I'm 15 nad I haven't done the radar gun in years but I throw about 70. I am 5'7" 130 lb. How can I add velocity besides grow?
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Long toss is big. Also start lifting if you haven't (but find a good program for pitching, not just getting big).
Don't laugh..this really does work--
Practice throwing harder. That has been the biggest tool i have used with my pitchers. When they ask me how to improve their velocity I pull them aside and let them throw to get warmed up and thentell them the biggest secret of all- I say "OK, now I want you to throw harder. I usually have them throw in bursts of three building upon each one a little harder each time. The results have been amazing using this simple approach.
I always tell them that if they never practice throwing harder, they will never be able to throw harder- it is a skill that must be learned through practice.
What I have found is that when my pitcher actually tries to throw harder, his mechanics improve naturally on their own- their body moves quicker, they get more separation through their torso to upper body. It is amazing!
Practice throwing harder. That has been the biggest tool i have used with my pitchers. When they ask me how to improve their velocity I pull them aside and let them throw to get warmed up and thentell them the biggest secret of all- I say "OK, now I want you to throw harder. I usually have them throw in bursts of three building upon each one a little harder each time. The results have been amazing using this simple approach.
I always tell them that if they never practice throwing harder, they will never be able to throw harder- it is a skill that must be learned through practice.
What I have found is that when my pitcher actually tries to throw harder, his mechanics improve naturally on their own- their body moves quicker, they get more separation through their torso to upper body. It is amazing!
Long toss. It works because
1) you cannot throw at maximum distance unless you have good mechanics. So it reinforces proper mechanics through repetition. These (efficient) mechanics will keep your arm healthy and maximize velocity.
2) It also keeps your arm flexible as muscles and tendons air out.
3) It promotes arm speed. You can have the most efficient mechanics in the world, but without arm speed you will never throw 85+.
As someone else stated in another thread, it is a good idea to use bands to stabilize the shoulder and back and aid in the deceleration process. An arm is only as fast as it can stop.
My suggestion: Long-toss year round 3-4x week. Throw 5-6x week. Lift weights (no lat pulldowns or bench presses) especially concentrating on the lower half (legs). Get on a solid plyometric program for core strength and rotational efficiency, eat well, sleep right, and stay in tip-top cardio shape. Finally, get a qualified pitching coach to work with in the offseason to perfect your mechanics.
This is what has worked for Bum, Jr.
1) you cannot throw at maximum distance unless you have good mechanics. So it reinforces proper mechanics through repetition. These (efficient) mechanics will keep your arm healthy and maximize velocity.
2) It also keeps your arm flexible as muscles and tendons air out.
3) It promotes arm speed. You can have the most efficient mechanics in the world, but without arm speed you will never throw 85+.
As someone else stated in another thread, it is a good idea to use bands to stabilize the shoulder and back and aid in the deceleration process. An arm is only as fast as it can stop.
My suggestion: Long-toss year round 3-4x week. Throw 5-6x week. Lift weights (no lat pulldowns or bench presses) especially concentrating on the lower half (legs). Get on a solid plyometric program for core strength and rotational efficiency, eat well, sleep right, and stay in tip-top cardio shape. Finally, get a qualified pitching coach to work with in the offseason to perfect your mechanics.
This is what has worked for Bum, Jr.
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Wow, poosey. It is obvious that you don't approve. Do you have anything to offer in the commentary? How does your response help the poster?
We would love to hear your views on the matter.
I find that Bum's and Gingerbreadman's post to be quite helpful & insightful. I also have used the same methods and have had success.
Other than attacking Bum's post (who btw is trying to help), Do you have anything positive to offer? If you disagree can you do it and offer the other poster an alternative, or some help?
We would love to hear your views on the matter.
I find that Bum's and Gingerbreadman's post to be quite helpful & insightful. I also have used the same methods and have had success.
Other than attacking Bum's post (who btw is trying to help), Do you have anything positive to offer? If you disagree can you do it and offer the other poster an alternative, or some help?
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Yea, I read your blog. What a bunch of trash. Just another anonymous dipstick full of hate. You are also a liar. There is no useful baseball information on your blog just hate and stupidity. Nothing useful to baseball just more poosey. PU.
I knew you were not versed enough to talk baseball, you just flame. BTW, How many sites have you been banned from?
I knew you were not versed enough to talk baseball, you just flame. BTW, How many sites have you been banned from?
G'man is spot on target. One mandatory practice event to increase V is to pitch the ever-loving s*** out of the ball. Note how he prefaces this fundamental truth with "don't laugh". Why? Because most Sport Parents and their Sport Coaches can't see the forest for the trees. Surely there are Super Secret Thangs that lead to sporting glory! To prove that it is so, Sport Parents will shove hard earned, bread paying $$$$ for that Holy Gruel Of Super Secret Thangs.quote:Originally posted by Gingerbread Man:
Don't laugh..this really does work--
Practice throwing harder. That has been the biggest tool i have used with my pitchers. When they ask me how to improve their velocity I pull them aside and let them throw to get warmed up and thentell them the biggest secret of all- I say "OK, now I want you to throw harder. I usually have them throw in bursts of three building upon each one a little harder each time. The results have been amazing using this simple approach.
I always tell them that if they never practice throwing harder, they will never be able to throw harder- it is a skill that must be learned through practice.
What I have found is that when my pitcher actually tries to throw harder, his mechanics improve naturally on their own- their body moves quicker, they get more separation through their torso to upper body. It is amazing!
Super Secret Thangs include Super Secret lingo like "rotational efficiency"
or "contributory momentum" or " <his> routines builds those muscles/areas needed for best BASEBALL performance". So while Sport Parents write Sport Checks for Sporting Super Secret Thangs, and Sport Players long toss, beat tires with sledgehammers, do endless situps (let's not forget the Super Secret "Core"), have Sport Coaches diddle on their videos, spouting Super Secret Thangs about momentum, G'Man gives them a ball and says "Throw the hell out of it."
My bet he's on welfare.
It's called "Intent"
The intent to throw hard.
You can develop intent with the use of feedback. Whether it is a radar gun, or increasing distance of your throws when you long toss, these are a couple of the ways to get feedback.
Then being able to take this new found intent and velocity to the mound and eventually to a game. That's where the rubber meets the road and leads to a whole 'nother set of obstacles.
The intent to throw hard.
You can develop intent with the use of feedback. Whether it is a radar gun, or increasing distance of your throws when you long toss, these are a couple of the ways to get feedback.
Then being able to take this new found intent and velocity to the mound and eventually to a game. That's where the rubber meets the road and leads to a whole 'nother set of obstacles.
Poosey said "I consider "solid advice" that which is built on the basis of scientific citation"
Ok so how about some "scientific citation" here. Tell us all where it is that this "scientific" discovery was made..how it is unimportant to prepare the body for the force necessary to go beyond "full effort" and how not doing it is a healthy thing to do. Or is it because you said said so...is that to be considered "solid advice"?
I don't completely disagree that determined effort can develop a temporary increase in velocity, but if the shoulder and elbow aren't prepared and able to sustain it, logic would say that it is possibly injurious.
If it were just so simple then many more kids would be throwing much faster..I don't believe that they just stop and say.."I'm throwing fast enough..I won't try to throw harder now"..just a little absurd to think that IMO (Testifyed by the hundreds of postings all over the pitching internet with the exact same question)..mechanics limit, yes strength limits, conditioning limits...and coaching limits.
Ok so how about some "scientific citation" here. Tell us all where it is that this "scientific" discovery was made..how it is unimportant to prepare the body for the force necessary to go beyond "full effort" and how not doing it is a healthy thing to do. Or is it because you said said so...is that to be considered "solid advice"?
I don't completely disagree that determined effort can develop a temporary increase in velocity, but if the shoulder and elbow aren't prepared and able to sustain it, logic would say that it is possibly injurious.
If it were just so simple then many more kids would be throwing much faster..I don't believe that they just stop and say.."I'm throwing fast enough..I won't try to throw harder now"..just a little absurd to think that IMO (Testifyed by the hundreds of postings all over the pitching internet with the exact same question)..mechanics limit, yes strength limits, conditioning limits...and coaching limits.
Some pitchers stride their height. Have you tried striding 5'7" to see if it helps?
poosey...you are just a loser. You umpire cuz you were never good enough to play and are just one of the gloryhog umpires who thinks its all about them. You are probably the fat umpire who sits and sweats behing home plate smelling of beer complaining to my catcher about how you want to get the game over with.
*Disclaimer- i dont hate umpires just the ones who thinks its all about them not the players.
*Disclaimer- i dont hate umpires just the ones who thinks its all about them not the players.
I dont recommend throwing and further than 90 feet, i think it develops awful mechanics and works tendons and ligaments in the wrong ways, i dont throw further than 70 feet anymore i just feel like i start to change too much, just throw as hard as you can for 10 or 15 minutes 2 times a week
While there may be some validity to the last part of your statement, I hardley believe that throwing farther than 90' is going to cause you problems.
My son long tosses as far as he possibly can (350'+) and it has had a positive effect on his mechanics.
He also has thrown into a net 15' away several times/week in our basement and has seen velocity increases.
My son long tosses as far as he possibly can (350'+) and it has had a positive effect on his mechanics.
He also has thrown into a net 15' away several times/week in our basement and has seen velocity increases.
