All Beach

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Originally posted by Pilots81:
El Gato, great call on that statemnt, 1 Beach infielder has not made an error in district play in 2 years but I think he's a lock anyways, but on the other hand, 1 guy has made????? but his batting is average is well above 400, so your right, is there criteria or just batting stats?

Pilot..Share with us , Who is this error free infielder ? I know he's not at FC .

Ok again district games my point still stands!
I have seen all the players that are mentioned make multiple errors in district games. This is not a slam on those kids they are all deserving on their own merit. I have seen them all make terrific plays this year it is just an exaggeration to say any of them have not made any errors this year much less in two years.

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Originally posted by WB Reporter:
Beach Family, I can't comment on the Beach infielders but be careful that you are comparing apples and apples. You said you have not seen a infield player who has not made an error this year. Pilots81 carefully said "has not made an error in district play." One is a subset of the other, his being a narrower set than that to which you refer. BTW, it is possible for an infield player to not have any errors in a year.

Weren't the new bats supposed to bring the hitters back to earth. lol I guess that only applied to college kids.

Funny how that only seems to apply during the regular season before stats start flying around.

I thought this was the yr of the Pitcher?

With all the errors made, The great pitching duals,and all low scoring close games i read about etc... How did so many get such great #'s?


Good luck to all your teams during the postseason.

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Originally posted by VAAngelsfan:
Weren't the new bats supposed to bring the hitters back to earth. lol I guess that only applied to college kids.

HS players are not using the BBCOR bats yet. The only change was banning certain composites.

The effects will be seen next year.

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Originally posted by redbird5:

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Originally posted by VAAngelsfan:
Weren't the new bats supposed to bring the hitters back to earth. lol I guess that only applied to college kids.

HS players are not using the BBCOR bats yet. The only change was banning certain composites.

The effects will be seen next year.

show restraint redbird...)) i am with you

I would also like to know which infielder has not made an error in two years. Please tell us because that is a noteworthy fact.

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Originally posted by VAAngelsfan:
Weren't the new bats supposed to bring the hitters back to earth. lol I guess that only applied to college kids.

Funny how that only seems to apply during the regular season before stats start flying around.

I thought this was the yr of the Pitcher?

With all the errors made, The great pitching duals,and all low scoring close games i read about etc... How did so many get such great #'s?


Good luck to all your teams during the postseason.

I have to second this post and say that, after watching the Beach very closely all year long, and after reading the paper every week and seeing all of the low scores and all of the pitching duals that took place, some of those stats in the paper this morning seem a tad bit inflated to me...best of luck to all teams in the tournament this weekend! should be fun to watch!!!

Pilots 81 and WB Reporter, I will bite. Who are these infielders without an error this year in district play? My bet is a middle infielder would have too many chances and would commit an error along the way. Same with the hot corner. A first baseman might miss a low throw or two, but the error would go to the thrower.

Coach of the Year = St. Clair Jones.

He has done it with only 2 seniors (both pitchers) and a group of underclassmen.

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Originally posted by redbird5:
Coach of the Year = St. Clair Jones.

He has done it with only 2 seniors (both pitchers) and a group of underclassmen.

I agree... No brainer there! Only two seniors, and he's also missing one of his best players (Turner Bishop) who is out with an injury. Well done Coach Jones!!!

Pilot 81 who was the infielder with no errors for two years?

C.O.Y.- Saint Clair Jones. A nod should be given to Pete Zell and his staff at Salem for their great season as well !
Kellam's winning pitcher last night, Junior lefthander Mitch Moynihan should absolutely be 1st team Pitcher or Utility player. Mitch's pitching numbers are second to none in the Beach District this year. In 48 innings pitched this season Mitch has recorded 65 K's while walking only 8 batters. His 8 wins to one very tough one run loss is tops as well. I'm sure that his 1.90 ERA is near the top of the leaders as well. Mitch had some decent offensive numbers while not committing a single error all year defensively in centerfield. Mitch batted .337 with four HR's.
This was certainly the year that the Beach District had the most impressive arms in recent memory. This list should include, Morimando, Cook, Reinerth, Tomchick, Lemaster, Begley, Staskey, Sandifer, Shiner, Krause, Long, Evans, and I'm sorry that I don't know the young man from Green Run, but do know that he should be on this list. All of these fine Pitchers had very good years, but none better than Mitch Moynihan !!!

Moynihan was big last night, he has some pretty impressive stats, although Cook took the loss, Cook should be 1st team pitcher as well,, his era has to 1 or less, Maybe they will give pitchers 4 spots, Lemasters, Merimundo too. Ive never seen so many 1 run games like this year, oh and FC had 6 or 7 hits, not 3 like the newspaper said, Good job to Saint Clair, and the whole coaching staff

Robert Bryson is the pitcher from Green Run that Driller is referring to.

Nice article in the VA Pilot sports page on St. Clair. With the discussion of him possibly being COY, this article is timely.

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Originally posted by playright:
Hunter Davis? never heard of him, last game I saw, satowski kid was at short. think TJ Costen is a lock for first team and second team may be the kid from OL (name? also pitches well)or maybe the kid from landstown or tallwood both underclassmen but very good

All good players. OL SS is Lambert. Easy to pick, the coaches normally go by batting avg. Which one lead beach in avg and who was 2nd. That's what they have done every other year.

TJ Costen is this years SS, he made plays that no one in our district makes and maybe only Matt Campbell makes, Hickory, Costen's batting avg is well over 400 and his OBP is above 600, if you walk him, its a triple, and coaches know this, other teams game plan is to not let Costen beat them. Costen has had an outstanding year, Lambert, Strenn, even Faison have had great years, but Costen had the best,

Seems like you are quite the fan Pilots. I can't say since I don't know all the ss in beach, but not sure he lead them all in avg and I've seen a few that have great hands, range, and arm.

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Originally posted by Pilots81:
I have to agree with Redbird on this one, no disrespect to anyone who hits over 500 or even 400, but Kellam faces everone's ACE everygame, I would be willing to Bet that Kempsvuille usually faces a #2 or #3 pitcher in a rotation, no disrespect, but Im sure Kellam got COOK, Lemasters or Thomchic, Merimundo, Statsky? I could go on and on, just like FC and OL and Pa, they get everyone's #1

When most weeks you only play two games, almost all the teams have faced each other's number one at some point. Coaches pitch them every other game this year unless they had 3 games or Twood/Green Run scheduled, no offense meant to either team but they had difficult years.

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Originally posted by Pilots81:
TJ Costen is this years SS, he made plays that no one in our district makes and maybe only Matt Campbell makes, Hickory, Costen's batting avg is well over 400 and his OBP is above 600, if you walk him, its a triple, and coaches know this, other teams game plan is to not let Costen beat them. Costen has had an outstanding year, Lambert, Strenn, even Faison have had great years, but Costen had the best,

I'll have to disagree with Pilot on this one..Too many errors especially when the pressure is on.Are we watching the same games ? or are you being paid?
How about your 2 year error free infielder? is he on the team ?

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Originally posted by Jackal:

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Originally posted by Pilots81:
TJ Costen is this years SS, he made plays that no one in our district makes and maybe only Matt Campbell makes, Hickory, Costen's batting avg is well over 400 and his OBP is above 600, if you walk him, its a triple, and coaches know this, other teams game plan is to not let Costen beat them. Costen has had an outstanding year, Lambert, Strenn, even Faison have had great years, but Costen had the best,

I'll have to disagree with Pilot on this one..Too many errors especially when the pressure is on.Are we watching the same games ? or are you being paid?
How about your 2 year error free infielder? is he on the team ?

Jackal, you can tell by pilots and drillers post they are connected some how and one is FC and other appears to be a Kellam fan/parent. They are both on the "parent" push for all beach for moynihan and costen. But what I have seen the last 5 years is coaches picking based on batting avg period. Very little separates the middle infielders. So did either lead in batting avg for their position? Paper listed avg's a couple weeks ago, but doesn't list position. So I have no idea who is who.

I believe Pilot's parent push is for a 2nd baseman on FC. The "player with no errors in district play in 2 years". He is just a FC fan for Costen.

When they select the All Beach shortstop I hope the coaches break out the scorebooks and consider all phases of the game such as offense and defense. Hunter Davis has made the plays that I have not seen other shortstops make this year. He has played the position well and hit well.

Hey Beach Family, You think I'm doing a Parent Push? For who?, I just chimed in on the discussion, about what criteria do coaches use for all beach. Parent Push? lol,

"No debate" "Lock" "Hasn't had an error in 2 years" These are not discussion items but rather an attempt to limit the public discussion based upon facts. I prefer posts that give facts about the players that are not exaggerated by fathers.
QUOTE]Originally posted by Pilots81:
Hey Beach Family, You think I'm doing a Parent Push? For who?, I just chimed in on the discussion, about what criteria do coaches use for all beach. Parent Push? lol,[/QUOTE]

Here is my shot at the 2011 1st Team - (15 players were selected last year)

1B - Sean Morimando, David Dean
2B - Michael Reinerth, Tyler Booth
SS - TJ Costen
3B - Greg Tomchick, Ryan Cook
OF - Jeremy Sandifer, Connor Staskey, Kyle Porter
P - Chase Lemaster, Mitch Moynihan
C - Tommy Kane
Utility - Cody Snyder, Cameron Begley

Player of the Year - Mitch Moynihan
Coach of the Year - St. Clair Jones

Apparently the listings have now been released. From Landstown's website:

Jeremy Sandifer: 1st Team All Beach Outfielder
Nick Faison: Honorable Mention
Chris Schaible: Honorable Mention
Eric Slagle: Honorable Mention

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Originally posted by bball_lifer:
Apparently the listings have now been released. From Landstown's website:

Jeremy Sandifer: 1st Team All Beach Outfielder
Nick Faison: Honorable Mention
Chris Schaible: Honorable Mention
Eric Slagle: Honorable Mention

anyone seen the full list? congrats to Sandifer. Those honorable mentions 2nd team picks or just honorable mention Landstonw?

First Team
C- Kane
1st- Dean
2nd- Rienerth
SS- Costen/Lambert
3rd- Tomchick
P- Moynihan/Cook/Staskey
OF- Sandifer/Moynihan/Horn
UT- Morimando
DH- Schwanke
POY- Moynihan
COY- St. Clair Jones

Second Team
C-Bryant
1st-Sinnen/Tharp
2nd-Pezzella
SS-Spanitz
3rd-Snyder
P-Lemaster/Morimando
OF-Windom/Pezzella/Porter
UT-Crouse

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Originally posted by Wisebball19:
First Team
C- Kane
1st- Dean
2nd- Rienerth
SS- Costen/Lambert
3rd- Tomchick
P- Moynihan/Cook/Staskey
OF- Sandifer/Moynihan/Horn
UT- Morimando
DH- Schwanke
POY- Moynihan
COY- St. Clair Jones

Second Team
C-Bryant
1st-Sinnen/Tharp
2nd-Pezzella
SS-Spanitz
3rd-Snyder
P-Lemaster/Morimando
OF-Windom/Pezzella/Porter
UT-Crouse

Thanks Wiseball...but Moniyhan is listed Pitcher and OF...pretty sure it's one or the other..my guess is they listed him OF so they could get two pitchers in besides him....is list actually posted anywhere yet?

Nope thats correct, he made it for both positions.

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Originally posted by Wisebball19:
Nope thats correct, he made it for both positions.

wow, you obviously have some good inside info. So why would they name a kid to both instead of giving another kid a spot? Especially outfield where there were a lot of good players. Moniyhan had a great year, 10w on the mound and solid defense in outfield. Very deserving of POY. Do you know his batting avg for the end of regular season? I believe he was about .337 or so? Sure another outfielder somewhere in the beach had solid defense and maybe a little more pop? Just my thought. Sometimes kids get missed because they are part of the "it" crowd. It all the previous posts for all beach I had seen every name except the dh. So the "talk" does make it around at least in here.

Moynihan just goes to show that you dont have to be a superstart to win. The softer throwing lefty had a great year pitching and shower a bit of power too He honestly deserved it

By no means am i trying to bash or hurt anyones feelings, but the all conference teams are all poltical, everyone knows, i agree with all the people choosen for 1st and 2nd team however, some of the kids mentioned i would deffiantly have to disagree on such as the <edited by redbird5>,i went to many of games and seen numerous errors. But I guess its really poltical its ashmaed but congrats to all the kids it was a great year of baseball, exicted about todays games at ODU

<edited by redbird5 - we don't bash players on here>

757 the "honorable mention" I believe is more of a team not district thing. Coach just recognizing a players contribution. Even if it is for the district, as a young player I have no problem with him recognized. I think he will eventually make 1st or 2nd team, especially with all the Senior SS's on their way out.

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Originally posted by rainoutsux:
757 the "honorable mention" I believe is more of a team not district thing. Coach just recognizing a players contribution. Even if it is for the district, as a young player I have no problem with him recognized. I think he will eventually make 1st or 2nd team, especially with all the Senior SS's on their way out.

So help me out guys .Just how does the 1st team 2nd team get selected . I think I read batting adverage somrwhere ,Is it stats or the coaches choice kinda like all stars at little league.I'm pretty sure errors are NOT a factor looking at the 1st team... Just curious

Pretty good list, all very deserving young men, as for calling out kids by name 757, well I think everybody has an opinion so IMHO you are sooooo far off base and wrong for calling that fine you man out like that.

I know the list on here is probably solid and accurate, but I haven't seen anything in the Pilot. I hope the post was on the money.

It cant get anymore accurate!

I'm trusting you Wisebball...but I have a tendency not to take everything I read in public forums to be fact. I heard there was a kid who didn't make any errors for two years on a post in here...didn't believe that either...lol! But I have seen all the other district stuff in the paper, so I wasn't sure.