playbaseball
I still disgree---stats at the HS level are for parents bragging rights---the player could care less and so do college coaches---
You believe what you want but a college coach regardless of the level, I, II or III, makes his decision on what he sees in person not what he reads on paper
BOTTOM LINE: HS stats are for parents
quote:Originally posted by TRhit:
---the player could care less
Certainly not at all true of the serious HS players that I know. The only ones I know of who don't care are those who have no interest at all in playing beyond HS.
TEXAN
How wrong you are---if the kid is a "player" he knows what he is hitting--he doesn't need to see it in the papers or on a stat sheet---HE KNOWS !!!!!
How wrong you are---if the kid is a "player" he knows what he is hitting--he doesn't need to see it in the papers or on a stat sheet---HE KNOWS !!!!!
First you say a player "could care less" what his stats are. Then you say "if he is a "player" he knows what he is hitting". What is it he "knows"? If a player "knows what he is hitting", then he must have an idea about things like BA, Slugging Avg., OBA, etc. Those are call "stats". It doesn't matter whether they are recorded on paper or kept in the head. Either way they are stats.
So which is it?
Either he cares or he doesn't.
You say he doesn't care. You are wrong.
He cares.
So which is it?
Either he cares or he doesn't.
You say he doesn't care. You are wrong.
He cares.
TEXAN
Perhaps we here in the small Northeat speak a different language than you---caring about stats does not equate to knowing what they are doing---they have it in their head what they are doing they don't need the publicity of newspaper stats---I say again that is for parents
Let me ask you this ---do you have a son playing HS ball?
Perhaps we here in the small Northeat speak a different language than you---caring about stats does not equate to knowing what they are doing---they have it in their head what they are doing they don't need the publicity of newspaper stats---I say again that is for parents
Let me ask you this ---do you have a son playing HS ball?
playbb/tex - soo, here's how it goes down ..quote:by play baseball(my edit for clarification): But statistics DO matter---maybe not to those who are true prospects --- drivel drivel drivel "all-area" or "all-conference" drivel drivel drivel .. a pop or a pretzel...drivel drivel drivel.
drivel drivel ... Of course they know they aren't All-State material.
drivel drivel ... The scouts and coaches know the difference.
a) you come upon hsweb to gain insight on how things work
b) old timers with decades of collective experiece lay it out for you .. you argue
c) they lay it out again in a simpler form .. in disbelief you insist they're surely mistaken
d) the next step is for you to complete the hs experience with your current attitudes
e) then the final step is down the road when U return all worn down & frazzeled, splotches of hair falling out basicly looking like the "Grim Reaper" - BUT FINALLY ENLIGHTENED -
then YOU lay it out ... and the newbie argues with ALL Y'ALL
hope that helps .. not sure which one is Tex there hs aged both of em alot
Never confuse longevity with wisdom.
The rest of the babbling doesn't even merit a response.
The rest of the babbling doesn't even merit a response.
Huh??? Perhaps I missed something, am just confused, or havent had my 7th cup of coffee yet.
The last time I checked, everyone was allowed their own opinion.
Newbie or Old Timer,..either-or.
As far as, " stats are for parents bragging rights ",... in my experience, I couldnt disagree more.
As a matter of fact,..couldnt even tell ya what my kids stats are,..but I'm gonna have to figure that out and look it up because the college baseball profile questionaire he is filling out, ASKS FOR THEM!!!!
Gotta go on a wild goose chase to find that 13 year old stat keeper girl, who was petting everyone's puppy last season and talkin' on her cell phone. Lovely.
The last time I checked, everyone was allowed their own opinion.
Newbie or Old Timer,..either-or.
As far as, " stats are for parents bragging rights ",... in my experience, I couldnt disagree more.
As a matter of fact,..couldnt even tell ya what my kids stats are,..but I'm gonna have to figure that out and look it up because the college baseball profile questionaire he is filling out, ASKS FOR THEM!!!!
Gotta go on a wild goose chase to find that 13 year old stat keeper girl, who was petting everyone's puppy last season and talkin' on her cell phone. Lovely.
that's agreat thoughtquote:Never confuselongevityquantity withwisdomquality
And when you put stats in a questionnaire you better note who they played and the strength of the conference--- a 600 BA in one soft conference can be equal to a 400 in a strong conference
TEXAN===you are one intriguing fellow---
TEXAN===you are one intriguing fellow---
Thanks TR,..I'll be sure to remember that.
quote:by ssmom: couldnt even tell ya what my kids stats are,..but I'm gonna have to figure that out and look it up because the college baseball profile questionaire he is filling out, ASKS FOR THEM!!!!
TR says: when you put stats in a questionnaire you better note who they played and the strength of the conference
and Bee> asks: surely you will inform the coach that your stats were compiled by a 13 yr old chick who was preoccupied with puppies & phone calls .. & guys
(in Texas it'd be horses & phone calls .. & guys)
.
This is becoming a real "game" of one upmanship--offer advice and get derisive answers---too bad BEE I am too old for that kind of stuff-- I give my opionions and that is what this site is all about---why the attitude
Well,..Bee>,..now that ya brought it up.....
I have another question.
What should a parent do to insure the legitimacy of sons stats when a college asks? I was actually thinking of making a footnote notation explaining that these stats are a HUGE approximation. It may sound flakey,..but its honest.
I'm not one of those parents that hypes my kid up saying he's 6' 2" ( reality: 6' ),...weight 185 ( reality: 175 ) and has a 4.0 ( 3.8 ).
Not going to start now. He is what he is.
Pretty good ball player so far as I can tell. But his stats? I havent a clue. I know what he runs ( been to the showcases and have the papers ),..but ball game stats?? Not a clue!!!
Suggestions?
I have another question.
What should a parent do to insure the legitimacy of sons stats when a college asks? I was actually thinking of making a footnote notation explaining that these stats are a HUGE approximation. It may sound flakey,..but its honest.
I'm not one of those parents that hypes my kid up saying he's 6' 2" ( reality: 6' ),...weight 185 ( reality: 175 ) and has a 4.0 ( 3.8 ).
Not going to start now. He is what he is.
Pretty good ball player so far as I can tell. But his stats? I havent a clue. I know what he runs ( been to the showcases and have the papers ),..but ball game stats?? Not a clue!!!
Suggestions?
I'll type slower so you understand ..I agree hs stats aren't too important ..
TR makes a valid point re conference strength ..
the 13 yr old deal illustrated my point ..
and .. the only attitude here is a good attitude
all you can do is give em what they ask for, if you feel the need extra info give them an opposing coach's contact # (summer & HS)quote:by ssmom: What should a parent do to insure the legitimacy of sons stats when a college asks? ..
I'm not one of those parents that hypes my kid up saying hes 6'4" ( reality: 6' ),..
hint measure & weigh him in uniform .. unless he plays barefoot
Honesty & Ethics always causes a stir. Interesting stir but a stir none the less. I learned in pony league time frame to never ask about stats. As we say in our house just "See ball, hit ball, catchball" I always describe stats as the best of fiction writing sometimes. Example College coach calls high school coach after my son accepted his offer. Coach wanted to do press release and wanted my sons numbers for the release and any honors. Coach sent the college coach that my son hit 430 with "more doubles than singles" and 8 homeruns during his Junior season and was all district catcher his Junior year and honorable mention in all state. Actualy he hit in the high 300's and only had 5 HR and was all district catcher. College coach puts the press release together talking about his early signing. Son hit 460 with 10 HR and was all District his sophomore and Junior year. College head coach left before my son got to college to play. Picked up a media guide at the last game. Son hit 480 with 13 Home Runs. Was all district sophomore, junior and senior year, all state his Junior and Senior year and had lettered on Varsity for all 4 years. Even went on to tell how he had no passed ball since early in his Junior year. Intersting thing is I need to meet this kid.
TRhit and Texan:
I love you BOTH! BOTH of you have great things to share and a lot of insights for other posters to learn from. Oftentimes, they're two sides of the same coin.
But please....stop your squabbling! It's time to kiss and make up. No more insults, pretty please????
I love you BOTH! BOTH of you have great things to share and a lot of insights for other posters to learn from. Oftentimes, they're two sides of the same coin.
But please....stop your squabbling! It's time to kiss and make up. No more insults, pretty please????
I understand the whole concept of stats not being nearly as important as the players true preformance and raw talent. I get that.
( and it sort of takes me off the hook of feeling like a complete " parent-flake " for not knowing my own kids stats. )
So why do some colleges ask for stats?
To use as some sort of generalized guide?
I would assume that they take into consideration that not all programs have efficient scorekeepers,.....correct?
( and it sort of takes me off the hook of feeling like a complete " parent-flake " for not knowing my own kids stats.
)So why do some colleges ask for stats?
To use as some sort of generalized guide?
I would assume that they take into consideration that not all programs have efficient scorekeepers,.....correct?
Woops,..sorry Bee> you must type faster than me,..didn't see your below response to my question.
THANK YOU for your suggestions!!!
....but about that measuring him in uniform thing,....hmmmmmmmm............
quote:all you can do is give em what they ask for, if you feel the need extra info give them an opposing coach's contact # (summer & HS)
hint measure & weigh him in uniform .. unless he plays barefoot
THANK YOU for your suggestions!!!
....but about that measuring him in uniform thing,....hmmmmmmmm............
dam, ya gotta hate that they left out that Nobel Peace nominationquote:by aabaseball: went on to tell how he had no passed balls since early in his Junior year. intersting thing is I need to meet this kid
There is another side of HS stats that is not recruiting related but does emphasis honesty and ethics in scorekeeping .
My sons HS keeps yearly and career team and individual (record) stats. While he could give a hoot today about what his numbers were, I'm sure he would like others at his school to challenge those numbers as team and/or individual goals. He did, as well as his HS team. The HS coach uses these numbers as motivation and comparisons and he stands behind their authenticity as a result.
While many college questionaires ask for HS stats, I'm with most here who say they are not a factor. However, with that said, I'm a firm believer that any information is better than none, and how you use that data is whats important. Depending on the college, sometimes the volume of these questionaires requires that recruiting coordinators "weed out" some that may not fit their "need".
For instance,
One form may indicate 2 years of varsity experience, 60 ip/each year, and 4:1 k/bb
One form may indicate 20 innings of varsity experience in 2 years.
Would one of these open your eyes more than the other?
My sons HS keeps yearly and career team and individual (record) stats. While he could give a hoot today about what his numbers were, I'm sure he would like others at his school to challenge those numbers as team and/or individual goals. He did, as well as his HS team. The HS coach uses these numbers as motivation and comparisons and he stands behind their authenticity as a result.
While many college questionaires ask for HS stats, I'm with most here who say they are not a factor. However, with that said, I'm a firm believer that any information is better than none, and how you use that data is whats important. Depending on the college, sometimes the volume of these questionaires requires that recruiting coordinators "weed out" some that may not fit their "need".
For instance,
One form may indicate 2 years of varsity experience, 60 ip/each year, and 4:1 k/bb
One form may indicate 20 innings of varsity experience in 2 years.
Would one of these open your eyes more than the other?
Since I started this I figured I'd better respond. First, I am over it and can't worry about something I can't control. However, you will never convince me that stats are not important. They DO matter. These are not judgement calls one way or another. Where one person would see it one way and another differently. They were clearly errors, routine plays that any HS player should make. No hot shots, no bad hops, nothing but errors. Then when the stats come out they are changed. None of these in any which way whatsoever efffect my son. He was 0-1 with 2 walks and an HBP. Even the dropped fly ball did not effect his pitching line except for another hit that he didn't give up. There were no runs attributed to the ROUTINE fly ball that was dropped.
So I am not a parent who is trying to make his son look better. The kid can play and he's a lefthanded pitcher and a good student. He will get his shot one day I have little doubt of that.
I will always know in my mind how he played that day and so will he. He doesn't need stats to do that. However, when someone who wasn't at the games or a friend wants to know why this kids average is 200pts higher than everyone elses. What should the answer be? They cheat. He would never say anything bad about another kid. Always talks his teammates up. Which is as it should be. But when a coach fills out a battting order because of tainted averages or plays one kid over another and points to the book. This will happen I guarantee it and then what should a kid say? The stats are wrong. The coach will say it's just sour grapes and the kid will be looked at as not a team player, when all he is really asking for is a level playing field.
So I am not a parent who is trying to make his son look better. The kid can play and he's a lefthanded pitcher and a good student. He will get his shot one day I have little doubt of that.
I will always know in my mind how he played that day and so will he. He doesn't need stats to do that. However, when someone who wasn't at the games or a friend wants to know why this kids average is 200pts higher than everyone elses. What should the answer be? They cheat. He would never say anything bad about another kid. Always talks his teammates up. Which is as it should be. But when a coach fills out a battting order because of tainted averages or plays one kid over another and points to the book. This will happen I guarantee it and then what should a kid say? The stats are wrong. The coach will say it's just sour grapes and the kid will be looked at as not a team player, when all he is really asking for is a level playing field.
quote:However, when someone who wasn't at the games or a friend wants to know why this kids average is 200pts higher than everyone elses. What should the answer be?
If thats what they say it is then that's what they say it is. Enjoy the game
He would never say anything bad about another kid. Always talks his teammates up. Which is as it should be. But when a coach fills out a battting order because of tainted averages or plays one kid over another and points to the book.
If a coach has to look at a book to justify his order then there are problems in the coaches box and not the box score
This will happen I guarantee it and then what should a kid say? The stats are wrong. The coach will say it's just sour grapes and the kid will be looked at as not a team player, when all he is really asking for is a level playing field.
I think you are putting to much into what happens within a team. Sit back and enjoy the game as a fan and parent. The HS career is to short and what happens during it becomes "old news". If there are the issues you speak of, every one is probably aware of them.
a little time at the cage for your son, & for U some time at the field with a rake & paintbrush ..quote:a friend wants to know why this kids average is 200pts higher than everyone elses ... coach fills out a battting order because of tainted averages or plays one kid over another and points to the book. What should the answer be?
his average will be up there in no time
I'm tired of being told to sit back and enjoy the game. THAT is a GIVEN. I will enjoy it. It will be fun to watch them get better and hopefully continue to play.
The issues are real, there is a problem with coaching and the kids that get better will do so inspite of the coaches. Of course the coaches will get the credit though.
There are probably 2 types of parents. One's that want to know what there sons ability really is and then the other ones who want the coaches to give their kid everything especially in the stats. This way Johnny looks great. Who cares if he can really play.
Myself I just want a game to be scored as it should be. You know what I'm going to say if asked to score again. Sure I will but on one condition, that my word is final nothing gets changed. You think they will agree? No way no how then they wouldn't be able to make their favorites look good. Please don't tell me that the coach knows best. In this situation not a chance.
The issues are real, there is a problem with coaching and the kids that get better will do so inspite of the coaches. Of course the coaches will get the credit though.
There are probably 2 types of parents. One's that want to know what there sons ability really is and then the other ones who want the coaches to give their kid everything especially in the stats. This way Johnny looks great. Who cares if he can really play.
Myself I just want a game to be scored as it should be. You know what I'm going to say if asked to score again. Sure I will but on one condition, that my word is final nothing gets changed. You think they will agree? No way no how then they wouldn't be able to make their favorites look good. Please don't tell me that the coach knows best. In this situation not a chance.
You have no idea how much work we have done at the field. My son is the first one there and the last to leave. We were there putting the tarp on for the winter, we were there removing it. Shoveling snow. However, he doesn't play football and that is where the averages change.
He doesn't need their help. He'll do it on his own fairly.
He doesn't need their help. He'll do it on his own fairly.
bb1, arguably one of the very Top 18U national roster type summer teams with a roster of DI and pro draft prospects compiles NO stats, -0-.
no stats for the newspaper
no stats for college coaches
no stats for pro scouts
no stats for parents
no stats for the newspaper
no stats for college coaches
no stats for pro scouts
no stats for parents
Bee
Interesting that you make that note---we play from August to the end of October and we do not compile stats---we see no need for it--- we know who is hot and who isnt so we can make adjustments in the batting order---and you know I cannot recall a player asking me what his stats were
Interesting that you make that note---we play from August to the end of October and we do not compile stats---we see no need for it--- we know who is hot and who isnt so we can make adjustments in the batting order---and you know I cannot recall a player asking me what his stats were
I'm really confused. Really confused.
I'm not sure why some of you guys got all over me. Except that lately there has been an awful lot of bullying and nastiness on this board. I don't understand why that is-- could somebody tell me what is really going on around here? I suspect that there is more to this than meets the eye......
Bee>--Are you telling me that all of the "old timers" have the same collective experiences? Bee- I am an "old timer" according to this board. I can guarantee that my family's experience is quite different than YOUR family's experience. And I'd even bet that most of the members of this board--even the "old timers" --have experiences which are quite different from the others. Where was I arguing? I was relaying the experience that the insignificant schlubs have around here. Not the elite athletes and their elitist parents.
Are you also alluding to the idea that unless the HIGH SCHOOL student is a potential major league prospect or a major Division 1 prospect that we shouldn't read or post on this board? I would imagine that the membership list would be much smaller if that is the case. Or is that what you and others are trying to achieve?
Yes, Bee, I did "come upon the hsweb to gain insight on how things work". And guess what I discovered? That it works differently for different people. And we discovered that some of the baseball world is not a pretty world. That's the way it is from our perspective. We always suspected that it isn't pretty, but some of the stuff that we learned on this site confirmed it. We also learned a lot of excellent things, too. It's not a bad thing to be informed of the way it is. "Eyes wide open."
By the way, Bee, when you edited my post you decided that most of what I wrote was "drivel". There are two definitions for the word "drivel". The first is to let saliva dribble from the mouth. The second is to talk stupidly and carelessly. Since you couldn't possibly have seen anything dribble from my mouth while I was typing, you must certainly have meant that I was talking stupidly and carelessly. Really? Is this what you really think?
TR--My college son did get actual cash money to play baseball in college. And guess what, the coach never saw him play before offering him the money. Why did he get the money? I don't know, but we are very glad that he did. He is not a stud. He is not a prospect. Just a short kid who loves to play and is actually very good at it. I guess his high school coach gave the college coach some numbers. Maybe his statistics didn't matter, but the numbers that his high school coach gave him did.
By the way, please help my high school senior son fill out the college athletic profile sheet. He has no numbers to put down for this season because he is out with not one injury which required surgery, but two. Two surgeries within 5 months, each requiring extensive rehabilitation. Not sure what to put down where they ask for statistics. Or should he not even pursue playing in college because he, too, is short and not a stud? He's just a kid who is smart and loves the game of baseball and wants to play it for a little while longer. ???
I'm not sure why some of you guys got all over me. Except that lately there has been an awful lot of bullying and nastiness on this board. I don't understand why that is-- could somebody tell me what is really going on around here? I suspect that there is more to this than meets the eye......
Bee>--Are you telling me that all of the "old timers" have the same collective experiences? Bee- I am an "old timer" according to this board. I can guarantee that my family's experience is quite different than YOUR family's experience. And I'd even bet that most of the members of this board--even the "old timers" --have experiences which are quite different from the others. Where was I arguing? I was relaying the experience that the insignificant schlubs have around here. Not the elite athletes and their elitist parents.
Are you also alluding to the idea that unless the HIGH SCHOOL student is a potential major league prospect or a major Division 1 prospect that we shouldn't read or post on this board? I would imagine that the membership list would be much smaller if that is the case. Or is that what you and others are trying to achieve?
Yes, Bee, I did "come upon the hsweb to gain insight on how things work". And guess what I discovered? That it works differently for different people. And we discovered that some of the baseball world is not a pretty world. That's the way it is from our perspective. We always suspected that it isn't pretty, but some of the stuff that we learned on this site confirmed it. We also learned a lot of excellent things, too. It's not a bad thing to be informed of the way it is. "Eyes wide open."
By the way, Bee, when you edited my post you decided that most of what I wrote was "drivel". There are two definitions for the word "drivel". The first is to let saliva dribble from the mouth. The second is to talk stupidly and carelessly. Since you couldn't possibly have seen anything dribble from my mouth while I was typing, you must certainly have meant that I was talking stupidly and carelessly. Really? Is this what you really think?
TR--My college son did get actual cash money to play baseball in college. And guess what, the coach never saw him play before offering him the money. Why did he get the money? I don't know, but we are very glad that he did. He is not a stud. He is not a prospect. Just a short kid who loves to play and is actually very good at it. I guess his high school coach gave the college coach some numbers. Maybe his statistics didn't matter, but the numbers that his high school coach gave him did.
By the way, please help my high school senior son fill out the college athletic profile sheet. He has no numbers to put down for this season because he is out with not one injury which required surgery, but two. Two surgeries within 5 months, each requiring extensive rehabilitation. Not sure what to put down where they ask for statistics. Or should he not even pursue playing in college because he, too, is short and not a stud? He's just a kid who is smart and loves the game of baseball and wants to play it for a little while longer. ???
playbaseball
Obviously your HS coach talked about more than just stats---and perhaps the college coach got info from others who had seen him
My son got a great scholarship based on college coaches talking to each other and not being seen by the school that signed him
It is all about exposure
Obviously your HS coach talked about more than just stats---and perhaps the college coach got info from others who had seen him
My son got a great scholarship based on college coaches talking to each other and not being seen by the school that signed him
It is all about exposure
play baseball is one of our most distinguished and nicest members we have here. I don't think it is right to bully her.
Look, everyone is entitled to their opinion. It would be nice if we could stick to commenting on the topic at hand rather than picking apart someone elses view. People are smart enough on their own to figure out what is and what is not good advice imho.
Look, everyone is entitled to their opinion. It would be nice if we could stick to commenting on the topic at hand rather than picking apart someone elses view. People are smart enough on their own to figure out what is and what is not good advice imho.
Honesty and Ethics in score keeping is like military intelligence, jumbo shrimp and pretty ugly. A few words that don't always go together.I think there should be a rule in baseball that no parent of the pitcher on the mound can keep score. It's the only time a ball thrown over the backstop can be a pass ball and not a wild pitch. And to playball, if your son wants to play, give it a shot. He just needs to realize that he probably won't play at a big D-1. As for as stats. Tell the truth. He doesn't have stats because he was out for surgery.
My son was indeed on the mound that day. The only play that effected his stats were a player related to the coach dropping a fly ball after he camped under it. No big deal. It was one hit. His line 5 innings one earned run, 8k's.
What I am talking about is not HIS stats. Everyone's stats. Kids are getting hits if they reach base, it's a hit. I'm sorry but not everything is a hit because you got on and it seems that is the way they score for our team. If it is an error on us then it usually stays and error unless of course you are related to a coach. Then it is impossible for you to screw up.
Most parents I know that keep score are harder on their own kids then any other. This avoids any look of favoritism.
What I am talking about is not HIS stats. Everyone's stats. Kids are getting hits if they reach base, it's a hit. I'm sorry but not everything is a hit because you got on and it seems that is the way they score for our team. If it is an error on us then it usually stays and error unless of course you are related to a coach. Then it is impossible for you to screw up.
Most parents I know that keep score are harder on their own kids then any other. This avoids any look of favoritism.
bb1
why are you pursuing this---honesty and ethics when you have kids keeping score as best they can---lets get real---what they put in the book DOES NOT change the score and isnt that ALL THAT COUNTS!!!!
why are you pursuing this---honesty and ethics when you have kids keeping score as best they can---lets get real---what they put in the book DOES NOT change the score and isnt that ALL THAT COUNTS!!!!
playbb, you have a great fan in CD & he has slapped me a good one
sorry I didn't get back sooner, work got in the way
also, took a course in colors so as not to be left in the dust
by pbb: I'm an "old timer" according to this board. I can guarantee that my family's experience is quite different than YOUR family's experience
you sound so young, but I agree
by pbb: Are you also alluding to the idea that unless the HIGH SCHOOL student is a potential major league prospect or a major Division 1 prospect that we shouldn't read or post on this board?
huh?? where did I say that? .. no, quite the opposite .. studs are faced with rows of open doors, why do they need this site?
by pbb: I did "come upon the hsweb to gain insight on how things work". And guess what I discovered? That it works differently for different people. And we discovered that some of the baseball world is not a pretty world.
sorry you were exposed to the real world ... aaand, you never told your children about that real world? anyway, why worry about things you can't control?
by pbb: There are two definitions for the word "drivel". The first is to let saliva dribble from the mouth. The second is to talk stupidly and carelessly. Since you couldn't possibly have seen anything dribble from my mouth while I was typing, you must certainly have meant that I was talking stupidly and carelessly. Really? Is this what you really think?
gee, I'll have to defer to your judgement on that one ...
BUT, ya might want to consider the following while wiping the egg (& drivel if applicable) from your face -
"drivel": Synonyms: babble, balderdash, blather, gibberish, gobbledygook, hogwash, hooey, jabber, nonsense, poppycock, tripe, & twaddle
my intent was along the lines of balderdash, hooey, &/or poppycock, but I would also consider gobbledgook
by pbb: Not sure what to put down where they ask for statistics. Or should he not even pursue playing in college because he, too, is short and not a stud? He's just a kid who is smart and loves the game of baseball and wants to play it for a little while longer. ???
if you actually read what's posted you'll find most knowlegable websters believe that there is a place in college somewhere for almost any dedicated high school baseball player. also that most posters bust their buts to give good advice to help them find that spot - only to be argued with
ps - if you're rehabbing from an injury, ya may want to tell the coach exactly that
btw, congrats on your older son
Bee>
pps - I honestly did not know U were a mom, my intent is always helpful, to promote some thinking .. hope it's not too sugary
sorry I didn't get back sooner, work got in the way
also, took a course in colors so as not to be left in the dustby pbb: I'm an "old timer" according to this board. I can guarantee that my family's experience is quite different than YOUR family's experience
you sound so young, but I agree
by pbb: Are you also alluding to the idea that unless the HIGH SCHOOL student is a potential major league prospect or a major Division 1 prospect that we shouldn't read or post on this board?
huh?? where did I say that? .. no, quite the opposite .. studs are faced with rows of open doors, why do they need this site?
by pbb: I did "come upon the hsweb to gain insight on how things work". And guess what I discovered? That it works differently for different people. And we discovered that some of the baseball world is not a pretty world.
sorry you were exposed to the real world ... aaand, you never told your children about that real world? anyway, why worry about things you can't control?
by pbb: There are two definitions for the word "drivel". The first is to let saliva dribble from the mouth. The second is to talk stupidly and carelessly. Since you couldn't possibly have seen anything dribble from my mouth while I was typing, you must certainly have meant that I was talking stupidly and carelessly. Really? Is this what you really think?
gee, I'll have to defer to your judgement on that one ...
BUT, ya might want to consider the following while wiping the egg (& drivel if applicable) from your face -
"drivel": Synonyms: babble, balderdash, blather, gibberish, gobbledygook, hogwash, hooey, jabber, nonsense, poppycock, tripe, & twaddle
my intent was along the lines of balderdash, hooey, &/or poppycock, but I would also consider gobbledgook
by pbb: Not sure what to put down where they ask for statistics. Or should he not even pursue playing in college because he, too, is short and not a stud? He's just a kid who is smart and loves the game of baseball and wants to play it for a little while longer. ???
if you actually read what's posted you'll find most knowlegable websters believe that there is a place in college somewhere for almost any dedicated high school baseball player. also that most posters bust their buts to give good advice to help them find that spot - only to be argued with
ps - if you're rehabbing from an injury, ya may want to tell the coach exactly that
btw, congrats on your older son
Bee>
pps - I honestly did not know U were a mom, my intent is always helpful, to promote some thinking .. hope it's not too sugary
When I first found this site I thought it would be great to learn from the experiences of others. I am no longer so sure. It appears that anything that is posted eventually turns into a arguement or a put-down. I'm truly sorry that I have been associated with this. Thank you to the people who do try to help to the rest. I will not even comment as to what they should do.
Things should always be kept on a positive note and if you don't have something that will benefit the question asked then please do not answer. Don't tell me the score is the only thing that counts because it is not. It is about the kids, not me, not you but them. I think if we asked them what they thought they would tell us to shut up.
They do know the stats, just like they know their GPA's. I believe every kid would want the scoring to be on the up and up and when the adults get involved that is when things are changed. Not because of some 12yr old girl keeping score.
Things should always be kept on a positive note and if you don't have something that will benefit the question asked then please do not answer. Don't tell me the score is the only thing that counts because it is not. It is about the kids, not me, not you but them. I think if we asked them what they thought they would tell us to shut up.
They do know the stats, just like they know their GPA's. I believe every kid would want the scoring to be on the up and up and when the adults get involved that is when things are changed. Not because of some 12yr old girl keeping score.
bb1, you have a PM.
quote:by bb1: When I first found this site I thought it would be great to learn from the experiences of others. I am no longer so sure. It appears that anything that is posted eventually turns into a arguement or a put-down. I'm truly sorry that I have been associated with this.
ya got some kohones with that post, from someone who is always treated unfairly, who wants son's stats juiced so he can have his share of glory & news articles to send friends, who does not want to explain to friends why team-mates have better stats
Bee, I'm sure his stats wouldn't need to be juiced if others weren't. Which is exactly why I started this. I think a HS needs to get a reputation that their books are on the up and up. If that was to happen I'm sure it would benefit the kids in the long run with college coaches. I think we would be surprised as to the reaction of coaches knowing what they are seeing is correct and they don't have to read between the lines.
bee, is there something wrong with wanting things done right? Don't believe that there is...