Well, I'll tell ya what, boys....you aren't going to find the Tigers on here throwin the trash like you guys are and I'm sure my son wouldn't want me doin it for him. You've got some great kids on your team so I'm sure you'll win your share of games this summer. And when the Tigers are all in uniform I'm sure they'll do the same. In the mean time, you boys, keep right on talkin! We'll just see ya at the ball park. Good luck, Bydabook, Baller, and Seedhitter!
A little friendly banter won't hurt anyone. In reality, the Patriots, Tigers, Stars and Knights are all going to be very tough. It should be fun. See you at the yard.
To the Knights coach - You call it "friendly" banter. I call it empty trash. I'm surprised you aren't a little more concerned about the image they give the Knights organization. I won't be bothering with any more responses to your players, Coach. And I'm doubting the Tigers will either. See you at the ballpark, children.
Show some class, kids. You're a little mouthy. Save your energy for the field. I swear, bydabook, you are obsessed with the Tigers. LOL
Hats off to the Mustangs, Panthers, Patriots, FW CAts and others who keep the "friendly banter" on the field and let their sticks do the talking for them!
Show some class, kids. You're a little mouthy. Save your energy for the field. I swear, bydabook, you are obsessed with the Tigers. LOL
Hats off to the Mustangs, Panthers, Patriots, FW CAts and others who keep the "friendly banter" on the field and let their sticks do the talking for them!
Let us try to keep it nice. I know that it can get heated. Let's try to keep it friendly. Calling people out is just flaming. The Tigers are a good organization and help their players get scholarships. Just like the others do. How good each is is not the most important thing. All these guys do a great service to their players. JMO
Hey BH,
Good luck to LH in a couple of weeks.
Good luck to LH in a couple of weeks.
TXBBRocks
If you were at the three games last summer, you know my kids don't talk trash. They know I wont put up with it. Heath and I have known each other for some time, His kids dont talk it and niether do mine. As far as these guys on this site, you are holding me personally accountable for three loudmouths I dont even know.
My teams actions on the field are the only thing I can be responsible for. Having said that, we've never talked noise, had a kid ejected, or instigated any trouble in all my time coaching in bbi. I've never been tossed in a bbi connie mack game. Im taken aback that you would expect me to be responsible for these folks on here.
There have been many disagreements on this site about who has the better team, league, district, whatever. That is the banter I'm referring to. Not unlike the 9-5A, 12-5A, 5-5A discussions you have been apart of.
When our teams meet this summer, there wont be any trash comming from our dugout, of that you can be sure.
Corey Thornton
If you were at the three games last summer, you know my kids don't talk trash. They know I wont put up with it. Heath and I have known each other for some time, His kids dont talk it and niether do mine. As far as these guys on this site, you are holding me personally accountable for three loudmouths I dont even know.
My teams actions on the field are the only thing I can be responsible for. Having said that, we've never talked noise, had a kid ejected, or instigated any trouble in all my time coaching in bbi. I've never been tossed in a bbi connie mack game. Im taken aback that you would expect me to be responsible for these folks on here.
There have been many disagreements on this site about who has the better team, league, district, whatever. That is the banter I'm referring to. Not unlike the 9-5A, 12-5A, 5-5A discussions you have been apart of.
When our teams meet this summer, there wont be any trash comming from our dugout, of that you can be sure.
Corey Thornton
Book,
You're harsh. You struck a tender nerve with the bbi/aabc statement. Fact is, if rock and siz have been with the Tigers since 15, they have lost many battles to the Knights. As 15's they finished second in league play to the Knights, as 16's they won the BBI league only to lose in the aabc regional to the Knights. They went off and won the CABA world series only to come home to see the Knights won the Mickey Mantle World Series. The DMN had a 1/4 page write up on the Knights and a couple of lines about the Tigers. As 17's they lost three times to the Knights and got caught using an ineligble player and had the game protested on them. So it's understandable that they would be a little sensitive. Bookman be a sport and cut them some slack.
You're harsh. You struck a tender nerve with the bbi/aabc statement. Fact is, if rock and siz have been with the Tigers since 15, they have lost many battles to the Knights. As 15's they finished second in league play to the Knights, as 16's they won the BBI league only to lose in the aabc regional to the Knights. They went off and won the CABA world series only to come home to see the Knights won the Mickey Mantle World Series. The DMN had a 1/4 page write up on the Knights and a couple of lines about the Tigers. As 17's they lost three times to the Knights and got caught using an ineligble player and had the game protested on them. So it's understandable that they would be a little sensitive. Bookman be a sport and cut them some slack.
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Originally posted by bydabook:
_Txbbrocks3 & Sizzle : the Tiger apologists.
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You guys are always brag, brag, brag on the (Rockwall) Tigers until someone points out the fact that at the 16 & 18 year-old levels they are not the team to beat. Then you become an excuse machine...
we didn't have all of our players...
we were younger than the other team...
they had college players...
wait until next year...
Well, next year's here again. What have they accomplished in BBI or AABC over the last several years? Nada. No titles and no championships at the Mickey Mantle OR Connie Mack levels. That's not talking trash - that's fact. The Tigers are renowned for escaping in the post season to the second tier tournaments.
I'm wondering what the excuse will be this year? C'mon guys, be creative. Remember playing for second place isn't so bad. Best of the rest and then the Kitty Kats can run off to the Snooper Series....again.
If all these pitchers you named off in one of your earlier posts were such studs, you would think they could have made a little more noise in the playoffs. After all pitching wins, titles not hitting right? Why is it that the "Rockwall Tigers" with several pitchers from a "regressed Tigher pitching staff" is still alive, but the aforementioned Knights pitcher's schools all made a quick departure from the playoffs? It obviously cannot solely be Rockwall's hitting, since once again pitching wins championships- not hitting. You are contradicting yourself, yet again. Maybe Sawyer, VerHagen, Martin, and Bishop are better than you are giving them credit to be.
I know people from both teams, and if you ask me which pitching staff I would rather have, I would not hesitate with my answer. I have seen which players have bigger impacts on their high school teams, which shows what they can do when they aren't surrounded by unlimited talent. You take Linebaugh off Mesquite, they still don't make the playoffs. You take Sisk off of Henderson, and they still get eliminated early. Only exception in those pitcher are Matthews who did carry his team to where they went. So why don't you give credit where credit is due. Both teams have great pitching, but only one team has pitchers that are able to carry a team deep into the playoffs.
Seriously, why are all of you talking trash? I haven't once in this topic started trash talking about any teams in the DFW area. All I said was that I believe the Tigers are one of the best if not the best team in Dallas this year. True, the Tigers might not have all the "big name" pitchers this year, but I bet the pitchers they do have on that team will get the job done and win ball games. True, the Knights have come out on top in alot of big showdowns against the Tigers in the past...Yay for the Knights. That was 2 and 3 years ago. Who cares what happend the past few years. We'll all see what happens this summer. And Heater, your post makes almost too much sense. Good post!
Heard this weekend Hancock is now going to play for the Tigers. Anyone no for sure
Hey guys, I realize that there are some differing opinions on the Knights and Tigers but has it occurred to you that the coaches of these teams do not consider this to be such a big rivalry?
Ultimately, the goals of the Knights coaching staff are to get exposure for our players, play quality competition and compete successfully as far as we can go into AABC post-season play. I consider the Tigers to be quality competition and when teams of this caliber go head-to-head the outcomes can often be different each time. Competition can also cause tempers to rise but please use some discretion with the message boards. It’s neither fair nor productive to call out players here in a negative manner - especially when many of these kids’ parents frequent this message board.
For those interested, the Knights White play the Tigers 18 at Weatherford College on Friday, June 11th @ 9:00am and the teams meet again in a BBI game at Richland College on Thursday, June 17th @ 6:00pm. Come out and support both of the teams and enjoy some good Dallas baseball.
Ultimately, the goals of the Knights coaching staff are to get exposure for our players, play quality competition and compete successfully as far as we can go into AABC post-season play. I consider the Tigers to be quality competition and when teams of this caliber go head-to-head the outcomes can often be different each time. Competition can also cause tempers to rise but please use some discretion with the message boards. It’s neither fair nor productive to call out players here in a negative manner - especially when many of these kids’ parents frequent this message board.
For those interested, the Knights White play the Tigers 18 at Weatherford College on Friday, June 11th @ 9:00am and the teams meet again in a BBI game at Richland College on Thursday, June 17th @ 6:00pm. Come out and support both of the teams and enjoy some good Dallas baseball.
I second.
We'll be out there at Weatherford College too, look me up Knights GM and I'll buy you a coke.
Went to the Patriot 18's vs Tiger 17's this evening and Kyle Handcock was in uniform and in the bullpen. For the Pats.
Game called due to weather.
Game called due to weather.
i hear the patriots pre game caught theof man eye of many ppl
Don't count out the 18U Arlington Wizards....talked to a friend of mine that said the Wizards held the 18U Dallas Tigers to 4 runs in 2 seperate games this past weekend. They might give some teams all they can handle when thay start to hit the ball. I understand both games, 1 in pool and 1 in the championship of a DR richardson USSSA World Qualifier were a 4-0 win for the 18U Dallas Tigers.
By the way the 18U Arlington Wizards are comprised of all 17U players (class of 2005).
By the way the 18U Arlington Wizards are comprised of all 17U players (class of 2005).
yeah i heard the wizards aint half bad arm chair. who are the guys on that team this year, im sure they'll be even better next year when they arent playing a year under everybody.
Bob15,
Not sure if Stallions have the mustard to nab 6th spot in Mickey Mantle BBI. Knights 16 beat the Stallions tonight 10-0. 2 Knights pitchers combined to no-hit them in 6 innings.
baseballdad6
caught the eye .....what? Try typing, not hunt punching.
I saw 6 or seven boots and three or four overthrows including the right fielder almost hitting a fan. Now, the Patsies are gonna be formidable, that's for sure, with their staff and hitters. But come on, "eyecatching" pregame, nope. I saw at least three or four coaches there and they chatted the whole time....not even paying attention to pregame. IMO they came to watch Hancock pitch and could give a rat's behind about pregame.
Not sure if Stallions have the mustard to nab 6th spot in Mickey Mantle BBI. Knights 16 beat the Stallions tonight 10-0. 2 Knights pitchers combined to no-hit them in 6 innings.
baseballdad6
caught the eye .....what? Try typing, not hunt punching.
I saw 6 or seven boots and three or four overthrows including the right fielder almost hitting a fan. Now, the Patsies are gonna be formidable, that's for sure, with their staff and hitters. But come on, "eyecatching" pregame, nope. I saw at least three or four coaches there and they chatted the whole time....not even paying attention to pregame. IMO they came to watch Hancock pitch and could give a rat's behind about pregame.
Sizzle,
I will get a list of who the Wizards have, I can't qoute it off the top of my head.
I will get a list of who the Wizards have, I can't qoute it off the top of my head.
Armchaircoach/Sizzle,
My 17yr old is on the Wizards. We were pretty happy with their play this weekend. We saw both Garrison on (ASU signee) and I think Ashwood (TCU signee) throw against us and we just couldn't get the ball into the gaps. We played pretty good defense though and our pitchers threw pretty well and kept them from going yard too many times. Fun weekend for all!
I'll double check with the coach and see if he minds me posting a complete roster here.
My 17yr old is on the Wizards. We were pretty happy with their play this weekend. We saw both Garrison on (ASU signee) and I think Ashwood (TCU signee) throw against us and we just couldn't get the ball into the gaps. We played pretty good defense though and our pitchers threw pretty well and kept them from going yard too many times. Fun weekend for all!
I'll double check with the coach and see if he minds me posting a complete roster here.
Question. How does Ashwood throw in Utrip world qualifier for tiggers when he isn't even on their roster? USSSA allows guest appearances I suppose. That's why utrip, aau, triple crown, and super series are all just bogus, mythical titles.
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Originally posted by Seed Hitter:
Book,
You're harsh. You struck a tender nerve with the bbi/aabc statement. Fact is, if rock and siz have been with the Tigers since 15, they have lost many battles to the Knights. As 15's they finished second in league play to the Knights, as 16's they won the BBI league only to lose in the aabc regional to the Knights. They went off and won the CABA world series only to come home to see the Knights won the Mickey Mantle World Series. The DMN had a 1/4 page write up on the Knights and a couple of lines about the Tigers. As 17's they lost three times to the Knights and got caught using an ineligble player and had the game protested on them. So it's understandable that they would be a little sensitive. Bookman be a sport and cut them some slack.
Just curious, who was the ineligible player and was the protest upheld?
[QUOTE]Originally posted by sizzle:
yeah i heard the wizards aint half bad arm chair. who are the guys on that team this year, im sure they'll be even better next year when they arent playing a year under everybody.[/Q
Sizzle,
I'm 16 and on the 18u Wizards We are getting better each season. Even though we are younger than a lot of the guys we are holding our own.
yeah i heard the wizards aint half bad arm chair. who are the guys on that team this year, im sure they'll be even better next year when they arent playing a year under everybody.[/Q
Sizzle,
I'm 16 and on the 18u Wizards We are getting better each season. Even though we are younger than a lot of the guys we are holding our own.
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Originally posted by Baller:
Hmmmph, Looks like the ballman might have been right posting Ingram's Kittys as a force in bbi. 11-4 over Dbat youngsters according to bbi site. NE1 see the game?
DBAT outhit the KittyKats 8-6, but starting pitcher walked leadoff and then proceeded to hit 4 batters in first two innings. Game over.
We have a double header against DBat tonight. Hopefully the weather holds.
Dallas Knights White -- 4, 9, 2
Dallas Patriots 18 -- 2, 3, 2
WP Tim Matthews
LP Kyle Hancock
2B Randall Linebaugh (Knights)
Thomas Beckham (Knights)
3B None
HR Nate Phillips (Knights)
Great Ballgame, Great Crowd, two very good teams with two very good pitchers strapped it on tonight. Thanks to all who came out to watch.
Dallas Patriots 18 -- 2, 3, 2
WP Tim Matthews
LP Kyle Hancock
2B Randall Linebaugh (Knights)
Thomas Beckham (Knights)
3B None
HR Nate Phillips (Knights)
Great Ballgame, Great Crowd, two very good teams with two very good pitchers strapped it on tonight. Thanks to all who came out to watch.
I thought they might lose a game somewhere
The Arlington Heat hosted a few teams this weekend for some games since Weatherford got rained out.
My thoughts after the last two days.
DBat is stronger and deaper than the Tigers. We tied DBat twice Friday, and DBat beat the Tigers Saturday. We also beat the Tigers Saturday.
I'm sure some will say that since these games didn't matter, that you can't judge anything by them.
Well, I disagree. DBat is still the 15 year old team in the metroplex to beat.
The McKinney Marshalls 16 have a good deap team as well, although we did beat them twice Saturday in close games.
The Arlington Heat is finally coming together as a team.
My thoughts after the last two days.
DBat is stronger and deaper than the Tigers. We tied DBat twice Friday, and DBat beat the Tigers Saturday. We also beat the Tigers Saturday.
I'm sure some will say that since these games didn't matter, that you can't judge anything by them.
Well, I disagree. DBat is still the 15 year old team in the metroplex to beat.
The McKinney Marshalls 16 have a good deap team as well, although we did beat them twice Saturday in close games.
The Arlington Heat is finally coming together as a team.
Keller Dad - those were two good games Friday night --- I was impressed with #44 on the mound --- nasty curveball. Did notice he is 16 (I hope) since he drove off after the game! Is your team a mix of 15's and 16's? Which player is your son?
In 16u action The Knights 16 picked up three wins on Saturday the 6th.
Knights 16 -- 20 15 0
Garland Cubs -- 0 0 5
WP Lankford
HR Holaday
Knights 16 -- 10 12 1
Wizards -- 4 4 1
WP Watson
HR Walden
Knights 16 -- 7
Bulls 15 -- 0
Forfeit
Knights 16 -- 20 15 0
Garland Cubs -- 0 0 5
WP Lankford
HR Holaday
Knights 16 -- 10 12 1
Wizards -- 4 4 1
WP Watson
HR Walden
Knights 16 -- 7
Bulls 15 -- 0
Forfeit
#44 is Brian Elliot, and he is one of our 2 16's.
The other 16 has yet to play a game with us, as he played with Mansfield into the playoff's and then went to the Sophmore All-Star games last weekend.
My son is number 27, plays Centerfield and pitches.
The other 16 has yet to play a game with us, as he played with Mansfield into the playoff's and then went to the Sophmore All-Star games last weekend.
My son is number 27, plays Centerfield and pitches.
Thanks KellerDad --- you guys have a very good team. Best of luck this summer.
Natural, you havd a PM.
Knights 18 White -- 4, 7, 0
LH Cats ----------- 2, 0, 2
WP Brian Sisk (combined w/ Kiel Renfro for No Hitter)
2B Tony Langford, Tim Matthews
HR Ryan Reidel, Matthews
Knights 18 Black -- 10, 10, 1
Chaps -------------- 1, 3, 4
WP Tyler Herriage
2B Ethan Douglas (2)
3B Cole Standridge
Knights 18 Black---4, 7, 2
Tigers 18 ---------4, 5, 3
2B Brandon Bantz
Knights 16 -- 13, 17, 0
Twins -------- 0, 3, 2
WP - Collin Lofton
2B Jordan Walden
3B Mark Cahoon
Knights 16 ---12, 11, 0
Tigers 16 -----6, 6, 2
2B Jordan Gomez, Jordan Walden, Brian Holaday
3B Rob Matthews
A pretty good day for the Knights.
LH Cats ----------- 2, 0, 2
WP Brian Sisk (combined w/ Kiel Renfro for No Hitter)
2B Tony Langford, Tim Matthews
HR Ryan Reidel, Matthews
Knights 18 Black -- 10, 10, 1
Chaps -------------- 1, 3, 4
WP Tyler Herriage
2B Ethan Douglas (2)
3B Cole Standridge
Knights 18 Black---4, 7, 2
Tigers 18 ---------4, 5, 3
2B Brandon Bantz
Knights 16 -- 13, 17, 0
Twins -------- 0, 3, 2
WP - Collin Lofton
2B Jordan Walden
3B Mark Cahoon
Knights 16 ---12, 11, 0
Tigers 16 -----6, 6, 2
2B Jordan Gomez, Jordan Walden, Brian Holaday
3B Rob Matthews
A pretty good day for the Knights.
What an injustice. Arguably the three strongest teams in the 16u age group are DBAT 16, Tigers 16 and Knights 16. All three are entered in the Mickey Mantle World Series Qualifier this weekend. 16 teams have entered the tournament, 4 pools of 4. These three teams are all in the same pool. This travesty eliminates the double elimination factor for all three teams as they will only play once and only the pool winner will advance to the double elimination round. The tournament director randomly pulled this out of a hat? Unlikely, the odds are at least 500,000 to 1. Shameful.
Knight Coach,
While this is an injustice, it is hardly rare.
We've had that done to my son's teams for years. BBI has done it to us, Arc Park has done it to us, CABA and Super Series has done it to us.
I guess the lesson I learned from all these many years of my son playing select, is that the tournament director always has a hand in the outcome of his tournament.
While this is an injustice, it is hardly rare.
We've had that done to my son's teams for years. BBI has done it to us, Arc Park has done it to us, CABA and Super Series has done it to us.
I guess the lesson I learned from all these many years of my son playing select, is that the tournament director always has a hand in the outcome of his tournament.
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the tournament director always has a hand in the outcome of his tournament.
...had those same observations myself and thought it worth repeating.
I am 100% sure the tournament directors randomly picked teams and like it or not that is the way this happened. No slight of hand or "cherry pickin'" going on. Here's something else to consider, OK, the best team at this time of the season gets to advance and go to the MMWS; let us not forget that the AABC has other ways of getting to the MMWS. The other 2 teams will get another shot by going the state and regional tournament route at the end of the season. Look at it this way, FINALLY the DFW area will have a chance to send 2 big time teams to the MMWS. The AABC knew what they were doing when they did this. This will only help in the long run and the best teams will be represented. Ulike other tournaments where you can pay an entry fee and say you made it to the "World Series". Just my 2 cents worth from a 38 year veteran of the AABC who will be there to watch what happens this weekend.
KnightCoach,
Where can I find the bracket for this weekends tournament????
Where can I find the bracket for this weekends tournament????
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Originally posted by Twinsdad:
I am 100% sure the tournament directors randomly picked teams and like it or not that is the way this happened. No slight of hand or "cherry pickin'" going on. .
I think you are wrong. The odds of all three of these teams being in ONE bracket are high, and if I were a math major instead of a computer science major, I would figure it for you. But it's over 1000-1.
The only way this could have happened is if the tournament director did this to try to favor everybody else out of this bracket.
The horrible part of this is that these 3 teams will have to use up thier pitching just to get out of the pool play. Making it easier to pick them off in double elimination.
I smell a rat.
But, as I said before, this is hardly rare. I wouldn't be suprised if they also have the worst schedule of games of all the brackets. Either splitting between early morning games and late night games, or having games that start at 10:00 pm one night and having to be back at the ball park for a 8:00am game the next day.
There are multiple ways tournament directors screw with you.
And on that note, I think I'll shut up, because I know of a few tournament directors that read this board.