statement about "there's a college for every player" before and I don't really agree. Realistically, the average player will finds it very surprising how competitive even most D3's and NAIA's are. Many decent/average HS players (not saying your son is), have to be willing to travel to the far...
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AcademicsFirst ·
Great points Cabbage...haha, if his velo stays where it is for the next two years, I'll be the first one telling him to go get his degree from Berkley or UCLA. He works out weekly with Trevor Bauer's pitching coach he had when he was in HS, so we'll see how his strength and velocity increases this next year. In the meantime, I'm just thankful he doesn't NEED baseball to get into a good College. Playing baseball would just be an added bonus.
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AcademicsFirst ·
Thanks J H...I totally agree with you.
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RJM ·
Check out Head First showcases. They're for kids who are more academically inclined.
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web's dad ·
AcademicsFirst, You're getting a lot of good advice here. A good reality check. Your son is not "projectible". He's a grinder. You seem to be doing all the right things to give your son the best chance to figure out where he belongs. Your son's academics will open doors for him. For the "grinders", at some point it becomes a matter of how hard he is willing to work. Web is a "grinder". He surpassed more physically gifted players because he was willing to out work them. Don't give up on...
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fenwaysouth ·
Totally agree with web's dad. AF - You have a dialogue in the top right box of the web page.
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AcademicsFirst ·
Thanks webs dad and you are definitely right. He's always fought the battle of being a smaller kid even back through playing Pony ball, so it's nothing he isn't use to. Hoping he can grow another 3-4" in the next year and a half, which would put him at 6'. He's playing on a Connie Mack team this summer, besides for playing on his Varsity summer team, so he'll go up against some solid hitters all summer long, which should help him. Yeah, that's what I love about this site...such great...
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cabbagedad ·
Originally Posted by AcademicsFirst: ..Hoping he can grow another 3-4" in the next year and a half, which would put him at 6'. ... AF, I know you commented on the reaching 6' partially in jest but be careful with that. I had that type of dialog with my son and it took him longer than it should have to accept his height and focus totally on what he can do with what he has instead of what he can't do because of what he doesn't have. If sub-6' is likely to stick, keep pointing out the players...
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AcademicsFirst ·
Cabbage...you are absolutely right. It's kinda funny because he always tells me you grow when you sleep, so he try's to get as much sleep as he can, which usually means going to bed earlier than I thought he would. But we really don't talk about height too much. He knows it will be what it is...and no, I'm 5'10 and his mom 5'7, so we didn't get that lucky. He eats very healthy and he try's to have a protein shake once a day after practice, so the rest will be left up to nature.
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Picked Off ·
AF All good posts here. I know of a crafty lefty here in CA that 2 years ago max'd out 78 at a PG Showcase listed at 5'8" 140 lbs. Our travel team faced him several times over the years & struggled to make solid contact.He is now listed at 5' 11' 175 lbs. & I'm told he sits mid 80's. and is still known as a crafty lefty. He committed to a DI high academic school this past November. I'm sure grades had a lot to do with it, but being a crafty lefty did as well. My point is that your...
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Re: Armory's "Rocket Launchers Road Show" Aug 10-11th at CBC

ThrowHarderFaster ·
Ok....now it's 38 pitchers over 90mph. Randy Sullivan ( @ARMoryCEO ) 7/17/13 4:19 PM S/O to 2015 LHP and ARMory stud Jared Middleton! 90mph at PG WWBA. That's #38. 22 since 1 Jan 2013. #boom !!!
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Velocity, God given? Or can it be drastically improved?

Wesleythecacther ·
What would be an average catcher velocity for high school varsity catchers? More specifically in the class of 2017? What would be an ideal catching velocity? Attached is a video of me throwing, any advice? Also, here is a link that I found that has workouts that will help pitchers throw harder: http://www.stack.com/a/how-to-throw-harder Will those workouts in the link above work for position players?
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CatsPop ·
Click on the link below to see some 2017 pop times + velo's @ a showcase today: https://twitter.com/PGShowcase...s/766800022017085440
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Matt13 ·
Is it wrong that I first read it as, "Whiskey, God given? Or can it be drastically improved?" For the record, I don't drink it.
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Kyle Boddy ·
Velocity is part God-given, part trainable. As for catching velocity, it generally doesn't matter directly. Pop times do. Actual, real pop times that are ELITE for advanced HS kids are in the 1.98 - 2.05 range with HIGH accuracy, not random throws 8 feet above the bag. An accurate 2.15 or better is very, very good for HS kids. Velocity is part of pop time but it's far less important than mechanics, transfer, and catching ability.
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Wesleythecacther ·
Thank you. I got my pop time down to a 1.8 personal best and consistently a 1.9 to 2.0 (2.0 from the knees).
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Kyle Boddy ·
I honestly doubt you threw a verified 1.8. The average pop time for elite MLB catchers is in the high 1.8X range. There's no one here to impress, most of us are ex-coaches and parents of once (and still) very good baseball players. The best thing you can do for your career is to be honest with yourself and your current abilities.
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Wesleythecacther ·
Thank you for the link!
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Wesleythecacther ·
I agree, I will be getting verified times when I go to a camp this October. Which gives me more time to lift and get stronger and better.
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Stafford ·
Maybe he did hit a 1.8 one time. Nothing surprises me when something is hand timed. There are a ton of kids who have hand-timed 4.4 40's but run 4.6 or higher when electronic timed There was a kid at our local high school who consistently put up excellent pop times and replicated it in games and threw everybody out. But, he was small, 5'8" 130lbs. O.K. HS hitter, looked to hit oppo base hits. As a defensive catcher, he had D1 skills, but did not project as far as size or as a hitter. Lots of...
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standballdad ·
It might be rare but I have seen HS kids POP 1.8's at showcases. I do not know the OP but I would not be quick dismiss what he says. My guess is that he is pretty quick based on the video, but needs to have it verified at showcase type event.
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Wesleythecacther ·
I'm not trying to impress any one. I was timed by the other teams coat and he told my coach, why would he lie? I haven't gotten it verified, but will be going to a camp sometime in the future to get my numbers verified.
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Ripken Fan ·
With all the metrics available today, I think a catcher's throw should be evaluated based on velocity and accuracy. Maybe "pop" with an adjustment based on the throw. Was at a showcase one time where the 3 best POPs would probably throw out 25% of would be runners.
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Wesleythecacther ·
The accuracy I agree with, but the velocity is not that important; it is a factor; which is why I am trying to get my velocity better. But POP is important.
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Consultant ·
Do not be concern about "pop" time, it creates one handed "lazy" catchers who cannot block the pitchers curve ball. When you "warm" up - practice catching the thrown ball on the heal of your mitt. This allows a quick transfer into the throwing hand. Infielders also should practice. Question: do you use a Easton catchers mitt? Bob
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Wesleythecacther ·
Can you go farther in depth?
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SultanofSwat ·
Velocity = technique + mass Mass is easy, but the technique is elusive
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Wesleythecacther ·
I'm not sure how it creates "lazy" catchers per say. I am more focused on blocking the pictures curve ball then throwing the runner out if I have to choose between the two. and I do not have an Easton mitt, I had All Star
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Wesleythecacther ·
What do you guys think of using weighted baseballs to develop arm strength?
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Consultant ·
No, no, no. Are you a "shot put" Bob
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Wesleythecacther ·
Thank you! I will keep working and keep you guys up to date. I am going to maybe start working with a personal trainer at a gym near my house.
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hshuler ·
Please don't think I said that in order to discourage you because that what not my intent. Continue working hard and controlling what you can and hopefully things will work out for you. I applaud you for reaching out for help and sincerely wish you the best! Please keep us posted on your progress.
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Wesleythecacther ·
I personally do not have an 80+ catching velocity, but have gone to college camps. I do understand why your coach would say that because it would put the catcher above the rest and make him stand out.
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Wesleythecacther ·
Thank you for the support, I do need it verified and I will when I go to a showcase in October.
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hshuler ·
Our travel coach told one of our catchers not to showcase yet because college scouts like to see 80+ velo from behind the plate. I am not sure if this is the "new" thing but this literally happened a week ago. He made it seem like a premium is put on velo.
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PGStaff ·
Batty, Hope my post didn't bother you. Mid 70s isn't bad at all, upper 70s is good and 80 or better is outstanding. Arm strength can be improved with age and work. 80 or better is far from impossible. If he has quick feet and quick release with some accuracy, he has a chance to play most anywhere. If he can hit, run and receive, he can play at a high level. Remember that many players develop a lot while they are in college. I agree with you about hand held times. We usually have at least...
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2017LHPscrewball ·
Is there a definition for a "legal" pop time calculation? I know the basics, but are there some rules that prohibit the catcher from starting his move long before the ball ever reaches the mitt? I think I remember seeing some comments here about how catchers "cheat" when it comes to having pop times timed in a showcase type setting (for instance their already standing on the plate when they receive the baseball).
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Wesleythecacther ·
What would be the normal size of a D1 catcher? I am 6 ft and 190 pounds. Good luck to your son in the future as I am going through the recruiting process right now.
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Batty67 ·
Topic near and dear to my heart as my son is a 2017 catcher. Looking at D2s and D3s given his size (5'10" 170lbs). Personally, I think hand-measured pop-times can easily help--or hinder--a given throw by as much as 0.2 seconds. So a kid throwing 2.05 consistently can get an artifact 2.2 or a 1.9. It all averages out in theory, but at a busy combine the 2.05 can get a 2.1, 2.1, and 2.2. Or get a 1.95, 2.0, 2.0. You can see which is better. My son has done two, 10-week weighted ball regimens...
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