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I talked to a coach from Yale I believe. However, I'm not 100% certain on that. I didn't talk to him about my son. If I remember correctly I was asking him about the rules for coaches that didn't participate in the camp. I don't remember if he was in his school colors or somebody just pointed him out.
rowandfan,
Unless you already have college coaches who are attending in communication with you, or are one of the top/elite players/pitchers, my suggestion is to not create any expectations that a coach will say "I want you to play for me."
Create a mindset for success, not potential disappointment.
You are going to get exposure to 50-60 schools, some of which you may not even know. Most of those attending won't know you or have any idea who you are. Most every coach attending is from a great school, offering unique opportunities.
Use the meet and greet to learn who the coaches are, learn about their schools and programs, what they have to offer, and especially what they expect and are looking for in players. Use it to assess the range of opportunities that are available at the next level.
Use it as an opportunity for you to present yourself in a way coaches will take note and remember.
Use the camp as a way to demonstrate your skills, and ability in ways that at least one, but hopefully more, of those 50-60 coaches will see and remember. The Camp is one where it is critically important to remember that "hustle never had a bad day." Not every coach will see every game or every session of yours.
Make every game or session one where your effort and focus is the very best you have.
Good luck, have fun and make things happen for you.
There have been, in the past, many coaches who did not "get" a team who worked the stanford camp (e.g., working w catchers, hitters, pitchers, etc.). They were attired in the same uniforms as the coaches who got teams (one year it was in Camp jersey with their name and school on it; another year it was their school uniforms). I think roughly 60 schools were officially working the camp. In addition, and especially at the Sunken Diamond games, there were dozen and dozens of additional coaches (generally clustered in the section directly behind home plate) "incognito" (dressed casually with some type of marking [e.g., hat, pen, notebook] of their school). In the past, the camp ran before 7/1 so they couldnt talk to you except in passing.

Some unsolicited advice: be relaxed and calm. Let the recruiting process take place between your player and the coaches. Every time your boy speaks with a coach, he grows a little bit more confident and gains experience that will improve his "style" for the next coaching encounter (which may be literally minutes in the future). The parent have no place interacting with the recruiting dynamic at this point (there may be a time later on where you will become more involved -- but IMO, cetainly not at this early courtship/informational phase).

Your boy has earned the right to take steps into his future world -- he earned the right by playing hard and working at the game to a point where he can approach coaches or coaches approach him. So parents, sit back, enjoy some baseball, watch the competition and debrief your son discretly when he feels like sharing!

The Stanford camp may or may not bring schools into your lives; but, if it does, the process is probably not quick and easy -- it will extend out for many weeks (perhaps months). Let your boy grow and learn about dealing with adults (his potential future coaches); after all, he will play for them and they will coach him -- you will do neither.
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The Stanford camp may or may not bring schools into your lives; but, if it does, the process is probably not quick and easy -- it will extend out for many weeks (perhaps months). Let your boy grow and learn about dealing with adults (his potential future coaches); after all, he will play for them and they will coach him -- you will do neither.



All points well taken. We will have our feet wet with the Stanford Futures Camp and go on from there. Just have to enjoy the moment and let it all shake out. As parents, we can only guide our sons to have the best possible opportunity to succeed. Enjoy their success and live through their failures and help them bounce back. Ultimately, it will be up to our son's /player's drive if they will get to that next level.

For those who did the Futures Camp the last 2 years, how important is it for a player to go back to do the All Star Camp? Any feedback will be appreciated.

RR23
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Originally posted by infielddad:
rowandfan,
Unless you already have college coaches who are attending in communication with you, or are one of the top/elite players/pitchers, my suggestion is to not create any expectations that a coach will say "I want you to play for me."
Create a mindset for success, not potential disappointment.
You are going to get exposure to 50-60 schools, some of which you may not even know. Most of those attending won't know you or have any idea who you are. Most every coach attending is from a great school, offering unique opportunities.
Use the meet and greet to learn who the coaches are, learn about their schools and programs, what they have to offer, and especially what they expect and are looking for in players. Use it to assess the range of opportunities that are available at the next level.
Use it as an opportunity for you to present yourself in a way coaches will take note and remember.
Use the camp as a way to demonstrate your skills, and ability in ways that at least one, but hopefully more, of those 50-60 coaches will see and remember. The Camp is one where it is critically important to remember that "hustle never had a bad day." Not every coach will see every game or every session of yours.
Make every game or session one where your effort and focus is the very best you have.
Good luck, have fun and make things happen for you.


It turned out that a lot of the coaches didn't even show up. There were only like 15 of them and others had on field opportunities with the game that was going on.

The top schools everyone wanted to talk to, and I didn't think that there was that much of a point to go introduce myself and say I'm interested when 300 other campers are interested too. I figured that if they want me, they have the opportunity to see me.

That said, I talked to one coach who I had been in contact with and I am very glad I did. It was a great conversation and there will be future ones.
rowandfan,
They were there. You may have not see all of them, but by Wednesday night, there were at least 70 and more still coming in that night and Thursday morning.

Sometimes you don't know anything until August/September.
As you found out, it only takes one coach from a college you love and which meets you academic expectations.
Good luck to you.
The Futures Camp is only 2-3 years old.
In the past, it has been held during Labor Day.
The coaches attending were fewer in number, around 20-25 I have been told.
With that said, the programs attending were very high quality DI's from the Pac 10, Big West, WCC and I believe one or more from the ACC and a few high quality DIII's.
The feed back I heard was positive. There was quality exposure for players since they were fewer in number but very, very good players. It was equally good for the coaches who also were fewer in number but were able to see upwards of 100 players with almost everything at Sunken.
Since, to my knowledge, this is the 1st camp held in July, I don't know if the September Camp experience will be duplicated.
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Just a brief update since we are still on the road with Don Mattingly State Tournament in AZ.

TOTAL PLAYERS: 130 ( 8 teams)
TOTAL COLLEGE COACHES: 15( Official..11D1) , >10(unofficial)

All 3 games at Sunken Diamond. Almost everything in thread accurate but they added on field BP this year.

They are considering doing the Futures Camp weekend before or after Labor Day next year. Reason they did this in July this year was due to a Home Football game this coming Labor Day.

RR23Jr had a great time and good experience. He played in all 3 games and played primarily 3b but also had time at 1b and RF. He had good ABs (2b,1b).His team went 2-1. He normally don't say much but when I ask him how was the camp and if he wants to go back this year."It was great and I want to do it again next year."

We already got follow up thank you email from Coach Stotz and whole staff and to lookout for the invite next year and keep up grades.

In Summary, if RR23 did good, fair or bad, the experience and exposure he got from The Futures Camp made him a better player.

I am curious to know how detailed is the evaluation the Camp Staff would send in a few weeks. Any feedback is appreciated.

P.S. He got the GW hit RBI in the bottom of the 11th inning @11pm last night with the bases loaded in the 2nd game of the doubleheader in the Don Mattingly Wood Bat State Tournament 1 day after Stanford Camp. (Game Time 3 hrs)

17U Don Mattingly Update

VIDEO GW HIT Don Mattingly AZ State

THANKS FOR ALL THE INFO ON THIS THREAD! Smile
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I just added the VIDEO LINK from the earlier reply. Time to shut down for a month, get a jumpstart in school and get back to the swing of things in September. Still have not receive camp evaluation but I was told it will really take some time as it is very detailed. Overall, the progression from Summer of 2009 to Summer of 2010 for RR23JR is very interesting having done Area Code Tryouts,USAB JO, Stanford Camp and Don Mattingly State and WS. This Summer was very tiring indeed but well worth it.
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COACH SCHOOL

NEIL GROAT HENDRIX COLLEGE
LUKE HOWARD OUACHITA BAPTIST
Joe Wilkins Pepperdine
TOM KUNIS SAN JOSE STATE
MIKE ZIRELLI SANTA CLARA
Mario Iglesias STANFORD
DEAN STOTZ STANFORD
RUSTY FILTER STANFORD
MATT VAUGHN UC DAVIS
JASON LEFOWITZ UC SANTA BARBARA
MIKE McCORMICK University of Pacific
Matt Hobbs USF (Dons)
MATT DAILY MENLO COLLEGE
FRANK PERICOLOSI POMONA-PITZER
ANTHONY FERRO BUTTE JC
BUCK TAYLOR PALOMAR
BEN ADAMS PALOMAR
ROBERT RUIZ WESTMONT
Nathan Trosky Brewers Scout
STEVE MROWKA GEORGE WASHINGTON
PETE WILK GEORGETOWN
MATT KIRBY GEORGETOWN
KEITH KOMEIJI HAWAII
"DOC" BEEMAN BENEDICTINE
RICHIE PRICE KANSAS
MIKE DIAZ CENTENARY COLLEGE
ED McCANN CENTENARY COLLEGE
BILL BARRALE WILLIAMS
Brian Hamm Amherst
JESSE WOODS BOSTON COLLEGE
KRISTAPS ALDINS HARVARD
GABE RIBAS HOLY CROSS
Brian Casey Tufts
Matt Reynolds Navy
EDWIN THOMPSON BATES COLLEGE
MATT HUSTED MICHIGAN
JAY ALEXANDER EASTERN MICHIGAN
CHRIS TERRY CULVER-STOCKTON
CODY MC CAIN MILLSAPS COLLEGE
KYLE GESWEIN BELMONT ABBEY
BILL CILENTO WAKE FOREST
Todd Gross Davidson
BOB WHALEN DARTMOUTH
ANTHONY DeCICCO ARMY
CHRIS TRACZ MARIST
JAY QUINN COLUMBIA
SCOTT MARSH CORNELL
MIKE CLARK DENISON
JON CROSS PENN
Jimmy Gulden BUCKNELL
CRAIG HANSON DICKINSON COLLEGE
JAKE GILL ST. JOSEPH'S UNIVERSITY
Brian Murphy Brown
JUSTIN DEDMAN AUSTIN PEAY
TIM SCANNELL TRINITY UNIVERSITY
CARL IWASAKI AUSTIN COLLEGE
JOE HAUG RICHMOND
KYLE PADGETT WILLIAM AND MARY
RON RAKOWSKI TACOMA CC
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Both have a lot of coaches but the allstar has more. Keep in mind there is no guarantee the coaches you are interested in will see your son play. Games are spread out at various fields so it's a **** shoot. Everyone is guaranteed one game at Sunken Diamond which is where you get the most exposure but again no guarantess as to who will be there for your game.
Son participated in the Stanford Elite Pitching Camp this past weekend. It was an excellent camp with a strong focus on instruction. No games. Just lots of pitching stations with coaches from various schools working with a small group of boys (5-7) at a time. They had bull pen work and stations on mechanics, fielding, stretching/conditioning, etc.

Stephen Strausburg spoke to the boys one evening for about an hour. He recounted his track from high school to pros. He answered lots of questions from the boys.

They had an Elite Catchers Camp going on at the same time so the pitchers had good catchers in their bull pen sessions. Jason Castro from the Astros was there helping out as well.

My son got a lot out of the camp. Even though some of the drills were repetitive of his high school program, it at least validated that his HS training is done by the college guys. It was worth the trip and I would recommend it to others.
Teams/Coaches participating directly in the 2010 Camp. ALL DIVISION 1.

Team 1
USF Dons – Coach Matt Hobbs

Team 2
Harvard (IVY) – Coach Kristap Aldins

Team 3
Kansas Jayhawks – Coach Ryan Graves

Team 4
Wake Forest Demon Deacons – Coach Bill Cilento

Team 5
Santa Clara Broncos – Coach Mike Zirelli (Asst Coach/RC)

Team 6
UC Davis Aggies – Coach Matt Vaughn

Team 7
Stanford – Coaches Filter and Iglesias

Team 8
Holy Cross CRUSADERS (Patriot League) – Coach Dicenzo


Teams/Coaches helping out

San Jose State Spartans (WAC DIV I) –
Thomas Kunis (Asso Head Coach)

Pacific Tigers (BIG WEST DIV I)
Don Barbara (Asso Head Coach)

Army Black Knights (PATRIOT LEAGUE DIV I)

Denison Big Red , OHIO (NCAC DIV III)

City College of San Francisco RAMS ( JUCO)

Westmont Warriors, CA (NAIA)

Robert Ruiz (Head Coach) …Infield Coach.Fmr coach of AZUSA

Hawaii Warriors (H DIV I)

Other coaches just watching...unknown??

Hope this helps in your decision! I am sure might not be exactly the same. Remember also that the Futures Camp maybe around Labor Day this year.


RR23
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Ryanrod23:

I am curious to know how detailed is the evaluation the Camp Staff would send in a few weeks. Any feedback is appreciated. QUOTE]

Just read your post about Futures Camp 2010...would u please share what the eval was like? Did they put a lot of time and effort into the eval?
Blue 10,

There were 3 sets of evaluations and they were pretty detailed depending on your position. RR23 JR was an IF during the camp so here is a breakdown. I included some video links to give you an idea of the place.

#1 Evaluation from Team Coach (INDIVIDUAL): includes overall Offensive, Defensive skills plus any comments regarding your approach to the game. This pretty much concentrates on game time evaluations and on-field BP.

#2 Defensive Evaluation (TEAM) from IF/OF coach during defensive stations. Defensive drills are in Turf field ( Football Practice Field). Mainly concentrates on defensive technique and arm strength.

Stanford Futures Defense

#3 Offensive Evaluation (INDIVIDUAL) from Stanford Hitting Coach and other input from coaches during Hitting drills. Mainly concentrates on hitting technique.

Stanford Futures Offense


Hope this gives you an idea of what to expect.

RR23
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Blue10 - The following is the evaluation my son got in 2005; it is in different format (we typed it out so that we could e-mail it to coaches). It is the same format that Ryanrod outlined.

Hitting

Batspeed/Technique/Power/Balance/Stride/Overall
Grade/Future Projection
6 6 7 6 5+ 6 6

Comments by Coach Nakama

Strong hitter. Good Power Potential. Try’s to manufacture power to the pull side. Use the whole field and stay inside the ball an you will be a tougher out.

Fielding

Range/Arm/Tech/Feet/Projected/Comments
6 6 5+ 6 6 Needs to work on feet and picks, pfp will help fielding

Comments from Coach Detter

Hitting Line: 5 for 11, 2BB, 2RBI, 3 hard hit

Offensive Summary:

XYZ has good size and surprisingly good balance at the plate. His areas for improvement would be staying back longer and coming from the top of his swing. Ultimately, XYZ will need to be a doubles and home run type hitter. To accomplish that he will need to deal with off speed pitches effectively. Like many left handed hitters he has a tendency to drop his back side and have the bat enter the hitting zone from below. Staying up with the left shoulder and coming down and the ball will allow him to hit balls for hard line drives to the gaps and over the fences. He also will need to concentrate on staying back, not jumping out at pitch or guessing. He needs to trust his bat speed and react to the pitch. Hitting off of the back side more will generate increased power.

XYZ showed a good eye and a knack for putting the bat on the ball. I think he was the only player on my team not to strike out over the course of the four games. The ability to put the ball in play and stay away from strike outs will really mix well with his size and power.

As a base runner, XYZ will need to know the situations and be effective. He will not ever be a base stealer, but knowing when to be aggressive and how to move up as the trail runner will give him added offensive treat.

Defensive summary

Big, strong player with surprising agility for his size. I was impressed with his lateral ability at first base. He has a smooth glove and made some nice scoops on low throws. He has good fielding fundamentals and looked good for his size at the infield station. I also put XYZ in the outfield for a few innings and though not use to playing out there he made one nice play. In all likelihood, XYZ will be a first baseman going forward due to his size and quickness but does not hurt to be able to fill in as an outfielder and have that flexibility. In terms of improvement, I would focus on speed and quickness. Also, when taking ground balls, work to bend more at the knees, get lower with the butt and be below the ball when he goes to make the plays. I also think the short hop drills both forehand and backhand will help with picking ability at first. Defensively, XYZ is a 6.


Rating Index

10 Superstar in HS, top 5 draft out of HS, star in college as freshman
9 Outstanding HS ability, definitely draftable (mid to late rounds) chance to start as frosh
8 Exceptional HS ability, 50%-75% chance to be drafted, contributor as frosh
7 Very Good HS ability, outside chance to be drafted, starter by Jr. year in college
6 Good HS ability, not draftable, but a four year college level player
5 Above average HS player, not draftable, chance to play on four year college level
4 Average HS ability, junior college ability in future
3 Below average HS ability chance to play in junior college
2 Poor HS ability, done playing after HS


This was a VERY accurate appraisal of his skills.

FYI - my son went on to play at a top-20 D3 where he had a career BA of .406; earned All-American honors twice and was named his conference Player-of-the-Year.
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Originally posted by bbdad2007:
COACH SCHOOL

NEIL GROAT HENDRIX COLLEGE
LUKE HOWARD OUACHITA BAPTIST
Joe Wilkins Pepperdine
TOM KUNIS SAN JOSE STATE
MIKE ZIRELLI SANTA CLARA
Mario Iglesias STANFORD
DEAN STOTZ STANFORD
RUSTY FILTER STANFORD
MATT VAUGHN UC DAVIS
JASON LEFOWITZ UC SANTA BARBARA
MIKE McCORMICK University of Pacific
Matt Hobbs USF (Dons)
MATT DAILY MENLO COLLEGE
FRANK PERICOLOSI POMONA-PITZER
ANTHONY FERRO BUTTE JC
BUCK TAYLOR PALOMAR
BEN ADAMS PALOMAR
ROBERT RUIZ WESTMONT
Nathan Trosky Brewers Scout
STEVE MROWKA GEORGE WASHINGTON
PETE WILK GEORGETOWN
MATT KIRBY GEORGETOWN
KEITH KOMEIJI HAWAII
"DOC" BEEMAN BENEDICTINE
RICHIE PRICE KANSAS
MIKE DIAZ CENTENARY COLLEGE
ED McCANN CENTENARY COLLEGE
BILL BARRALE WILLIAMS
Brian Hamm Amherst
JESSE WOODS BOSTON COLLEGE
KRISTAPS ALDINS HARVARD
GABE RIBAS HOLY CROSS
Brian Casey Tufts
Matt Reynolds Navy
EDWIN THOMPSON BATES COLLEGE
MATT HUSTED MICHIGAN
JAY ALEXANDER EASTERN MICHIGAN
CHRIS TERRY CULVER-STOCKTON
CODY MC CAIN MILLSAPS COLLEGE
KYLE GESWEIN BELMONT ABBEY
BILL CILENTO WAKE FOREST
Todd Gross Davidson
BOB WHALEN DARTMOUTH
ANTHONY DeCICCO ARMY
CHRIS TRACZ MARIST
JAY QUINN COLUMBIA
SCOTT MARSH CORNELL
MIKE CLARK DENISON
JON CROSS PENN
Jimmy Gulden BUCKNELL
CRAIG HANSON DICKINSON COLLEGE
JAKE GILL ST. JOSEPH'S UNIVERSITY
Brian Murphy Brown
JUSTIN DEDMAN AUSTIN PEAY
TIM SCANNELL TRINITY UNIVERSITY
CARL IWASAKI AUSTIN COLLEGE
JOE HAUG RICHMOND
KYLE PADGETT WILLIAM AND MARY
RON RAKOWSKI TACOMA CC


So do some of the GPA camp coaches also attend the Stanford camp? If so, does that potentially diminish the value of the GPA camp?

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