Does anyone know about this tourney? I know at least three of the players on the Babe Ruth team that have never played an inning for any Babe Ruth Team. How are the teams picked?
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They are picked by a selection committee.
USA Baseball, Baseball America and some other organizations decide who they feel are the best players (or the best connected players) and invite them to compete to represent this nation in international play.
Looking at the line scores, the selections aren't that wonderful. There have been games with five and six errors. Teams blown out by ten runs or more.
It seems that the international team is already chosen and the Tournament of Stars is just a charade.
The USA team and the AABC team are stacked. There are a few of the favorites on other teams but that is probably just for balance when the selections are announced.
We are supposed to believe that these organizations chose an All Star team to send to this event.
USA Baseball, Baseball America and some other organizations decide who they feel are the best players (or the best connected players) and invite them to compete to represent this nation in international play.
Looking at the line scores, the selections aren't that wonderful. There have been games with five and six errors. Teams blown out by ten runs or more.
It seems that the international team is already chosen and the Tournament of Stars is just a charade.
The USA team and the AABC team are stacked. There are a few of the favorites on other teams but that is probably just for balance when the selections are announced.
We are supposed to believe that these organizations chose an All Star team to send to this event.
If you are not in the forest when the tree falls you don't hear it
Bobo --you are a piece of work
Bobo --you are a piece of work
There are boatloads of major D1 college coaches and MLB scouts in Joplin for a reason. Most of these kids will be getting the 7/1 phone calls from these coaches, and they are there to really take in how their recruits perform.
Each kid there has an opportunity to climb the ranks with MLB, and to solidify colleges true interest levels.
TEAMUSA is a bonus opportunity. If you feel the roster is pre-determined, or rigged, then wait for the results of the preliminary roster of 32 before you judge.
If a kid there performs well, shows great tools, but is passed up, then anyone has the right to inquire why. Regarding blowout games in Joplin so far after 2 days, haven't the "experts" already determined the 2007 draft class will be offensively stacked, with great hitters?
WillieBobo says:
"Looking at the line scores, the selections aren't that wonderful. There have been games with five and six errors. Teams blown out by ten runs or more. "
Welcome to baseball. Didn't the CHISOX just score like 70 runs the past 6 games? I suppose the opposing MLB teams have the wrong players, or crummy pitchers on their rosters???????????
***********on a personal note, keep the train rollin!!
Each kid there has an opportunity to climb the ranks with MLB, and to solidify colleges true interest levels.
TEAMUSA is a bonus opportunity. If you feel the roster is pre-determined, or rigged, then wait for the results of the preliminary roster of 32 before you judge.
If a kid there performs well, shows great tools, but is passed up, then anyone has the right to inquire why. Regarding blowout games in Joplin so far after 2 days, haven't the "experts" already determined the 2007 draft class will be offensively stacked, with great hitters?
WillieBobo says:
"Looking at the line scores, the selections aren't that wonderful. There have been games with five and six errors. Teams blown out by ten runs or more. "
Welcome to baseball. Didn't the CHISOX just score like 70 runs the past 6 games? I suppose the opposing MLB teams have the wrong players, or crummy pitchers on their rosters???????????
***********on a personal note, keep the train rollin!!
Mr Bobo appears to have an axe to grind with USA baseball based on his responses for this topic and past topics with the Jr Olympic Tournament selections.
Quote: They are picked by a selection committee.
As a former Babe Ruth League President, I can tell you that I received nomination forms in the mail to nominate players to participate in Tournament of Stars, so there is at least some input from the "grass roots" as it were. However, I would also note that there is very little representation on the Babe Ruth team from some of the hotbeds of Babe Ruth baseball.
People really shouldn't get bent out of shape about who is at the tournament and who isn't. Looking at the rosters, I have serious trouble believing that there is only one player in the entire state of Illinois that was worthy of being on one of these teams, or just one player from Kentucky (and I could go on naming states) There may, however, only have been one player from Illinois or one player from Kentucky with the connections to get on one of these teams.
As a former Babe Ruth League President, I can tell you that I received nomination forms in the mail to nominate players to participate in Tournament of Stars, so there is at least some input from the "grass roots" as it were. However, I would also note that there is very little representation on the Babe Ruth team from some of the hotbeds of Babe Ruth baseball.
People really shouldn't get bent out of shape about who is at the tournament and who isn't. Looking at the rosters, I have serious trouble believing that there is only one player in the entire state of Illinois that was worthy of being on one of these teams, or just one player from Kentucky (and I could go on naming states) There may, however, only have been one player from Illinois or one player from Kentucky with the connections to get on one of these teams.
The axe that I grind is with the selection process that limits the participants and is not a reasonable representation of the baseball talent of the nation.
For the years previous to the internet, the very existence of these teams was unknown to most people. The slection process was not widely known.
My main gripe is that the selection process does not allow the assembly of a team that can beat all comers, especially Cuba. Can you imagine an island nation of only 11 million people having more baseball talent than the entire USA.
For the years previous to the internet, the very existence of these teams was unknown to most people. The slection process was not widely known.
My main gripe is that the selection process does not allow the assembly of a team that can beat all comers, especially Cuba. Can you imagine an island nation of only 11 million people having more baseball talent than the entire USA.
Gentlemen,
No selection process is perfect. Yes there are probably many talented kids throughtout the country that have the talent that do not get the opportunity to be part of these programs. Part of the selection process is understanding how the selections are picked and putting your kid in the environment with the best chance of getting noticed. People need to do their research if they want to be in this postion. Those are the CONNECTIONS the Illinois kid has and nothing more except hard work with some god given talent. There is a lot of truth to the old saying, "being in the position at the right time."
No selection process is perfect. Yes there are probably many talented kids throughtout the country that have the talent that do not get the opportunity to be part of these programs. Part of the selection process is understanding how the selections are picked and putting your kid in the environment with the best chance of getting noticed. People need to do their research if they want to be in this postion. Those are the CONNECTIONS the Illinois kid has and nothing more except hard work with some god given talent. There is a lot of truth to the old saying, "being in the position at the right time."
I think that the point that someone else was making is that not everyone has the means to be doing that kind of research or to "put your kid in the environment to get noticed." The reality is that the kids there are quite talented, and there are kids who are not there who are just as talented. That is going to be true in all situations.
quote:haven't the "experts" already determined the 2007 draft class will be offensively stacked, with great hitters?
Actually the 07 class is one of the top pitching classes ever! The PG National last week was loaded with 90+ arms including a record number of pitchers who topped out at 94 or better. Personally I've never seen anything like it!
I'm sure that some of the attendees are conspicuous by their absence at the TOS.
Most notably I would think that Tampa Mike B. would have been a lock for the TOS. Must not have had good public relations people.
There is a ton more talented pitching out there that have been overlooked. I often wonder if this is because of the mindless method of eliminating players in general when comparing them to the average MLB player.
The greater number of high level prospects that are position players are all projected to not be MLB material at the positions at which they became major prospects. This is an admission that they are not the best players available at their positions.
At the level of TOS or other international play, it amazes me that the USA is not the dominant team. The current formula is not working in my view. Silver medals for the USA are not good enough with baseball being our national game.
Most notably I would think that Tampa Mike B. would have been a lock for the TOS. Must not have had good public relations people.
There is a ton more talented pitching out there that have been overlooked. I often wonder if this is because of the mindless method of eliminating players in general when comparing them to the average MLB player.
The greater number of high level prospects that are position players are all projected to not be MLB material at the positions at which they became major prospects. This is an admission that they are not the best players available at their positions.
At the level of TOS or other international play, it amazes me that the USA is not the dominant team. The current formula is not working in my view. Silver medals for the USA are not good enough with baseball being our national game.
wayback,
There are several players who do not attend the trials for various reasons. Some are good reasons, others not so good.
Willie,
It is quite obvious you have a dislike for the USA Program as well as the MLB draft.
The USA does not get EVERY top player in the United States. It’s easy to set back and be critical of everything. Why not look at how hard the job is, whether it’s scouting for the draft or choosing players to represent the USA or recruiting for college.
You mention the silver medal not being good enough. I’m sure the players, officials and coaches representing USA Baseball would agree. However, please understand what they are competing against.
The USA selects players from the Tournament of Stars. They work with them for a short period of time and then travel to play the other countries. The Cuban team is selected over a much longer period of time and has practiced and played together for years in some cases. We are an All Star team… They are a team that is used to playing and practicing with each other and the coaches are very familiar with each and every player. They are selecting players based on years of watching them.
That said… Team USA has an equal record to Cuba over the history of the tournament.
Here is a release copied from the USA site.
Comprised of the nation’s top players aged 18 years and younger, the USA Baseball Junior National Team is a perennial power on the international baseball scene. In the 21-year history of the IBAF Junior World Championship, the United States has captured a medal a record 20 times. The USA winnings include five gold medals, nine silver medals, and six bronze medals.
Here are some of the players who were selected first round and were on the Junior National Team since 2000. USA rosters also include many who were selected in the second round and others in the top 5 rounds. The list also includes several college stars who will become early round picks. Let’s talk about them rather than who they didn’t pick. By the way, 8 or 9 of those listed below have already played in the Big Leagues. I get tired of people whining in the back ground without doing a thing to improve the system.
Clayton Kershaw
Max Sapp
Adrian Cardenas
Andrew McCutchen
Brandon Snyder
Justin Upton
Daniel Bard
Matt Bush
Billy Butler
Eric Hurley
Neil Walker
Jeff Allison
Chad Billingsley
Ian Kennedy
Chris Lubanski
Lastings Milledge
Mike Rogers
Jarrod Saltalamacchia
Ian Stewart
Delmon Young
Jeff Francouer
Scott Kazmir
Mark McCormick
Sergio Santos
Jeremy Sowers
Denard Span
BJ Upton
Matt Whitney
Jeremy Bonderman
JJ Hardy
Joe Mauer
There are several players who do not attend the trials for various reasons. Some are good reasons, others not so good.
Willie,
It is quite obvious you have a dislike for the USA Program as well as the MLB draft.
The USA does not get EVERY top player in the United States. It’s easy to set back and be critical of everything. Why not look at how hard the job is, whether it’s scouting for the draft or choosing players to represent the USA or recruiting for college.
You mention the silver medal not being good enough. I’m sure the players, officials and coaches representing USA Baseball would agree. However, please understand what they are competing against.
The USA selects players from the Tournament of Stars. They work with them for a short period of time and then travel to play the other countries. The Cuban team is selected over a much longer period of time and has practiced and played together for years in some cases. We are an All Star team… They are a team that is used to playing and practicing with each other and the coaches are very familiar with each and every player. They are selecting players based on years of watching them.
That said… Team USA has an equal record to Cuba over the history of the tournament.
Here is a release copied from the USA site.
Comprised of the nation’s top players aged 18 years and younger, the USA Baseball Junior National Team is a perennial power on the international baseball scene. In the 21-year history of the IBAF Junior World Championship, the United States has captured a medal a record 20 times. The USA winnings include five gold medals, nine silver medals, and six bronze medals.
Here are some of the players who were selected first round and were on the Junior National Team since 2000. USA rosters also include many who were selected in the second round and others in the top 5 rounds. The list also includes several college stars who will become early round picks. Let’s talk about them rather than who they didn’t pick. By the way, 8 or 9 of those listed below have already played in the Big Leagues. I get tired of people whining in the back ground without doing a thing to improve the system.
Clayton Kershaw
Max Sapp
Adrian Cardenas
Andrew McCutchen
Brandon Snyder
Justin Upton
Daniel Bard
Matt Bush
Billy Butler
Eric Hurley
Neil Walker
Jeff Allison
Chad Billingsley
Ian Kennedy
Chris Lubanski
Lastings Milledge
Mike Rogers
Jarrod Saltalamacchia
Ian Stewart
Delmon Young
Jeff Francouer
Scott Kazmir
Mark McCormick
Sergio Santos
Jeremy Sowers
Denard Span
BJ Upton
Matt Whitney
Jeremy Bonderman
JJ Hardy
Joe Mauer
BOBO
What is your problem other than you seem offended by things that you cannot control---were you slighted by American Baseball people?
You make statements that are not valid except in your mind
What is your problem other than you seem offended by things that you cannot control---were you slighted by American Baseball people?
You make statements that are not valid except in your mind
quote:The greater number of high level prospects that are position players are all projected to not be MLB material at the positions at which they became major prospects. This is an admission that they are not the best players available at their positions.
Willie,
I'm confused by your opinion. What "admission"?
Please give me the names of those drafted (other than perhaps shortstops) who are projected to play a different position in Pro Ball. It does happen, but not to the greater number.
Look at the list I posted above and I could add many other young Major Leaguers. Francouer, Kazmir, Milledge, Billingsley, Mauer, Hardy, etc. are all playing the position they were drafted as. So is Brian McCann, Prince Fielder, Jeremy Hermida, Matt Murtin, David Wright, etc., etc.
Why is it that you seem to think you know more than those making their living working in baseball?
Just from Florida, you will see that the projection for position players outside of pitchers and outfielders are for the most part other than their regular positions.
http://www.baseballamerica.com/draftdb/2006state.php?st=FL
http://www.baseballamerica.com/draftdb/2006state.php?st=FL
My statements are obvious criticism of the game as it is being sold.
1) Pitchers cannot or do not stay ahead in the count and keep the ball in the park. The insistence on the 'blow it by em fast ball' has not worked and will not work unless the batter is of inferior talent.
2) Outfielders cannot make a strong enough throw to the plate on a fly ball to force a runner to exert himself in tagging from third base. The strong arm is the exception now rather than the rule.
3) Runners have exhibited poor base running ability for years. Most cannot slide well, giving way to the head first slide.
4) Batters cannot bunt or hit effectively in situational play (grounding to third with runners on first and/or second).
5) Defense is sacrificed in order to keep a potential home run hitter in the line up.
6) Players are moved to different positions again sacrificing defense.
The list can go on and on why I have lost interest in the product that the MLB is selling as professional baseball at premium prices.
As long as people continue to accept the inferior product, it will continue to be served to them.
On the issue of international play, five gold medals in twenty one years means nothing when one considers the level of competition. If the greatest competittion is Cuba, assemble a team to defeat Cuba. This is the only reason an organization such as USA Baseball has to exist.
As we have seen in World Cup play, people are not happy with the team sent out to represent this nation. Maybe those people will get better resuts because they do not delay in expressing their desire for a better product.
It will never make sense to me that I should accept an inferior product when a better product is available.
It seems that I am in the minority since most are expressing a view that they will continue to eat whatever is served.
1) Pitchers cannot or do not stay ahead in the count and keep the ball in the park. The insistence on the 'blow it by em fast ball' has not worked and will not work unless the batter is of inferior talent.
2) Outfielders cannot make a strong enough throw to the plate on a fly ball to force a runner to exert himself in tagging from third base. The strong arm is the exception now rather than the rule.
3) Runners have exhibited poor base running ability for years. Most cannot slide well, giving way to the head first slide.
4) Batters cannot bunt or hit effectively in situational play (grounding to third with runners on first and/or second).
5) Defense is sacrificed in order to keep a potential home run hitter in the line up.
6) Players are moved to different positions again sacrificing defense.
The list can go on and on why I have lost interest in the product that the MLB is selling as professional baseball at premium prices.
As long as people continue to accept the inferior product, it will continue to be served to them.
On the issue of international play, five gold medals in twenty one years means nothing when one considers the level of competition. If the greatest competittion is Cuba, assemble a team to defeat Cuba. This is the only reason an organization such as USA Baseball has to exist.
As we have seen in World Cup play, people are not happy with the team sent out to represent this nation. Maybe those people will get better resuts because they do not delay in expressing their desire for a better product.
It will never make sense to me that I should accept an inferior product when a better product is available.
It seems that I am in the minority since most are expressing a view that they will continue to eat whatever is served.
Bobo...since the system is "flawed" and not all the best players are selected, tell us what you'd recommend? Or better yet show everyone your team?
I have often made my program of developing a team to adequately represent the nation known.
The greater comedy is when I offer the present program to the board under anonymous auspices that it is trashed and criticized.
By looking at criticism of the current program, a better program can and should be established.
Unless of course, the people of the USA have no concern for the image of the nation in international competition.
The greater comedy is when I offer the present program to the board under anonymous auspices that it is trashed and criticized.
By looking at criticism of the current program, a better program can and should be established.
Unless of course, the people of the USA have no concern for the image of the nation in international competition.
quote:The list can go on and on why I have lost interest in the product that the MLB is selling as professional baseball at premium prices.
If you've lost interest... Why spend so much time degrading the game on this baseball site? You did mention you're a fan! Of what? You don't like International Baseball, you don't like Professional baseball. My guess is you don't like much of anything. That's really too bad!
By the way, the image of United States professional baseball must look pretty good to those other countries. Count the Cuban defectors who risk death to get a chance to play here!
What I do like is teaching good baseball.
I like teaching a player where he should be when he is either not fielding the ball or waiting to recieve a throw.
I like teaching good fundamental baseball.
I like catchers backing up first on a grounder to the infield and the bases empty.
I love international play. It exposes bad programs that exist. If the same organizations were in charge of all international play for this country, they would be extolling the joys of winning a second place medal to the Jamaican bob sled team's gold.
I love the game of baseball.
I dislike Daddy ball, favoritism, grudges and the lack of coaches in helping their players advance as citizens as well as ball players.
I like teaching a player where he should be when he is either not fielding the ball or waiting to recieve a throw.
I like teaching good fundamental baseball.
I like catchers backing up first on a grounder to the infield and the bases empty.
I love international play. It exposes bad programs that exist. If the same organizations were in charge of all international play for this country, they would be extolling the joys of winning a second place medal to the Jamaican bob sled team's gold.
I love the game of baseball.
I dislike Daddy ball, favoritism, grudges and the lack of coaches in helping their players advance as citizens as well as ball players.
Castro tells them to leave if they want. If they were really under such close scrutiny as they were years ago, they would have to seek assylum and all the usual political shenanigans.
Castro knows that allowing Cuban players to enter the major leagues just opens the flood gates for more US dollars to flow into his nation.
The real question that should be asked is why we aren't producing pitchers as good or better than the Cuban defectors.
The number of foreign players in the majors is ever increasing. The minors are already full of foreign players.
The talent level of the home grown ball player being disregarded for the foreign ball player is not a glaring warning to many.
I guess to them it is just a game.
Castro knows that allowing Cuban players to enter the major leagues just opens the flood gates for more US dollars to flow into his nation.
The real question that should be asked is why we aren't producing pitchers as good or better than the Cuban defectors.
The number of foreign players in the majors is ever increasing. The minors are already full of foreign players.
The talent level of the home grown ball player being disregarded for the foreign ball player is not a glaring warning to many.
I guess to them it is just a game.
I can see the the agenda---- cant you?
quote:Castro tells them to leave if they want.
That's a good one!
Was it Castro who didn't want the Cuban team in the World Championship Series?
NO.
Where will the Junior National Team be competing this year?
CUBA
You apparently have little knowledge of the real world that exists outside of baseball.
NO.
Where will the Junior National Team be competing this year?
CUBA
You apparently have little knowledge of the real world that exists outside of baseball.
Willie,
Of course Castro wanted his team in the World Championship! Why wouldn't he?
What difference does it make where the Junior National Team is playing? How does that pertain to this discussion? They move the tournament every year.
You might be right about me having little knowledge of the real world that exists outside of baseball. Baseball takes every minute I have. That includes being involved with several Cuban players over the years.
If you want to think everything's OK with Castro and Cuba... Go right ahead! Somehow I'm getting vibes that you think Castro is OK, but international and professional baseball is a problem.
Of course Castro wanted his team in the World Championship! Why wouldn't he?
What difference does it make where the Junior National Team is playing? How does that pertain to this discussion? They move the tournament every year.
You might be right about me having little knowledge of the real world that exists outside of baseball. Baseball takes every minute I have. That includes being involved with several Cuban players over the years.
If you want to think everything's OK with Castro and Cuba... Go right ahead! Somehow I'm getting vibes that you think Castro is OK, but international and professional baseball is a problem.
Castro is one little player in a big world.
With 27% of the major leagues and 45% of the minor leagues comprised of foreign players, I definitely see a problem with the baseball talent in this country and the way it is wasted.
With 27% of the major leagues and 45% of the minor leagues comprised of foreign players, I definitely see a problem with the baseball talent in this country and the way it is wasted.
BOBO
Outside of the ticket stubs you noted in another thread what is your background to be so critical other than perhaps you were cut and did not make the team of your choice ( perhaps you have no baseball talent- you know that happens)
I also take it you are of Cuban or similar heritage, don't matter to me,but since you bring Fidel up in your posts and appear to carry that huge cross of persecution I note it
I had one of those too because I am Italian----you they call it the Mafia synfrome---but I got rid of that cross a long time ago and came to very much appreciate the freedoms we have in this country and I don't cry about it
Bobo get with the program and stop the freaking whining--or are you that much of a loser
Outside of the ticket stubs you noted in another thread what is your background to be so critical other than perhaps you were cut and did not make the team of your choice ( perhaps you have no baseball talent- you know that happens)
I also take it you are of Cuban or similar heritage, don't matter to me,but since you bring Fidel up in your posts and appear to carry that huge cross of persecution I note it
I had one of those too because I am Italian----you they call it the Mafia synfrome---but I got rid of that cross a long time ago and came to very much appreciate the freedoms we have in this country and I don't cry about it
Bobo get with the program and stop the freaking whining--or are you that much of a loser
As usual your assumptions are 100% wrong.
I'm not whining. I'm making an issue of the fact that losing to Cuba in particular raises the stock of Cuban ball players above that of home grown talent.
As one who has an organization that deals with talented ball players, can you explain why foreign born players are dominating professional baseball?
Can you explain why the talented ball players that you see and are instructing are not equivalent to the foreign born ball player?
I'm not whining. I'm making an issue of the fact that losing to Cuba in particular raises the stock of Cuban ball players above that of home grown talent.
As one who has an organization that deals with talented ball players, can you explain why foreign born players are dominating professional baseball?
Can you explain why the talented ball players that you see and are instructing are not equivalent to the foreign born ball player?
WillieBobo
Until you answer the questions I have asked of you why should I answer yours?
What is your background?
Why do you have an axe to grind/
We all love baseball so what makes you different other than we work to help the kids and you whine and criticize---what are you doing to help the kids?
Answer the question and then maybe I can answer yours--I do not talk to cyberspace anomolies
Until you answer the questions I have asked of you why should I answer yours?
What is your background?
Why do you have an axe to grind/
We all love baseball so what makes you different other than we work to help the kids and you whine and criticize---what are you doing to help the kids?
Answer the question and then maybe I can answer yours--I do not talk to cyberspace anomolies
quote:Originally posted by WillieBobo:
can you explain why foreign born players are dominating professional baseball?
Sure - they are better - and they are cheaper.
Better - because they grow up hitting with wood.
Cheaper - because of basic geo-economic facts.
Not very hard to understand - nor is it hard to see.
The really sad thing is that you actually believe that.
Or maybe all of these organizations have come to that same realization and just concentrate on college recruiters.
I guess the next step will be to have the foreign players dominate the college scholarships as well.
Or maybe all of these organizations have come to that same realization and just concentrate on college recruiters.
I guess the next step will be to have the foreign players dominate the college scholarships as well.
Willie - dont get too depressed about it.
The sun will still shine tomorrow - I hope.
LOL
The sun will still shine tomorrow - I hope.
LOL
Not depressed a bit.
Not even depressed that so many Americans can accept such conditions and those who foster and promote them.
Just sad state of affairs that those who strive for national mediocrity are winning in their pirsuit,
Not even depressed that so many Americans can accept such conditions and those who foster and promote them.
Just sad state of affairs that those who strive for national mediocrity are winning in their pirsuit,
BOBO
You still have not answered my questions
Is it because you cannot!
You still have not answered my questions
Is it because you cannot!
quote:Originally posted by WillieBobo:
Not depressed a bit.
Not even depressed that so many Americans can accept such conditions and those who foster and promote them.
Just sad state of affairs that those who strive for national mediocrity are winning in their pirsuit,
I have no idea - at this point - what you are talking about.
I will say - that dealing with reality - the current reality - is the first step towards being comprehensible. IMO.
TR,
You do not dispute what I say, you just dispute that I am qualified to say them. I don't give out my credentials. There is no one on here that important for me to give them.
ITS,
I would think that you choose not to see the obvious.
You do not dispute what I say, you just dispute that I am qualified to say them. I don't give out my credentials. There is no one on here that important for me to give them.
ITS,
I would think that you choose not to see the obvious.
Willie - you are free to think whatever you want.
Your assessment of the state of the game is vastly different from mine.
And life goes on.
LOL
Your assessment of the state of the game is vastly different from mine.
And life goes on.
LOL
quote:Originally posted by OLDSLUGGER8:
There are boatloads of major D1 college coaches and MLB scouts in Joplin for a reason. Most of these kids will be getting the 7/1 phone calls from these coaches, and they are there to really take in how their recruits perform.
Each kid there has an opportunity to climb the ranks with MLB, and to solidify colleges true interest levels.
WHO CARES ABOUT CUBA?
***********on a personal note, keep the train rollin!!
BOBO
If you feel that way you can continue to spew your dirt
I for one think you are a scam just looking for attention in cyberspace--but be careful--there are many our there in cyberspace who are better than youa re at what you are trying to do
I look at it this way:if you are not man enough to let us know who and what you are then why listen to you especially with your quite pithy retort
If you feel that way you can continue to spew your dirt
I for one think you are a scam just looking for attention in cyberspace--but be careful--there are many our there in cyberspace who are better than youa re at what you are trying to do
I look at it this way:if you are not man enough to let us know who and what you are then why listen to you especially with your quite pithy retort
It seems that you've really lost it.
I have been standing up for the Youth of this nation, The fact is that adequate effort is not put into forming teams that would truly represent the talent of the nation in international play.
The domino effect has been that MLB has 27% foreign born players and the minors 45% foreign born players.
If you call this dirt then so be it.
If you have resigned yourself that this is the way it is and the way that it will be, you condemn the Youth of this nation as poor ball players.
If you are in agreement with the theory that foreign born players are inherently better ball players, then you condemn the Youth of this nation to go for the scraps. The college scholarships in this way of thinking is the most they can hope for until the foreign born players take them away as well.
Is it I spewing dirt against the Youth of the nation? i think not.
I have been standing up for the Youth of this nation, The fact is that adequate effort is not put into forming teams that would truly represent the talent of the nation in international play.
The domino effect has been that MLB has 27% foreign born players and the minors 45% foreign born players.
If you call this dirt then so be it.
If you have resigned yourself that this is the way it is and the way that it will be, you condemn the Youth of this nation as poor ball players.
If you are in agreement with the theory that foreign born players are inherently better ball players, then you condemn the Youth of this nation to go for the scraps. The college scholarships in this way of thinking is the most they can hope for until the foreign born players take them away as well.
Is it I spewing dirt against the Youth of the nation? i think not.