DFW METRO SCOUT LEAGUE TRYOUTS 15U-18U

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Originally posted by cheapseats:
The top recruits are committing earlier and earlier each year ...

If you do a search on 2012 commits on hsbaseballweb you will find a few 2012's around the US that committed last fall/winter.

THIS LEAGUE IS FOR JUNIORS AND SENIORS!!!!!!!!!

kirk - didn't Ryan Ford play as a sophomore?

I don't understand the question? What does this have to do with Ryan Ford and 2 years ago?

If my memory is working, I believe Ryan Ford played in the Metro Scout League as a sophomore, just pointing out that this isn't the first year that sophomores have been in this junior/senior league.

I don't have an opinion one way or another as to whether 2013's should be in the league, just sayin it isn't new.

Again, what does that have to do with this year?
When Ryan played, as a soph, that was the first year of the MSL. MSL was looking for players. This year, they are not looking for players, they have more than they can use. MSL is about recuiting, I.E. juniors and seniors.

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Originally posted by kirk:
Again, what does that have to do with this year?
When Ryan played, as a soph, that was the first year of the MSL. MSL was looking for players. This year, they are not looking for players, they have more than they can use. MSL is about recuiting, I.E. juniors and seniors.

Kirk,

My sugguestion to you is to show up on Sunday and ask the 15-20 MLB affiliated scouts why they selected underclassmen to play in the league.

It always helps if you understand the selection process.

I just figured that the sophomores would be placed in the 16U group, since the 18U group was represented to be just juniors and seniors. Just wondering, not complaining.

I had this same questioned emailed to me this morning, must be an agenda. I just counted we have 3 2013's in the league. The only way to get in as a sophomore is to have a scout recommend them. We do not allow summer league coaches to recommend sophomores. We had over 150 invites from pro scouts and college coaches this year and to be honest I don't even look at them we just send them out. I do know in the past we had Ford, Bundy, Toth, and Jones play as sophomores. I also know that Dean was recommend as a freshman and a sophomore. And the scouts that recommended them were not wrong. I like what Ken said if you have a problem with this walk up to the scouts and asked them why they did it.

My apologies if my question offended....honestly, I was just wondering. This is new to us and I figured the best way to find out was to ask. Its of supreme indifference to me, since my son is a junior and is playing. I was just curious.

No Problem Sandrewgy I just state the facts. Sometimes I come across harsh but don't mean anything about it, don't have time to beat around the bush. I just tell it like it is. Trying to get kids signed. CG

Thanks, Cade. Really looking forward to tomorrow! How has the weather been? Hopefully it'll be all good on Sunday.

Don't mind 2013's playing up but I feel the invites (recommendations from coaches, etc) should be given the same opportunity or they should be informed that it would be a possibility to play up if they came to tryouts and were recommended by the scouts. We actually inquired about playing up and were told that it was not a possibility since it would take a spot away from a jr or sr that may still need to get a look. MSL at any age is still a great opportunity and my post is not meant to be a complaint, just a reply. See everyone tomorrow.

Just curious, of all the MSL roster spots, how may are filled the tryout route vs the recommendations/invites route?

This year was a little different then last year. Last year we had 20 spots and this year we had over 30 spots and we ended up taking around 35.

35 through the invites/recommendations? Interesting. If you add up all the people who "claim" they have 2-4 invite or recommendation slots, it seems like there is only room for about 20 tryout kids. Can't believe everything you hear I guess.

MSL Collegiate "Prospect League" was a joke today IMO. Some of the worst BBall I've seen since HS summer ball. Maybe three kids that should be in MSL, but the remaining would be lucky to make HS teams. And as far as scouts in attendance, Richland CC and Eastfield CC. Just expected more from MSL than this, very disappointing!!!!!

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Originally posted by LDinTheGap:
MSL Collegiate "Prospect League" was a joke today IMO. Some of the worst BBall I've seen since HS summer ball. Maybe three kids that should be in MSL, but the remaining would be lucky to make HS teams. And as far as scouts in attendance, Richland CC and Eastfield CC. Just expected more from MSL than this, very disappointing!!!!!

So guess we can assume your son was the one Richland and Eastfield was interested in? They did contact you didn't they?

For those of you who feel that the MSL wasn't all you thought it should be let me remind you that, even though your kid may be an above average ballplayer and used to playing in front of college and professional baseball scouts, that for some of these kids this is probably the first true opportunity that they have had to showcase their abilities. I believe in the next few weeks you will see a better quality baseball being played as these kids become accustomed to seeing so many radar guns and stop watches. Remember scouts are looking for players with a certain skill set that will determine if they are a prospect, not whether or not they booted a play in the field or struck out at the plate. I think you may have noticed that they didn't use the scoreboards and that's because the scouts are judging each kid individually and not the whole team. If you kid possesses the skills necessary for the next level of play then I believe that the MSL league is his best opportunity to be seen and possibly land up on some recruiter's radar. Good luck in the future.

Wondering what coach was there from Richland????

Dallas Spike: Guy Simmons new head coach.
Line Drive: the team at the Gabe was kids that did not make the MSL. I think have 4 or 5 colleges go watch them is a pretty good deal.

CBancroft, I agree. My son was a little nevrous, but now he knows what to expect. With MSL players are given the chance to be seen 5 times.
There were lots of scouts there, and can not think of another local venue that offers this for players. Well worth the money!

DITTO! Plus didnt have to drive 5 hours! Keep'em rolling, guys! Your doing a nice job in DFW!

This is our first experience with this type of league, and while it appeared that there were a few bugs to work out, that is to be expected the day of any season for any league. I was very pleased and impressed and am honored that my son was seen by someone as a player with the skills required to play in college or above and that we are able to give him the opportunity to participate at this level in such a nice venue. We are from a small town in northeast Oklahoma and opportunities such as this are not handed out freely. I know my son was very nervous before the in/out even started, but he did extremely well and put the bat on the ball every time he came to the plate. Even if he receives no offers, we are still tickled to have this opportunity and know that this will be a wonderful experience for him.

Also wondering if there will be more video posted, as was from the meeting on 9/5? If we could get a link, that would be great. Thanks.

SANDREWGY, You have a PM. HRKB

HRKB - Thanks!

Steel Cleats - We drove a bout 3.5 hrs, but worth it.

How many of you defending this were at the Gabe yesterday? And Catcher, I know the Howard bunch and unless they were hidding behind a telephone pole they were not there, just sayin!!Also wouldn't hurt to let the umpires know the game times and let the opponents know that this is a wood bat league!!

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Originally posted by catcher:
“He that can have Patience, can have what he will”
B. Frankiln

We are working on it folks...

Stay negative,

It's your business, but you might want to tone down the sarcasm with your money-payers, there, catch. These folk may already be on board this year, but don't forget - next year's prospects might be watching...


"The customer's not always right, but the customer is always the customer"

Like I said, UNLESS HE WAS HIDING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I like the sarcasm...and the facts...which I'm sure Catch has.
He's not making up names of people in attendance.
They write those things down you know.

I got reports from parents in the 18U and the 16U leagues
and both were very happy with the first week of games.

LDintheGap,

I'm sure your kid played in the event your doubting this past weekend. I would have been there but my duties took me another direction.

Since it sounds like you are wanting your son or someone you represent to get a look, give me his name.

I will personally email it to every college and professional scout I know. I can promise you that a good share of them will stop by and evaluate your son.

After, I will speak with each one to find out their thoughts and possibility of advancement through the college or professional ranks.

Since I assume you just want what is best for your son or whoever concerns you, this would ensure him/them an opportunity to be seen.

Don't pass this opportunity up for your son. Again, I can assure you a fair number of looks for your interest in particular. All I need is his name and his high school.

Fair enough? Just send me his name and high school.

Also, please include your name and contact info. to report evaluations.

Ken-

Why would he give up his name or the player's name? That would completely ruin this ridiculous thread.

Anonymous Regards.

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Originally posted by LDinTheGap:
Like I said, UNLESS HE WAS HIDING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You are so wrong about J BoB not being there, we talked for 30 minutes about one of my former players from Duncanville and how he is doing at Angelo State.

I'm not worried if the people in charge know who I am.I know Cade and Shayne.I was out this summer and watched your super team Ken, I have alot of friends on that team. My older son was invited to MSL in 08 and chose not to play. He was also invited in 09 and wisely chose to play. MSL was great and still is. Younger son had to tryout this year and was chosen to play in this " Prospect League". Had my doubts about this ,but having been a part of MSL last year went forward with it. Just trying to make sure I'm getting what was sold to me.

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Originally posted by LDinTheGap:
I'm not worried if the people in charge know who I am.I know Cade and Shayne.I was out this summer and watched your super team Ken, I have alot of friends on that team. My older son was invited to MSL in 08 and chose not to play. He was also invited in 09 and wisely chose to play. MSL was great and still is. Younger son had to tryout this year and was chosen to play in this " Prospect League". Had my doubts about this ,but having been a part of MSL last year went forward with it. Just trying to make sure I'm getting what was sold to me.

I assume you were sold an opportunity to play in an environment that lends your son the opportunity to be seen.

Well, I have insured you that opportunity. An opportunity to "get what was sold".

So far, you have falsely stated that one recruiter was not present when in fact he was.

You also have deemed "my" team as a "super team". I don't know how anything I was involved with last summer validates your concerns.

For now, I have insured your son the opportunity to be seen by a fair number of college and pro evaluators. It's up to you to "get what you are sold".

All you have do is get me the information I requested.

If in the fact that doesn't happen, all we can assume is you have an agenda.

Happy Day regards,

I don't recall YOU selling me anything. My son don't need YOUR help. If YOU indeed want to help, just get the scouts to the GABE like me and 29 other parents were promised and they will find him. GOOD DAY

LDGap,

I know who you are and I saw you on Sunday. I can also tell you this will not work out for you. I would call and get a refund today.

Thanks for the advise but we don't quit, we stay and get what we pay for. If you know me come say hi Sun.

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Originally posted by LDinTheGap:
I don't recall YOU selling me anything. My son don't need YOUR help. If YOU indeed want to help, just get the scouts to the GABE like me and 29 other parents were promised and they will find him. GOOD DAY

Never claimed YOU were sold anything by ME.

I'm confused, YOUR son doesn't need MY help but in your next sentence you state for ME to get THE scouts out to the Gabe.

I simply offered for YOUR son to get an opportunity to be seen. Just like what I assumed YOU were sold.

Again, all I need is the name of your son and your contact information.

Hopefully YOUR son doesn't miss this chance. Don't let your agenda get in the way of an opportunity for him.

ME regards,

Ken Guthrie aka Ken Guthrie

I have no agenda except get what you pay for. Thanks for the generous offer, but we will have to decline.