NLI signed, then offer pulled???

Technically, it can't.  The NLI binds the school to honoring the scholarship for the first year, regardless of the kid being on the team or not.

Yep.  I have seen this happen a bunch of times.  Especially when the Athletic Scholarship portion is only 1/4.  Even more so if the Athletic Scholarship is 0 and they are just helping get Academic $$$ to the kid.

A kid will be told they can still attend the school and be awarded the scholly $$$ for one year, but won't play Baseball.  Their choice.  The schools usually figure a kid will want to still play Ball and will pick another school.

This is an important lesson for everyone to grasp:  you have to get as much leverage as you can.  If a D1 is giving out a 1/2 Athletic Scholarship they are less likely to pull this stunt.  A full ride is usually only given to the elite pitchers and Blue Chip future 1st Round draft picks.  

I've been coaching for awhile now and coached for a year at one of the Academy programs.  I've seen the inside of the way these things work.   If a kid gets drafted and their goal is to play in the MLB I would usually advise them to go pro and skip college.  There are all kinds of shenanigans that happen in college Baseball.  MiLB is no picnic either, especially for 19 year olds in A Ball competing against mostly 22-23 year olds.

So it sounds like the NLI is technically "honored" (I hesitate to use that word is this situation), in that the kid gets his 25% COA for the first year, but (1)  no baseball; and (2) no money in years 2 and beyond. The school is right about one thing -- most kids will work hard to find somewhere else to go . . .

This is the big danger of kids making commitments in 8th or 9th Grade and the agreement is for just a 1/4 Athletic Scholarship.  Some schools will "sign" several of those kids and then see who develops and who doesn't.   Kid & Mom & Dad are beaming & proud, the Travel Academy Program gets to hype up one more "D1 Commit" as they carefully plan when to raise prices.   The kid is essentially tied up for several years and the college will pull the rug out at a time when the kid will have a difficult time finding another D1.  

Don't sign early for less than 1/2 Athletic money.  It is not worth the risk

CaCO3Girl posted:

Senior signed his D1 NLI, there was money involved, and last week the coach said he hadn't progressed enough (the kid had been offered in the last 12 months) offer was pulled.

Offered and signed last November, then pulled less than 6 months later for lack of progress? Did he regress?

Honestly, it sounds like it had nothing to do with the kid and everything to do with the Coach.  This really sucks for the kid.  A very similar situation happened to my oldest son's travel teammate at an SEC school.  Thankfully, the recruits father had experience with their older son (college coaching shenanigans) at another D1 in the ACC.  The younger son and father  had a backup plan, and immediately reached out to another D1 (Big Ten) program that had interest which took him.   It was a vastly better academic school for the young man's major and he started all  4 years.

BTW - Nuke83 is right.   If they wanted to press the issue the school would end up in honoring the scholarship terms.    But the coach knows this isn't going to happen. 

The kid gets his 25% the first year. The coach probably told the kid he doesn't see how he makes the roster. If the kid shows up on campus he has to sit out to transfer unless he transfers down. Unless it's a kid's academic dream school and ready to give up baseball he's never going to show up on campus. I'm guessing after the NLI was signed the coach found a 36th player he really wanted. 

RJM posted:

The kid gets his 25% the first year. The coach probably told the kid he doesn't see how he makes the roster. If the kid shows up on campus he has to sit out to transfer unless he transfers down. Unless it's a kid's academic dream school and ready to give up baseball he's never going to show up on campus. I'm guessing after the NLI was signed the coach found a 36th player he really wanted. 

Or he recruits like United books flights.

Second hand stories always are missing facts.  Coaches don't pull scholarships before the player shows up because he hasn't progressed.  Let's stop making the coaches the bad guys. I remember a player from sons HS team who was home schooled couldn't get an offer (he was pretty good). Mom said it was because he was home schooled. Real story is that he couldn't get passing grades even being at home. She didn't know some of us knew the real story.

Perhaps, one reason might be is that he hasn't progressed in the classroom.  Parents often don't want to tell others the truth, they find ways to skirt the truth. The truth here is that most frosh don't play much anyway, there is a developmental factor involved. This time next year he will be more of a stud, I don't buy that reason you were given.

How well do you know this person? 

TPM posted:

Second hand stories always are missing facts.  Coaches don't pull scholarships before the player shows up because he hasn't progressed.  Let's stop making the coaches the bad guys. I remember a player from sons HS team who was home schooled couldn't get an offer (he was pretty good). Mom said it was because he was home schooled. Real story is that he couldn't get passing grades even being at home. She didn't know some of us knew the real story.

Perhaps, one reason might be is that he hasn't progressed in the classroom.  Parents often don't want to tell others the truth, they find ways to skirt the truth. The truth here is that most frosh don't play much anyway, there is a developmental factor involved. This time next year he will be more of a stud, I don't buy that reason you were given.

How well do you know this person? 

To be clear, kid was offered in 11th grade, signed the NLI senior year, coach just pulled the offer.

I specifically asked if the kid had been arrested or started failing everything. The answer was that he hadn't been in any trouble and he's an honor role kid.  

I think RJM has the right of it, coach found someone he wanted more.  Kid was told they would honor the one year deal but he would never see the baseball field.

Unless the coach is an ass, I am not necessarily buying it because D1 coaches need good students also.  Of course he found someone else he liked better,  sounds like the player might have made some sort of deal and hasnt lived up to his part of the bargain.

On another note, for every story like this there is one where the player went back on his word.

Works both ways.

TPM posted:

Unless the coach is an ass . . . 

 

Never have those.  

TPM posted:

Unless the coach is an ass, I am not necessarily buying it because D1 coaches need good students also.  Of course he found someone else he liked better,  sounds like the player might have made some sort of deal and hasnt lived up to his part of the bargain.

On another note, for every story like this there is one where the player went back on his word.

Works both ways. 

You're a real piece of work. Are you as miserable in real life as you are here on the internet?

Perhaps there was a time (way back when) when you offered positive thoughts and assistance (and maybe even some good advice)? All I have ever seen from you since I've been here is a condescending & negative attitude towards anyone that isn't in your little 'old timer' clique, or doesn't agree with your point of view. You have quite the knack for pointing out the obvious in a very rude manner.

You really think anyone cares 'what you're buying'?

Isn't there some other chat board out there where you can spew your negativity, constantly pat yourself on the back and maybe even be appreciated for it? Cuz let me tell you.....cupcake, there aint many here that do!

Golfman25 posted:

TPM posted:

Unless the coach is an ass . . . 

 

Never have those.  

Nope, never have cocky 17 year old know it alls either. Just simply unheard of!

DesertDuck posted:

TPM posted:

Unless the coach is an ass, I am not necessarily buying it because D1 coaches need good students also.  Of course he found someone else he liked better,  sounds like the player might have made some sort of deal and hasnt lived up to his part of the bargain.

On another note, for every story like this there is one where the player went back on his word.

Works both ways. 

You're a real piece of work. Are you as miserable in real life as you are here on the internet?

Perhaps there was a time (way back when) when you offered positive thoughts and assistance (and maybe even some good advice)? All I have ever seen from you since I've been here is a condescending & negative attitude towards anyone that isn't in your little 'old timer' clique, or doesn't agree with your point of view. You have quite the knack for pointing out the obvious in a very rude manner.

You really think anyone cares 'what you're buying'? there some other chat board out there where you can spew your negativity, constantly pat yourself on the back and maybe even be appreciated for it? Cuz let me tell you.....cupcake, there aint many here that do!

TPM knows more than a majority of people on this board. How many posters have a kid who was recruited to a ranked major program, was drafted as a top prospect, made it to AAA, went back as a volunteer assistant at his college to graduate, then became an assistant coach in charge of recruiting? Not all situations are the same. But between your kid and his teammates you learn a lot. Now he's a coach.

Keeping in line with what TPM posted ...

A travel teammate of my son signed an NLI for 50% in the fall. The coach called him in the spring to say if he didn't pass (become NCAA eligible) the SAT the next time don't bother to show up in the fall. Some coaches are no nonsense about this stuff. There aren't second chances. There are too many players to choose from to bother with questionable situations. 

RJM posted:

DesertDuck posted:

TPM posted:

Unless the coach is an ass, I am not necessarily buying it because D1 coaches need good students also.  Of course he found someone else he liked better,  sounds like the player might have made some sort of deal and hasnt lived up to his part of the bargain.

On another note, for every story like this there is one where the player went back on his word.

Works both ways. 

You're a real piece of work. Are you as miserable in real life as you are here on the internet?

Perhaps there was a time (way back when) when you offered positive thoughts and assistance (and maybe even some good advice)? All I have ever seen from you since I've been here is a condescending & negative attitude towards anyone that isn't in your little 'old timer' clique, or doesn't agree with your point of view. You have quite the knack for pointing out the obvious in a very rude manner.

You really think anyone cares 'what you're buying'? there some other chat board out there where you can spew your negativity, constantly pat yourself on the back and maybe even be appreciated for it? Cuz let me tell you.....cupcake, there aint many here that do!

TPM knows more than a majority of people on this board. How many posters have a kid who was recruited to a ranked major program, was drafted as a top prospect, made it to AAA, went back as a volunteer assistant at his college to graduate, then became an assistant coach in charge of recruiting? Not all situations are the same. But between your kid and his teammates you learn a lot. Now he's a coach.

As I re-read my post I can't find where I mentioned that she doesn't know a lot or that her kid wasn't a really good, fortunate ball player? 

Care to lend a hand?

I think most of us have been here long enough to hear of her son's accolades from her (as well as others). Just figured it was my turn to point out the obvious in a really rude manner. Seems to be well accepted from her? Or do I have to wait 'til my kid makes it to AAA before I am allowed to do that?

DesertDuck posted:

TPM posted:

Unless the coach is an ass, I am not necessarily buying it because D1 coaches need good students also.  Of course he found someone else he liked better,  sounds like the player might have made some sort of deal and hasnt lived up to his part of the bargain.

On another note, for every story like this there is one where the player went back on his word.

Works both ways. 

You're a real piece of work. Are you as miserable in real life as you are here on the internet?

Perhaps there was a time (way back when) when you offered positive thoughts and assistance (and maybe even some good advice)? All I have ever seen from you since I've been here is a condescending & negative attitude towards anyone that isn't in your little 'old timer' clique, or doesn't agree with your point of view. You have quite the knack for pointing out the obvious in a very rude manner.

You really think anyone cares 'what you're buying'?

Isn't there some other chat board out there where you can spew your negativity, constantly pat yourself on the back and maybe even be appreciated for it? Cuz let me tell you.....cupcake, there aint many here that do!

What is it that you dont like that I said?  

You seem to have taken this pretty personally. Do you know that player?

Most coaches work really hard to find the right fit for their program. Sometimes they make mistakes. Most own up to that mistake and after a year, they let the player go if their hunch was wrong. Most programs have compliance issues to deal with. The player, if he stays is still a counter, the coach cannot fill his roster spot. This possibly opens the program up to scrutiny.  Some coaches, yes are real pieces of work.  Many, who dont want the player, just let them sit, then the player leaves on his own, problem solved. No issues to deal with and they dont have to answer to anyone.  The coach did the player a favor. 

I wasn't privey to the conversation between player and coach. Were you?  I dont believe everything I hear, do you?

Then there are players who committ, then find better programs, better fits. Many folks think thats ok, to change your mind. But its NOT ok for a coach to do the same.

Once again, it works both ways.

Yes, there is a lesson to be learned in all of this. But many just dont get it.

Thats not condescending, thats the truth.

Quack back at ya, ducky!

Duck,

Where in this topic did I mention my sons accomplishments?  Or please pm me with when I have mentioned at anytime to you regarding that?

I wasnt rude, you were. Don't ever drop that cupcake sexist line again, if you wish to remain a part of this community. 

TPM posted:

DesertDuck posted:

TPM posted:

Unless the coach is an ass, I am not necessarily buying it because D1 coaches need good students also.  Of course he found someone else he liked better,  sounds like the player might have made some sort of deal and hasnt lived up to his part of the bargain.

On another note, for every story like this there is one where the player went back on his word.

Works both ways. 

You're a real piece of work. Are you as miserable in real life as you are here on the internet?

Perhaps there was a time (way back when) when you offered positive thoughts and assistance (and maybe even some good advice)? All I have ever seen from you since I've been here is a condescending & negative attitude towards anyone that isn't in your little 'old timer' clique, or doesn't agree with your point of view. You have quite the knack for pointing out the obvious in a very rude manner.

You really think anyone cares 'what you're buying'?

Isn't there some other chat board out there where you can spew your negativity, constantly pat yourself on the back and maybe even be appreciated for it? Cuz let me tell you.....cupcake, there aint many here that do!

What is it that you dont like that I said?  

You seem to have taken this pretty personally. Do you know that player?

Most coaches work really hard to find the right fit for their program. Sometimes they make mistakes. Most own up to that mistake and after a year, they let the player go if their hunch was wrong. Most programs have compliance issues to deal with. The player, if he stays is still a counter, the coach cannot fill his roster spot. This possibly opens the program up to scrutiny.  Some coaches, yes are real pieces of work.  Many, who dont want the player, just let them sit, then the player leaves on his own, problem solved. No issues to deal with and they dont have to answer to anyone.  The coach did the player a favor. 

I wasn't privey to the conversation between player and coach. Were you?  I dont believe everything I hear, do you?

Then there are players who committ, then find better programs, better fits. Many folks think thats ok, to change your mind. But its NOT ok for a coach to do the same.

Once again, it works both ways.

Yes, there is a lesson to be learned in all of this. But many just dont get it.

Thats not condescending, thats the truth.

Quack back at ya, ducky!

 

 

I just find it sad that a person with your experience and knowledge base seems to always be so demeaning to others that don't have the same or just come here for help and assistance with situations they find themselves in or questions they have. Just seems to me that you go out of your way to make people feel dumb or stupid for the questions they ask......that's all. Nothing personal.

TPM posted:

Duck,

Where in this topic did I mention my sons accomplishments?  Or please pm me with when I have mentioned at anytime to you regarding that?

I wasnt rude, you were. Don't ever drop that cupcake sexist line again, if you wish to remain a part of this community. 

 

 

Are you threatening me?

'In my opinion' you are very rude, rather often (like I mentioned above). Shall start a poll so you can see how many agree with me?

And the word 'cupcake' is not sexist, more like a term of endearment. 

I find it sad that you had to get nasty for no reason.

YOU must be havin a bad night.

DesertDuck posted:

TPM posted:

Duck,

Where in this topic did I mention my sons accomplishments?  Or please pm me with when I have mentioned at anytime to you regarding that?

I wasnt rude, you were. Don't ever drop that cupcake sexist line again, if you wish to remain a part of this community. 

 

 

Shall I start a poll so you can see how many agree with me?

 

If that makes you feel better about yourself, go for it.

Play nice children.....

Seriously....Let it go.....Way off topic.   No need to get personal......

Really wish  we had ALL the details.  We have the gist but they say the devil is the details.  Was it the asshole coach?  Did the kid get banged drinking at the prom?  I mean it could be anything.  Again....Black and white question when it is never that simple.

If this experience tells me anything it is :

A) Never Trust a coach.   They are in a business to win championships.  And they don't want to become unemployed.     B) Even if you have a signed NLI it appears that its still never a lock.  DONT let up your last year.  Work as hard on the last day as you did the first day.  Don't give any school a reason to want to back out.     C) Even if you do A and B, there is still a horrible chance of it falling apart.

Heart goes out to the athlete.  Hopefully he latches on.  Would the OP keep us updated if he finds another home?

Kevin A posted:

Play nice children.....

Seriously....Let it go.....Way off topic.   No need to get personal......

Really wish  we had ALL the details.  We have the gist but they say the devil is the details.  Was it the asshole coach?  Did the kid get banged drinking at the prom?  I mean it could be anything.  Again....Black and white question when it is never that simple.

If this experience tells me anything it is :

A) Never Trust a coach.   They are in a business to win championships.  And they don't want to become unemployed.     B) Even if you have a signed NLI it appears that its still never a lock.  DONT let up your last year.  Work as hard on the last day as you did the first day.  Don't give any school a reason to want to back out.     C) Even if you do A and B, there is still a horrible chance of it falling apart.

Heart goes out to the athlete.  Hopefully he latches on.  Would the OP keep us updated if he finds another home?

I agree, should never have gone off topic.

You are right, one never really knows what really happens.  

I'm not on board with never trust a coach. I'm more on board with "hear the truth, not what you want to hear and believe to be the truth."

RJM posted:

I'm not on board with never trust a coach. I'm more on board with "hear the truth, not what you want to hear and believe to be the truth."

I agree.  If a player does everthing he is supposed to be doing, he shouldnt have to worry. What he is supposed to be doing will include lots of different things.

TPM posted:

RJM posted:

I'm not on board with never trust a coach. I'm more on board with "hear the truth, not what you want to hear and believe to be the truth."

I agree.  If a player does everthing he is supposed to be doing, he shouldnt have to worry. What he is supposed to be doing will include lots of different things.

I can't agree with this.  There are so many things out of the players control, specifically, other people.  Just because the player is doing what he is suppose to be doing doesn't mean he is safe.  

CaCO3Girl posted:

TPM posted:

RJM posted:

I'm not on board with never trust a coach. I'm more on board with "hear the truth, not what you want to hear and believe to be the truth."

I agree.  If a player does everthing he is supposed to be doing, he shouldnt have to worry. What he is supposed to be doing will include lots of different things.

I can't agree with this.  There are so many things out of the players control, specifically, other people.  Just because the player is doing what he is suppose to be doing doesn't mean he is safe.  

I wouldn't say never trust ANY coach.   I would say know who and what you are dealing with.   Just as some people are utter  assholes and some are true mensches, same is true for coaches.  There are some great coaches, who have their players backs, and teach and are true leaders.  Then there are those coaches who are just  little men with big problems.   You find all kinds -- especially coaching HS, and even more so coaching Travel.  In HS, the  rewards are, well, minimal and the motivations can be a mixed bag.  Some HS coaches in this area -- where few of them are full time teaching staff -- are basically out to recruit paying customers for their travel teams.  (there are some rules designed to prevent this sort of thing, but they are not that hard to get around.)    Those guys are, frankly,  the worst.  Plus there are so many formers this and thats around here -- this being a hotbed of baseball -- and so many of them trying to make a buck off their baseball knowledge, that  you got be careful  (especially in the Travel landscape) that you are actually getting your money's worth.   

One thing about HS coaching, at least in this parts, is that it isn't really a profession.  It's not some full time thing to which guys devote their entire professional lives.   And it's not like there  is a professional association to set standards of excellence or a super lot of continuing education that gives HS coaches a chance to perfect their skills, learn the latest techniques, undergo state wide or national certification.   Again, there are tons of HS coaches in this area who try to make their real money off their club teams.   That is a recipe for disaster and conflicts of  interests and hidden agendas.    

All in all,  I wouldn't say it's  super hard to figure out the lay of the land.  But you do have to be diligent.    Wearing the coach's jersey isn't much of a guarantee of anything, really.   HS of a rival school to my son's former HS  has been through like 4 coaches in 5 years.  The current one seems like he may stick.   I think each of the fired coaches -- all of whom were basically booted as a result of player and parent uprising -- deserved the boot from what I can tell.   

I had thought thought that any player receiving an athletic scholarship was considered a "counter" toward the 35-man roster limit according to NCAA rules. If the player was cut from the team but kept his scholarship, would the team then have a roster limit of 34?  It's hard to see how this would benefit the coach or the team. 

Here's a discussion from 4 years ago...

community.hsbaseballweb.com/topic/d1-coach-pulling our son's NLI. Do a search on topic if link doesnt work.

I stand by the position there are 2 sides to every story.

CaCO3Girl posted:

TPM posted:

RJM posted:

I'm not on board with never trust a coach. I'm more on board with "hear the truth, not what you want to hear and believe to be the truth."

I agree.  If a player does everthing he is supposed to be doing, he shouldnt have to worry. What he is supposed to be doing will include lots of different things.

I can't agree with this.  There are so many things out of the players control, specifically, other people.  Just because the player is doing what he is suppose to be doing doesn't mean he is safe.  

It's OK to disagree.

I haven't included the talent factor. Very talented players get more chances. But if a player controls what he can, coaches notice that. 

Keep in mind that players are always being watched.  Umpires, HS coaches, college coaches, scouts, advisors all are watching. Baseball is a very big small, small world.

Also, all of this has a lot to do with recruiting. Players and their parents have to be honest with the process. If PG ranks you a 7, and a top 25 program gives you some money, not a lot, but some, could be that you would be a roster filler. Go where you think you will make an impact, not where you would sit. I am not saying this happened in this case, but something happened.

TPM posted:

Here's a discussion from 4 years ago...

community.hsbaseballweb.com/topic/d1-coach-pulling our son's NLI. Do a search on topic if link doesnt work.

I stand by the position there are 2 sides to every story.

 

Thanks, TPM.  Tons of great info in that thread.  So it sounds like technically once the NLI is signed, a coach cannot "pull the offer."  The player and the college have to mutually agree to dissolve the agreement.  If the player refuses to to release the school from the NLI, the school must still cover the athletic scholarship and count the player as part of their 35-man roster, but can refuse for him to even attend practice, let alone play in games.  Basically the coach in question is hoping this player will want to play baseball badly enough to agree to dissolve the NLI and go elsewhere.  Do I have this right?  Or is the NLI non-binding until the scholarship $$ are actually assigned?

Enjoying the Ride posted:

TPM posted:

Here's a discussion from 4 years ago...

community.hsbaseballweb.com/topic/d1-coach-pulling our son's NLI. Do a search on topic if link doesnt work.

I stand by the position there are 2 sides to every story.

 

Thanks, TPM.  Tons of great info in that thread.  So it sounds like technically once the NLI is signed, a coach cannot "pull the offer."  The player and the college have to mutually agree to dissolve the agreement.  If the player refuses to to release the school from the NLI, the school must still cover the athletic scholarship and count the player as part of their 35-man roster, but can refuse for him to even attend practice, let alone play in games.  Basically the coach in question is hoping this player will want to play baseball badly enough to agree to dissolve the NLI and go elsewhere.  Do I have this right?  Or is the NLI non-binding until the scholarship $$ are actually assigned?

The situation you described is whey happened in this case.  They will give him the 1 year money but it would be better for the kid to move on now and start fresh somewhere.

Enjoying the Ride posted:

TPM posted:

Here's a discussion from 4 years ago...

community.hsbaseballweb.com/topic/d1-coach-pulling our son's NLI. Do a search on topic if link doesnt work.

I stand by the position there are 2 sides to every story.

 

Thanks, TPM.  Tons of great info in that thread.  So it sounds like technically once the NLI is signed, a coach cannot "pull the offer."  The player and the college have to mutually agree to dissolve the agreement.  If the player refuses to to release the school from the NLI, the school must still cover the athletic scholarship and count the player as part of their 35-man roster, but can refuse for him to even attend practice, let alone play in games.  Basically the coach in question is hoping this player will want to play baseball badly enough to agree to dissolve the NLI and go elsewhere.  Do I have this right?  Or is the NLI non-binding until the scholarship $$ are actually assigned?

Yes, that is how it works. A coach is not authorized to void or cancel the agreement. The NLI isn't actually valid until the player fulfills the commitments, mainly maintaining eligibility until graduation.

Yes, coaches tell players they don't have money, don't show up. Can't do that, but the coach has made it clear he doesn't want the player. The player can still attend, receive the money, which ties it up for the program.

Some coaches aren't good at recruiting and being able to make the numbers work. They also over recruit.  It's a skill. Most of these programs will not ask an NLI player to not attend, but rather limit scholarship years to those they expect to get drafted or not.

To use my own sons personal story, he was given a sizeable scholarship, with the understanding it's for 3 years, so you better get drafted, or you will pay. We agreed. And the coaches did everything they could to help the player to get drafted.  

Personally, after all of these years, I don't know of one player who lost their NLI, I know it happens.

CaCO3Girl posted:

Enjoying the Ride posted:

TPM posted:

Here's a discussion from 4 years ago...

community.hsbaseballweb.com/topic/d1-coach-pulling our son's NLI. Do a search on topic if link doesnt work.

I stand by the position there are 2 sides to every story.

 

Thanks, TPM.  Tons of great info in that thread.  So it sounds like technically once the NLI is signed, a coach cannot "pull the offer."  The player and the college have to mutually agree to dissolve the agreement.  If the player refuses to to release the school from the NLI, the school must still cover the athletic scholarship and count the player as part of their 35-man roster, but can refuse for him to even attend practice, let alone play in games.  Basically the coach in question is hoping this player will want to play baseball badly enough to agree to dissolve the NLI and go elsewhere.  Do I have this right?  Or is the NLI non-binding until the scholarship $$ are actually assigned?

The situation you described is whey happened in this case.  They will give him the 1 year money but it would be better for the kid to move on now and start fresh somewhere.

They HAVE to give it to him, if he decides to attend.

Also, the coach has to answer to his AD (as I mentioned yesterday). If you aren't on his good list, you better have a really good reason. They don't want to answer to the NCAA.

This all makes sense, thanks.  The timing seems odd, though.  If the school is potentially on the hook for the scholarship money/35- man roster counter anyway, why not wait until the fall to see if the player has "progressed enough" by then before deciding to cut him loose?  It seems like they must have another player they want to offer the money to now, and are hoping the player will agree to dissolve the NLI and free up the scholarship.  

Enjoying the Ride posted:

This all makes sense, thanks.  The timing seems odd, though.  If the school is potentially on the hook for the scholarship money/35- man roster counter anyway, why not wait until the fall to see if the player has "progressed enough" by then before deciding to cut him loose?  It seems like they must have another player they want to offer the money to now, and are hoping the player will agree to dissolve the NLI and free up the scholarship.  

IMO opinion it is odd. The draft hasn't occurred and the season hasn't ended. 

The good thing is that he has given him time to find a new home.

FWIW, for those who don't know, Prepster's son is Robert Woodard, p coach at UNC. 

The impression that I'm getting is that this particular kid was offered with very little scouting.  Perhaps the more the coach saw/heard the less the coach liked. I'm getting the impression that the kid had one tool, speed.  And his other tools didn't match up in the long term vision.