More Fee only Showcase, camps and developmental clinics?

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Originally posted by RRF8:
I was told by a coach who runs another camp that D1 schools were not allowed to attend camps during this time. Could someone explain how so many could attend this camp if this is a quiet period?

Coaches are not allowed to scout or off campus recruit during the quiet period. They are allowed to attend camps as paid instructors. It's a way of skirting the rules yet still staying within them.

Why have the rules if they are so easily "skirted"?

If it important to have quiet times, then make it real. I am not supporting quiet times, the hypocrisy just seems needless in this case.

Kinda like not paying FIT and then getting to run the Treasury?

CPLZ - I stand corrected. Must have had old information. That is one of the benefits of this site - education by those in the know. Thanks for the head's up.

The people that i have spoken to who attended the Sparks/Cangelosi camp had nothing but positive things to say about their experience .

Great job guys !

I also have to agree with Tuzi --about the top 96 showcases not being so great --just what ive heard .

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Originally posted by bballdad1954:
Why have the rules if they are so easily "skirted"?

If it important to have quiet times, then make it real. I am not supporting quiet times, the hypocrisy just seems needless in this case.

The quiet period does work as intended. It's as much a chance for coaches to get a break and spend time with their families and keep institutional recruiting costs manageable, as it is giving the recruits a breather.

Coaches still wanted and should have the ability to make some ancillary income without the NCAA restricting that ability.

It's really not hypocrisy when you see the rule for its true intention rather than the most obvious meaning.

Makes sense to me. Thanks for explaning it so clearly.

Personally, I do not know how these guys do it. It is a very confusing process and the amount of time these guys put in just to follow players is very involved. My hat goes off to all of them.

Does anyone know who hizhonor (the guy who started this thread) is? For whatever reason he felt it necessary to track down my email and launch a personal attack on me claiming he is "Dale Gribbons"? Anyone know what the deal is with that? Thank you.

You're not the only one he's launched a personal attack against Nelson.

Each of the universities represented at the Cangelosi College Development camp got a letter claiming their school committed an NCAA violation by being in attendance. This couldn't be further from the truth because, as CPLZ explained, these coaches are paid instructors. They are paid to be there, their travel expenses are covered, their lodging covered, their meals covered, etc. Ergo they are instructing, not recruiting, and it is not an NCAA violation.

One of my coaching friends at one of the unversities in question forwarded me a copy of their letter their president received. The letter was signed by a lady in Oak Park, who claimed to be represented by a lawyer named Dale Gribbons. The e-mail address that the letter came from, however, was hizhonor555@yahoo.com, which, I bet if CoachB25 or MN-Mom looked, would be the same e-mail address used to register the account in question.

Sad really that one person or small group of people have an axe to grind against some of the finest members of the baseball community. In dealing with Bill Copp, Dave Payton and the folks at Cangelosi Baseball, I have found them to be some of the finest people to work with. They have provided myself and my players with some of the most unbelievable opportunities ever and it all started sight unseen. All Bill had to go on when he first called me was the recommendation of the Diamondbacks' Midwest Crosschecker, whom he met on a flight back from Jupiter. But he extended me an offer to send kids to the Cangelosi Camp last year and then worked with me to make our tournament top notch. He also provided my kids some great opportunities in the fall with the Wrigley Classic and the Illini Fall Ball Invitational.

At any rate, there are now several people trying to connect the dots, myself included. And when I do connect the dots, I plan on freelancing the story to either the Tribune or Sun-Times and exposing just how low some people will stoop.

Can't wait to hear the rest of this story!

Dale Gribbons...a quick google search turns up...

Manager - Florida Discount Vacuum & Sewing, Inc.

Ships Captain and Boat Builder Hey, we have that in common!

Dale Gribbons and is fine banjo sounds

Other than the ships captain, they all sound pretty innocuous.

Hey Ben,
Was the address of the lady from Oak Park legit?

This stuff just keeps getting more bizarre all the time......

This name does not match any licensed attorney in the State of Illinois per a search of the Attorney Registration and Disciplinary Commission.

It really is too bad that this person is out to discredit all these programs. My son had a great experience at this camp. I wouldn't trade it for anything.

I don't get all the infighting between these traveling teams. And why all the attacks against Cangy? My kid has worked at the dome and always gets a great workout, Billy C. is great. After a workout, you practcally have to tackle him and stuff money in his pocket. He does it for the love of the game. If this Hizhonor had such a problem he sure went about it the wrong way.

Nelson don't sweat it! the guy or guys involved in the personal attacks are probably just another traveling team taking cheap shots.
Are you still coaching with the Schaumburg Sems? How do they look this year?

Nelson might in fact know the person/persons involved in this nonsense ...whomever they might be

Mr. Nobody, could be?

Billy C. and Dave P. are above this nonsense.

Hmmmmm: New guy signs on Jan 29. Steps right in a and in more than one thread blasts the in fighting between travel teams. Then he asks Nelson if he is coaching for the Seminoles and how will they be this year.

Why ask a travel team question if you want to keep it about high school?

the jolietslammer seems to have habitated the web before under a different name. I don't know who, but he is not a new member.

bbaldad1954-

I think you are on to something.......

I agree with jolietslammer's post. Bill is very generous with his time and does a good job with Cangelosi. I'm sure it's appreciated by many.

I have no idea who it is, so I don't understand the post about me might knowing who it is.

I appreciate all of your feedback and at least I know I am not being singled out.

Nelson, its just that many of us who have been around the block have seen a certain youth coach enlist parents and assistant coaches to further his agenda. good luck to you