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Dear Mr. Schilling

itsinthegameitsinthegame5,000+ posts
You are one of the good guys in the MLB today.
Please do not take this the wrong way.

You went on national and local TV today - and said there was "no better place to shut the fans up than Yankee Stadium". I do believe all New York fans heard your message loud and clear.

My advice to you - even though you do not need it - would be to make those statements after you beat the Yankees - and not prior to getting your as* kicked in front of 50,000 Yankees fans.

Now - please sit on the pine - and shut up.
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IN 78704 (It's not just a zip)10+ posts
My 18 year old son's English assignment was to write a ballad about a current event. Even though he is an Astro fan I think he hit the nail on the head.


The Stage Was Set by Tyler Carlson

The stage was set, a New York night
The fans they lost their minds
A play gone bad unleashed the fad
Wreaked havoc of all kinds

The cops were called to solve it all
As safety lost its hold
But would the fuzz defuse the buzz
Before the mood grew cold

The game went on the Sox grew strong
Momentum switched their way
The Yankee pride had lost its stride
As Schilling saved the day

Don't close the book on the Red Sox
Their season is not through
They lived to play another day
Let this inspire you
C caught_looking100+ posts
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Originally posted by itsinthegame:
You went on national and local TV today - and said there was "no better place to shut the fans up than Yankee Stadium".

If this strikes you as "in your face" trash talking then you are, to say the least, a very sensitive person. I've heard it said in all the major sports, time & again, that players love to go out and silence the crowd on the road. I think it's obvious to most people outside of New York that it must be especially pleasing to quiet a New York crowd as they obviously can be rather vocal and shall we say.....slightly obnoxios and oh yeah....rude and maybe a little ....um..fowl mouthed.

Granted, he didn't quiet the crowd in game 1 but Schilling certainly earned his ....um...stripes...shall we say by displaying the kind of guts he showed in game 6 and again in game 2 of the World Series.
C caught_looking100+ posts
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Originally posted by itsinthegame:
Shilling should keep his blowhole shut - pitch well - and let the fans do the talking.

Lastly - at $10-15 million per year - he better show some guts.

He's certainly well paid but to potentially put the remainder of his career on the line by playing with this injury is something that many fans find admirable. That kind of passion isn't exactly easily found among today's players.

By the way, for all the money paid to these players the owners actually like them to communicate with the press. They've discovered that fans enjoy reading quotes in the paper and seeing interviews on tv.
Dad04Dad045,000+ posts
When he said it I was disapointed. It was out of left field and good bulletin board stuff. He bought into the rivalry. I let it slide and figured he learned something when he lost.

I was happy he let his play do his talking in Game 6, ashe did the rest of the year.

The NY press is pounding him; Who cares.
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As inspirational and impressive as he is on days he pitches, that's how annoying and insufferable Curt Schilling is on all other days. Yesterday was particularly bad because Schilling had a microphone in front of him instead of a batter and was called upon to talk about his three favorite subjects: Me, myself and I. ...

Yet it's hard to fathom a player who's more self-centered, self-aggrandizing and in-your-face than the con man they call "Shill."


News Day- Jon Heyman

I can't make character judgements about somebody based on a few innings work. He had a great year and didn't quit, or let up when he got hurt. Guts fits, I think.
itsinthegameitsinthegame5,000+ posts
I understand.

For me - Admirable would be winning and losing with class and keeping your mouth shut.

The guy went out and pitched a baseball game.
Big deal. He gets paid alot of money to do just that. I find nothing admirable about that - other than the fact that he went out and earned his keep - just like we all do.

The bloodsoaked sock - the "true grit" profile - is just a bunch of bs hype that generates good sales numbers for the media. The guy has a minor injury that he is playing through. So what? My guess is they will start comparing him to Audie Murphy soon.

Lets be honest about it - I wonder how many people would like to watch the game with a real announcer (instead of the McCarvers and Bucks of the world). No bs - just baseball.

It would be nice. Just once.
Of course - just my opinion.
Dad04Dad045,000+ posts
Don't start me on FOX. The broadcast is very disapointing. I'm hoping for a short series now and one of the main reasons is FOX. I just can't look at another ad for Dr. House, Obnoxious Boss, or Nanny 911.

I hate starting the half inning with the ball half way to the plate.

McCarver and Buck were huge Yankee homers until game 7 of the ALCS, it was sickening. They finally quit cheering for the Cards at the end of game 2 of the WS.

Thank God they canned catcher cam, but thet traded it in for "Dirt Cam", a camera sticking out of the ground. Please, end the misery.
catchermom03catchermom03500+ posts
The announcers for Fox have been driving me crazy Mad ...I believe there should be a local sportscaster in there with them who can provide accurate info on these teams...some of the junk they have been reporting is completely bogus and untrue..I find myself talking to the TV more often than not which if you have been in the business I am in and for as long this is not a good sign....need to find a new pass time
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O Orlando1,000+ posts
Dad, the Sons of Sam Horn don't entirely agree with your pro-Cards assessment Wink

Fox Coverage

...and I know I don't. But when you're out-of-town and get most of your team's coverage on WGN and TBS, you learn to tune the announcers out.

The camera work on Fox, however, can't be 'tuned out'. I can only assume that the director, producer, and camera operators have heard of baseball, but never actually seen the game played. Anybody watching knows the laundry list of problems, so I'll only add that it has seriously handicapped my enjoyment of both the LCS and the WS.
Dad04Dad045,000+ posts
Orlando

Maybe I'm too sensative too. LOL. It just seemed to me that they were overcoaching from the press box, mostly for the Cards. I read and post on SoSH, but I can't keep up with 12 posts per second. I let the stat nazi's do their thing then look for the summary and see if it makes sense.

I like that site though. Schilling takes stuff for being over dramatic, but if you read his posts from 3AM after the games, you know its for real. He really is into it and the rest are believing too.

At TBS at least, I think they tired of what great athletes the Braves pitchers were, which went on for years.

The NESN coverage is nearly cable access quality compared to the glitzy, star studded YES Network, but I enjoy the frumpy, low budget(stingy), New England quality of it.

After Games 4-7 of the ALCS I watched the hand-wringing post-mortems on YES. Very satifying to say the least.
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C caught_looking100+ posts
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Originally posted by Orlando:
The camera work on Fox, however, can't be 'tuned out'. I can only assume that the director, producer, and camera operators have heard of baseball, but never actually seen the game played. Anybody watching knows the laundry list of problems, so I'll only add that it has seriously handicapped my enjoyment of both the LCS and the WS.

When they start focusing the camera on people in the stands it drives me nuts. I get it when there's somebody with an amusing sign or a funny costume, and even some of the more emotional expressions. Most of the time, however, I start thinking that I should know this person. That it must be a movie star or a sports star. Sometimes it is, but most of the time it's nobody. Yet I still spend time racking my brain trying to place the face.
PAmomPAmom1,000+ posts
Personally, I can't stand it when athletes give "testimony" after a big performance or win. Whether sincere or not, it often comes across as phony, TV evangelism to me. Thank God privately for the talents and gifts He has blessed you with, but public "preachiness" just sounds corny and hypocritical in the realm of competition.

Does anyone really believe that God was a Sox fan this year and made the Cards roll over and play dead? Or that He decided NOT to listen to the prayers of the St. Louis faithful (players and fans)? I don't think so.
DaddyBoDaddyBo100+ posts
PAMom...I think the first word of your post("personally") speaks to the issues you mentioned.

Although one's relationship with Jesus Christ IS personal, that does not necessarily make it private. For one to say that God was with US today would probably lend to the argument of downplaying the other side's faith; but, to acknowledge God's Hand in one's individual successes is not "hypocritical" in and of itself. That would have to be determined on an individual case basis...and sometimes in the "realm of competition", with emotions strongly involved, it may be quickly spoken in a different manner than if a little more time and thought were given...especially by those who may be deemed still "young in the faith".

For those of us who recognize Jesus Christ as our Lord, we also recognize that there is not only a personal relationship, but also a "public calling", chat and to be able to have a national venue in order to express our gratitude (as Pujols also had, even though not a victor in THIS realm of competition) would be a great honor. I would hope that this explanation (desiring to be "non-preachy" Wink) would help take away some of the corniness. Smile
BullFighter15BullFighter1510+ posts
I agree with the fact that players should not bring religion into a game after they have won, in this case, why dont they deny God when they lose? As if God really cares about something so insignificant as a sporting event. It is one thing to thank God for allowing you to be in the position to accomplish things, which Schilling also did in his post-game, on-field interview, but honestly, can we stop thanking God for a win? I think God has bigger things to deal with. JMO
itsinthegameitsinthegame5,000+ posts
IMO - I dont understand why anyone would care what Curt Shillings' beliefs are.

Its sorta like talking about Jane Fonda's political beliefs or Deion Sanders religious stance.

They are all pretty much self absorbed clowns that need public attention - in addition to vast gobs of money.

May I add (LOL) - I really dont think the Supreme Being cares about Curt Shilling's fastball.

Curt thinks he does - and good for him.

I just wish he (Curt - not the Supreme Being LOL) would shut his ever widening blowhole.
O Orlando1,000+ posts
I agree with PAMom. I believe one's relationship with God is intensely personal, and wonder what is being accomplished by these testimonials.

The Diety is frequently thanked after sporting events; it was once more common with boxing and football (which I found rather odd, given the nature of those sports) than baseball.

Our Albert has been public with his beliefs, including the time he maintained that it was 'in God's plan' for his contract to be somewhat richer. That sort of thing, as well as tantrums, trash talking, and/or headhunting by players who choose to advertise their status with God certainly does lead some of us to questions.

I remember the story some years ago (when few players had the habit), a batter crossing himself at the plate. The pitcher then did likewise, and called out, "Now who's he going to help!"

Feeling uncomfortable with or questioning the practice of athletes' being publically demonstrative about their faith in no way implies that faith is less important to the questioner. (As I have heard from people of similiar public proclivity when this view is expressed).

I also agree with its -- hearing their religious beliefs is quite the same as hearing their political ones. Would people who feel the same way as Curt does about religion applaud his right if he chose that time to express an opposing political view?
ChillChill1,000+ posts
Its...
I love your
consistancy!

Orlando...
I remember the story some years ago (when few players had the habit), a batter crossing himself at the plate. The pitcher then did likewise, and called out, "Now who's he going to help!"
That is perfect!

And PAMom

I agree...You don't have to talk the talk if you are walking the walk.
If a player can hit - He will show us!
If a player can pitch - He will show us!

Likewise about faith.
PAmomPAmom1,000+ posts
Oh for HEAVEN'S SAKE!!! Roll Eyes I KNEW not editing my post was a mistake and that it would be misinterpreted! I did not imply that SCHILLING is insincere or hypocritical. I happen to love the guy, media hound that he is notwithstanding! I am just sick and tired of athletes, in GENERAL, proselytizing in their moment of glorious victory. It just rarely comes across well to ME, even when I KNOW that the remarks are most likely heartfelt and sincere. A sporting event is not the Crusades.

By the way, I thank God EVERY day of my life...just so you know I'm NOT advocating secularism...GEEZ!

Thank you Orlando and Chill...you both said it better than I...

Oh, PS to Orlando: Schilling on "Good Morning America" today at the end of his interview: "Everyone get out and vote...VOTE BUSH!" laugh
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TRhitTRhit10,000+ posts
Question:

Do the losers give the same testimony when they lose or are they just not "favored sons"?

Who do they credit for their losing if the winners credit the Lord for winning?


Also keep in mind that baseball players, for whatever the reason, are some of the most superstitious players in the world. I have had a player in my own dugout who carried a Voodoo Doll and it sat in the dugout every time he pitched. I hear that his college coach already has a seat on the team bus all prepared for the "doll".

Isn't it also a funny that Schilling did not have this same "image" whule winning in Arizona ! Was he utilizing the media in a great moment , 1e this season in Boston?
I itsagreatgame100+ posts
DaddyBo: There are at least two of us that gets it.

Itsinthegame: "The guy went out and pitched a baseball game. Big deal. He gets paid a lot of money to do just that. I find nothing admirable about that-other than the fact that he earned his keep-just like we all do."

Yeah, right, Its. No big deal at all. Nothing special. Done every day. Common occurance. Anyone can do it. Now tell us again what kind of worthless idiots the rest of us are.
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PlayersDadPlayersDadHSBBWeb Donor
Its: the Mets had a terrible season. The Red Sox have endured 86 years of agony. It sounds like you have deeper issues than the fact that an athlete "calls his shot" then produces or doesn't. Big deal. Why get your drawers in a wad over something like that? There are too many issues in our world today with ramifications that affect the entire planet to get so crazy about Curt Schilling.

PAMom et al: It always amazes me that if a follower of islam or some other religion, philosophy, ism, or belief does or says something in line with his/her beliefs, no one ever says anything. But if a Christian gives thanks to God for his talents lots of people are ready to pounce on the individual and disparage them for mentioning God in a public forum. Confused It's like the players who ascribed to the religion of Islam and refused to stand during the national anthem. People may not have liked the athlete's actions, but all I saw on media coverage was total sympathy to the athlete's beliefs. (Personal note: if our country is so terrible, why are you here? Why not go back to your own country where you will be happier? Don't come here and expect us to change our way of life to accomodate you). Sorry, just a bit of digression. I really don't mind as long as everyone is treated equally.

Lastly, to All: PLEASE VOTE ON NOV. 2! Smile
DaddyBoDaddyBo100+ posts
With the understanding that discussions of faith in any form make some uncomfortable (see the use of the terms "deity" and "supreme being"), I will try to respond to some of the posters' points...hopefully without being too irritating. Wink

BULLFIGHTER...
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I agree with the fact
...what you stated was not "fact".
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As if God really cares about something so insignificant as a sporting event.

God may not care about a particular sporting event's outcome, but he does care about His people, who are participating in a very significant event in their life...their career and passion.

ORLANDO...
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'in God's plan' for his contract to be somewhat richer. That sort of thing, as well as tantrums, trash talking, and/or headhunting by players who choose to advertise their status with God certainly does lead some of us to questions

God does have a plan for people's lives...some desire to find it and seek it more readily than others, and some do make mistakes in the way they vocalize their revelations. Human nature is still a mighty powerful force in one's everyday decision making. duel
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Feeling uncomfortable with or questioning the practice of athletes' being publically demonstrative about their faith in no way implies that faith is less important to the questioner.
It does imply that! It may not be true but, by the definition of the word "imply", it does give that appearance.

CHILL...
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I agree...You don't have to talk the talk if you are walking the walk.
If a player can hit - He will show us!
If a player can pitch - He will show us!

Likewise about faith.

Players hit/pitch an inanimate baseball...faith is an "unseen" personal relationship. Just because I show proper respect, use manners, treat her kindly, should I then be excluded (or even prevented) from telling my wife that I love her...even in front of other people? Eek Believe this or not, but a Christian's first love is (or at least should be) Jesus Christ. To expect one not to express that love in a public forum is not realistic.

PAMOM...
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I did not imply that SCHILLING is insincere or hypocritical.
Maybe you did not intend to imply but, by the placement of your initial post immediately after the "Schill a Christian" reference...and by the definition of "imply", you did. Wink
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proselytizing in their moment of glorious victory.
Proselytizing is the act of trying to convert...this, in almost all cases, is not what is going on. Frown An act of gratitude is being displayed...usually simple as that (no Crusades).

ITSINTHEGAME...
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How about Curt talks about baseball and the Red Sox. How about he talks about playing through injury - and his teammates.
I believe that his faith might be a big part of all those things you mentioned. Razz If he talks of any length on any of those issues, he would probably want to express his faith in regards to how it has helped him...as he is asked often. I think that faith among some of his other teammates is probably a contributing factor to the great team chemistry that has been talked about so much...and for your personal benefit, I believe that was also a factor in some of the immediate past Yankee championship teams. Smile

TRHIT...
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Do the losers give the same testimony when they lose or are they just not "favored sons"?

Who do they credit for their losing if the winners credit the Lord for winning?
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Isn't it also a funny that Schilling did not have this same "image" whule winning in Arizona ! Was he utilizing the media in a great moment , 1e this season in Boston?

Again, most cases, gratitude to God is being given for "giving me this opportunity", "helping me to perform"...the "thanks for giving us this victory" is a little bit of misspeak, as addressed earlier. Christian "losers" should, and do, give thanks for being in that position (all of life is a learning experience)...but the positive emotions always get more air time.
Regarding Arizona...not quite sure about that one but one explanation could be that spritual growth, like physical growth, is a maturing process...and Schill is "relatively young" as a Christian. Because of this, he may not have been as outspoken...and because of this, he may make some mistakes when speaking (like many 7 yr-olds). noidea

Well, that was fun but, in conclusion...I understand that many do not understand exactly what different people's faiths might entail (I know I don't). We all go to sporting events yelling, making idiots of ourselves sometimes, over our allegiances...yet Christians are expected to keep quiet about the most important relationship we have? Please do not be offended that this will never happen.
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itsinthegameitsinthegame5,000+ posts
Daddybo,

I understand your perspective. I just dont think it is appropriate for people to talk about God and baseball in the same breath.

To me - it is ridiculous and borderline sacriligious.

I am a Christian, and I would never demean my faith by implying that God cared about my ERA or batting average.

Just my opinion - which Im sure many wont agree with.
FrankFFrankF1,000+ posts
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I am a Christian, and I would never demean my faith by implying that God cared about my ERA or batting average.


I'm sure you didn't mean it like it sounds as I personally can't imagine God not caring about EVERY facet of my life. Whether that equates into having a good ERA or BA to me is irrelavent. I also agree that actions speak louder than words. The one aspect I liked about the Shilling interview was that he didn't pray that God would give him a win or do great, just strength to get through it.

My .02 worth.
O Orlando1,000+ posts
PlayersDad, if you haven't seen negative coverage or references to the faith-based actions by players other than Christians, such as the Islamic faith (who, by the way, can be US born citizens), then I might suggest you've been a bit limited in your reading and viewing. There was even some public criticism over Green's refusing to play on Yom Kippur, given that the Dodgers were in a pennant race.

Further, I'm as confused as its (an accomplishment, that Wink) over the comments on 'deeper issues' and 'go crazy'. We're having a discussion about athletes and their public comments regarding God, their faith, and/or religion. Grownups do that (have discussions, that is); it's allowed...nobody's breakin' a sweat here.

DaddyBo, I wasn't suggesting God did not have a plan for anyone's life. What I DID say was that (for example) Pujols' saying that God's plan included his turning down $6 mil a year because God wanted him to have $7 mil a year was an example of why fans (like myself) look askance at these appeals to the Diety. (Render unto Caesar....) I'm thinking he was convinced of that Plan by his minister who is in line for the tithe and that God was not at all involved.

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Feeling uncomfortable with or questioning the practice of athletes' being publically demonstrative about their faith in no way implies that faith is less important to the questioner.
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It does imply that! It may not be true but, by the definition of the word "imply", it does give that appearance.


If you want semantics, you inferred that Wink; I was saying it was not implied. My point was simply to try to avoid the response of "ah, because you do not publically proclaim it, you are not a believer, and therefore can not understand". Nope.

I think a great deal more of people who live the Golden Rule than those who are seen to thank God. Sometimes these two characteristics are to be found in the same person. Alas, I have far too much experience with those who find the words infinitely easier than the principles.

Christianity is over 2000 years old; Protestantism, about 350. The remarks by athletes are an exceedingly recent phenomenon. With the importance some of you are placing on their testimonials, it's surprising the religion managed to last so long without them.
C caught_looking100+ posts
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Originally posted by DaddyBo:
Well, that was fun but, in conclusion...I understand that many do not understand exactly what different people's faiths might entail (I know I don't). We all go to sporting events yelling, making idiots of ourselves sometimes, over our allegiances...yet Christians are expected to keep quiet about the most important relationship we have? Please do not be offended that this will never happen.:

You seem to have all the answers and you easily disagree with other Christians who doubt that God might have interest in a ball game or who wins the W.S. It seems to give you a sense of superiority to act as though you have some "inside information" on this topic. The fact is, you don't. You have a set of beliefs as do many other people in this country. Does everyone have the same set of beliefs? Of course not. Even within the same religion there are different interpertations of beliefs and scripture

You say that Christians are expected to keep quiet about their religion. Jeez, last time I checked this is a free country and you can certainly pray to any higher power of your choice. I think you're missing the point that some posters are trying to make here. First I hope you understand that Christians aren't singled out in this regard. I wouldn't want to see Muslims, Jews or anyone else discuss there faith in the context of a post game interview.

I honestly feel that there is something cheap about it. To me it comes across as just another commercial. And God does know, there are already too many commercials during the World Series. There are too many commercial breaks, too many in-game bottom of the screen programing notes, too many sponsors adding there names in places where it's distracting and too many camera shots of people in the stands who I don't recognize. I really just want to see the ball game and I want the players to talk about the game and their team wnen they're interviewed. No need for religion, politics, sexual preferences, enviromental concerns, boxers vs briefs....etc.
itsinthegameitsinthegame5,000+ posts
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Originally posted by Teacherman:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by itsinthegame:
Daddybo,

I just dont think it is appropriate for people to talk about God and baseball in the same breath.

QUOTE]

I know what you mean. I hate it when athletes say "Hi Mom" during an interview. Especially if its a baseball player. What are they thinking? This is a baseball interview.


Teach,

Embarassing, again. What exactly does that have to do with the subject at hand?

Please - the least you can do is stay on topic.
Embarassing dude. Try again - but read carefully - think a little - and give it a go.
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DaddyBoDaddyBo100+ posts
Orlando and Caught Looking...
Great points and well taken. Smile Orlando, the imply/infer is nitpicking on my part as they mostly go hand in hand, depending on whose giving/receiving. I would hope that you would see, after rereading my response re: Pujols, that I was agreeing with you to some extent (how people search and express their findings on God's plan).
Caught...the "better than you" card is offbase and is too easily played in these types of discussions, creating immediate chasms between posters. I did not mean to imply Winkany superiority complex...my apologies.

Its...I was trying my best not to offend you. I will do as you ask.
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L luvthgame10+ posts
Whew..........i didn't quite know what a can of worms my observation would open...
I simply noticed Schilling was not a God fearing soul "until" they reached the postseason... and from my personal perspective... [which i'm sure to some of you doesn't account for anything]he sure did pour it on thick once the post season was in full swing... I just thought he didn't seem to be tooooooo genuine...JMO
I just think that bringing relgion into sports should be private and not preached! AGain...JMO
MN-MomMN-MomHSBaseballWeb Owner
DaddyBo,

I think you did a good job of explaining what many believers, including some pro athletes, feel called to do - to learn and grow in their faith, and then to show and tell - show their love, and tell where it came from. If either of my boys ever are in the public eye for some accomplishment, I do expect that they will be thankful for God's blessings, since as a family we do believe that that's where we get all the good stuff from. And if they have it in their hearts or minds to speak of that thankfulness, I hope that they will not shy away from doing so because they think someone might be put off by their words.
FutureBack.MomFutureBack.Mom1,000+ posts
MN-Mom ...
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since as a family we do believe that that's where we get all the good stuff from

as well as the strength to get through the not-so-good-stuff

From my personal perspective, I think that was part of what Curt Schilling was trying to say during the one post-game interview I saw. Though I realize some people figure these professionals are paid to play through the pain (in his case, what appeared to be a pretty painful ankle injury), playing under those physical circumstances, for me, is someting to be admired and respected. It was my perception that in the interview I saw, Mr Schilling was expressing his thanks for the ability to endure the discomfort.

I too appreciate what DaddyBo had to say and his efforts at trying to express the viewpoints of many of us "fundamentalist" or "evangelical" Christians, without trying to offend or appear "holier than thou". If that is the way he came across ... well, a lot is in the eye of the beholder ... and I know from personal communications with DaddyBo that that was not his intention.

The bottom line, it seems to me, is that no matter whether Mr Schilling was perceived to be talking "smack" about the Yankees or whether he was perceived to be talking insincere personal testimony ... he isn't going to "win" in this thread. But it has been interesting to read everybody's views ... no matter how they were stated ... on a very personal subject.
MN-MomMN-MomHSBaseballWeb Owner
BBM,

" as well as the strength to get through the not-so-good-stuff "

Absolutely. I didn't see Schilling's interview, but it would make sense that he would talk about being given the strength to get through that. What a special accomplishment for him not only to "play through the pain" as I'm sure many athletes have done many times, but to be able to focus and perform at the outstanding level he needed to at the same time. As a pitcher parent I could "feel his pain" while he was hanging in there in the final game he pitched, and OH MAN, I couldn't believe when two errors were made on what should have been the final out of his last inning. But he showed his typical class by not reacting to the errors, just keeping on doing what he needed to, and then congratulating his teammates as they walked off the field together. What an example for young pitchers!
MN-MomMN-MomHSBaseballWeb Owner
caught_looking,

Actually I have not expressed a strong opinion about Schilling's interview. I have made two posts in this thread:

One is addressed to Daddy Bo, starting with "I think you did a good job of explaining what many believers, including some pro athletes, feel called to do...". I shared with DaddyBo a little encouragement and support because I had noticed some critical posts addressed to him, and I also shared a personal opinion that I hope my boys would not be afraid to speak of their beliefs or thankfulness.

My second post was a reply to BBM, a nice baseball mom who had just addressed a post to me. I started by saying "I didn't see Schilling's interview, but it would make sense that he would talk about being given the strength to get through that." In other words, I wasn't there but the reports I've heard sound good to me. Then I shared a pretty strong opinion in favor of Schilling's great performance on the mound, which I did see and really enjoyed.

If you're still interested in analyzing what I've said, please read through my posts again. I don't think you will find any place where I have attacked or criticized anyone here, or tried to dictate how anyone else should conduct themselves in public or in private. I sent a message of support to DaddyBo, without attacking his critics. I said I hoped my boys would feel comfortable saying what was in their hearts (although I wouldn't be disappointed if they chose not to, depending on what they thought was fitting for the circumstance - it's their choice). And I publicly applauded a great athletic performance. Some posters I have had friendly discussions with in the past have expressed dissenting opinions, and I believe they have the right to do so.
C caught_looking100+ posts
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Originally posted by MN-Mom:
I shared with DaddyBo a little encouragement and support because I had noticed some critical posts addressed to him...

But you were supporting his statements which were in defense of Schillings interview. An interview that you haven't seen. Whatever. Some people are never going to understand how these types of comments can be intrusive to the ball game and "in your face", "shove it down your throat", shameless "religious flag waving".
MN-MomMN-MomHSBaseballWeb Owner
caught_looking,

Since you mentioned the Schilling interview a couple of times in your posts addressed to me, I became curious and took a look for it. I think this one might be the one you were referring to:
http://bostondirtdogs.boston.com/Headline_Archives/2004/10/the_schilling_i.html


I found it really interesting reading, and enjoyed getting to know a little more about Schilling. I don't know, maybe this isn't the interview that caused controversy. Personally, I do support his right to say the things he said here. I am not saying that anyone else must share their personal beliefs publicly, or that if they don't, they must not have strong beliefs. But his statements here sounded sincere to me, and I personally appreciated the opportunity to read them.
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