Does anyone know the rules right now? For a current D1 baseball player that is transferring now, what sort of contact can his future prospective college coach have with him this month or next month.
is it only by phone or email right now? Can they reach out to him proactively?
trying to make sense out of all this mess.
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It sounds like there may be a vote today by the D1 Council to reconsider in person recruiting after April 15th. Currently, the dead period is extended through May 31st.
https://twitter.com/kendallrog...179564835770373?s=21
I know this does not specifically answer your question but might be the relief we are all seeking.
Good info there! I saw that as well and sounds like it will pass.
do you know if this dead period applies to current d1 players that are in the middle of transferring? I’m assuming it does??
@Gregory H. posted:Good info there! I saw that as well and sounds like it will pass.
do you know if this dead period applies to current d1 players that are in the middle of transferring? I’m assuming it does??
There was no vote yesterday and will not be one probably until April/May.
Middle of transfering from where? Has he played, is he still on the team? If he is on the team roster, I am sure that he cannot do anything until the championship season has ended. D1 to another D1, D2 or Juco?
D1 dead period has nothing to do with transfering if he is on a D1 team wanting to transfer to another D1.By NCAA rules, no coach contact if you are on team roster.
This is the statement put out by the NCAA yesterday.
http://www.ncaa.org/about/reso...es-return-recruiting
It sounds like they are still focused on the June 1 date with final decisions about what exactly will happen June 1 being made in April.
There is a note regarding transfers in the release although not specific to your question:
The Working Group on Transfers provided an update to the Council, and members reviewed data from the first several years of the Transfer Portal. The Council affirmed its preference to vote as soon as April on a legislative proposal that would provide student-athletes the opportunity to compete immediately after transfer, no matter what sport they play.
I would be shocked if they allowed d1 students to transfer and play right away to another D1.
Maybe in special circumstances, example redshirt.
@TPM posted:I would be shocked if they allowed d1 students to transfer and play right away to another D1.
Maybe in special circumstances, example redshirt.
“Player’s rights” is a hot topic right now. There is a player led protest getting a lot of attention around March Madness using #notncaaproperty.
https://www.usatoday.com/story...ial-media/115572278/
The statement about transfers could be simple PR by the NCAA as part of an appeasement strategy around the basketball player’s protest or not, time will tell.
@TPM posted:My response about transfering was in regards to baseball.
I know that you are aware that baseball does not exist in a vacuum within the NCAA. If football or basketball sneezes the rest of the sports, including baseball, catch the same cold.
Kids should get a one time transfer. Coaches can cut after a kid signs, kids should be able to transfer. It’s just not a level playing field.
@TPM posted:Whatever you say.
For whatever it’s worth, you seem different as of late. Very short with other people as well in multiple post, when it seems entirely unwarranted. With that said, I hope all is well with you.
Weather my post was worthy of your implied exasperation I will leave for you and others to decide.
@22and25 posted:For whatever it’s worth, you seem different as of late. Very short with other people as well in multiple post, when it seems entirely unwarranted. With that said, I hope all is well with you.
Weather my post was worthy of your implied exasperation I will leave for you and others to decide.
Basketball and football bring in tons of money for programs. So that is why I left them out of the discussion.
The original question was about transfering to another program during the dead period (without much info when asked).
D1 baseball players CAN transfer, just not to another D1, and if unless special exception, they have to sit out a year.
Do you know why this is the rule? The reason I am asking is because of situations which occurred years ago. Not being a smart ass just wondering if you know why the rule came to be in place (not that I necessarily agree with it all).
Reiterating TPM's answer to your initial question: the dead period does not pertain to transfer students.
You posted earlier about your son entering the transfer portal. If that happened, other schools can contact your son at any time and using any method (and vis versa). If he's not on the portal, no contact. (Assuming that you are talking about transferring D1 to D1 or D1 to D2.)
I feel no pain for the players that feel the NCAA should reward them for their likeness. They did, by giving them a full scholarship and who knows whatever else.
Who I feel badly for are the women who deserve as much or even more recognition. It's time they get treated a lot better than they are.
But this topic wasn't about football, basketball. Gregory asked a question and still has not answered questions. Again, the dead period has nothing to do with transferring, even if it ended tomorrow, the player has to enter the portal and wait until he is released. The topic is about D1, different rules for different divisions.
FWIW, April is the next time that the working groups will be discussing, options, not sure there will be any discussion on ending the dead period, and that has to do with COVID as well. But be aware programs are setting up camps, as some feel that it might be allowed. So now is the time to consider prospect camps.
Now for the question I asked no one answered.
Quite a few years ago, there was no roster cap and only a few talented players got scholarship dollars. Players were transferring in and out, it was a revolving door. Then all of a sudden someone realized that players weren't graduating. Parents sent their baseball players off to school and they left when baseball was over, with no degree.
So the NCAA instituted rules that included GSR, graduation success rate, and APR, academic success reports, caps on rosters, etc. and why your player has to be on track to graduate within a 4,5 year period. Also, no D1 transfer without sitting a year. It wasn't to punish a player for transferring, but to make sure that the player, if they lost credits, would remain on track to graduate.
After all, that's why we send our children to college to get a degree.
Schools lost scholarships, programs in the top RPI today were bad. Programs got serious, coaches get bonuses for GPA and in baseball, if the player does not get drafted, and does not graduate, the program gets a major ding. That's why your coach and the academic advisor work their butts off to see that baseball players graduate on time. FWIW after 9 years when son went back to graduate, it added to the GSR. That's become pretty important to most schools.
So I doubt pretty seriously that the NCAA will go back to the situation that got them in trouble in the first place, regardless of whatever the NCAA decides on other sports.
What I do wish is that the baseball working group would allow more baseball money to more players and more scholarships.
One quick story about a friends son, she used to post here.
Her son transfered and had to sit out the first year. Then someone noticed that not all credits were accepted at the new program. So he had to sit another year. That's probably just one of many stories that happened.
@TPM posted:Whatever you say.
Looks like the D1 council passed the one time transfer rule today and baseball players will enjoy immediate eligibility.
@22and25 posted:Looks like the D1 council passed the one time transfer rule today and baseball players will enjoy immediate eligibility.
They may enjoy immediate eligibility, but will they enjoy having to be asked to leave because the coach found a more experienced player?
Think about it. How will this affect 2022s who have yet to receive an offer? Can you explain how this will benefit the player, not the coaches?
@TPM posted:They may enjoy immediate eligibility, but will they enjoy having to be asked to leave because the coach found a more experienced player?
Think about it. How will this affect 2022s who have yet to receive an offer? Can you explain how this will benefit the player, not the coaches?
I am simply following up on the fact that what I saw happening based on the momentum in other sports did in fact happen for baseball, despite your arrogant and condescending insistence that you knew better. Football and Basketball sneezed😉. You were sure it wouldn’t happen and now you are sure you know exactly how it will impact all involved. Why don’t you just just educate us instead of the inane setup questions?
Per The Athletic:
The Council also approved a return to the normal sport-specific recruiting calendar on June 1, a source said, ending a 15-month recruiting dead period. Nothing the group votes on is considered final until the meeting officially concludes on Thursday.
@22and25 posted:I am simply following up on the fact that what I saw happening based on the momentum in other sports did in fact happen for baseball, despite your arrogant and condescending insistence that you knew better. Football and Basketball sneezed😉. You were sure it wouldn’t happen and now you are sure you know exactly how it will impact all involved. Why don’t you just just educate us instead of the inane setup questions?
I think I am educated enough to understand what it means. You need to do your homework. If you have specific questions you can send a pm or visit Twitter. 1400 basketball players have now entered the transfer portal. You will get plenty of positive and negative opinions.
This wasn't done to make baseball better. The NCAA doesn't really care about what happens in sports other than football and basketball. They didn't change the one time transfer rule for non revenue sports.
Edit: read the article in D1 baseball. Two opinions from two coaches from 2 different programs, covers all the changes and dates.
