Hintite -- my son has never thrown 90 -- his work in the MSL helped generate additional recruiting interest. As I mentioned, it was a great investment for us.
quote:Originally posted by Panther Dad:
KG -- now that's a great argument. I suppose most of those guys would stay home if not for the wood bats -- they go to see the bats! It has NOTHING to do with having the best players in the country there.
In Bryce Harper's YouTube video, at least partially "sponsored" by BamBoo Bat and Baseball America, he swings metal at the Tropicana Field HR Derby....while swinging wood in BP in other parts of the video. Obviously, it doesn't matter what he swings. But there aren't many Bryce Harper's playing in the MSL --- or are there???
Wasn't an arguement. You need to cease the assumptions. Just something you could "chew" on. Your taking too big of a bite during this meal.
Another thing you can chew on. Just make sure you take little bites.....
There would have never been a Bryce Harper video unless aluminum was in his hand.
quote:Originally posted by Hintite:
how refreshing to hear, and I agree. It's just that after a long summer of comparing himself to others who have been less successful on the field but light up radar guns I didn't want to set him up for dissapointment. thanks for the encouragement.
If you son is a quality pitcher, they will see him. Yes all the pitchers that get the publicity are throwing high 80's low 90's. Doesn't mean they can pitch just throw hard. Big difference. Your son may not get offers from the Big Schools but if he has a passion to play, he will have that opportunity.
My son went through the identical problem as a position player.
Bottom Line: money well spent for the Metro Scout League.
I just hated the **** drive...lmao (125 miles roundtrip)
quote:Originally posted by ChargerDad:
Ok, resisted commenting thus far, but my weakness causes me to pitch in.
At great risk of riducule from those known "experts" of whom we all bow to their extreme knowledge/experience and the-way-the-game's-supposed-to-be-played-isms they will spew from high atop Mount HS Baseball Web Rushmore, here's my thoughts.
I don't really care about the dynamics of wood vs. metal as it pertains to recruiting coordinators, scouts, etc. For me, it's much more simple than that.
Not intending to sell my kid short, but in all likelihood, he'll never play at a wood-bat level league (meaning professional). This applies to at least 95% of these H.S. players. His current and next level swings metal (aside from some summer leagues). So it only makes sense that's what he swing in H.S. summer-ball. Since he has used mostly wood this summer, ok, no big deal. Doesn't affect him as a player much either way.
But it's truly affected my wallet. He went through 6-7 wood bats this summer, anywhere from $40 to $90 a pop. This, as opposed to the Stealth I purchased for $250, and will last at least 2 seasons. Again, no biggie, just money, but it's cash I wouldn't have otherwise spent.
Yeah, watching all these wood-bat games with much more inept offensive production and pitcher-dominant performances has been different. But heck, I like a low scoring, well-pitched game more than most.
Just doesn't make sense to me to be playing wood when that's not what most will ever swing competitively. Maybe it will make him a better hitter, I don't know. I doubt it.
Guess these aren't new thoughts or opinions. Probably beating a dead horse.
Wait a minute... you mean Charge Son used a metal bat for 2 years ? Lil Mav has to have a new one every six months... He comes to me and says "dad its dead". I tell him the bats fine but the user is having issues... lol...
I bet I spent almost $7k in bats since day one...
Wanna trade kids ? I'll throw in a dog or two? How about a horse too...
quote:Originally posted by Maverick0714:quote:Originally posted by ChargerDad:
Ok, resisted commenting thus far, but my weakness causes me to pitch in.
At great risk of riducule from those known "experts" of whom we all bow to their extreme knowledge/experience and the-way-the-game's-supposed-to-be-played-isms they will spew from high atop Mount HS Baseball Web Rushmore, here's my thoughts.
I don't really care about the dynamics of wood vs. metal as it pertains to recruiting coordinators, scouts, etc. For me, it's much more simple than that.
Not intending to sell my kid short, but in all likelihood, he'll never play at a wood-bat level league (meaning professional). This applies to at least 95% of these H.S. players. His current and next level swings metal (aside from some summer leagues). So it only makes sense that's what he swing in H.S. summer-ball. Since he has used mostly wood this summer, ok, no big deal. Doesn't affect him as a player much either way.
But it's truly affected my wallet. He went through 6-7 wood bats this summer, anywhere from $40 to $90 a pop. This, as opposed to the Stealth I purchased for $250, and will last at least 2 seasons. Again, no biggie, just money, but it's cash I wouldn't have otherwise spent.
Yeah, watching all these wood-bat games with much more inept offensive production and pitcher-dominant performances has been different. But heck, I like a low scoring, well-pitched game more than most.
Just doesn't make sense to me to be playing wood when that's not what most will ever swing competitively. Maybe it will make him a better hitter, I don't know. I doubt it.
Guess these aren't new thoughts or opinions. Probably beating a dead horse.
Wait a minute... you mean Charge Son used a metal bat for 2 years ? Lil Mav has to have a new one every six months... He comes to me and says "dad its dead". I tell him the bats fine but the user is having issues... lol...
I bet I spent almost $7k in bats since day one...
Wanna trade kids ? I'll throw in a dog or two? How about a horse too...
Mav, sounds like my golf clubs...
Ken,
I know this is off topic and I don't mean anything derogatory in my questions to you but I thought I would ask. Since you put so much emphasis on experience and seem to think that no one can have any knowledge about anything baseball related unless thet actually played, what do you do when it comes to making everyday decisions for your son? Do you call or consult with guys like PD prior to making a decision? Do you call other fathers with experience? Do you just decide on your own? Do you do some sort of combination?
If you have no experience actually being a father surely you can't just have a correct opinion on your own without checking with an actual father first to see what they think. If you did this and another actual father with experience disagreed with you then obviously you would be wrong in your decision or opinion, since you lack the necessary experience.
I actually agree with a lot of things you post on here but would seriously like to understand some of the rational behind the "nobody can actually know anything unless they played" stance you seem to push and how you apply that reasoning to other parts of life.
Once again, I mean nothing derogatory in my questions. From previous posts on here you appear to be a great father and really enjoy your son. I just wonder how you can do something right or make a correct decision without the necessary prior experience?
I know this is off topic and I don't mean anything derogatory in my questions to you but I thought I would ask. Since you put so much emphasis on experience and seem to think that no one can have any knowledge about anything baseball related unless thet actually played, what do you do when it comes to making everyday decisions for your son? Do you call or consult with guys like PD prior to making a decision? Do you call other fathers with experience? Do you just decide on your own? Do you do some sort of combination?
If you have no experience actually being a father surely you can't just have a correct opinion on your own without checking with an actual father first to see what they think. If you did this and another actual father with experience disagreed with you then obviously you would be wrong in your decision or opinion, since you lack the necessary experience.
I actually agree with a lot of things you post on here but would seriously like to understand some of the rational behind the "nobody can actually know anything unless they played" stance you seem to push and how you apply that reasoning to other parts of life.
Once again, I mean nothing derogatory in my questions. From previous posts on here you appear to be a great father and really enjoy your son. I just wonder how you can do something right or make a correct decision without the necessary prior experience?
quote:Originally posted by iluvgoodbaseball:
Ken,
I know this is off topic and I don't mean anything derogatory in my questions to you but I thought I would ask. Since you put so much emphasis on experience and seem to think that no one can have any knowledge about anything baseball related unless thet actually played, what do you do when it comes to making everyday decisions for your son? Do you call or consult with guys like PD prior to making a decision? Do you call other fathers with experience? Do you just decide on your own? Do you do some sort of combination?
If you have no experience actually being a father surely you can't just have a correct opinion on your own without checking with an actual father first to see what they think. If you did this and another actual father with experience disagreed with you then obviously you would be wrong in your decision or opinion, since you lack the necessary experience.
I actually agree with a lot of things you post on here but would seriously like to understand some of the rational behind the "nobody can actually know anything unless they played" stance you seem to push and how you apply that reasoning to other parts of life.
Once again, I mean nothing derogatory in my questions. From previous posts on here you appear to be a great father and really enjoy your son. I just wonder how you can do something right or make a correct decision without the necessary prior experience?
First off,
I don't remember saying this...."nobody can actually know anything unless they played".
Although you are correct. There is very little I know about fatherhood. I only have 3 years experience so far. There are a few fathers of players I've coached (present & past) that could tell you how often I go to them on questions of fatherhood. There are fathers I work with that I often call on when wanting information. Heck, ask KCR how many times I call him on it.
Now if there was a website like maybe..... fatherhoodweb.com and I was making statements like I knew what I was talking about, I'd expect fathers who've actually been there to question my opinions or statements in which they didn't agree with.
I don't take offense to your question although I would ask how you were able to derive anything in this thread that I wrote that would directly refer to your claim.
Lastly, I'd challenge anyone here to find a MLB coach who did not play professional baseball. Then I'd ask for someone to find a college coach who didn't play at a higher level than HS. Catch my drift? Unless you have experience, it's impossible to actually "know it". I'm talking actually knowing it.
It's kind of like Josh in the booth with Tom w/ the Rangers. Would you be more likely to listen to Tom talk about what goes on in the clubhouse as a player, or Josh?
I don't disqualify an opinion of someone who hasn't actually been in the trenches, but I will darn sure question it when it's something I don't agree with.
For those that don't agree with any of this and think it's all BS..........
I ask if any parent has ever paid for a baseball lesson for your son?
Have you ever given money to an instructor that didn't play higher than the HS level? I'd bet it's 99% no. Why? Because you want someone who has been there and done it.
When someone makes a comment about the game, I want someone who's been there and done it.
If I question those statements or opinions by asking for their experience level and they take offense....... oh well.
If a person gives me an opinion on proper finance management, I'm probably going to make sure they are successful financially.
quote:Lastly, I'd challenge anyone here to find a MLB coach who did not play professional baseball.
Dave Trembley - Orioles
quote:I imagine the powers-that-be are asking the coaches, scouts, the Yankee scouts, etc. what they want to see.....and the baseball guys are saying that they are fine with wood.....who wants to admit to preferring aluminum??? EVIL!!!
quote:Originally posted by Panther Dad:
Oh and....the college coaches send their kids to wood bat leagues because there are no collegiate metal bat leagues.
You can google it but the fact in the history of the summerball leagues, many of the college coaches would/will not allow their pitchers to play anymore in metal bat leagues due to the greater possibility of injury. Therefore all the leagues went to wood. This has trickled down to the HS/Prep player leagues not only because it was safer for the pitchers but, they also felt they could evaluate hitters better with wood.
Why don't you just ask a recruiter I have and in every case they will say they would like to see a kid hit with wood. They will qualify that by saying that they see them hit enough with metal.
I have never been on a recruiting visit to a D1 college when being shown the locker room, every locker had two metal bats and three or four well worn wood bats. So if they are using wood for evaluation and training, then it would follow that they would like to see prep players hit with wood also.
One more thing to chew on as Ken would say. Last year in an indoor showcase they had three cages for hitting, all the hitters were using metal a kid steps into a cage with a wood bat hits a couple and all the recruiters and scouts left the other cages to watch this kid hit. Why?
quote:Originally posted by workinghard:quote:Lastly, I'd challenge anyone here to find a MLB coach who did not play professional baseball.
Dave Trembley - Orioles
Dang it. You are right. I forgot about him.
He won't last long though.
quote:Originally posted by workinghard:quote:Lastly, I'd challenge anyone here to find a MLB coach who did not play professional baseball.
Dave Trembley - Orioles
Joe Maddon - Manager TB Rays, 2 years "A" ball. (Bench Player)World Series 2008
Mike Hutcheon - Head Coach Air Force Academy, never played college. Won a National Championship as head coach.
Joe Maddon played professional ball. I didn't say anything about having played in the big leagues and now coaching in the big leagues. Just used professional baseball as a whole.
Mike Hutcheon - His name didn't show up in a google search. He won a NCAA Natioinal Championship? Surely it would have shown up. Can you post a bio link?
Mike Hutcheon - His name didn't show up in a google search. He won a NCAA Natioinal Championship? Surely it would have shown up. Can you post a bio link?
strik3 -- you make good points. I think I mentioned that one of the most compelling reasons for the collegiate leagues to play with wood is liability. It's safer to swing wood in BP as well -- and cheaper to give a kid 3-4 $60 bats than one $350 bat. I stick to my comments that were called out in your post. I suggest that if the leagues played with aluminum that the kids would still participate. I also suggest that the objective of the collegiate leagues are different than that of the MSL (the topic). Would you agree?
Look, I don't hate wood. I don't even dislike it. As a matter of fact, I love wood....morning, afternoon, evening wood. Wood is great! Wood is baseball....it's pure....it's the crack of the WOOD bat.....etc....yadda.....wood is good!
The topic people! The topic!
Ken and doubleday started all of this controversy.
Look, I don't hate wood. I don't even dislike it. As a matter of fact, I love wood....morning, afternoon, evening wood. Wood is great! Wood is baseball....it's pure....it's the crack of the WOOD bat.....etc....yadda.....wood is good!
The topic people! The topic!
Ken and doubleday started all of this controversy.
"Prior to his stint at the Academy, Hutcheon has guided several programs to prominence throughout the collegiate ranks and has also earned national accolades for his achievements.
In 2002, Hutcheon led Bethel College to the National Christian Collegiate Athletic Association (NCCAA) national championship. For his efforts, he was named 2002 NCCAA National Coach of the Year."
Very nice accomplishments -- like those of nearby DBU -- a program dear to many on this site.
In 2002, Hutcheon led Bethel College to the National Christian Collegiate Athletic Association (NCCAA) national championship. For his efforts, he was named 2002 NCCAA National Coach of the Year."
Very nice accomplishments -- like those of nearby DBU -- a program dear to many on this site.
Apologies for perpetuating this hi-jacking, but it's a rainy Saturday, so shoot me.
To assert that one can not be knowledgable, valuable, have an informed opinion, or be a succesful baseball (or other sport) coach at any level (Little League, H.S., College, or pro) is short-sighted, ego-centric, and bordering on asinine. To defy all others to name specific examples, in attempt to support your argument only further reveals the attitude and persona you have repeatedly displayed on this board.
All leagues are littered w/ coaches that never played professionally and who are quite succesful (Parcells, Reid, Mike Leach, to name a few that come to mind). But there's no question that most who choose the career also played. It's a logical progression, but not solely based on an expertise or insider knowledge. To follow that reasoning, one could also say that former professional athletes can not be successful in another line of business (a banker, business man, lawyer, member of media, etc) since they lack experience or knowledge that non-athletes have obtained by working professionally in those fields.
You have continuously discounted and dismissed any opinion you disagree with as being worthless and without merit simply because you believe your experiences automatically qualify you as an expert. It seems as though most if not all debates you have had inevitibly and ultimately lead to you pointing out your professional experience vs. your opponents lack thereof. That's patently unfair and unreasonable.
While you may be an "expert" and quite knowledgable on the subject matter, you chip away at the potential respect you could receive by displaying this attitude. That's a shame.
By the way, to borrow your debating technique, I don't believe anyone stated that you said "no one can actually know anything unless they played." But I don't think anyone who is a regular reader on this board would argue that your postings typically portray this general sentiment.
Most of us are only trying to make decisions or form our own opintions based on our own experiences, input from peers, research, expert advice, and other factors such as a gut feeling of what is "right."
I don't expect that you will take this posting as constructive criticism or with any level of value or respect, and I can live w/ that.
Awaiting your condescending reply regards,
cd
To assert that one can not be knowledgable, valuable, have an informed opinion, or be a succesful baseball (or other sport) coach at any level (Little League, H.S., College, or pro) is short-sighted, ego-centric, and bordering on asinine. To defy all others to name specific examples, in attempt to support your argument only further reveals the attitude and persona you have repeatedly displayed on this board.
All leagues are littered w/ coaches that never played professionally and who are quite succesful (Parcells, Reid, Mike Leach, to name a few that come to mind). But there's no question that most who choose the career also played. It's a logical progression, but not solely based on an expertise or insider knowledge. To follow that reasoning, one could also say that former professional athletes can not be successful in another line of business (a banker, business man, lawyer, member of media, etc) since they lack experience or knowledge that non-athletes have obtained by working professionally in those fields.
You have continuously discounted and dismissed any opinion you disagree with as being worthless and without merit simply because you believe your experiences automatically qualify you as an expert. It seems as though most if not all debates you have had inevitibly and ultimately lead to you pointing out your professional experience vs. your opponents lack thereof. That's patently unfair and unreasonable.
While you may be an "expert" and quite knowledgable on the subject matter, you chip away at the potential respect you could receive by displaying this attitude. That's a shame.
By the way, to borrow your debating technique, I don't believe anyone stated that you said "no one can actually know anything unless they played." But I don't think anyone who is a regular reader on this board would argue that your postings typically portray this general sentiment.
Most of us are only trying to make decisions or form our own opintions based on our own experiences, input from peers, research, expert advice, and other factors such as a gut feeling of what is "right."
I don't expect that you will take this posting as constructive criticism or with any level of value or respect, and I can live w/ that.
Awaiting your condescending reply regards,
cd
quote:Originally posted by Panther Dad:
Look, I don't hate wood. I don't even dislike it. As a matter of fact, I love wood....morning, afternoon, evening wood. Wood is great! Wood is baseball....it's pure....it's the crack of the WOOD bat.....etc....yadda.....wood is good!
PD, that is the quote of the year!
And, ChargerDad, thanks for mentioning the mad scientist...Mike Leach. He is one of the fun guys in sports.
quote:Originally posted by ChargerDad:
Apologies for perpetuating this hi-jacking, but it's a rainy Saturday, so shoot me.
To assert that one can not be knowledgable, valuable, have an informed opinion, or be a succesful baseball (or other sport) coach at any level (Little League, H.S., College, or pro) is short-sighted, ego-centric, and bordering on asinine. To defy all others to name specific examples, in attempt to support your argument only further reveals the attitude and persona you have repeatedly displayed on this board.
All leagues are littered w/ coaches that never played professionally and who are quite succesful (Parcells, Reid, Mike Leach, to name a few that come to mind). But there's no question that most who choose the career also played. It's a logical progression, but not solely based on an expertise or insider knowledge. To follow that reasoning, one could also say that former professional athletes can not be successful in another line of business (a banker, business man, lawyer, member of media, etc) since they lack experience or knowledge that non-athletes have obtained by working professionally in those fields.
You have continuously discounted and dismissed any opinion you disagree with as being worthless and without merit simply because you believe your experiences automatically qualify you as an expert. It seems as though most if not all debates you have had inevitibly and ultimately lead to you pointing out your professional experience vs. your opponents lack thereof. That's patently unfair and unreasonable.
While you may be an "expert" and quite knowledgable on the subject matter, you chip away at the potential respect you could receive by displaying this attitude. That's a shame.
By the way, to borrow your debating technique, I don't believe anyone stated that you said "no one can actually know anything unless they played." But I don't think anyone who is a regular reader on this board would argue that your postings typically portray this general sentiment.
Most of us are only trying to make decisions or form our own opintions based on our own experiences, input from peers, research, expert advice, and other factors such as a gut feeling of what is "right."
I don't expect that you will take this posting as constructive criticism or with any level of value or respect, and I can live w/ that.
Awaiting your condescending reply regards,
cd
I've got to get ready for the circus. Lions, tigers, and bears........
Rrrrrrrrrrrr........
ego-centric regards,
quote:Originally posted by Ken Guthrie:
Joe Maddon played professional ball. I didn't say anything about having played in the big leagues and now coaching in the big leagues. Just used professional baseball as a whole.
Mike Hutcheon - His name didn't show up in a google search. He won a NCAA Natioinal Championship? Surely it would have shown up. Can you post a bio link?
http://www.goairforcefalcons.c...hutcheon_mike00.html
The summer leagues were originally funded by MLB with NCAA blessing.
That's why they use wooden bats.
It provides pro scouts a chance to evaluate hitters with wood in a game situation.
I can't really imagine a high school player going from aluminum to wood in Milb with the change in the quality of pitching, but I know a few do.
It is true that many college coaches prefer their pitchers, especilly their starting pitchers, to take the summer off.
One of the most dramatic changes that I have seen in baseball player development is the change to wood for the summer leagues after the freshman collegiate year and the change to Milb from college.
Cost was a factor, but I don't believe that is currently the case.
I think the aluminum makes high school and collegiate baseball more exciting, but much more dangerous as well.
To me, the use of wood in the summer collegiate leagues, provides a logical transition for players with the potential for professional baseball.
Many of the relatively few players that go to Milb from high school and college never successfully make the transition to wood.
That's why they use wooden bats.
It provides pro scouts a chance to evaluate hitters with wood in a game situation.
I can't really imagine a high school player going from aluminum to wood in Milb with the change in the quality of pitching, but I know a few do.
It is true that many college coaches prefer their pitchers, especilly their starting pitchers, to take the summer off.
One of the most dramatic changes that I have seen in baseball player development is the change to wood for the summer leagues after the freshman collegiate year and the change to Milb from college.
Cost was a factor, but I don't believe that is currently the case.
I think the aluminum makes high school and collegiate baseball more exciting, but much more dangerous as well.
To me, the use of wood in the summer collegiate leagues, provides a logical transition for players with the potential for professional baseball.
Many of the relatively few players that go to Milb from high school and college never successfully make the transition to wood.
quote:Originally posted by Robert S.:quote:Originally posted by Ken Guthrie:
Joe Maddon played professional ball. I didn't say anything about having played in the big leagues and now coaching in the big leagues. Just used professional baseball as a whole.
Mike Hutcheon - His name didn't show up in a google search. He won a NCAA Natioinal Championship? Surely it would have shown up. Can you post a bio link?
http://www.goairforcefalcons.c...hutcheon_mike00.html
I know nothing of the man but the bio you offered, and I thank you for that.
In this case, I believe his athletic background is not of importance.
The mere fact he guides young men who protect me says more than any win or loss.
I assume your son is coached by Mr. Hutcheon. I hope the game of baseball will allow for joy away from what they really stand for which isn't a game at all.
My thanks to Mr. Hutcheon, his players, and to all the men who serve this country.
KG ....YOU BET ME TO IT....WELL SAID!
Mr. Hutcheons reqruiting style was nothing but "HONORABLE"...Many could learn from him.
God Bless all who serve!
Mr. Hutcheons reqruiting style was nothing but "HONORABLE"...Many could learn from him.
God Bless all who serve!
Jim Wells - U Alabama. Never played college, started coaching summer youth and worked into HS and college. Skip Bertman had him as one of his best on LSU staff and he took Tide from outhouse to CWS.
The guy was going to be a lawyer and decided to try baseball. Has about 1000 books and studied the game.
The guy was going to be a lawyer and decided to try baseball. Has about 1000 books and studied the game.
Chargerdad,
Thank you for articulating what so many us of here are thinking, and have grown tired of posting.
Thank you for articulating what so many us of here are thinking, and have grown tired of posting.
The fall is about exposure. The MSL gets more exposure than anything else around in the area. We did it last year and there were over 125 coaches there.
Thats it. Close this topic...
Thats it. Close this topic...
quote:Originally posted by HaltomScout:
OK - now that my head is full of (6) pages of more opinions that I bargained for ....
(great baseball knowledge)
The TSL (texas showcase league) says they do the same type of thing this fall as MSL, the games are actually at different jr colleges instead of one facility. So now we must decide which events to attend ..
anyone have experience with the MSL fall?
HS... As I stated in earlier posts... The MSL was a great tool from my son who played last fall. The great thing about having 4 games going at once is the scouts can wander between all four fields looking at players. They all are provided a roster of every kid.
I like most everyone here have spent a tremendous amount of money on my son's baseball. The MSL was one of the best. I would do it again in a heartbeat.
Mav - I agree with your comment that it was helpful to have 4 games at once in the same venue where scouts could keep an eye on multiple players on multiple fields at the same time. (see disclaimer)
A few of the dates were held at UTD last year (may have been rain out make-ups, don't remember). It was unfortunate if you were playing in the last game of the day at the single field because at that point many of the scouts understandably had already headed out after a long hot day of multiple games at one field.
Disclaimer - I am not a scout so I do not have personal knowledge, this is simply an observation and opinion.
A few of the dates were held at UTD last year (may have been rain out make-ups, don't remember). It was unfortunate if you were playing in the last game of the day at the single field because at that point many of the scouts understandably had already headed out after a long hot day of multiple games at one field.
Disclaimer - I am not a scout so I do not have personal knowledge, this is simply an observation and opinion.
Cheapo-
Agreed. UTD created a long day!
Panther Dad please lock this down...we all have tired head...Lets move to a new topic....Top 2018 2B from Parker County....
Agreed. UTD created a long day!
Panther Dad please lock this down...we all have tired head...Lets move to a new topic....Top 2018 2B from Parker County....
quote:Originally posted by cheapseats:
Mav - I agree with your comment that it was helpful to have 4 games at once in the same venue where scouts could keep an eye on multiple players on multiple fields at the same time. (see disclaimer)
A few of the dates were held at UTD last year (may have been rain out make-ups, don't remember). It was unfortunate if you were playing in the last game of the day at the single field because at that point many of the scouts understandably had already headed out after a long hot day of multiple games at one field.
Disclaimer - I am not a scout so I do not have personal knowledge, this is simply an observation and opinion.
I'm gonna miss seeing you and the Snake Dr. Keep me posted on CT. I know he's going to do great...
Mav - agreed, it was fun hanging out with you all this summer.
We are going to miss you, the horse whisperer and the big 'hitten Mav.
We are going to miss you, the horse whisperer and the big 'hitten Mav.
Ok, we'll stop the madness. Thanks all.
Thanks all.