NewScout,
Try this one.
Go to the MLB Scouting Bureau and pull a report on DFW kids. Generally you will find a rather large file.
This will give you a start.
Or you can call the Bureau guy in the area, surely being a MLB guy you know who that is, and he might help you get a start in the right direction.
You know who the Bureau guy is in this area don't you?
Folks, let's not name names. Let's see if NewScout knows his stuff.
This should be fun.
Well Mister KG I can see you have no idea how this all works. I would like to know where you get your info about a large data files? If this is available to us poor little scouts please give me the website. Area guys don’t just call up R.G and ask for his list but maybe I need to ask him for my Bureau password to get my huge list of data. All the org. head scouting department compile both the bureau and there org. list together and send it out around the winter meetings. So thanks for the incorrect info but I have had my list just like everyone else for 3 months now. Maybe you did not read the post correctly. I NEVER asked for a list. Matter of fact please read back my 3 post and you will see nothing about me asking for a list. I just asked if anyone knew of any sleepers that may have just popped up in the last month. Ken I called a friend a long time scout in this area and asked if he knew you. And he said he thought you were a guy that played at Brookhaven. Are you a scout now? Have you been a scout?
For everyone else please forget I asked and we can end this post
For everyone else please forget I asked and we can end this post
quote:Originally posted by Newscout:
Well Mister KG I can see you have no idea how this all works. I would like to know where you get your info about a large data files? If this is available to us poor little scouts please give me the website. Area guys don’t just call up R.G and ask for his list but maybe I need to ask him for my Bureau password to get my huge list of data. All the org. head scouting department compile both the bureau and there org. list together and send it out around the winter meetings. So thanks for the incorrect info but I have had my list just like everyone else for 3 months now. Maybe you did not read the post correctly. I NEVER asked for a list. Matter of fact please read back my 3 post and you will see nothing about me asking for a list. I just asked if anyone knew of any sleepers that may have just popped up in the last month. Ken I called a friend a long time scout in this area and asked if he knew you. And he said he thought you were a guy that played at Brookhaven. Are you a scout now? Have you been a scout?
For everyone else please forget I asked and we can end this post
Nope, not a scout. Nope, never been a scout.
But I did sleep at a Holiday Inn Express one night.
Call R.G., I'm sure he can give you a few sleepers.
Hell, I'll give you one. Left handed side arm guy at McKinney North. With a little work and a little expense to your expense account you will track his name down I'm sure.
Oh, yep....Brookhaven Bear for one year. Then it was off to Northwood University. Ever heard of that place?
Oh, and wouldn't you have gotten that compiled list at the latest winter meetings?
Just asking and keepin' it real regards,
Gut
Newguy,
No chance your initials also are R.G is it?
No chance your initials also are R.G is it?
Yeap,
How are things going Mr. Griffis? I call you later and congrats on your new deal. P.F told me.
How are things going Mr. Griffis? I call you later and congrats on your new deal. P.F told me.
Train,
I gotta love the way you cut to the chase. But you are absolutely correct. No way a Freshman throwing a PG against Freshman means Sh*t. If the freshman class at that school had any hitters they would be already be playing JV or Varsity, so that pitcher wasn't throwing against any real talent.
That said, the freshman at Flower Mound, Shane Handerson (?) is the real deal and can complete at the varsity level now.
Overall the 08 class is very weak period. There are a few exceptions, PD could fill you in , his son I think is an 08 and is the best of the 08's.
Newscout, you need to focus on the 09's and 10's, 09 is a very strong class. If you want the names, go to the Dallasnews.com ( Dallas Morning News ) website and search each top 5A club, if you see a sophmore on the roster of a 5A or 4A high school they are worth a track and follow.
Examples,
Flower Mound , Durham and Ashley, Wylie, Feckley and Jordon, Coppell, Walsh , Kettler, Elkins, these are the kids I know but I am sure from watching this class for a while that you will fill a list worth watching from all over the MetroPlex.
Cather, you owe me.
I gotta love the way you cut to the chase. But you are absolutely correct. No way a Freshman throwing a PG against Freshman means Sh*t. If the freshman class at that school had any hitters they would be already be playing JV or Varsity, so that pitcher wasn't throwing against any real talent.
That said, the freshman at Flower Mound, Shane Handerson (?) is the real deal and can complete at the varsity level now.
Overall the 08 class is very weak period. There are a few exceptions, PD could fill you in , his son I think is an 08 and is the best of the 08's.
Newscout, you need to focus on the 09's and 10's, 09 is a very strong class. If you want the names, go to the Dallasnews.com ( Dallas Morning News ) website and search each top 5A club, if you see a sophmore on the roster of a 5A or 4A high school they are worth a track and follow.
Examples,
Flower Mound , Durham and Ashley, Wylie, Feckley and Jordon, Coppell, Walsh , Kettler, Elkins, these are the kids I know but I am sure from watching this class for a while that you will fill a list worth watching from all over the MetroPlex.
Cather, you owe me.
Not tonight, playing with the kids, I do have one question and one piece of advice.
Question: What in the hell are you doing on this message board?
Advice: Never post again you will get trapped in defending yourself.
Question: What in the hell are you doing on this message board?
Advice: Never post again you will get trapped in defending yourself.
So NewScout,
You telling me you are from a little East Texas town with the letters N L?
If so, you really are looking for that diamond in the rough.
And Cade gave you some good advice........
Be careful around here......guys like me love to derail that train.
You telling me you are from a little East Texas town with the letters N L?
If so, you really are looking for that diamond in the rough.
And Cade gave you some good advice........
Be careful around here......guys like me love to derail that train.
Train,
Your comment about no freshman make a difference on Varsity ... None is probably the most ignorant comment I have ever seen. Here's 3 that are making a huge difference on Varsity as freshman :
1. Zach Lee - Mckinney HS - Has pitched over 22 innings with a record of 2-0, only giving up 1 run while striking out 30. Zack throws the ball in the high 80s and is a stud. ERA is .30.
2. Matt Lipka - Mckinney HS - shortstop/pitcher - leads Mcinney in hitting average ( .447 ), home runs ( 3 ), RBIs ( 13 ), and Runs Scored ( 13 ). Has a 1.00 ERA and has worked out of 2 bases loaded jams - one against FM Marcus. Kid is a 5-tooler, throws in the mid to upper 80s - incredible talent.
3. Daryn Alves - Mckinney Boyd - hitting leadoff , batting .340 and leading Boyd in runs scored and stolen bases. No. # 2 pitcher on staff - just earned his second save against Mckinney North. Very fast - plays center field when not pitching.
Stick that in your pipe !!
Your comment about no freshman make a difference on Varsity ... None is probably the most ignorant comment I have ever seen. Here's 3 that are making a huge difference on Varsity as freshman :
1. Zach Lee - Mckinney HS - Has pitched over 22 innings with a record of 2-0, only giving up 1 run while striking out 30. Zack throws the ball in the high 80s and is a stud. ERA is .30.
2. Matt Lipka - Mckinney HS - shortstop/pitcher - leads Mcinney in hitting average ( .447 ), home runs ( 3 ), RBIs ( 13 ), and Runs Scored ( 13 ). Has a 1.00 ERA and has worked out of 2 bases loaded jams - one against FM Marcus. Kid is a 5-tooler, throws in the mid to upper 80s - incredible talent.
3. Daryn Alves - Mckinney Boyd - hitting leadoff , batting .340 and leading Boyd in runs scored and stolen bases. No. # 2 pitcher on staff - just earned his second save against Mckinney North. Very fast - plays center field when not pitching.
Stick that in your pipe !!
I would think you could add Ryan Ford at Plano West and Connor Zmolik at Plano East to lipper's list. I have not followed their stats closely but have seen their names pop-up in box scores.
quote:Originally posted by MeatsDad:
Train,
I gotta love the way you cut to the chase. But you are absolutely correct. No way a Freshman throwing a PG against Freshman means Sh*t. If the freshman class at that school had any hitters they would be already be play JV or Varsity, so that pitcher wasn't throwing against any real talent.
That said, the freshman at Flower Mound, Shane Handerson (?) is the real deal and can complete at the varsity level now.
Overall the 08 class is very weak period. There are a few exceptions, PD could fill you in , his son I think is an 08 and is the best of the 08's.
Newscout, you need to focus on the 09's and 10's, 09 is a very strong class. If you want the names, go to the Dallasnews.com ( Dallas Morning News ) website and search each top 5A club, if you see a sophmore on the roster of a 5A or 4A high school they are worth a track and follow.
Examples,
Flower Mound , Durham and Ashley, Wylie, Feckley and Jordon, Coppell, Walsh , Kettler, Elkins, these are the kids I know but I am sure from watching this class for a while that you will fill a list worth watching from all over the MetroPlex.
Cather, you owe me.
Shane Henderson from FM was good...interesting to see what FM can form him into in the next few years.
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THE BEAST...do you want to tell us your sons name? NO FRESHMAN MAKE A DIFFERENCE on Varsity...NONE.
Well, maybe if your 18 and a freshman which I have seen.[/QUOTE]
Not so, oh great Mr. Train. I know of a freshman in 5A ball who won the district batting title a couple of years back and knocked in a few game winning RBI's. If you don't remember, makes me think you are not from Coppell.
THE BEAST...do you want to tell us your sons name? NO FRESHMAN MAKE A DIFFERENCE on Varsity...NONE.
Well, maybe if your 18 and a freshman which I have seen.
[/QUOTE]Not so, oh great Mr. Train. I know of a freshman in 5A ball who won the district batting title a couple of years back and knocked in a few game winning RBI's. If you don't remember, makes me think you are not from Coppell.
quote:Originally posted by beenthere:
THE BEAST...do you want to tell us your sons name? NO FRESHMAN MAKE A DIFFERENCE on Varsity...NONE.
Well, maybe if your 18 and a freshman which I have seen.
[/QUOTE]Not so, oh great Mr. Train. I know of a freshman in 5A ball who won the district batting title a couple of years back and knocked in a few game winning RBI's. If you don't remember, makes me think you are not from Coppell.[/QUOTE]
Imagine that!
quote:I truly think this forum should join with the Illinois forum---reasons are self evident
That would would raise the level of the Illinois, Connecticut, and Texas forums all at the same time.
quote:Well Mister KG I can see you have no idea how this all works.
We have wondered about that for years.
the tone of this thread just confirms what i've thought for a while. it's not about the kids and baseball, its about a few dads trying to act like they know more than other dads.
i get enough of that at the high school games.
enjoy yourselves guys
i get enough of that at the high school games.
enjoy yourselves guys
screwball -- you've discovered the allure of most message boards. 
I hope this one has more to offer than the obvious. Shovel a little deeper, there's some good.....stuff.....here.
I hope this one has more to offer than the obvious. Shovel a little deeper, there's some good.....stuff.....here.
FO
Look again--there is no Connecticut Forum
Look again--there is no Connecticut Forum
Meatsdad,
You're an idiot! If the only good ballplayers are those going in the first round of the draft, then maybe 08's are weak. But to say there are no 08's that are any good...you are nuts. PD's kid is a stud yes, but there are no fewer than 25 08's in his same class. Time for you to shut up!
You're an idiot! If the only good ballplayers are those going in the first round of the draft, then maybe 08's are weak. But to say there are no 08's that are any good...you are nuts. PD's kid is a stud yes, but there are no fewer than 25 08's in his same class. Time for you to shut up!
quote:Originally posted by aplanodad15:
Meatsdad,
You're an idiot! If the only good ballplayers are those going in the first round of the draft, then maybe 08's are weak. But to say there are no 08's that are any good...you are nuts. PD's kid is a stud yes, but there are no fewer than 25 08's in his same class. Time for you to shut up!
So what year is your kid???????
2010 - Nice try! 
quote:Originally posted by TRhit:
FO
Look again--there is no Connecticut Forum
Wonder why?
Just the same, why don't you leave the Texas forum and spend your time looking for the Connecticut forum?
quote:He also led the team in rock throwing while in the field.
DBat GM, your kid may have lead the TEAM in rock throwing, but my kid led the LEAGUE in "dirt rearranging"!
BTW, Cade, I need to get my hands on one of those fancy new gloves you folks are making.
Later,
Chris Flores
There are several good freshman arms in this area for the 2010 class.
Allerheiligen, Alves, Blum, Cotton, Henderson, Lee, Lipka, Polk, Young...and I am sure there are several more...but I feel like all of these guys have good futures on the mound.
I don't think the 2008 class is absolutely loaded with arms by any means, though there are a few, this class probably has more position players than pitchers.
Allerheiligen, Alves, Blum, Cotton, Henderson, Lee, Lipka, Polk, Young...and I am sure there are several more...but I feel like all of these guys have good futures on the mound.
I don't think the 2008 class is absolutely loaded with arms by any means, though there are a few, this class probably has more position players than pitchers.
quote:the tone of this thread just confirms what i've thought for a while. it's not about the kids and baseball, its about a few dads trying to act like they know more than other dads.
i get enough of that at the high school games.
Bump
quote:Originally posted by aplanodad15:
Meatsdad,
You're an idiot! If the only good ballplayers are those going in the first round of the draft, then maybe 08's are weak. But to say there are no 08's that are any good...you are nuts. PD's kid is a stud yes, but there are no fewer than 25 08's in his same class. Time for you to shut up!
Hi aplanodad,
How are you doing? Have a rough day at the office, is your wife stepping out on you? Back off the idiot comments and add some value. Point out the 08's and and build some cases around some teams like Plano East that are using a lot of Juniors to be competitive. Educate this idiot, but please don't yell at me and tell me it is time to shut-up.
What I have observed over the years is that the 08's in Summer play got beat by the 09's that played up over the years in tournaments. I haven't seen the Dallas Mustang's 08's play but I have watched several other 08 top summer team programs play and they don't measure up to the 07 or 09's.
IMHO.
Also, thanks for making my point for me, 25 boys in DFW would mean a very weak class. I hope there are more than that. I can name 20 - 09's in District 6 - 5A that are prospects.
Once again apod, thanks for helping me make my case!! BTW - I didn't say there weren't any good ballplayers, just not a lot.
Have a bright and wonderful dad !!!
(20) '09 prospects in one district? 
Name them.
The 08' class isn't weak but they have had a very high bar raised for them by the class before them. The 09' class has been one of the better pitching classes that have been around for a little while for what I can see. And Edge Extreme Baseball put it into to good context by saying that the 08's arent loaded with arms but they do have quite a few position players.
dc
dc
apology I meant to say 07's
1. Zach Lee
2. Matt Lipka
3. Daryn Alves
LIPPER...since this was your first post I will be a nice guy. Welcome to HSweb. Which kid is yours above? Those that know me very well on here are very aware I do not like parents posting things to promote their own kids or little johnnys best friend to get some press. MHO has been if the kids are good they will be noticed even if they live in McKinney
I dont care if a freshman throws in the upper 80's and is a stud. Talk to me when they play a serious 5A schedule like us. Its the same as Prestonwood beng noticed as a powerhouse when they have played nobody.
If your kid shines in HS let him shine in summerball then we will see how good of a freshman player you have. Yes there are the exceptions and yes we all get them once in a blue moon.
After you play a solid schedule in 5A you will know if you have a great freshman playing varsity. Most solid 5A JV's can beat 4A programs in MHO.
APLANODAD please dont call my buddy MEATSDAD an idiot. If you know him....he is a genius and a friend.
Good luck with your season and if your freshman is great move him to Coppell where he can get the press by being seen by real scouts!!!
2. Matt Lipka
3. Daryn Alves
LIPPER...since this was your first post I will be a nice guy. Welcome to HSweb. Which kid is yours above? Those that know me very well on here are very aware I do not like parents posting things to promote their own kids or little johnnys best friend to get some press. MHO has been if the kids are good they will be noticed even if they live in McKinney
I dont care if a freshman throws in the upper 80's and is a stud. Talk to me when they play a serious 5A schedule like us. Its the same as Prestonwood beng noticed as a powerhouse when they have played nobody.
If your kid shines in HS let him shine in summerball then we will see how good of a freshman player you have. Yes there are the exceptions and yes we all get them once in a blue moon.
After you play a solid schedule in 5A you will know if you have a great freshman playing varsity. Most solid 5A JV's can beat 4A programs in MHO.
APLANODAD please dont call my buddy MEATSDAD an idiot. If you know him....he is a genius and a friend.
Good luck with your season and if your freshman is great move him to Coppell where he can get the press by being seen by real scouts!!!
Train -- a kid doesn't determine his school's schedule or their opponents -- you know that much. And you know there are "studs" at every level and at all ages. A few years ago, it was very rare to have freshmen (or sophomores for that matter) contribute on the varsity level. Today, it occurs more frequently -- in all sports.
I do agree with you however, that some of the recent posts (not necessarily in this topic) seem intent on promoting a select few -- which is unnecessary.
-PD
I do agree with you however, that some of the recent posts (not necessarily in this topic) seem intent on promoting a select few -- which is unnecessary.
-PD
this forum is nuckin futts
(there is only one t in futs)
Let's see...
DBAT 17's (07's & 08's) go to Connie Mack World Series in Farmington...
DBAT 16's ('08's) win Mickey Mantle World Series...
maybe there are a few '08's who can play?
DBAT 17's (07's & 08's) go to Connie Mack World Series in Farmington...
DBAT 16's ('08's) win Mickey Mantle World Series...
maybe there are a few '08's who can play?
quote:Originally posted by Natural:
Let's see...
DBAT 17's (07's & 08's) go to Connie Mack World Series in Farmington...
DBAT 16's ('08's) win Mickey Mantle World Series...
maybe there are a few '08's who can play?
Nature,
Thanks, that's constructive. I forgot about the DBAT16's last year and I listened to several games online and followed their progress. So once again you help me make my case there are a few excellent 08's in DFW.
Hey, Centex and Houston, how does the 08 class look out your way?
Train,
Thanks for the genius label but I might be closer to being an idiot than a genius. Either way, apod shouldn't being calling anyone anything.
What was this thread about again? Ah futs, I forgot.
quote:Originally posted by txdad06:
this forum is nuckin futts
A select few are making it that way!
I'm with SWAC, I'm headed to the sidelines!!
auf wiedersehen
DBAT 16 did lose a game to an '09 team.
And who's he calling a wieder????
And who's he calling a wieder????
Meatsdad-
First off, there is no way you have 20 '09 Prospects in 6-5A or else that is the most stacked district there has ever been.
And you are Crazy if you dont think the 08 Dallas Tigers could comptete with 07 teams and ESPICALLY 09 teams for that matter. I played for about half the season on that team, and from top to bottom that team can play some baseball, so before you go hating on the '08 class start looking at big game starters at the various schools.
I can tell you for a fact our #1 is a Junior and I'm sure we're not the only ones.
First off, there is no way you have 20 '09 Prospects in 6-5A or else that is the most stacked district there has ever been.
And you are Crazy if you dont think the 08 Dallas Tigers could comptete with 07 teams and ESPICALLY 09 teams for that matter. I played for about half the season on that team, and from top to bottom that team can play some baseball, so before you go hating on the '08 class start looking at big game starters at the various schools.
I can tell you for a fact our #1 is a Junior and I'm sure we're not the only ones.
Ummm walking on water here... Jbb and hsp will find that more funny that it's intended to be... lets just say I'm being careful.
I believe the top 2 or 3 16 y/o teams (from last summer... so '08s) could compete with any team. Not saying they are better, but I am saying they are competitive and as a TEAM get the job done very well. Sure there may not be as many standouts. No Blake Beaven, no Cole Green, no Cameron Rupp, etc. Having said that, any of the top '08s and '07s play eachother (teams), you know you are going to see great baseball... and isn't that what we're here for? Great HIGH SCHOOL BASEBALL?
I believe the top 2 or 3 16 y/o teams (from last summer... so '08s) could compete with any team. Not saying they are better, but I am saying they are competitive and as a TEAM get the job done very well. Sure there may not be as many standouts. No Blake Beaven, no Cole Green, no Cameron Rupp, etc. Having said that, any of the top '08s and '07s play eachother (teams), you know you are going to see great baseball... and isn't that what we're here for? Great HIGH SCHOOL BASEBALL?
DTIGER 
quote:I do not like parents posting things to promote their own kids or little johnnys best friend to get some press.
Good luck with your season and if your freshman is great move him to Coppell where he can get the press by being seen by real scouts!!!
Blatant self promotion!!!