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Prepping For Freshman Baseball

R RedSoxFan21500+ posts
Not sure what to search under so taking the lazy route and starting a new post. Feel free to redirect me!

Question is, how common is it for a coach at a college to provide information or guidance to an incoming freshman on suggested workout routines, nutrition, and/or weight training in order maximize readiness for participation with the college team in the fall?

Any examples?
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ClevelandDadClevelandDadHSBBWeb Administrator
I'd say it is common. My son received a workout regimen from one of the assistant coaches in the summer before attending college. If you have not received one already, perhaps send them an e-mail asking for one.

Based on experience, the best advice you can give your son is to start training like Marine boot camp - yesterday. Run, run, and run some more until he is in superior physical condition. Challenge him to show up in the late summer/fall in the best shape of anyone on the team. If he starts a week before camp, it will be too late. Have him find someone who will push him now too his limits. Do as much speed training as humanly possible supported with strength training and good nutrition (fruits, vegetables, lean meats and cut out the junk food - especially sweets).

The quickest way for him to turn a coach's head and get on their radar is to show them he is in better shape than anyone there. They'll be challenging the team to grueling workouts (in the heat of summer) and if he can show them he is at the front of the line each time they are asked to run or perform some other drill, he'll get their attention.
bballmanbballman10,000+ posts
My son is going into his freshman year of college this fall. One of the assistants sent him a workout routine to follow to get ready for the fall. I can't speak for all programs, but his did this. He's been doing it and hopefully will keep it up. And hopefully is pushing himself.

I agree with ClevelanDad, have your son email his contact and ask if they have a program for the players to follow. Worst case scenario, he looks eager to be in shape for the fall.
fenwaysouthfenwaysouth10,000+ posts
RedSoxFan21,

Very common. Definitely start with the coach, but he may suggest that you get in touch with the trainer. Lots of coaches are in the field right now. My son received a summer workout routine that included a spreadsheet & document that details the summer workout routines with specific lifts, conditioning, flexability, agility, plyos, nutrition, and pool workouts. I'd request through the coach that you have access to the trainer to do position player or pitching workouts. I've tried a bunch of these last summer and they are brutal.

Bottom line is that he needs to be in the best shape of his life to compete for his position and future playing time. Returning players have the summer workout routine mentioned above. They are doing it. In addition, he'll want to get on the coaches good side to start his college baseball career. Good luck!
W wogdoggy500+ posts
my kid just got his workout for pitchers..problem is i just shut him down a week ago from legion ball..his busy schedule during summer playing with two teams has caused him to be active much later in the yaer than normal..at this point the workout is just going to have to wait ..the rest and off time are more important than the "workout"..
infielddadinfielddad10,000+ posts
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Originally posted by wogdoggy:
my kid just got his workout for pitchers..problem is i just shut him down a week ago from legion ball..his busy schedule during summer playing with two teams has caused him to be active much later in the yaer than normal..at this point the workout is just going to have to wait ..the rest and off time are more important than the "workout"..


Just a thought wogdoggy, but since it sounds like it will be your son's freshman year in this program, perhaps it might be a good idea and empowering for your son to contact his college coach who just sent the workout. Rather than you making the decision and your son entering a college not doing any aspect of what they provided him, perhaps it could be a win win for your son discuss his Summer and playing/competing on 2 teams through August and get input from the coaching staff on shutting down completely and resting as opposed to doing some aspect of what I assume is a program which involves strength and conditioning.
W wogdoggy500+ posts
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Originally posted by infielddad:
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Originally posted by wogdoggy:
my kid just got his workout for pitchers..problem is i just shut him down a week ago from legion ball..his busy schedule during summer playing with two teams has caused him to be active much later in the yaer than normal..at this point the workout is just going to have to wait ..the rest and off time are more important than the "workout"..


Just a thought wogdoggy, but since it sounds like it will be your son's freshman year in this program, perhaps it might be a good idea and empowering for your son to contact his college coach who just sent the workout. Rather than you making the decision and your son entering a college not doing any aspect of what they provided him, perhaps it could be a win win for your son discuss his Summer and playing/competing on 2 teams through August and get input from the coaching staff on shutting down completely and resting as opposed to doing some aspect of what I assume is a program which involves strength and conditioning.


thank you..thats good advice to consider
lefthookdadlefthookdad5,000+ posts
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Originally posted by wogdoggy:

He has had some discomfort and has played most of his senior year and summer with a "popped" rib.or a rib that tends to "pop" out of place.until school starts on the 10th hes shut down..then he's their baby.too much is not a good thing either ,especially for pitchers.




Sounds like, with a comittment already in the bag, he should have been shut down a long time ago knowing how important it is to be ready when you report to school...or at least limited play to one program, not two.
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D 2013 Dad100+ posts
My guess is that he simply does not want to risk further injury to his son. That he would prefer the experts (his son's coaches) decide how to treat his injury. I don't blame you one bit. Although my son no longer pitches, if he did, I would do the same thing. Being shut down for 3 weeks for the sake of not risking further injury is sonud thinking as far as I'm concerned.
infielddadinfielddad10,000+ posts
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Originally posted by 2013 Dad:
My guess is that he simply does not want to risk further injury to his son. That he would prefer the experts (his son's coaches) decide how to treat his injury. I don't blame you one bit. Although my son no longer pitches, if he did, I would do the same thing. Being shut down for 3 weeks for the sake of not risking further injury is sonud thinking as far as I'm concerned.


2013 Dad,
As parents, we all can have different approaches.
From our son's experience in college, Milb and now as a college coach, my conclusion is trying to play and compete in college or above with an injury makes the challenge even harder, both physically and especially mentally.
For a player who has competed on 2 teams through mid August, playing in discomfort and with an issue of a rib "popping" or moving, I would be concerned shutting down and resting to September 10, 2012 only leaves the player at considerable risk when the rigors of college baseball, both in the weight room and on the field, begin. Personally, while shutting down the player might be right, I would still involve the college coaches and I would especially involve a doctor.
While I don't know the program involved, at the D3 our son attended, the rigors of college baseball started in the early Fall. They were far more physically and mentally challenging than anything he had done before, including HS football.
On 2 occasions during our son's career, once midway through his freshman year and once in Milb he played with an through injury. The challenge of trying to compete and succeed at those levels of competition, combined with the huge adjustment to college baseball, form the basis for my thoughts in this thread.
W wogdoggy500+ posts
thanks for the reply.his season went long this year.I would rather see him have game time versus workout time.since the season just ended last week and he has had alot of discomfort this year ,,I opted to shut him down versus putting him into a workout program...to me thats a no brainer.I never was a big fan of the workout for baseball..my kids 150lbs and six foot one..until he gains weight and the workout imo isnt the do all end all reason for playing time..he was recruited for his arm,lifting his *** off isnt going to do much for him as it hasnt in the past.the workouts are 30 pitch bullpens long toss etc etc..my priorities are health education and then baseball.hangin out for two weeks not throwing not working out isnt going to make a bit of difference..it hasnt before and it wont any time soon.even if he misses "fall ball" so what? The coaches know what he is.i'm sure they would rather have him 100 percent in the spring..we will see,,thanks again for your replies.
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W wogdoggy500+ posts
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Originally posted by lefthookdad:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by wogdoggy:



Sounds like, with a comittment already in the bag, he should have been shut down a long time ago knowing how important it is to be ready when you report to school...or at least limited play to one program, not two.


that is something I considered .He plays short for legion and another team and does some pitching..IN college he will probably be a PO.
the kid wanted to play the field for his "last" summer.
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W wogdoggy500+ posts
quote:
Originally posted by wogdoggy:
quote:
Originally posted by infielddad:
quote:
Originally posted by 2013 Dad:
My guess is that he simply does not want to risk further injury to his son. That he would prefer the experts (his son's coaches) decide how to treat his injury. I don't blame you one bit. Although my son no longer pitches, if he did, I would do the same thing. Being shut down for 3 weeks for the sake of not risking further injury is sonud thinking as far as I'm concerned.


2013 Dad,

.
As parents, we all can have different approaches.
From our son's experience in college, Milb and now as a college coach, my conclusion is trying to play and compete in college or above with an injury makes the challenge even harder, both physically and especially mentally.
For a player who has competed on 2 teams through mid August, playing in discomfort and with an issue of a rib "popping" or moving, I would be concerned shutting down and resting to September 10, 2012 only leaves the player at considerable risk when the rigors of college baseball, both in the weight room and on the field, begin. Personally, while shutting down the player might be right, I would still involve the college coaches and I would especially involve a doctor.
While I don't know the program involved, at the D3 our son attended, the rigors of college baseball started in the early Fall. They were far more physically and mentally challenging than anything he had done before, including HS football.
On 2 occasions during our son's career, once midway through his freshman year and once in Milb he played with an through injury. The challenge of trying to compete and succeed at those levels of competition, combined with the huge adjustment to college baseball, form the basis for my thoughts in this thread.


good post,,and if the rigors of baseball become too much, we again look at our first two priorities
lefthookdadlefthookdad5,000+ posts
quote:
Originally posted by wogdoggy:
quote:
Originally posted by lefthookdad:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by wogdoggy:



Sounds like, with a comittment already in the bag, he should have been shut down a long time ago knowing how important it is to be ready when you report to school...or at least limited play to one program, not two.


that is something I considered .He plays short for legion and another team and does some pitching..IN college he will probably be a PO.
the kid wanted to play the field for his "last" summer.


I definitely can't blame your son for wanting to play the field in what might be his last chance to do so. Tough call as a parent who only wants the best for their kid. I am sure mine will want to do the same thing as that he will probably end up a PO as well.
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bballmanbballman10,000+ posts
quote:
Originally posted by lefthookdad:
quote:
Originally posted by wogdoggy:


He has had some discomfort and has played most of his senior year and summer with a "popped" rib.or a rib that tends to "pop" out of place.until school starts on the 10th hes shut down..then he's their baby.too much is not a good thing either ,especially for pitchers.




Sounds like, with a comittment already in the bag, he should have been shut down a long time ago knowing how important it is to be ready when you report to school...or at least limited play to one program, not two.


Not to beat a dead horse, but I would agree with this. My son is just starting his freshman year as a pitcher at a D2 school. He had some elbow tendonitis during the HS spring season. He decided not to play during the summer in order to rest his arm up for the fall. He was REALLY looking forward to the summer and being able to hit as it was the last time he'd be a fielder and hitter, but he thought it was more important to be rested and ready for college ball. I thought it was a very good decision. He has started to throw again and says him arm feels good and he is very excited to get back on the diamond.
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