Tebow

The Doctor posted:

RJM posted:

Yesterday Jimmy Garoppolo got injured. The Patriots are down to one QB for the next two weeks. A caller to the post game show suggested Tim Tebow be signed. The hosts gave him the opportunity to explain why Tebow would be a solution. Then they busted out laughing and hung up on the caller. At least Ryan Lindley and TJ Yates, the likely options have managed to stick around the NFL. Lindley made it through an entire camp with the Patriots. Tebow was cut after two pathetic preseason appearances. Yates has been a successful starter with NFL mechanics.

Could you see Tebow trying to run the Patriots read offense? No wonder the show hosts burst out laughing. I wouldn't be surprised if they fell off their chairs laughing.

I am kinda surprised that the NFL coaches don't have the skill to take a tooled up athlete and turn him into something. MLB scouts love tools and tools, and will teach you the rest.

 

 

 

There is little room for investment on an NFL roster. Spots are at a premium and there's no minor-league system to which to send young talent, aside from the practice squad. Too much risk and too little reward to work with someone who may fit in somewhere, someday.

Well he IS pretty stubborn.  He refused to change his throwing mechanics, so what else can you do with a guy like that?  

The Doctor posted:

RJM posted:

Yesterday Jimmy Garoppolo got injured. The Patriots are down to one QB for the next two weeks. A caller to the post game show suggested Tim Tebow be signed. The hosts gave him the opportunity to explain why Tebow would be a solution. Then they busted out laughing and hung up on the caller. At least Ryan Lindley and TJ Yates, the likely options have managed to stick around the NFL. Lindley made it through an entire camp with the Patriots. Tebow was cut after two pathetic preseason appearances. Yates has been a successful starter with NFL mechanics.

Could you see Tebow trying to run the Patriots read offense? No wonder the show hosts burst out laughing. I wouldn't be surprised if they fell off their chairs laughing.

I am kinda surprised that the NFL coaches don't have the skill to take a tooled up athlete and turn him into something. MLB scouts love tools and tools, and will teach you the rest.

 

 

 

He can't read the field. He lacks pocket presence. He takes too long to release the ball. His throwing mechanics are weak. He lacks sense of timing. His arm isn't that strong relative to NFL QB's. 

At Florida they could recruit all the best players in the country. He had plenty of time to throw. He had all the fastest receivers. They got open by ten yards.

In the NFL receivers get open by a foot or two on the break. It involves timing. When the Patriots face a strong pass rush Brady gets through three reads in two seconds. 

Don't forget his religious outbursts every time he scored.  No one wants to see that.  There's no place for religious or political showmanship during sports programs. Unless you outburst is on the media agenda.

Yeah, the giant media outcry every time this happens is almost deafening.

Or maybe good players get a pass on this stuff...

I don't recollect the media criticizing Orel Hershiser when he said he sings hymns to himself to calm down in pressure situations. Hershiser was around to win 204 games.

I don't have a single dollar invested in the Mets or Tebow.    So, I really don't care what they do.   It's HIS life and THEIR team.  The sanctimoniousness of many who think they are baseball people is sad.  It's baseball not church.

 Most of this schadenfreude seems to come not from real baseball people, but the hangers-on.   The internet "experts."  The talking heads who never played.  The players who want to place the excuse for their not being in baseball anymore on somebody "doin' me wrong."

He's a good guy who likes to play sports.  He's popular and a goody two-shoes.  I guess that's why people despise him.   He's financially set and can do what he wants.  I suspect that's another reason why people don't like him.     Another ridiculous thing is this unfalsifiable claim that has been hung on him.  Even if the guy makes it to the bigs, it still won't be proof enough for some people.  Just proof that his agent got him there or the team wanted to draw fans or sell jerseys.   That's sad!  

If you look you can find it:  host tweeted: “Wow, Jesus just f—– #TimTebow bad! And on Xmas Eve! Somewhere in hell Satan is tebowing, saying to Hitler ‘Hey, Buffalo’s killing them’” 

http://www.foxsports.com/nfl/s...o-we-hate-him-110211

http://nypost.com/2011/12/06/t...oversy-of-tim-tebow/

I can't speak for everyone (obviously!) but I know for a fact that some people don't like Tebow because he refused to play a position other than QB, even though he could clearly play in the NFL as a safety, or H-Back, or probably a Tight End.   He could put on more muscle even and a be a Fullback.

All of those positions would put his longterm health in much greater jeopardy than playing QB, which is already dangerous enough.   I don't know how deeply people think about it, but I see it as people are resentful at Tebow for denying their entertainment of watching him injure himself terribly on TV.  How dare he?!

Meanwhile: People seem to very conveniently forget that MLB, the NFL, MiLB etc are entertainment businesses and relatively big business at that.  He was signed because a) the Mets can make money and b) who knows maybe he can develop?

Like him or not, qualified or not, you can not say the media and regular people using social media did not rip him apart for his religious beliefs - it's all over the place. 

You guys add more proof

As a Steelers fan.....I can tell you I'm not upset that Tebow isn't in the NFL 

http://www.espn.com/nfl/playof...ams/steelers-broncos

Tebow always reminded me of Doug Flutie. All you kept hearing was how Flutie couldn't possibly make it as an NFL qb. All he did was win everywhere he went. I got to see Tebow here in Denver and all he did was get the "W." It often wasn't pretty, but it worked. If Manning hadn't been available who knows how long he might have remained starting QB here. The biggest problem with Tebow was that in order to take advantage of his skillset, you really had to build an offense around him and hope he didn't get hurt.

I like Tim Tebow!  What he is doing is bringing a lot of attention to the game we love.  If it is just a publicity stunt, it is a damn good one. I hope he makes it, though I don't think he will.   

roothog66 posted:

Tebow always reminded me of Doug Flutie. All you kept hearing was how Flutie couldn't possibly make it as an NFL qb. All he did was win everywhere he went. I got to see Tebow here in Denver and all he did was get the "W." It often wasn't pretty, but it worked. If Manning hadn't been available who knows how long he might have remained starting QB here. The biggest problem with Tebow was that in order to take advantage of his skillset, you really had to build an offense around him and hope he didn't get hurt.

Tebow didn't just win in Denver. He played when they hit a weak part of their schedule. Then the Patriots came to town. The Patriots (ranked 31st in defense) made half time adjustments deciding to keep Tebow in the pocket and force him to be an NFL QB. They buried the Broncos in the. Second half. Then two teams with losing records did the same and beat the Broncos. 

In the playoff game the Steelers were missing three of four starting defensive lineman. They were missing half their secondary. Paul,Ali played very injured after missing a couple of games. Rothlisberger played with a high ankle sprain. 

The the next game the Patriots used the defense they developed for Tebow and embarassed him 45-7. That 1-4 run was when Elway decided Tebiw could t cut it as an NFL QB.

He's far from the first college star who failed in the NFL. He's far from the first Heisman Trophy winner to fail in the NFL. I had nothing against against Tebow until all the born again Tebow followers refused to look at the truth and accept he wasn't a very good NFL QB. Even Belichick was criticized by the born agains for cutting Tebow. Was Tebow supposed to make the team over Brady or Garoppolo? 

2forU posted:

You guys add more proof

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Stafford posted:

#15 Mets jersey now available. Per ESPN, a bridge agreement was signed with Majestic to go ahead and market his jersey even though he isn't a MLB player.

 

This really disappoints me. MLB forbids players names on jerseys unless they are on the 40 man roster. Just seems like anyone or any entity can do what they want. Very disappointed with the team, the agents, Majestic and Tebow.

My heart goes out to all of the players who have worked their butts off to make a MLB roster and proudly wear their name on a jersey and receive part of the MLB profits for that uni.

TPM posted:

Stafford posted:

#15 Mets jersey now available. Per ESPN, a bridge agreement was signed with Majestic to go ahead and market his jersey even though he isn't a MLB player.

 

This really disappoints me. MLB forbids players names on jerseys unless they are on the 40 man roster. Just seems like anyone or any entity can do what they want. Very disappointed with the team, the agents, Majestic and Tebow.

My heart goes out to all of the players who have worked their butts off to make a MLB roster and proudly wear their name on a jersey and receive part of the MLB profits for that uni.

I just saw on SportsCenter since Tebow isn't on the 40 man roster the Mets and he don't have to share the revenue from the $125 Tebow jersies with the MLBPA. The members of the MLBPA worked their tails off to get where they are. Tebow gets it handed to him and walks off with the profits.

I wonder if that will get him a fastball in the ear hole in the spring. I could picture a MLB pitcher sarcastically saying in the dugout, "Let's see if he has MLB reflexes at the plate" and drilling him.

Tebow just signed a new contract with Adidas didn't he?   They have to love this picture.