@PABaseball posted:Face the music how? He immediately came out and defended his innocence. Despite a very uncomfortable and graphic read, it seems like he has some pretty compelling evidence of his own.
If he did it, he's scum. If he didn't do it, he has no reason to cave.
In the NFL he would be suspended, cut, and end up signing with a contender as soon as his suspension was over.
So true!
The Dodgers canceled his bobblehead night and stopped selling his jersey.
(Not a joke)
@2022NYC posted:The heavy article sheds a lot of details from both the accuser and Bauer through texts.
Hard to understand why anyone would assault someone else and think it was OK, nevermind thinking that the other person liked it. He imposed his darkest desires on someone and justified it as well, they didn't punch back.
Trevor Bauer needs counseling.
I am trying my best not be judgemental and I admit I am naive to this fetish, but TB is a smart man and celebrity and knows he is a mark and this is definitely not a first or second date activity even if using tinder
I will refrain from ascribing guilt/innocence or even from commenting on what people do in the bedroom (no matter how much I don't get it) because there is just so much we don't know about both sides of this story.
But, that aside, Bauer is done. He will never command the money he did nor will he every be as popular as he once was. (Even if it's proven she was on board). My son was a huge Bauer fan. He admired his passion and work ethic and slightly nerdy analytical approach to pitching. Now he's out. He said "worst case, he's a rapist. Best case, he's a freak. Either way I'm out" unsubscribed from his social media and dropped him from his fantasy baseball team. I suspect he isn't the only one.
You're only worth big money to the MLB if you have a fanbase/following. Think about how much flack Trout gets just because he doesn't want to do non-baseball stuff in the public eye...
@LousyLefty posted:I will refrain from ascribing guilt/innocence or even from commenting on what people do in the bedroom (no matter how much I don't get it) because there is just so much we don't know about both sides of this story.
But, that aside, Bauer is done. He will never command the money he did nor will he every be as popular as he once was. (Even if it's proven she was on board). My son was a huge Bauer fan. He admired his passion and work ethic and slightly nerdy analytical approach to pitching. Now he's out. He said "worst case, he's a rapist. Best case, he's a freak. Either way I'm out" unsubscribed from his social media and dropped him from his fantasy baseball team. I suspect he isn't the only one.
You're only worth big money to the MLB if you have a fanbase/following. Think about how much flack Trout gets just because he doesn't want to do non-baseball stuff in the public eye...
Good for your son, with all the problems in the world, our children don't need him as a role model.
JMO
@LousyLefty posted:I will refrain from ascribing guilt/innocence or even from commenting on what people do in the bedroom (no matter how much I don't get it) because there is just so much we don't know about both sides of this story.
But, that aside, Bauer is done. He will never command the money he did nor will he every be as popular as he once was. (Even if it's proven she was on board). My son was a huge Bauer fan. He admired his passion and work ethic and slightly nerdy analytical approach to pitching. Now he's out. He said "worst case, he's a rapist. Best case, he's a freak. Either way I'm out" unsubscribed from his social media and dropped him from his fantasy baseball team. I suspect he isn't the only one.
You're only worth big money to the MLB if you have a fanbase/following. Think about how much flack Trout gets just because he doesn't want to do non-baseball stuff in the public eye...
My son felt the same way and did the same thing…he is done with Bauer
Domingo Germán got an 81 game suspension and charges were never filed against him - although there were witnesses to his actions. That said, it wouldn't shock me if Bauer got at least the same.
@DD 2024 posted:Hard to understand why anyone would assault someone else and think it was OK, nevermind thinking that the other person liked it. He imposed his darkest desires on someone and justified it as well, they didn't punch back.
Trevor Bauer needs counseling.
hard to believe somebody would be assaulted, choked unconscious, raped, stay the night and then after a couple of weeks to reflect come back at midnight to do it over again....but I will withhold judgement as well since all parties involved seem to be beyond stupid.
@LousyLefty posted:I will refrain from ascribing guilt/innocence or even from commenting on what people do in the bedroom (no matter how much I don't get it) because there is just so much we don't know about both sides of this story.
But, that aside, Bauer is done. He will never command the money he did nor will he every be as popular as he once was. (Even if it's proven she was on board). My son was a huge Bauer fan. He admired his passion and work ethic and slightly nerdy analytical approach to pitching. Now he's out. He said "worst case, he's a rapist. Best case, he's a freak. Either way I'm out" unsubscribed from his social media and dropped him from his fantasy baseball team. I suspect he isn't the only one.
You're only worth big money to the MLB if you have a fanbase/following. Think about how much flack Trout gets just because he doesn't want to do non-baseball stuff in the public eye...
Wait what? i get most of this post but dropped him from the fantasy team? doesn't he have IR option he could move him to for this play out? i mean cmon you cant just drop a pitcher like that...he has a league to win!
A new article claims that she texted him after the first encounter that she enjoyed getting choked out and that the pain turned her on.
Still even if that is true it doesn't reflect well on Bauer that he went over the top so much and that he seeked out an encounter like that.
@Dominik85 posted:A new article claims that she texted him after the first encounter that she enjoyed getting choked out and that the pain turned her on.
Still even if that is true it doesn't reflect well on Bauer that he went over the top so much and that he seeked out an encounter like that.
if true i would say it changes things dramatically. Reference Dave Portnoy...
@old_school posted:hard to believe somebody would be assaulted, choked unconscious, raped, stay the night and then after a couple of weeks to reflect come back at midnight to do it over again....but I will withhold judgement as well since all parties involved seem to be beyond stupid.
Ugh, don't want to go there. Let's see what the courts decide.
Bauer got banned for two years without pay, I think that is the longest ban in mlb history
@Dominik85 posted:Bauer got banned for two years without pay, I think that is the longest ban in mlb history
without time served. manfried was out for blood.
as an aside, i'm a pitcher, science nerd and dodger fan so i'm partial to TB...at least his baseball content. He came out with a youtube blog today (i think before the announcement was made) that had, i think, some pure gold in it:
he was working with a trainer to measure stress and recovery on the ucl. to do this, they imaged his elbow and measured the ucl before throwing, after throwing and after a recovery workout to see how much it stretched. I think they mentioned that an increase of approximately 6% in ucl length correlated to a danger zone of snapping. I was listening to it on the way home so i didn't pay too close attention to the details, but it was a cool approach to a problem that has baffled baseball for years (why does the ucl get injured). I know this is the bash TB thread but i thought this would be interesting to the people here.
Bauer is a tool. Manfred is a tool. Let's see where the courts take this.
Based on the background articles I've read, this looks to be a lot of overreach by the Commissioner and his office on a very sensitive topic that has become a hot button in professional sports....as it should be. Domestic violence has no place in our society. Also, nobody here knows everything about this case, so this is going to be interesting. If I was Bauer, I'd call the the Commissioner's bluff on this.
JMO.
Fenway, your words "tool" should be change to "fool".
Bauer is an "insult" to the game of baseball. If he ever plays again, I would advise him not to cover 1B. What would Tommy L. do?
Bob
@Consultant posted:Fenway, your words "tool" should be change to "fool".
Bauer is an "insult" to the game of baseball. If he ever plays again, I would advise him not to cover 1B. What would Tommy L. do?
Bob
Granted, I’ll admit that I don’t know the guy personally, and made you do? But I do follow his content on social media along with Eric Simms. They got some really good stuff out there, and they do have a POSITIVE reach with the younger crowd a lot more than some may think. Between the two of those guys they make baseball more fun. That’s the real issue Manfred and MLB can’t seem to figure out. We like to glorify baseball players but, when you really think about it what is the intrinsic value of hitting or throwing a baseball? Bauer seems to be very transparent with the content he puts out there. With everything that’s been released in the public eye, it would seem like MLB jumped on a “hot-topic button” without actual evidence of it even happening. Come to find out the really bad stuff never happened and the actual event was consensual. Also, seems a little suspicious that MLB took their hard stance against Bauer after he gave them a huge black eye with the whole sticky stuff. I guess I’m old fashion and like to believe people should be innocent till actually proven guilty. As far as I’m aware Bauer has yet to be proven guilty of anything in a court of law; however, court of public opinion seems to not give a $*=t.
Jm2c and you don’t have to agree me, but from my point of view the guy is good for the game.
@ReluctantO'sFan posted:Granted, I’ll admit that I don’t know the guy personally, and made you do? But I do follow his content on social media along with Eric Simms. They got some really good stuff out there, and they do have a POSITIVE reach with the younger crowd a lot more than some may think. Between the two of those guys they make baseball more fun. That’s the real issue Manfred and MLB can’t seem to figure out. We like to glorify baseball players but, when you really think about it what is the intrinsic value of hitting or throwing a baseball? Bauer seems to be very transparent with the content he puts out there. With everything that’s been released in the public eye, it would seem like MLB jumped on a “hot-topic button” without actual evidence of it even happening. Come to find out the really bad stuff never happened and the actual event was consensual. Also, seems a little suspicious that MLB took their hard stance against Bauer after he gave them a huge black eye with the whole sticky stuff. I guess I’m old fashion and like to believe people should be innocent till actually proven guilty. As far as I’m aware Bauer has yet to be proven guilty of anything in a court of law; however, court of public opinion seems to not give a $*=t.
Jm2c and you don’t have to agree me, but from my point of view the guy is good for the game.
Your opinion may not be popular with some, but I think you are spot on. I agree with everything you said.
Bauer is probably the most innovative pitcher in MLB history. And almost all of his innovation is open sourced on YouTube. Innovators always generate lots of enemies who prefer the status quo.
Manfred is definitely the worst commissioner in MLB history. How do you have a commissioner who doesn't even like the game.
No point in commenting in detail on the allegations. Anyone who's actually read the court documents knows the situation. Those who haven't read the court documents will follow the Twitter mob.
