Being Recruited While Attending College & Visits

Don't know about the Juco rules, but I think the 4-year to 4-year (excluding graduate school) is considered tampering. 

It is against the rules for a JuCo to recruit players from another JuCo. It is tampering and is subject to penalty.
It is against the rules for one 4 year school to recruit players from another 4 year school. It is tampering and is subject to penalties.
It is normal for JuCo players to be recruited by 4 year schools while they are still attending (and playing for) the JuCo. Most of this recruiting occurs during the fall of the players soph year.
Whether or not a problem is created by the recruitment depends on a number of things. Like who initiated the recruitment (player or school) and whether it’s being done with the knowledge (and consent) of the JuCo HC.
Having said all that, people work around these rules quite often. The schools know how to do it. Players and parents usually don’t. Whenever a player isn’t content at one school and contacts another school (or even worse if a parent does this) the first phone call is usually from the HC of the school that was contacted to the HC of the school with the player trying to leave. And that almost always works out poorly for the player.

@adbono posted:

It is against the rules for a JuCo to recruit players from another JuCo. It is tampering and is subject to penalty.
It is against the rules for one 4 year school to recruit players from another 4 year school. It is tampering and is subject to penalties.
It is normal for JuCo players to be recruited by 4 year schools while they are still attending (and playing for) the JuCo. Most of this recruiting occurs during the fall of the players soph year.
Whether or not a problem is created by the recruitment depends on a number of things. Like who initiated the recruitment (player or school) and whether it’s being done with the knowledge (and consent) of the JuCo HC.
Having said all that, people work around these rules quite often. The schools know how to do it. Players and parents usually don’t. Whenever a player isn’t content at one school and contacts another school (or even worse if a parent does this) the first phone call is usually from the HC of the school that was contacted to the HC of the school with the player trying to leave. And that almost always works out poorly for the player.

I guess that a "third neutral party" is often used to broker interest to the player?

@Francis7 posted:

I guess that a "third neutral party" is often used to broker interest to the player?

Yes

The "umpires" are a great communication of info.

Bob

My kids coach helps in the JUCO to 4 year process but is often a conduit to conversations between player and 4 year coach(es). A couple of schools reached out to my son via twitter DM, others texts or calls, and then some thru HC. Son kept coach in the loop throughout his recruitment.

At sons visit to school he committed to he met a P that was at his second JUCO. He left JUCO #1 for JUCO #2 when the pitching coach (who recruited him) took a job with the Twins. I believe that he had to wait until the summer after Freshman year to change schools.

Related to this thread he said at his new JUCO he is not allowed to have any contact with 4 year schools on his own. EVERYTHING goes thru his HC/RC. Most likely pros/cons of both ways of doing it. Both he and my son both committed to new school.

Luk,

why follow the  pitching Coach to his new school? When you are on the mound, only your teammates and your ability  will compete successfully. It is a stage and the pitcher is a performer.

Bob

Because many believe that great coaches can help make them better than an average or bad coach.

One of son's college PCs moved to the pros. He is still the guy who son calls for advice on work out programs, or if someone suggests a change in a motion, etc, he'll send him video and ask his opinion. I don't know that it's because the guy is a great coach (although obviously pretty good), but son says the guy gets him, so he's a great coach for my son. Having that one person you can trust to look out for your best interests and tell you the truth is worth a lot.