THBCA State Rankings for 5A

Looks like the THBCA list is Houston area heavy. Also, West Texas appears more than it usually does on these lists.

Looks like you have three top 10's within ten miles of each other (Coppell, Southlake Carroll and Flower Mound).

Colleyville should be on that list in my opinion.

With the move-in at Marcus, they should be tough also.

I'm not a big fan of lists usually, but I find these interesting. It adds some insight to games which I might not know anything about the teams.

9 Houston area teams in the top 25. That represents us pretty well I'd say! I'm telling you, Klein Collins, Katy, The Woodlands and Langham Creek are legitimate. Look for at least one of those teams to be at Dell this June.

What do the DFW old timers think about the order of the DFW area 5A teams....

4. Flower Mound
9. Southlake Carroll
10. Coppell
17. Garland Namaan Forest
19. Rowlett
20. Allen


Does a similar list exist for 4A?

Houston area definitely has a strong representation.

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4. Flower Mound
9. Southlake Carroll
10. Coppell
17. Garland Namaan Forest
19. Rowlett
20. Allen

Order may not be that far off for pre-season. Rowlett may be the only one that should be higher, maybe around 11.

Thinking about a sleeper or two not on the list.

Newman-Smith?

Rowlett vs Flower Mound at Ameriquest on March 24th.

Can't wait!!!!!

I think these DFW teams are good enough to be included in the preseason list....but I think FM is too high overall....and I think Coppell will finish ahead of them in 6-5A.

PD,
Is this a suck up to Train? FM is a better ballclub than Coppell based on a deeper pitching staff alone. Of course, Train Son may be the sleeper on the Coppell staff, so maybe he knows something none of us know.

Nope -- no reason to suck up to you-know-who. I think Coppell's pitching at the top will be better than FM's....even if FM's arms are better top to bottom. Notice I said I thought they would finish ahead of them in 6-5A -- I never mentioned playoffs! PLAYOFFS??? Did you say PLAYOFFS???

I don't know Train's kid -- send me a private message and fill me in.

Obviously FM has a lot of talent -- I just think Coppell's #1 is better than FM's #1 -- and there are very few #2's around town that will dominate each time out.

Uncle Ethan -- how do you think Cunningham will fit in the Southlake rotation?

-PD

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Obviously FM has a lot of talent -- I just think Coppell's #1 is better than FM's #1 -- and there are very few #2's around town that will dominate each time out.

Its not even a question comparing the two #1's from both schools. Who is FM's #2....we plan on playing a long time this school year! Do we really need a #2 when we are going to win every one game series we play??? MEAT would you not agree??

PD you should see my new coin!

I still believe they are OVERRATED!

Now that should wake up the FM faithful.

I can't believe it took Train this long to get on this thread...I thought his computer was frozen in a snow bank.

well i was sure hoping that round rock would be up there, we're number seven I knew Klein Collins would be ranked high.

Train,

It won't matter this year if we play a one game playoff or a three game series ...even if there is lightening 30 miles away either way Coppell wins. We will have better relief available or we will have options at #2 +.

Our #2 starter might be a game pitched by committee, a little off speed for two innings, a little Sophomore heat for 2 or 3 innings and a senior closer.

There are a lot of good arms to choose from, I thought Cam showed great velocity in the fall with good location. I hope he pitches some this year.

I look forward to seeing Rowlett 2/13 in a scrimmage and Southlake is in the Baylor Tournament so we should have a chance to get some good tune-ups in before District.

As for District, I think Marcus moved a head of FM and FM might have to worry about beating Hebron/Newman-Smith/Lewisville to get into the 4 team playoffs ( Any FM fans out there)

Who is the FM #1, Zach Neal? Ok, but who is the #2?

I am really asking, I am not trying to demean them, I just want to know.

Actually this year in 6- 5A it will matter who your #2 is because a 7-7 ( win all your #1 games and lose the #2's) record might leave you on the outside looking in even with 4 playoff spots. That is true for most districts.

As for the list, I am surprised not to see more Austin/ San Antonio schools on the list.

I look forward to the start of baseball

You guys are funny --- "who is FM's #2??? Our's is ????"

"If Merck steps up" "If Emens steps up" "If Meinhard steps up" "If Cunningham steps up" ---- teams have "ifs" in January -- that's why the UIL allows a scrimmage season and up to 3 pre-season tournaments. But it's fun to speculate.

Most of the DFW teams have the same questions -- including the others that were listed in the top 25 (Southlake, Rowlett, and Allen). I think there are many teams around that would enjoy the "luxury" of a proven #1. 7-7 will get some teams into the playoffs --- teams made the football tournament with losing records.

Is it spring yet???

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Originally posted by MeatsDad:
As for the list, I am surprised not to see more Austin/ San Antonio schools on the list.

Smithson Valley should be right in there with SA Reagan. Although SV may not be quite as strong as last year (lost Volz, their big ace).

T-BIRD DAD - some of us still work for a living

MEATSDAD....
I tried to tell DE that our starters need to play in the non conf games to get ready for the conf games....not sure he bought into it.

We will be ready for the conf though. I agree with you that FM will be lucky to make the playoffs this year. How can they be a #4 ranking?? Really makes me wonder. I too was surprised not to see Moddy in the rankings. They are always good.

I am sure FM's #2 is an underclassman. It really does not matter who #2 is when you have what we have this year!

Wake up FM....where are you honest and unbiased?? Meat...maybe they are at band practice getting ready for our game again! That was some home field advantage for that game last year which we all under estimated.

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Train:
T-BIRD DAD - some of us still work for a living
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I guess you do to stay in that community also known as Southlake Lite.

Train, Moody dropped down to 4A this season, which is why they arent in the 5A rankings. and yeah, they always seem to be good.

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Originally posted by 2010DAD:
I know that flower Mound might have the best sophmore class this year. Jacob Morris is one of the best athlete in any class. His fastball will vary from high 80's to Low 90's and with his arm angle good luck trying to hit his 2 seam. Also I believe he is the fasted kid in 5A baseball. Just my opionion. Let me know what you think after the season,

No doubt Jacob is a stud, is he their #2? Who else is on the pitching staff? Yes, there sophomore class is stout, Collin Ashley can flat go get it in centerfield and is a good leadoff batter, Chase Durham and the rest of the class is solid. Is Ty Wheeler from Flower Mound? Who in the soph class will play varsity and do any of them pitch?

Train....

Moody is now 4A! That is a 5A ranking.

www.dragonbaseball.net

cant wait for this spring

Now Morris is 90+? -- give me a break people. The fastest kid in 5A baseball? -- oh come on! Bring him out to the Plano East track and we'll invite Chris Slater, Nick Miller, Brandon Loy, and several others....

For those of you that think a team full of sophomores should make a huge impact in 6-5a -- I'd tap the breaks a bit. FM will continue to rely on their upperclassmen, including their D1 signees. Concerning this kid....he is no doubt a very good athlete. Let's let him play varsity for a year before his retired number hangs from the FM hitting tunnel.

And mom and dad, if you read this site, you know I am not disrespecting your son -- it's not my style.

Train, are your young pups throwing mid 90's yet?

Well, Panther you have a very good point. But I've seen some sophomores make large impact's on District and Playoffs. For instance, freshman Josh Elander. (now sophmore) DH'd last year for RR and came through with very clutch hits when no one else was hitting. It seems as if the underclassmen are the ones that get the pitches no one else does.

That is no doubt true, RBI Baller --- we have a long list of FR and SO contributors in this area as well. I'm not discounting the notion, just suggesting that there is plenty of time for accolades a few months from now.

understood

Coppell will not rely on it's sophomores. With Seniors like Cole Green, Jonathan Kaskow, Wade English, Chris Castillo,Cameron Watten, and David De La Chapelle I am sure they will have enough talent to complete.

The sophomores will help, Chad Kettler played the whole season and Johnny Walsh will be fine.

I think PD is right, let's wait and see what the young'ins bring before we hang any banners. But by the end of the season I sure a few sophs we have played a big role on what ever teams make it out of the Regionals.

Coppell only has one pitcher who throws 90+, Cole Green.

Does Flower Mound have any?

PD....I agree with you...no sophmores are going to make a huge difference on a varsity team. I seen most of those FM kids play last summer...though talented will not make a difference overall this year. I hope they all play

If you stop FM's three senior hitters you stop the whole team. But isn't that the same for most teams? Opps... I forgot about the FM sophmores that will jack the ball for them

Regarding our young pups throwing in the 90's....doubt it. In fact our old pup is not hitting 90 yet...but he will...soon.

There is no way JM is hitting 90plus now. Saw this great prospect over the summer and just not there consistently. If he is the fastest kid around I still dont worry cause you have to put the ball into play and I did not observe that over the summer with lower class pitching.

I forgot about Moody dropping down to 4A...thank God that will help us all. I'm surprised Southlake has not tried to drop down to 4A since they have not won a championship in baseball for some time. Larry always has that team ready to play!

Where is OLDBAT? I miss her comments.

I can tell you, a soph. at Jesuit will make a HUGE difference... but that's probably because last year our catching situation was so bad, anything is an improvement. Soph's might not be game changing players, but if they fill holes from the year before, they can help a lot... of course at these two schools... holes aren't a problem.

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Originally posted by Dtiger:
I can tell you, a soph. at Jesuit will make a HUGE difference... but that's probably because last year our catching situation was so bad, anything is an improvement. Soph's might not be game changing players, but if they fill holes from the year before, they can help a lot... of course at these two schools... holes aren't a problem.

Yes, DTiger, Shortall is a very good player...bright future!

While I'm not Oldbat or Honest and Unbiased, I think when FM plays Coppell and Marcus, bottom line, you'll see good baseball. On any given day, a good team can win or lose as we have seen in past years. Even the great teams with the stud pitchers throwing 90+ can lose. I think Coppell has great players and I like Coach English. We have a lot of respect for them as we do for Marcus. If either Coppell or Marcus wins when we play them, congratulations. Does anyone really enjoy the games where it's 15-0? My son likes and respects the players and coaches and thats all that really matters. As far as sophomores, we have some great athletes and they'll help us over the next few years. Fortunately, I have two more to go through this so I'll be able to watch them all.

As far as Pitchers, we have many pitchers. Until the season starts, I don't think anyone knows who will be #1 and #2. I always heard CG or BB was moving here but I guess that was just a tease.

Train, your son is a great player and if you are anything like how you are on the HSBaseballweb, your house has to be one exciting place during baseball season. It's probably that way in the off season too! Good luck to you and yours and obviously the boys need to start soon since everyone is going stir crazy!

Are the 4A rankings out yet?

PD,
I am not familiar enough with SLC to know about Cunningham. I will say that I saw Chase Reid throw a perfect game at the Connie Mack Regional against a VERY good DBAT 17u team. He was completely dominant. As I recall nobody even got a good swing. I know that some would choose CG or BB, but I'll take me some CR any day.

Joe Leftridge is the fastest player in 5A baseball. End of discussion.

Zach Neal is FM's #1. I am guessing Bobby Doran is #2.

MeatsDad - Thanks for the unraveling the mystery.

I saw them at the show in Waco. I know that CC Calallen was #1 and Moody #2. Was shocked to see Lamar Consolidated unranked. They are loaded with stud players this year. We have them at #2 in H5AB 4A poll. I will see if I can find the list..

Thank you, sir. Look forward to seeing the list if you find one.

RBI - we (Spring) plays Round Rock this year in the Westlake tournament.

You better believe that we will be watching when you guys play The Woodlands. Woodlands returns 6 starters from last years state championship team. Their ace, Jerad Stevens, started 5 games last year and 3 of them were 1 hit shutouts. 5 D1 signees. I hear RR has loads of talent this year too.

DFW people - I think you guys will hear a lot more about Klein Collins and Katy. To give you an idea of Klein Collins' pitching depth, their #4 got a scholarship to Blinn. That team is unbelievable...

This thread is a perfect example of why these lists were established.

For all the parents, and a few players to get all wound up and start the hub bub.

Remember the only #1 team is the last one standing.

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Originally posted by Ken Guthrie:
This thread is a perfect example of why these lists were established.

For all the parents, and a few players to get all wound up and start the hub bub.

Remember the only #1 team is the last one standing.

sorry its been so long, im in that thing called school