Google "hope Solo's surgery" on utube for some inspiration. I know this sport can be a dirty word on this site but seeing what she went through to repair her labrum is amazing. 12 screws in the labrum/bone and tons of PT to get her where she is today.
The American women have been amazing in the World Cup and she's a big part of their success.
Good luck in your recovery- sounds like you're doing great so far. Keep your positive attitude!
I'm into my third week of physicl therapy and everything has been going very well. I have had very limited pain and soreness, which is very exciting. My range of motion is growing continuously which is making it easier to be happy. I've watched more baseball than I probably ever have, from tv to th summer teamI was supposed to play for. Out of all of this the most frustrating thing is seeing people not run out a groundball or walk on and off the field. I've thought about how many times I've done this and it is frustrating. The one thing I have want to take from this more than anything is the ability to remember this frustration.
I can't wait to get this sling off... typng with one hand is MISERABLE!
I can't wait to get this sling off... typng with one hand is MISERABLE!
From all indication Jeff’s recovery is going well. He has a positive attitude about how the therapy sessions are going and his therapist says this are going just fine. In reading other posts on this topic, I think both of us are staying away from looking at him being ahead/behind schedule and focusing on how feels that particular day. Jeff started taking walks at night to get some exercise and I think for both of us are dealing with the mental part of him not being able to play.
What triggered me to add to this post occurred last night. It was 10:30, I was getting ready for bed flipping through channels getting the watching the highlights of the nights MLB games. I saw that Field of Dreams was on at 11:00pm. I set the record on my DVR to have in saved. As 11:00 rolled around still watching TV, I flipped over to the movie and began watching. I sat there and watched the hold movie. I have seen it a hundred times and always tear up when Ray has catch with his dad. This time, I started to tear up almost from the beginning, Tears continued through the movie which lead to full on cry when Ray Liotta as Shoeless Joe explained how he felt when he had the game taken away from him. It touched the most sensitive nerve as father who shares a passion oh this game with his son. At that point I would have given anything to go get Jeff and go out and play a game on catch or hit him balls.
I know he has to the majority of the rehab on his own. He will be away at College when he can start throwing again. There is void in me because I won’t be the one playing catch with him or hitting balls at a time when as father I feel I need to be there like have since he was 4.
What triggered me to add to this post occurred last night. It was 10:30, I was getting ready for bed flipping through channels getting the watching the highlights of the nights MLB games. I saw that Field of Dreams was on at 11:00pm. I set the record on my DVR to have in saved. As 11:00 rolled around still watching TV, I flipped over to the movie and began watching. I sat there and watched the hold movie. I have seen it a hundred times and always tear up when Ray has catch with his dad. This time, I started to tear up almost from the beginning, Tears continued through the movie which lead to full on cry when Ray Liotta as Shoeless Joe explained how he felt when he had the game taken away from him. It touched the most sensitive nerve as father who shares a passion oh this game with his son. At that point I would have given anything to go get Jeff and go out and play a game on catch or hit him balls.
I know he has to the majority of the rehab on his own. He will be away at College when he can start throwing again. There is void in me because I won’t be the one playing catch with him or hitting balls at a time when as father I feel I need to be there like have since he was 4.
Here is the latest update on Junior5s progress.
Last night we had to go to the emergency room as he was having minor chest pain and high blood pressure. He had been experiencing high blood pressure for the past couple of weeks. This was never an issue prior to the surgery.
After a night of tests and monitoring, there appeared to be nothing significantly wrong. The doctor felt the combination of poor diet, lack of exercise and stress led to the high blood pressure.
Being 40, overweight, and relatively inactive for many years this visit sounded very familiar to a visit I had to the emergency room a few years ago. I was surprised that after only 6 weeks of inactivity these symptoms would appear in an 18 year old athlete.
I think my son is learning the value of a sound diet and hopefully it continues throughout his life.
Last night we had to go to the emergency room as he was having minor chest pain and high blood pressure. He had been experiencing high blood pressure for the past couple of weeks. This was never an issue prior to the surgery.
After a night of tests and monitoring, there appeared to be nothing significantly wrong. The doctor felt the combination of poor diet, lack of exercise and stress led to the high blood pressure.
Being 40, overweight, and relatively inactive for many years this visit sounded very familiar to a visit I had to the emergency room a few years ago. I was surprised that after only 6 weeks of inactivity these symptoms would appear in an 18 year old athlete.
I think my son is learning the value of a sound diet and hopefully it continues throughout his life.
With less than 2 weeks until Junior5 heads off to college in Nebraska, He seems to be doing a lot better mentally. The fact that he bought catcher’s gear and other equipment has helped. Now I understand why women shop when they are down in the dumps. LOL
The therapy continues to go well. He has his appointment with his surgeon Monday the 15th. At that time he should no longer need to wear the sling. Next week is also the point where he should be able to begin strength therapy. He was really enjoyed working with the PT here as he is former college baseball player and also had Labrum surgery in college. My hope is that he continues to progress with the PT in Nebraska in the manner he has progressed so far.
I have noticed that Junior5 appears to have lost a lot of the muscle mass he had in arms and shoulders. He commented that he has a lot of work to do just to get back to wear he was at the end of his senior year.
The therapy continues to go well. He has his appointment with his surgeon Monday the 15th. At that time he should no longer need to wear the sling. Next week is also the point where he should be able to begin strength therapy. He was really enjoyed working with the PT here as he is former college baseball player and also had Labrum surgery in college. My hope is that he continues to progress with the PT in Nebraska in the manner he has progressed so far.
I have noticed that Junior5 appears to have lost a lot of the muscle mass he had in arms and shoulders. He commented that he has a lot of work to do just to get back to wear he was at the end of his senior year.
quote:I have noticed that Junior5 appears to have lost a lot of the muscle mass he had in arms and shoulders. He commented that he has a lot of work to do just to get back to wear he was at the end of his senior year.
What has he been doing for the uninjured arm?
He has never been a workout warrior. But he was dedicated to improving his game. Plenty of hours taking extra BP, infield and such. He has always been a solid kid in his upper body. He just looks flabby around the arms and shoulders.
I don't think you realize how weak you get in such a short period of time. People tell you, but until you witness it for yourself, you can't clearly undestand.
I don't think you realize how weak you get in such a short period of time. People tell you, but until you witness it for yourself, you can't clearly undestand.
I have question out there for any who has gone throguh this.
As I said earlier, next week it will be 7 weeks since the surgery. We have out appiontment with the surgeon. We are hoping the Dr. will allow him to catch bullpen and maybe take ground balls with absolutely no throwing.
Has anyone who had this type of surgery begin non throw or hitting actvities at 8 weeks? If so, do you feel it benefit?
My thoguht it would affect one's mental state being able to do anything to feel like they were making baseball progress.
As I said earlier, next week it will be 7 weeks since the surgery. We have out appiontment with the surgeon. We are hoping the Dr. will allow him to catch bullpen and maybe take ground balls with absolutely no throwing.
Has anyone who had this type of surgery begin non throw or hitting actvities at 8 weeks? If so, do you feel it benefit?
My thoguht it would affect one's mental state being able to do anything to feel like they were making baseball progress.
Nope, at 7 weeks, those were not acceptable/approved activities for our son's MLB directed rehab program or from Dr Andrews office protocols.
The mental side is tough, for sure, as has been posted before.
Swinging a bat could, to my thinking, create significant risk of damaging/tearing the healing tissue and/or especially damaging the anchor. Swinging a bat might help him mentally but I expect it would be short term because of the risks it creates in setting back the recovery/rehab. Same with taking ground balls, even though not throwing.
Your son still has to regain range of motion in the shoulder so that it gets very close to 100% in all measurements. I doubt any solid rehab program would permit him to incur the motion he would through swinging a bat before his PT shows a near normal ROM.
Just as important as his ROM, he needs to generate strength in the shoulder in each plane of his range of motion.
jsingerjj, this is a very tough, long and tedious process. There just are no quick fixes. There are too many variables.
I would encourage you to support and maximize your son's recovery by looking at this over the long term rather than possibly causing something negative to happen by what you might be seeing in the short term.
There are no short cuts as tough as that is to accept.
The mental side is tough, for sure, as has been posted before.
Swinging a bat could, to my thinking, create significant risk of damaging/tearing the healing tissue and/or especially damaging the anchor. Swinging a bat might help him mentally but I expect it would be short term because of the risks it creates in setting back the recovery/rehab. Same with taking ground balls, even though not throwing.
Your son still has to regain range of motion in the shoulder so that it gets very close to 100% in all measurements. I doubt any solid rehab program would permit him to incur the motion he would through swinging a bat before his PT shows a near normal ROM.
Just as important as his ROM, he needs to generate strength in the shoulder in each plane of his range of motion.
jsingerjj, this is a very tough, long and tedious process. There just are no quick fixes. There are too many variables.
I would encourage you to support and maximize your son's recovery by looking at this over the long term rather than possibly causing something negative to happen by what you might be seeing in the short term.
There are no short cuts as tough as that is to accept.
I wasn't clear, sorry about that. The main thing he wants to do is catch bullpen, no throwing just catching and having someone else throw the ball back to the pticher.
I agree on the hitting part. The Dr. was clear on not being ablt to swing at bat until October.
I agree on the hitting part. The Dr. was clear on not being ablt to swing at bat until October.
I was just searching SLAP tears as I had the surgery before my freshman year of college (Outfield) and thought I'd send a reply. Make sure his confidence stays up and he doesn't rush anything. I went to a Physical therapy office for a month and the fall semester started so I continued at my school. With the amount of athletes that go in and out of the trainers office I don't think I received nearly what I needed. I don't remember what i started week for week but I do remember from reading up that my doctor might of babied my recovery with what I could do by comparing where other's were at on forums just as this. A few months after I had shoulder impingment.Right now I'm 25 and I can honestly say I wish I never had the surgery.
I wish him the best. Like infielddad said I wouldn't be trying to catch a bullpen (without throwing) even if his doctor said its ok. He's been playing baseball all his life and he's still young. The game is still going to be second nature to him and being a catcher he's going to need a full recovery and a strong arm to get him by 4 years of catching drills. I didn't know what practice was until I went to college. Infield outfield felt like a full game.
Mais, thanks for the insight. I am also very concerned about the treatment he gets once he heads to college. His surgeon and therapist work almost exclusively together and baseball arm injuries are their primary focus. I have already contacted the therapist that works with the team to ask he would continue the same program and provide the reports the current PT is providing the surgeon. I also made certain that there are no issues with the insurance.
Hopefully, the transiton to the new PT will be a smooth one.
Hopefully, the transiton to the new PT will be a smooth one.
jsingerjj- I share the same concerns with respect to my TJ surgery recovery. In my opinion, it's largely about open communication.
One question I will pose in light of your previous inquiry about the catching bullpens scenario. I don't mean for this to come off rudely in any sort of way, but I don't really know how to word it so that it is not so blunt. But here it goes...why does he want to catch bullpens? The rehab process is so long he'll have plenty of time to worry about rehabbing the rest of his baseball skills back into form. Why is it such a rush to do so now? Is it because he is anxious (he's stated his frustration directly to me)? Or is it because he wishes to continue to improve in baseball? If it is the first reason, I urge patience. The second, I urge patience as well. All will come in time with respect to the surgery. There is a reason why the protocols are written the way they are, and a reason why the medical professionals that have proven to be successful in these aspects have come up with their methods.
Hope this helps. Again, sorry for being rather blunt about it. Don't want to be too harsh. Your son is obviously both talented and passionate, and I've had direct conversations with him about many of these things. Rushing, in my opinion and from the advice I've been given, is a huge no-no.
One question I will pose in light of your previous inquiry about the catching bullpens scenario. I don't mean for this to come off rudely in any sort of way, but I don't really know how to word it so that it is not so blunt. But here it goes...why does he want to catch bullpens? The rehab process is so long he'll have plenty of time to worry about rehabbing the rest of his baseball skills back into form. Why is it such a rush to do so now? Is it because he is anxious (he's stated his frustration directly to me)? Or is it because he wishes to continue to improve in baseball? If it is the first reason, I urge patience. The second, I urge patience as well. All will come in time with respect to the surgery. There is a reason why the protocols are written the way they are, and a reason why the medical professionals that have proven to be successful in these aspects have come up with their methods.
Hope this helps. Again, sorry for being rather blunt about it. Don't want to be too harsh. Your son is obviously both talented and passionate, and I've had direct conversations with him about many of these things. Rushing, in my opinion and from the advice I've been given, is a huge no-no.
Your welcome. Like everyone's said patience is the best advice we can give. Everyone's different and will regain ROM and heal from the surgery. Just a simple jog I could feel how underdeveloped my back and shoulder were to keep my shoulder joint in place. I rushed things a little more than I should and had the goal of being ready for a season that started in 10 months. I mentally played up my progression in my head. I was 18, stupid, and just wanted to get back on the field.
Talk to him about redshirting. He has a lot to lose if he reinjures his labrum or even tears his rotator cuff. During this time he can concentrate more on school and save a year of eligibility,
Talk to him about redshirting. He has a lot to lose if he reinjures his labrum or even tears his rotator cuff. During this time he can concentrate more on school and save a year of eligibility,
Just to clarify, his doctor, college coach, and PT have said then WHEN he has the stength and ROM, he could participate in some no throwing baseball activivites. I am confortible whit all their credentials, experience, and looking out for the best interets of my son.
The point of my question was does anyone have any experience with the time frame, 8 week, 12 weeks, etc.
From a Junior5's perspective cathcing bullpen is a very important step. it allows him to get a feeling for the pitchers at time during fall balls when his school has a shortage fo catcher's (some play football). In his situation, When he gets healthy, he has good chance at being the 3rd catcher, which means he would travel as a freshman.
Mais- as far as redshirting. I dont think that is a plan of his. He wants to graduate in 4 years and play as much healthy basebal as he can, then move on the next stage of his life.
The point of my question was does anyone have any experience with the time frame, 8 week, 12 weeks, etc.
From a Junior5's perspective cathcing bullpen is a very important step. it allows him to get a feeling for the pitchers at time during fall balls when his school has a shortage fo catcher's (some play football). In his situation, When he gets healthy, he has good chance at being the 3rd catcher, which means he would travel as a freshman.
Mais- as far as redshirting. I dont think that is a plan of his. He wants to graduate in 4 years and play as much healthy basebal as he can, then move on the next stage of his life.
No problem. I was just throwing that out there. Now a days a masters degree is like the new bachelors.
I'm about to head out to vitaminshoppe in a little to pick up a multi glucosamine supplement for joints (Animalflex). My buddy who pitched swears by this and it can't do any harm taking. Bring it up to your doctor.
Just from experience I've on occasion bought a bottle of ORGANIC Vegetable Juice and after drinking, the next morning waking up I have had little to no inflamation at all in my shoulder. For me it beats the anti-inflamatory affect of tylenol/motrin/aleve ect. Organic, Supermarket processed vegetable juice does nothing for me.
Can you tell me how much was the Cryocuff and if it was no cost on your insurance from your orthapedic. thanks
I'm about to head out to vitaminshoppe in a little to pick up a multi glucosamine supplement for joints (Animalflex). My buddy who pitched swears by this and it can't do any harm taking. Bring it up to your doctor.
Just from experience I've on occasion bought a bottle of ORGANIC Vegetable Juice and after drinking, the next morning waking up I have had little to no inflamation at all in my shoulder. For me it beats the anti-inflamatory affect of tylenol/motrin/aleve ect. Organic, Supermarket processed vegetable juice does nothing for me.
Can you tell me how much was the Cryocuff and if it was no cost on your insurance from your orthapedic. thanks
Junior5 had his last visit to his surgeon before heading off to shcool next week. Everyhting is progressing well and his now allowed to run and do agility actvities. The doctor provided a 20 page document outlining the the rehab plan and the details of the injury and the suregery that we will provde to the PT in Nebraska.
He will be home in mid-October to see his surgeon. If his ROM and stregnth continues to progress he could at that point begin some baseball activities.
Mais- Junior5 really like the cryocuff. He used it as much as he could. I highly recommend using one. Yes our insurance company covered it.
He will be home in mid-October to see his surgeon. If his ROM and stregnth continues to progress he could at that point begin some baseball activities.
Mais- Junior5 really like the cryocuff. He used it as much as he could. I highly recommend using one. Yes our insurance company covered it.
I wanted to provide an update. After his last PT session in Arizona on Aug. 22nd his ROM continued to progress. He has begun some strengthening exercises with very light weight. This was actually the 1st therapy session I attended as I wanted to make sure my son had everything he needed as far as documentation for the PT in Nebraska.
He has been cleared to do lower body and core exercises as long it didn’t involve a bar (meaning no squats or the like). He is also cleared for running, speed and agility exercises. I think this is a big step for him mentally as it allows for him to work his lower body, core, speed and agility which has been an opportunity in which to improve in the past.
We got him all moved in at his school and he had two visits to his new PT this past week. My best comparison between the two PTs is a Mercedes to a Honda. The PT in AZ was top of the line. The have a number of MLB clients and pull out all the stops from extra heat/cold treatment, electric stimulation, and massage. His averga PT session would take 1 and ½ hours. His 1st session at the new PT was 45 min. The new PT is following all of the protocol outlined by the surgeon and the facility is the much the same. However, the extras he no longer gets is a bit disappointing.
The biggest difference in the short time he has been away has been his mental state. He mentioned how he enjoyed being on the field while hitting and throwing activities were going on. Even though he is a spectator except for throwing some extra soft toss to teammates (left handed). This has been huge for him. He is part of the team while all summer he was alone without any team participation.
He comes home in Mid-October for doctor visit. If he stays on track, he could begin the path to developing his throwing motion and doing some limited baseball activities, then starting a throwing program in late October.
He has been cleared to do lower body and core exercises as long it didn’t involve a bar (meaning no squats or the like). He is also cleared for running, speed and agility exercises. I think this is a big step for him mentally as it allows for him to work his lower body, core, speed and agility which has been an opportunity in which to improve in the past.
We got him all moved in at his school and he had two visits to his new PT this past week. My best comparison between the two PTs is a Mercedes to a Honda. The PT in AZ was top of the line. The have a number of MLB clients and pull out all the stops from extra heat/cold treatment, electric stimulation, and massage. His averga PT session would take 1 and ½ hours. His 1st session at the new PT was 45 min. The new PT is following all of the protocol outlined by the surgeon and the facility is the much the same. However, the extras he no longer gets is a bit disappointing.
The biggest difference in the short time he has been away has been his mental state. He mentioned how he enjoyed being on the field while hitting and throwing activities were going on. Even though he is a spectator except for throwing some extra soft toss to teammates (left handed). This has been huge for him. He is part of the team while all summer he was alone without any team participation.
He comes home in Mid-October for doctor visit. If he stays on track, he could begin the path to developing his throwing motion and doing some limited baseball activities, then starting a throwing program in late October.
Today was first day of the fall practice and we did testing activites. I ran and participated in the activites that I was able to. This absolutely sucked for me. I hate being that kid that has an excuse; especially on a baseball field. Another thing that bothered me about today was the fact that i've had minimal oppertunity to get in shape... The testing was all about what shape you are in. I've ran a handful of times and haven't been able to work on my core and legs. I'm disappointed with the practice, mainly because I was that kid today and till october ATLEAST. I also know this process is this way, it's going to be miserable, but I have to take it step by step and make the best of it. I guess the best way to do it is write a bunch of run-on sentences and not make sense...