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I watched 8 years of baseball at our HS with my two boys. I could not go to all the games or practices, but whenever I could, I would go. My dad never saw me play or practice until I was in Pro Ball, and so I not only went to baseball practice whenever I could, but I went to basketball practice and games too. We have 3 kids, and they liked it whenever myself or my wife showed up to watch whatever they were doing.Had a kid in the HS for 12 straight years and never had a problem with any of the coaches or teachers.
Bighit15,

Amen.

Some of the other players told my son that they wished their parents cared what they did. Some might say I need to get a life. I do, it's my family. I guess if they can say we are "meddlesome" or "not letting our kids grow", we can say they "don't love their kids". laugh Sounds kind of silly doesn't it. duel
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I watched my sons practices and stayed out of the way for 4 years. Now, since he's in college I will only be able to watch some games because of the distance involved. There's a family issue that a coach has no right being involved in. If I'm out of the way and not disrupting his practice, he's the one wasting valuable practice time worrying about me.
...so this thing gets loose from the Texas thread and the guy from Oklahoma posts here that he sits in the dug out and everyone THINKS he is joking.

In Texas, we know that in Oklahoma they sit in the dugout with the son wearing their old high school jersey.

...sometimes they have even been known to switch
jerseys and play an inning or two.

Coaches never noticed...........
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Definitely go to every practice and game that you can. It shows the coach and players that everyone is interested in the program. It builds commaraderie amongst the parents, everyone sees who has the talent and where the team stands for the year.

Don't go on day-1.
Try to go when scrimages start.
When you are there, keep your distance from the field and the players. Stay far enough back that you cannot hear the coach when he speaks. Never do any coaching or hoorahing "good hit johnny", "run hard johnny".
Never offer advice to the coach.
When practice is over, go get in your car.
JMHO

Knowledge is Power! Thank you Mavens and HSBBWEB!
I started the thread in the Texas forum because I know it always gets a lot of opinions.

I will go to my son's practices, as many as I can make. TR, to your point about who works anymore, well, as long as I have my cell phone I am working, which means 24/7, and if I happen to be working at the baseball field, so be it.

You have a finite number of days with your sons and daughters. I have learned this the hard way. When my son was younger, the only time we seemed to spend together was baseball. Other than that, I was working 7 days a week.

I have in the past 5 years gone through a divorce and a long drawn out custody battle for my son. I learned my lesson.

I attend every function my son has, school related or not. Do I smother him, heck no. My son expects it. We have become very close.

Plus, to see my son do things with a baseball and a bat is absolutely amazing. Things I was never able to do, that most people aren't able to do. I'm proud of my son, for his 103 average in school, for his ability to become class president and for his ability to hit and throw a baseball. But most importantly, for him being such a fine young man.

And I will spend as much time as I can with him

Some people need to listen to "Cat in the Cradle" again.
...switching jerseys is just one of the things learned in our baseball classes down south.

Not having baseball class up nawth hampers things there a bit, but I suspect now that OU has posted this outside of the Texas Forum and the cat is out of the bag there's gonna be a lot digging in those old storage trunks in the basement up there....................

Just another adult baseball option, you know.............

...but before you slip that jersey on, you need to know that to play in the starting nine, you have to hit. Ask bbscout.

It don't matter if you are rotational or linear if the ball is in the mitt before you move they may ask to check the lineup a little closer.

The reason that I know about this is because OPP down in Waco told me about it.
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I was going to post until HeyBatter said it better than I was going to. Reading further, I've got two comments:
1) It reads as though for those who come and watch, it's "about me."
2) For those who don't watch practices, it's "about my son."
...and a couple of qualifications before more corks pop: If it's actually the custom in your area for parents to attend practices, and a lot of parents are there, milling around, that's OK. And scrimmages or other "special" activities which attract lots of parents, are different too. But if it's just you lurking around behind the screen, trust me: you're creeping your son and his teammates out. Big time.
And that's coming from a guy who's been known to arrive a few minutes early to pick his kid up, and just casually glance around the field, acting innocent...

D'oh!
I'll have to agree with "Chicks Rules" up above and, on the personal side, I've watched and coached to many of the young men from Varsity down not to catch parts of practice now and then. Also, Coolthis is just another reason to be involved at levels besides your sons, people get used to seeing you and don't think twice about it.
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Well, a lot of perspectives on this subject. And good ones at that.

For me. I like to sit and watch. I usually will find the ****hest place from the field and watch practice. And then there are times that I sit close. I don't speak or make a noise. I just like to watch. The coach doesn't mind. Now there have been parents that will stand real close to the field and distract the players when the player made a play during practice and the coach put and end to that during our next parent's meeting.

My boys don't mind. They never have said anything to me about it. Coach has even asked for me and a couple other parents to come sit in the dugout during batting practice and just chat to get our perspective on how the season is going. He is a very good coach and my boys have learned so much and so have I.

I also know that in our region some coaches do not allow parents to even come close to the field until practice ends. To each his own, I guess.
I've been divorced over 10 years, and my son lives 70 miles away. KellerDad is 100% correct. So was Harry Chapin. They are only kids once. I seldom make practice, but I make nearly every game, home or away. Work can wait. Last year I had a Senior and an 8th grader on the team. This year, just the Freshman. He's been told by the coach that he'll probably be a starter. I'll make nearly every game this year too. I'd be there if he was a bench warmer.

But having coached summer ball for all 3 of my sons, I know that a coach doesn't need any advice from a parent. This year's new coach already knows who I am and that I don't interfere with coaches. My view is, go if you want to, but keep your mouth shut. Watch. Enjoy. Remember the days of your youth. But don't "help" the coach. If he needs help, he'll call you.
A good coach, loves to have people watch practice. Afterall, they're watching him work. If you know what you're doing, why would someone watching bother you. Of course, that's if they don't interfer with what's taking place on the field.

I went to my sons practices whenever I could. If they or the coach would have told me they would rather I didn't, I wouldn't have. If it were to bother anyone else, that would be their problem. Once in a great while, I would see something that could help my sons. If so, we would talk about, in private, at a later time. Never once talked about the coach or team mates in a negative way.

So IMO there's nothing wrong with watching practice unless your son or the coach would be against it and you watch without intruding. To be honest, if they were against, I would have found a way to watch it anyway, even through binoculars, if need be.
One of the more active posts in quit some time.
I can see both sides of the situation and think it really depends on each individual situation.

My son enjoys it when I am at the park to watch. I sit in my car and never say anything. At the coach's first parent meeting each year he spells out what he expects and staying quiet during practice is addressed.

This is my sons senior year and I will attend as many practices and games as I can. I keep my mouth shut even when I do disagree with what I see.

If a player prefers the parent stays away at practice at the high school level I think parents should respect that. The practice is for them not us so I feel that we should respect that.

Fortunatly for me my son likes it when I am there for baseball...... Now basketball is another story. He wants me to stay away so I do.

I don't think there is a blanket answer for the question.

Seadog

The choices we make dictate the lives we lead.
Personally I feel that if my parents or if any parent wants to watch the occasional or every practise it's cool, jsut so long as they don't interfere, I've had parents on teams that jsut idly sit and watch or maybe converse with other parents, which is great cause they aren't disrupting anything, but one you get the loud mouthed parent in there that tries to hlep out the coach but really hinders what the coach is doing than those types of parents shouldn't be allowed at practices. Thats JMHO from a players viewpoint

I never threw an illegal pitch. The trouble is, once in a while I toss one that ain't never been seen by this generation
FO you are killing me laugh

I have attended all my sons practices from LL on up..I worked 8-2 and it was not feasible to go back home so I parked, watched, listened to the "oldies" and napped...I was never one for just dumping my son at practice and then scooting..I loved each and every minute of it...I chauffered kids home...lent money and cell phone for those in need...and on numerous occasions was pressed into action with medical emergencies..I never interferred(couldn't I don't know enough)and as I would not expect the coach to instruct me on how to insert a foley catheter I would presume to tell him how to coach...when he played AAU those parents who could not travel would say how comforted they were knowing I was going as I not only watched out for my own but for everyones son...I only hope that now, when he is 8 hours away, someone is watching over him

Life is not measured by the number of breaths we take, but by the moments that take our breath away.
Seadog,

I agree

Basketball practice was tough for me to watch because they locked all the doors. You can always find a spot to watch baseball practice. I think it might be best if nobody knows you're watching. I was lucky that our HS baseball coach was a good friend. He would sometimes, after practice had ended, ask a question and that's the only time I would say anything.
IMHO,

TRHit is right - He is most of the time.

There is no reason for parents to be at a practice. All that can do is cause problems.

I can see it now:
Dad: Junior, I don't like what the coach is telling you about your hitting. Do XYZ.
Junior: Dad the coach wants me to try ABC.

In the meantime the coach is watching this go on.

Parents need to go to games and let the coaches coach the kids - not the other way around. If you want to coach - put on the uniform and get on the field.

That brings me to another point that I'm not sure has been addressed here since I did not read all the threads.

I heard Valdosta High School football coach Rick Darlington speak at a church breakfast this morning. Quick backgroud is the Valdosta HS has won many "national championships." In his first year he started 1-3. Wow!

He told the kids to not listen to what anyone said about the team or his program. The negativeity would bring the team down. He told the kids to continue to work hard and good things will happen.

His team lost in the state championship game to end the season 11-4. Those kids didn;t listen to mom and dad, who "knew" more than the coach. If the parents are not at practice they have less of a chance of second guessing the coach. And parents should remember - no matter how bad they thing the coach is that whenever they tell that to their child (in any sport) the player will have less respect for the coaches, which in turn brings down the team.

Let coaches coach and parents cheer - not jeer.

Bob Pincus
Head Coach
Central Florida Renegades
www.eteamz.com/centralfloridarenegades
RobPincus@aol.com
This really just proves what a very diversified group we are...And what a good thing that is!!

Although I agree with all that suggested a practice is no place for parents...those are my life's experiences(great post HV biglaugh). My son would have found it odd/disconcerting because those would be his life's experiences...

I have developed too much respect for a couple of posters who view this differently...ie> catchermom, FrankF, PGStaff and OUBsbmom
<I remember last year's debate vividly>
to pigeonhole the whole notion of attending or not attending.......TRHit you are right...different strokes for different folks.

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By the time you learn how to play the game...
You can't play it anymore ~ Frank Howard
Florida Baseball Guy- Please readthe whole thread. No one has said anything about wanting to coach from the sidelines. As PG has stated-
don't know too many GOOD coaches who would not want an audience. It comes with the territory I think.

Dad04-You're the pro and I'm giving you strokes???? Guess again.

Moc1
Not much you can do. As a coach what are you going to do forbid them to be there. What one might feel is a healthy interest another might feel it is meddling. In some cases it is bad enough that some of the parents come to the games because they become overbearing and cause problems. I am sure in that case the coach and maybe even the player would cringe if they come to practice and behave the same. Every situation is different. The coach has to use common sense . The parent also.
Just because a parent is at practice does not mean that he/she is there to second guess the coach!! I go to all of my sons functions and he does not mind if he did I would stay home. The coach does not mind either as he is confident of his coaching abilities and knows that we are there to support and not question his program.
I see no problem with parents being at practice.
Also all last week there was a pretty good audience at the field as there was 3 major leaguers working out with the boys. Sean Lowe (pitcher), Jason Jennings (pitcher) and Daylon Holt (otfielder). Oh and by the way there dads were there watching also!!! NO KIDDING.
I think that if a coach does not want people there watching then that shows a lack of confidence. Having said that I also believe that if a parent is there to second guess then that most definatly is a major problem and most coaches will recognize the troublemakers and should deal with them accordingly.
All GOOD coaches do NOT need an audience, believe me.
And to suggest that a coach who does not invite parents to attend practices is not confident is way off the mark.
Sorry......these statements are just too broad to let go.

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By the time you learn how to play the game...
You can't play it anymore ~ Frank Howard
OK, Here goes. Again I would ask you that feel that you should not attend any practices, What about a situation as I had stated before?

After years of developement as a pitcher, Including private lessons, You see a different tact in the coaching of your kid. Someone comes along that you do not feel comfortable with, Changes his mechanics and approach of the game your son plays. Do you sit idly by and go along with it?

I am glad I spoke to the head coach and the pitching coach AFTER practice. We were able to hash things out. Call me a meddler but, I will stand by what I did.

"Everybody kind of perceives me as being angry. It's not anger, it's motivation." Roger Clemens



It seems odd to me that I can go to nearly any college or high school in the country and watch practice. In fact, I watched Key West high school workout this month. Yet, I shouldn't go watch my sons high school team practice?

Maybe someone should start a topic about "how to watch practice" rather than "whether or not parents should watch practice". Then again, some are covering that topic here. How about a topic about "How to watch the games"?

I've seen lots of people that should be disallowed to attend the games, let alone practice.
This is funny, cause I've never even considered going to a pratice. I go to every game, home and away, but never pratice. Why would a parent want to see players lifting, running and endless pitching drills? I'm falling asleep just thinking about it.

Now if this is a question about trust, safety, and immoral acts, that is a totally different matter. Not only should the parents be there, but the AD and local police.

Bullwinkle is going commando.
Chill,
I did not mean to suggest that a GOOD coach NEEDS an audience. My point was that if a coach is confident and secure with his program and what he is teaching then he should not mind an audience, believe me! If he does NOT want an audience and tells the parents not to come to practice then that says to me that he lacks confidence in what he is doing.
What is broad about that concept????????
Why would a coach not want people at the practice. Provided the weren't having a negative influence on the practice??
I go as often as I can and I am certainly not alone at our school. There are at least 8-10 Dads there for almost every practice so far. No interference, simply a bunch of fathers that love baseball and love watching their sons play.

No complaints from my son, we will talk about practice later over dinner but I would never dare to interfere when the boys are on the field.
TRHit-
Forget getting blasted...you are ABSOLUTELY RIGHT! Parents should sit in the stands and enjoy the short time they have to watch their son play. It will be over soon enough. I know my dad says all the time that he wishes he could go back and watch his kids play one more game...now he's ready to get his fix with my son (tee-ball this summer!).
Parents will not help their kid by getting in the way of the coach. I have never learned a thing from parents that tried to be promoters of their kid, but I have watched many players and teams crumble under the weight of unrealistic expectations by parents who want to live their dream through their kid.
Moms & Dads- Be great cheerleaders. Support the team...but let the coaches do our jobs!
Coach Knight,
Yhanks for making my point as that is exactly what I do when I come to watch practice. I and 90% of the others parents that are there come to watch there kids play as much as they can because iy will be over soon enough!!!! So having said that tell me again why I should stay away from practice and only attend a GAME and then just sit in the stands and sign the checks!!! Maybe some of you coaches should get over yourselves!! And realize that the parents support is just as important as anything else.

That's enough from me about this. I'm off to waych my son practice
Chill,

Thanks for your kind words. As has been mentioned by several posters on this thread, our perception of parents attending or not attending practices is based upon OUR personal life experiences where we live and where our boys play ball. While my stance is that I really enjoyed watching my son's high school team practice (not just my son although I naturally focused on him more than the others) I would never tell anyone with a different viewpoint that they are wrong to believe the way they do. I personally went because it gave me a chance to unwind after work...yes, I do work and I get off at 4:00 and I just enjoy being outdoors on nice spring afternoons (of course it's a lot more pleasant here than where many of the websters live). I had a chance to visit with other parents and we just enjoyed watching the action on the field from up on the hill away from the bleachers and the fences. We didn't critique the coaches or players. It was understood what was acceptable behavior and what wasn't and there weren't any problems.

My advice to parents entering this phase of their son's baseball experience would be to see how he feels about it and to be honest with your reasons for wanting to attend. If you can both agree that it's a good thing, then go for it and don't worry what others might think. Smile

Again, it doesn't bother me at all whether a parent chooses to watch their son's team practice or not because I am not in a position to pass judgment on anyone but it annoys the heck out of me to read posts where someone states their opinion and then when someone responds with a differing viewpoint, the responder's moral and ethical values are criticized. That's what usually puts people on the defensive when they might just be offering their viewpoint without trying to say that their's is the ONLY correct viewpoint. duel



Ann
During my son's freshman and sophomore year, Coach had closed practices. No parents allowed. Everything worked fine.

Last year (His junior year), Coach changed his rule and allowed parents to watch practice from afar, but no meddling. Although I never attended his practices, it seemed that from the beginning, many of the Dad's were caught up in second guessing the Coach at every turn. I kinda liked the old rule -- closed practices.

Team meeting is coming up soon. I hope the Coach goes back to closed practices.

- Whoever said a walk was as good as a hit, couldn't hit.
PG Staff, good point. I just got off the phone with the son. He gave me a blow by blow on how his practice went today. I also pulled up the team's website and they also gave a description of how practice went too. I also get one daily e-mail from the diamond club president about each practice. "Thanks".

From the time he started "T" ball until he graduated high school, including all his summer ball, I probably didn't miss over a dozen practices. To me practice was as enjoyable as the games. In our house, baseball was an every day event that started when he got up in the morning until he went to bed at night. This baseball "thing" wasn't my doing, he made his mind up long ago (on his own) that baseball was going to be his life in some shape, form, or fashion.

Back to watching practice, Let me ask everyone; Have you ever stood and watched your child sleep?..Of course, you have ....Watching baseball practice makes a lot more sense to me!Smile
Fungo

Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level, then beat you with experience.
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