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Thursday results that I know of:

DBAT 17 d. Mustangs-Ross (10-0)

Panthers 18 d. Mustangs-Hendricks (score?)

Tigers 17 d. Waco Lightning (16-9)

Tigers 17 d. Panthers 18 (8-0)

Marshals 17 d. Naa'taani NM Baseball (10-4)

DBAT 18 d. Mustangs-Wade (5-0)

DBAT 18 d. Marshals 17 (9-2)

Metro Pirates d. League City Legionaires (4-3)

Dallas Patriots 18 d. Metro Pirates (6-1)

Waco Lightning d. Naa'taani NM Baseball (score?)

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Friday's Winner's Bracket Games:

10AM @ Northwood
DBAT 17 vs. Dallas Tigers 17

12PM @ Northwood
DBAT 18 vs. Dallas Patriots 18

3PM @ Northwood
10AM winner vs. 12PM winner

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Had the distinct pleasure of meeting Old Bat Never today. Smile
Round 3

Tigers 17 d. DBAT 17 (5-4)
DBAT 18 d. Patriots 18 (10-2)
Waco Lightning d. Mustangs-Hendricks
Dallas Panthers 18 d. League City
Metro Pirates d. McKinney Marshals 17


Round 4

Dallas Panthers....bye
DBAT 18 d. Tigers 17 (5-2)
Dallas Patriots d. Waco Lightning (9-1)
DBAT 17 d. Metro Pirates (14-6)


Round 5 (Saturday @ Northwood)

DBAT 18 (4-0)....bye
10:00AM - Dallas Panthers 18 (2-1) vs. DBAT 17 (2-1)
12:00PM - Dallas Tigers 17 (3-1) vs. Dallas Patriots 18 (2-1)


Round 6 (Saturday @ Northwood)
3:00PM - ???


Round 7 (Championship Game/Saturday @ Northwood)
5:00PM - ???



Updated Bracket
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Not that anyone's keeping track, but the final five teams of the Regional Qualifier are all BBI Premier teams. Cool

Regardless of which one wins the tournament, BBI Premier teams will have won the AABC CMWS Qualifier, the AABC MMWS Qualifier and the AABC CM Regional Qualifier. I'm certain that the quality of teams in our league gives all of our teams a competitive advantage in tournaments such as these.

Still hoping that one day all of the best teams from the metroplex will play in one league....
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Oh, I'm keeping track to be sure. And there's no doubt I'm a BBI Premier homer.

The heads of a lot of outstanding organizations worked awfully hard over the off season to put the divisions together. It's unmatched exposure and competition for the players on every team and the teams' success rate on and off the field will reflect that. The divisions have been a long time coming and I'm very proud of the teams' accomplishments.

Having said that, I'm secretly pulling for DBAT 18 to win the tournament. Wink
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DBAT GM - I have not mentioned what team my son plays for. Several posters know what team/club I am with but I usually do not post about my team or club.

I know that DBAT has a great organization with the top players and I congratulate you and the DBAT organization for that. On the flipside, I think it is great that there are various opportunities around town in other clubs and other leagues. There are even some good players that play for their high school summer teams in various high school leagues. Many of these non-premier players even take lessons or come in to use the cages at DBAT Smile. There are many good players in the metroplex and for that we should all be proud.

I didn't mean to ruffle your feathers...I just couldn't pass up the "eye roll" since the post began that you weren't keeping track. Maybe you left out a wink on that one. Wink

Good luck to your DBAT 18's in the tournament. Smile
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I believe what the DBAT GM is getting at, tongue in cheek of coarse, is that in recent past some organizations were not asked to particpate in the "premier" league the Mustangs are associated with.

I, back when I was coaching, contacted Sam trying to get the scoop and got the impression that only certain organizations were considered worthy of particpating in their "premier" league. What their organizations standards were was unclear to me.

From what I on read about results from this forum, it seems that there is only one "Premier" league in Dallas. Unfortunately, the Mustangs are not participants.

On a side note, I don't think it's really that important what league a team plays in as long as the competition is at the highest level possible for the quality of talent each team assembles.

I believe the GM posted he is all for having all the top shelf teams compete regardless of what league they associate with.

Unfortunately, it was my observation that sometimes egos get involved in amatuer baseball which doesn't allow for this at times. Frown
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Admittedly, I am not familiar with the history, I have only been involved with HS baseball for a short time.

However, it seems like this whole discussion is pointing towards braggin rights with only one way being the "correct" way to go. I have acknowledged that the DBAT teams appear superior but I am also saying that maybe one size doesn't fit all?

Surely, there is a new "man law" brewing in this topic somewhere.... Smile
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Ok, I'm still new to this whole HS Baseball thing myself but my hope is that by this time next year maybe Lone Star and BBI Premier could combined or play a couple of round robin events.

That said, the BBI Premier League is "elite" and doesn't lend itself to growing the talent level of the whole area. It seems they have compounded the problem.

The recent history of 4A and 5A state champions tells me that DFW Baseball Powers that be aren't getting the job done.

But maybe they are, is the goal scholarships and being drafted?

Maybe more kids and get scholarships and looks if the area won more HS games / playoffs and ChampionshipS.

Should more players from individual high schools play together?

I dont' know the answers or even the right questions to ask.

Should those premier teams carry less players on the rosters so more talent is available to form other "premier teams" or should the parent step back and understand that it is better to have their son on a team with a larger roster 15,16,17, and play with the best or not?

I have recent experiences that tell me the answer can be both or either. My kid needed reps last year after coming off a broken foot, we switched teams at the end of the year and guested with two other clubs, he got 60 more ABs and started 5 more games. This year he ended up on a BBI League team ( not Premier) that promised a lot of reps up in the end they had 17 boys on the roster. We left that team after two weeks, we were forunate enough to end up with a great club but he is at the end of the roster and hopes to play his way into more playing time. He already has moved up the rotation.

Iron sharpens iron.

I do know that there is a big difference between the talent that plays in the BBI League and the BBI Premier League from what I watched this year.

The talent in the Lone Star league is good, better than the BBI League but so far it seems to be a draw against the BBI Premier league teams.

But DBGM does have some wins and tourny records that seem to be evidence to his case.

The problem is that there are still so many boys that want to play ball and not enough "premier" league teams to play on.

Those boys are the ones that fill-out the 4A and 5A rosters. They have to play somewhere and hope they can develop. Not all area HS team rosters are filled with premier / lone star players.

JMHO
Meats,

I think it is important to understand with your post that most do not consider the HS season of primary importance.

Not that is should or shouldn't be that way, but recognizing that summer baseball has become what a player will attach his talent identity with.

Also, in your post you reference in which your son made decisions on what was best for him personally. Such as reps needed ect. So do those players who are considered the "cream of the crop". Most want to play with and against what is considered the best at their age level.

I am not sure what would be better. To have a select few teams in which consume most of the top notch players or to disperse them among more teams added with other talents.

Certainly, seperating the upper tier would reveal the true coaching abilities of some.

Possibly, I could see more competition created with the latter theory.
The "Premier" organization is not a league --> semantics perhaps, but the truth. They play each other in tournaments that are open to other teams.....with the possible exception of a year-end "championship".

I hope you all have a chance to meet John Fuqua (DBAT 18 GM) one day -- he is a good guy. I believe his desire is to promote HS-age baseball in Dallas, regardless of the team affiliation. His schtick here is to rahrah the DBAT stuff and he does a good job at that (part of his job), but most of us DBAT-ters (including our grand poobah) recognize that there are many excellent organizations and numerous opportunities for the north Texas talent.

The BBI Premier divisions are providing an opportunity for strong competition in Dallas --- arguably the best competition in a single summer league in quite some time.

Bob's your uncle. Smile

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