Go44dad posted:He will sign with the Sugar Land Skeeters, an Indy team in Texas. They signed Tracy McGrady two years ago. They also had Scott Kazmir on their roster several years back when he was on the comeback trail.
Don't forget the Rocket. I think they brought in one of his boys to catch him in a game.
The proponents/believers do have me thinking. It would be a GREAT storyline for baseball if he got far enough in someone's system to see if he could really do it. Could you imagine his MLB debut?
I have always disliked the guy. Not because he is a Christian or expresses his faith publicly -- I keep that stuff out of it and like others, I get that on Sunday mornings. I do respect him personally.
My teams were just always on the opposite side of his during his college glory days, and he repeatedly whipped our butts, and he sure as hell enjoyed it while he was doing it! Not more complicated than that, he's one of those guys in sports.
BUT, if he made it to MLB, or even high MiLB? Darn right I would be watching every AB I could! It would be one heckuva story and you would have to watch!
Why give up on your dreams if you don't have to? Good for him! Hope he makes it! If you think it's a waste of time, watch / read something else - real simple.
I'm not a Tebow fan. But, I can respect a guy who sets a goal and goes after it. Who knows if he'll make it or not. All we can do is speculate (some people's speculation is better than others). My biggest question, besides his hitting, is his speed. As an outfield "prospect", I imagine he needs some pretty impressive speed. As I said, not a fan, so I've never followed his career and I have no idea what his speed looks like. Anybody have insight on that?
Some one else here said it and I agree this will end similar to Michael Jordan. Problem is some of these nfl'ers and commentators don't respect the game of baseball so they think it's easy. When in fact it's the hardest to play. MJ hit 70% of his shots, in baseball it takes 30% accuracy to be considered great like MJ.
Ironic thought I jus had - what if he didn't make it in football because he insisted on throwing the ball for a living and he failed at baseball because he refused to throw the ball for a living.....
I would speculate that he has a better chance than 99% of our kids to make it the show. Add to the fact that he has the means and ability to enlist the best of the best to train him. Not to mention the drive. Of course it's a long shot, it's a long shot for all but the Trout's and Harper's of the world.
Stafford posted:Thoughts?
My thoughts....I'm feeling sorry for whoever was suppose to have that spot in MLB. Tebow hasn't played a baseball game in 10 years and yet he's going to fly through the system because of the wow factor.
I'm not saying he isn't a great athlete, he very much is. What I'm saying is there are better baseball players than Tebow and one of them may miss their shot at MLB because Tebow beat them on name recognition, rather than talent.
He won't get to the MLB because of his name.....Jordan didn't make it on name alone.....no way Tebow gets thru unless he's got the ability. He'll likely get a shot at the minors.....but he'll have to earn anything above that
It's "Unfair" that Tebow got a big athletic body by birth. It's "unfair" that he got a drive to win that others don't have by accident of birth. It's "unfair" that Tebow got to play at Florida and have a great career. It's "unfair" that he gets to be on television. It's "unfair" that everyone knows his name. It's "unfair" that he gets opportunities that others don't because of it. It's "unfair" that he can make a club money and be a draw to games because of all the aforementioned "unfair" advantages he has.
It's "unfair" that Trout and Harper have great baseball skills by birth. It's "unfair" that they have big athletic bodies to complement their skills. It's "unfair" that they also had strong work ethics. It's "unfair" that they get paid millions for these God given talents. It's "unfair" that these God given talents are keeping other good players out of the MLB.
It's "unfair" that Nolan Ryan had an inborn knowledge of how to throw a ball very hard, and the size to go with it. It's "unfair' that he never won a Cy Young.
It's "unfair" that Derek Jeter was a very good baseball player and was good looking too and dated some incredible women. It's unfair that a lot of good short stops got drafted to the Yankees but never got a chance, because Jeter had a choke hold on the position.
We've become such and "unfair", "I'm a victim" society.
Don't teach this stuff to your kids.
NOT ONE of the prior posts said anything was "unfair", or begrudged Tebow any of his accomplishments. Take your political BS to some whackadoodle political message board.
Reading comp is not your strong suit is it. Go back and read a little.
Teaching Elder posted:Reading comp is not your strong suit is it. Go back and read a little.
I just did a control F search on all of page 1 and 2 and the first time the word unfair was used was by you.
Obviously you feel the situation of Trout and Harper having good bodies is unfair and you have a serious disagreement with Derek Jeter's girlfriends and position. Take a deep breath and remember:
"I'm good enough, I'm smart enough, and gosh darn it people like me"
-Church Lady circa 1990
CaCO3Girl posted:Stafford posted:Thoughts?
My thoughts....I'm feeling sorry for whoever was suppose to have that spot in MLB. Tebow hasn't played a baseball game in 10 years and yet he's going to fly through the system because of the wow factor.
I'm not saying he isn't a great athlete, he very much is. What I'm saying is there are better baseball players than Tebow and one of them may miss their shot at MLB because Tebow beat them on name recognition, rather than talent.
MTH posted:NOT ONE of the prior posts said anything was "unfair", or begrudged Tebow any of his accomplishments. Take your political BS to some whackadoodle political message board.
Uh.....the word unfair isn't in the above post....but that certainly seems to be the insinuation 
Teaching Elder posted:It's "Unfair" that Tebow got a big athletic body by birth. It's "unfair" that he got a drive to win that others don't have by accident of birth. It's "unfair" that Tebow got to play at Florida and have a great career. It's "unfair" that he gets to be on television. It's "unfair" that everyone knows his name. It's "unfair" that he gets opportunities that others don't because of it. It's "unfair" that he can make a club money and be a draw to games because of all the aforementioned "unfair" advantages he has.
It's "unfair" that Trout and Harper have great baseball skills by birth. It's "unfair" that they have big athletic bodies to complement their skills. It's "unfair" that they also had strong work ethics. It's "unfair" that they get paid millions for these God given talents. It's "unfair" that these God given talents are keeping other good players out of the MLB.
It's "unfair" that Nolan Ryan had an inborn knowledge of how to throw a ball very hard, and the size to go with it. It's "unfair' that he never won a Cy Young.
It's "unfair" that Derek Jeter was a very good baseball player and was good looking too and dated some incredible women. It's unfair that a lot of good short stops got drafted to the Yankees but never got a chance, because Jeter had a choke hold on the position.
We've become such and "unfair", "I'm a victim" society.
Don't teach this stuff to your kids.
Yo Teach, you having a bad day?
Smile it is only small argument on a fairly insignificant topic that most likely will not ever materialize into anything!!
"I'm good enough, I'm smart enough, and gosh darn it people like me"
That was not the Church Lady. That was Stuart Smalley. But I get the picture. You're trying to take an oblique shot at my profession.
"Unfair" was insinuated throughout your post. It's that same thing that was said when Michael Jordan played. Same thing when Jim Morris went back. Way too easily thrown around. Cliched argument that is easily debunked.
Not even the great Charlie Lau could help Tim on this adventure as a hitter.
Teaching Elder posted:"I'm good enough, I'm smart enough, and gosh darn it people like me"
That was not the Church Lady. That was Stuart Smalley. But I get the picture. You're trying to take an oblique shot at my profession.
"Unfair" was insinuated throughout your post. It's that same thing that was said when Michael Jordan played. Same thing when Jim Morris went back. Way too easily thrown around. Cliched argument that is easily debunked.
I don't know what your profession is, but I will admit I get my SNL skits mixed up.
Feeling sorry for someone does not mean it is automatically an "unfair" situation.
If a man gambles away everything, looses his job and family due to his addiction, and is on the streets I can feel sorry that he wound up there, but I don't think it was unfair that he did.
Tim Tebow will not cost anyone a shot at big league baseball. If he gets on a roster, they won't be sitting some guy hitting .300 and driving in a lot of runs just so he can take their spot. The guy who will sit will be the same guy who always sits - the one struggling to stay above the Mendoza line and not producing at the level he's playing at.
CaCO3Girl posted:"I'm good enough, I'm smart enough, and gosh darn it people like me"-Church Lady circa 1990
Ummmm... Actually that's Stuart Smalley... LOL!
And he's not living in a van down by the river
No. He's now a Senator from like Minnesota or somewhere.
2forU posted:And he's not living in a van down by the river
Nope, that's the OTHER MiLB'er, although I think it was a van in a parking lot....he had a hot plate though, so he had that going for him!
Michael Jordan jumped straight into Double A and hit .200. That's better than what I would've done and better than what many 1st rounders end up doing. If Tebow can hit .250 at the same level I'll be very impressed. Who knows, he might be way better at baseball than he is at football.
His swing is a lot better than I thought it would be...
http://www.espn.com/video/clip?id=espn:17256919
Sheffield: Tebow can be in Majors in two years
http://www.espn.com/video/clip?id=espn:17255355
Bolts-Coach-PR posted:His swing is a lot better than I thought it would be...
http://www.espn.com/video/clip?id=espn:17256919
That was my first time seeing him with a bat and agree that swing is pretty good...gets his foot down early so he doesn't have a ton of moving parts. Oh, and it helps to be donkey strong!
Obviously, the biggest hurdle will be recognizing pitches.
Side-show Tim will make it to the Ray's 40 man roster 'til the end of the year. What did they have, like 12K in the stands at their last home game? He will put butts in the seats for a month or 2 and that will be it. Next year he'll be doing the ESPN gig and eventually will be elected as a senator or congressman for FL.
This story is so predictable.....lol
Bolts-Coach-PR posted:His swing is a lot better than I thought it would be...
http://www.espn.com/video/clip?id=espn:17256919
Sheffield: Tebow can be in Majors in two years
http://www.espn.com/video/clip?id=espn:17255355
swing is much better then I would have guessed but it is still a cage and BP...
Sheffield IMO doesn't do much to sway an argument in this interview. He probably wouldn't be real high on my list of guys I would be going to discuss hitting with.
He hit .490 in his Junior year in HS so he probably was a solid Player but making mlb as a 29 year old who has not played for a whole decade is something else.
I'm sure scouts/teams are always intrigued when a guy with Tebow's athletic prowess and character wants to give it a go on the diamond. I've got no problem with him trying out or even announcing that he wants to give it go. He'll have to compete just like the others who have been honing their craft without interruption for the past 15-20 years. The odds are clearly stacked against him
old_school posted:Bolts-Coach-PR posted:His swing is a lot better than I thought it would be...
http://www.espn.com/video/clip?id=espn:17256919
Sheffield: Tebow can be in Majors in two years
http://www.espn.com/video/clip?id=espn:17255355swing is much better then I would have guessed but it is still a cage and BP...
Sheffield IMO doesn't do much to sway an argument in this interview. He probably wouldn't be real high on my list of guys I would be going to discuss hitting with.
Why not? Sheffield was a great hitter! Probably the quickest bat I've seen, and he worked VERY hard at his craft. He's probably forgot more about hitting than anyone on these boards...
Ryan, there are a lot of great former players who can't describe how they do it. What they describe is contrary to what you see.
ClevelandDad posted:Tim Tebow will not cost anyone a shot at big league baseball. If he gets on a roster, they won't be sitting some guy hitting .300 and driving in a lot of runs just so he can take their spot. The guy who will sit will be the same guy who always sits - the one struggling to stay above the Mendoza line and not producing at the level he's playing at.
100% correct.
rynoattack posted:old_school posted:Bolts-Coach-PR posted:His swing is a lot better than I thought it would be...
http://www.espn.com/video/clip?id=espn:17256919
Sheffield: Tebow can be in Majors in two years
http://www.espn.com/video/clip?id=espn:17255355swing is much better then I would have guessed but it is still a cage and BP...
Sheffield IMO doesn't do much to sway an argument in this interview. He probably wouldn't be real high on my list of guys I would be going to discuss hitting with.
Why not? Sheffield was a great hitter! Probably the quickest bat I've seen, and he worked VERY hard at his craft. He's probably forgot more about hitting than anyone on these boards...
he was a great hitter and may have had the quickest bat I have ever seen as well. None of that has any influence on if he knows how to discuss hitting, understands how to teach concepts in a meaningful way and is able to produce a swing that works for another person. nor does it indicate he any idea that he would have a some kind of above average opinion on Tebows ability.
PG staff would certainly better equipped for that conversation, as would most any good college baseball coach or even many instructors from travel programs....
The most oversold and worthless tag line in baseball is when programs advertise lessons with ex-player IMO
The deep down burning desire to compete is something that's hard to explain. My silly wore out A$$ drove all over the country to play ball, up into my 40s. I can't imagine being one of the best athletes in the world and not playing, and pushing and fighting every weekend.
Hitting a baseball is very very hard, even for gifted athletes. I believe I already know what will be the outcome of this attempt to keep on playing pro sports. But I totally understand why he is doing it.
As soon as my Advil kicks in I am gonna throw BP to some HS kids today....that's how I compete!
Doc - Make sure to announce your presence with AUTHORITY.....and hope none of them plunk the bull!!!!
Will Advil fix my shoddy labrum? I would love to be able to throw a ball 35 feet without significant ARC again.
I'm thinking of making a comeback. I throw as hard as I ever did. The ball just arrives a lot later now.
Pretty detailed swing analysis from Coach Lisle.
