Since most of you seem to be very knowledgable about the game, I figured I'd ask you.I've been playing baseball my entire lifeand I have dreams to continue to play as long as I can.
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Baseballrulz
What have you done to help yourself?
What showcases have you attended?
What summer/fall teams have you played for?
What have you sent colleges regarding you?
I am well aware of the talent in New Hampshire as are college coaches in the region and elsewhere---have you made people aware?
BTW 5-11 /150 is not a very small player
What have you done to help yourself?
What showcases have you attended?
What summer/fall teams have you played for?
What have you sent colleges regarding you?
I am well aware of the talent in New Hampshire as are college coaches in the region and elsewhere---have you made people aware?
BTW 5-11 /150 is not a very small player
Keep working out to build your body. Be careful you're not bulking up in a way that will hurt your baseball skills. Keep refining your baseball skills. Find the best D3 program you're capable of playing at. Then have the college coach find the best possible summer program he believes you can compete. If he gets you in the NECBL you'll get exposure to scouts.
You haven't mentioned foot speed and arm strength.
You haven't mentioned foot speed and arm strength.
Noone can answer your question but unless you get active and search out some schools you ave almost a zero chance.
You should have been working on this last year. There is nothing wrong with being 5'11. That is 6' with spikes right ?
You should get on the net and find some schools you would like and get some emails etc off to them. Be positive and let them tell you wether you have a shot or not. Don't sell yourself short. If you do no one will be interested..
You should have been working on this last year. There is nothing wrong with being 5'11. That is 6' with spikes right ?
You should get on the net and find some schools you would like and get some emails etc off to them. Be positive and let them tell you wether you have a shot or not. Don't sell yourself short. If you do no one will be interested..
Interesting that he cannot answer the questions
quote:I havent got a look from any scouts
You last statment seems contradictory.
I think TRhit was specifically referring to your 60 speed, which you have not posted. Have you been clocked from the outfield/mound (if you pitch)? Also I was in a very similar position. One way like bobblehead said is to send e-mails also filling out questionaires never hurts.
quote:by bbrlz: I havent got a look from any scouts not even division 3 schools ... main question I guess is what is the likelihood of me playing college baseball(any division) ... from there do I have any shot at being drafted,
1) "likelihood of me playing college baseball?" - - very unlikely
2) "do I have any shot at being drafted" - - nope
pick a good college & get a good job
BobbleheadDoll, how is my statement contradictory?
quote:I've only contacted a few via email and I'm waiting to gather all my information until I respond back to them and set up a meeting.
Could be wrong but it seems you have had some dialog with coaches.
I disagree with Bee -- at least regarding your likelihood of playing college baseball at some level. I think you have a couple of things working against you:
* You are probably a late bloomer, at least with regard to your weight. This seems to be an automatic turnoff with many college coaches -- BUT NOT WITH ALL!!
* You have not been very proactive in contacting college programs.
Now is the time to get busy! Put together a list of, say, your top 10 college choices at the D2, D3, and NAIA level. At this point, don't bother with D1 schools, as many have already wrapped up the bulk of their recruiting. Get on the phone and call the recruiting coordinators of these schools and express your interest in their program. Sell them on your strengths and see if you can gauge their interest in you. If they seem interested, keep following up and schedule an unofficial visit at their campus. If they don't seem interested, ask them if they know of other schools with a need for an '08 outfielder.
If you are willing to attend a junior college next year, do the same with JUCO's you are interested in.
Best wishes as you look for a place to play. Please let us know how your search goes!
* You are probably a late bloomer, at least with regard to your weight. This seems to be an automatic turnoff with many college coaches -- BUT NOT WITH ALL!!
* You have not been very proactive in contacting college programs.
Now is the time to get busy! Put together a list of, say, your top 10 college choices at the D2, D3, and NAIA level. At this point, don't bother with D1 schools, as many have already wrapped up the bulk of their recruiting. Get on the phone and call the recruiting coordinators of these schools and express your interest in their program. Sell them on your strengths and see if you can gauge their interest in you. If they seem interested, keep following up and schedule an unofficial visit at their campus. If they don't seem interested, ask them if they know of other schools with a need for an '08 outfielder.
If you are willing to attend a junior college next year, do the same with JUCO's you are interested in.
Best wishes as you look for a place to play. Please let us know how your search goes!
You seem a little hard on yourself. We don't get much exposure to college or pro scouts anymore either. We didn't go to showcases. We had to search out schools and privide video that would get us an offer without the coach ever seeing my son in person. We created the interest.
Infield08 spells it out pretty well.
Infield08 spells it out pretty well.
B'Rulz ...
What are your GPA and SAT scores?
What are your GPA and SAT scores?
are you a politician?quote:by if08: I disagree with Bee -- at least regarding your likelihood of playing college baseball at some level.
the odds of GOOD hs players going to the next level is very small ...
the odds of VERY GOOD players getting drafted is also very small ...
the outlook for a hs sr who has NOT been noticed by any-body thru-out his career AND throws guys out (sometimes) on 2 hops is dismal at best (there was a GM that drafted his daughter, so all is not lost)
if you were college material "THEY " would have found you ..and theres a lot of truth in that statement,,,sure you can try showcases and things like that but if you were really that high caliber you would have been noticed by now...
Bee> what ? The fish aren't biting ?
I have seen lots of good ball players slip though the cracks.
I would get active and prove Bee> wrong.
I would get active and prove Bee> wrong.
we just got 6" of lake effect ... how come it never goes north?
btw, I'd be happy to be proved wrong, but as of 22:19 GMT/1/2/08 my response is pretty good
btw, I'd be happy to be proved wrong, but as of 22:19 GMT/1/2/08 my response is pretty good
I'm not so sure I subscribe to the, "if you can do it, they will find you" camp. Someone, somewhere, needs to get up off their butts and promote the player, whether it's the coach, the player, or the players parents.
True example...
Junior year, pitcher 6-1, less than 1 ERA, HS coach sends two other pitchers to bigtime invite only showcase. HS coach then convinces Legion coach to cut pitcher at tryouts so pitcher will play in HS summer ball league for the HS coach. Goes 8-1 less than 1 ERA. Going into senior year, no one knows this kid...throwing 90.
The kids parents knew zero about the recruiting process, but eventually got some advice and helped the kid get some attention.
Kid is now a weekend D-1 starter as a Freshman.
All it takes is a non helping coach and a bit of ignorance and a kid slips through the cracks. Seen it happen.
True example...
Junior year, pitcher 6-1, less than 1 ERA, HS coach sends two other pitchers to bigtime invite only showcase. HS coach then convinces Legion coach to cut pitcher at tryouts so pitcher will play in HS summer ball league for the HS coach. Goes 8-1 less than 1 ERA. Going into senior year, no one knows this kid...throwing 90.
The kids parents knew zero about the recruiting process, but eventually got some advice and helped the kid get some attention.
Kid is now a weekend D-1 starter as a Freshman.
All it takes is a non helping coach and a bit of ignorance and a kid slips through the cracks. Seen it happen.
Baseballrulz,
Has your Legion ball coach given you any advice or helped you out by getting your name out there?
Has your Legion ball coach given you any advice or helped you out by getting your name out there?
CplZ, as we type they are doing just that ...quote:Someone, somewhere, needs to get up off their butts and promote the player,
AND, their players are all conference/all county/all state guys
by CplZ:
"for example - Jr pitcher 6-1, less than 1 era .. has success" - hey now - we have a ... sr OF 5'9", throws guys out on 2 hops (sometimes)
We didn't have any of that either. Scouts rarely come to our tournaments the last few years. Never had a college coach at at game except a coupl Canadian coaches.
A few years before my son went to college there were 25-50 scouts at his elite tournaments The last few years there were none.
We have to go to pro camps to get interest. A few years ago there was a pitcher who spent a couple years at a JC. He came back to a local U and had no interest. He was throwing 92. Didn't even do well in the U BB. He went to a camp and was signed the next day. He was over looked as well. you have to get in front of the right people. That concept if you are good they will find you is not accurate. They may find most but not all.
Your marks are great so you have to find a school that is willing to work with you. Waiting for them to find you ia wrong. It is often hard for a position player to get noticed. Luck timing can play a lot in getting noticed.
I suggest you get busy.
Bee> that is a wopping 15 centimeters. Almost buried alive.
A few years before my son went to college there were 25-50 scouts at his elite tournaments The last few years there were none.
We have to go to pro camps to get interest. A few years ago there was a pitcher who spent a couple years at a JC. He came back to a local U and had no interest. He was throwing 92. Didn't even do well in the U BB. He went to a camp and was signed the next day. He was over looked as well. you have to get in front of the right people. That concept if you are good they will find you is not accurate. They may find most but not all.
Your marks are great so you have to find a school that is willing to work with you. Waiting for them to find you ia wrong. It is often hard for a position player to get noticed. Luck timing can play a lot in getting noticed.
I suggest you get busy.
Bee> that is a wopping 15 centimeters. Almost buried alive.
Bee, have you ever had dreams and aspirations in life? It's obvious that you're one of those people who never has put in the time and effort to fulfill something that you've wanted to achieve.. No?
A quick question for you Bee... Could you look me in the eye and tell me that Tom Brady, a football player who was a decent hs quarterback, who was not that big or fast would go on to play for Michigan and then get drafted by the Patriots and is now arguably the best quarterback of all time...didn't think so.
It's all about putting your heart into the game you love.
A quick question for you Bee... Could you look me in the eye and tell me that Tom Brady, a football player who was a decent hs quarterback, who was not that big or fast would go on to play for Michigan and then get drafted by the Patriots and is now arguably the best quarterback of all time...didn't think so.
It's all about putting your heart into the game you love.
gee, I had it at 152.5 mmquote:Bee> that is a wopping 15 centimeters. Almost buried alive
I didn't want to make it look worse than it was.
They be calling out the National guard.
They be calling out the National guard.
could you explain how you're talking "next level/pro" when YOU put everything ya had into baseball and nobody anywhere ever even noticed?quote:by bbrlz: Bee... Could you look me in the eye and tell me that Tom Brady, a football player who was a decent hs quarterback, who was not that big or fast would go on to play for Michigan and then get drafted by the Patriots and is now arguably the best quarterback of all time...didn't think so.
BaseballRulz1789 -
One thing I might suggest is to get in touch directly with TRHit. He is very knowledgable about baseball in New England and seems to be supportive of those trying to play at a higher level. But - be prepared - he may tell you some things that you might not want to hear.
As for your chances of playing in college or getting drafted...who knows at this point? You haven't given us much to go on, which is why I would recommend a heart to heart with TRhit.
Good luck!
One thing I might suggest is to get in touch directly with TRHit. He is very knowledgable about baseball in New England and seems to be supportive of those trying to play at a higher level. But - be prepared - he may tell you some things that you might not want to hear.
As for your chances of playing in college or getting drafted...who knows at this point? You haven't given us much to go on, which is why I would recommend a heart to heart with TRhit.
Good luck!
gee, scouts and coaches are looking at & comparing the TOP/BEST 5% of kids your age - -quote:my physical appearance isn't up to par with half of the kids my age.
your self described impression against the others competing for next level spots against you isn't too favorable??
I wouldn't worry so much about your physical size at this point. Yes...continue to work and get bigger and stronger, but you are what you are - at least to this point.
If you have good skills, these will show through. You need to gain exposure and show folks what you can do. That is why I think getting an objective opinion on your current (and projectable) capabilities is important. THhit can help there. He seems pretty plugged in when it comes to NE baseball.
If you have good skills, these will show through. You need to gain exposure and show folks what you can do. That is why I think getting an objective opinion on your current (and projectable) capabilities is important. THhit can help there. He seems pretty plugged in when it comes to NE baseball.
Well Bee, I hate to break it to you, but what scouts look for is pure potential. High School competition in no way comes close to college competition, so most of the time they base their decisions strictly on potential. That being said, you have a player (me) who is 5'11 and just cracks 150 and a 5'11-6' player who is close to 190-200, they both have the same amount of talent, who are you more confident with?
BaseballRulz, pay no attention to the naysayers. You won't know the answers to your own questions until you exhaust all your options. Do what the positive posters have advised on this thread and see where it gets you. I wish you only the best!
you have aleady informed us that tho they had planty of time, they didn't find it in YOUquote:by bbrlz: Bee, I hate to break it to you, but what scouts look for is pure potential
I'm not making the decisions, but from my experience you're in trouble, except where there is a keg at 3Bquote:by bbrlz: That being said, you have a player (me) who is 5'11 and just cracks 150 and a 5'11-6' player who is close to 190-200, they both have the same amount of talent, who are you more confident with?
pick a great school & find a good job
there are also jobs on the lobster boats
Be careful about getting your mind made up that you are too small. Coaches are looking for players that can help them win. There are many factors that go into how they view prospective players. Coach May, in another thread, gave a great comment on how two different coaches can view a particular player in dramatically different ways....depending upon their team's needs and the type of player that they like to have on their team.
Don't worry abbut your physical size too much. If you can help a coach win, they will be interested. Be ready for - and get - some honest and objective opinions about your abilities. Then, contact the coaches at schools that seem to be a "fit" where players of similar abilities have been successful. Keep in mind that you are also going to a college to get an education...so, choose a school/course of study that you would want to be in if there were no baseball.
Also,if you found your way to this site, then you are also knowledgable enough to know that there is certain objective criteria (velocity, 60 yd time, etc.) where you can judge your ability to compete. These are not the "end all" in determining whether you can play at the next level, but they are indicators. How do you measure up in these areas? You seem to having some success in high school - how competitive is the level of play? Beyond your on the field skills, there is also the issue of "makeup" - what is yours? And, who would verify that?
You need to seek out knowledgable baseball people in your area and seek their advice. For this reason, I recommended contacting TRhit. If not him, find someone else who is knowledgable and can give you some good, honest feedback.
Then, finally, contact the coaches of the schools that you are interested in. Let them know of your interest. Don't wait for them to find you...find them. Coming onto this site and asking for advice was a great first step. Now, keep going.
Again, good luck!
Don't worry abbut your physical size too much. If you can help a coach win, they will be interested. Be ready for - and get - some honest and objective opinions about your abilities. Then, contact the coaches at schools that seem to be a "fit" where players of similar abilities have been successful. Keep in mind that you are also going to a college to get an education...so, choose a school/course of study that you would want to be in if there were no baseball.
Also,if you found your way to this site, then you are also knowledgable enough to know that there is certain objective criteria (velocity, 60 yd time, etc.) where you can judge your ability to compete. These are not the "end all" in determining whether you can play at the next level, but they are indicators. How do you measure up in these areas? You seem to having some success in high school - how competitive is the level of play? Beyond your on the field skills, there is also the issue of "makeup" - what is yours? And, who would verify that?
You need to seek out knowledgable baseball people in your area and seek their advice. For this reason, I recommended contacting TRhit. If not him, find someone else who is knowledgable and can give you some good, honest feedback.
Then, finally, contact the coaches of the schools that you are interested in. Let them know of your interest. Don't wait for them to find you...find them. Coming onto this site and asking for advice was a great first step. Now, keep going.
Again, good luck!
hey, there are many DIIIs that will issue a jv-uni if you drop the $44K tuition check off
Bee, there is no need for all the negativity.
quote:Originally posted by Bee>:are you a politician?quote:by if08: I disagree with Bee -- at least regarding your likelihood of playing college baseball at some level.
the odds of GOOD hs players going to the next level is very small ...
the odds of VERY GOOD players getting drafted is also very small ...
the outlook for a hs sr who has NOT been noticed by any-body thru-out his career AND throws guys out (sometimes) on 2 hops is dismal at best (there was a GM that drafted his daughter, so all is not lost)
"odds" infers some sort of game of chance. There is little, if any, luck involved in the process.
Bee is correct though. The likelihood of playing at the next level(s)without any interest from the next level(s) is remote, at best.
How bad do you want to play in college? If you have no limitations then there is no problem. Many of the D-3 and JUCO programs here in NC have JV teams. Ive had several players that could not start for us go on to play JV college baseball. After a year or two several went on to actually play varsity and some have been main contributers. Its all a matter of how bad you want to do it and if you have any limitations you put on the situation.
Your size is meaningless. The fact is most hs players are under 6'0 and weight about what you do. If you have some talent and a big desire to play in college there is a place for you. It might be on a JV team for a couple of years. You might never make it off the JV team who knows. Thats up to you. Contact Methodist College a D-3 program in NC. NC Wesleyan in NC another D-3 program. Guilford College or Greensboro College both D-3 programs in NC.
I have a player at Methodist that was a very average HS catcher. But he was a tremendous kid with a bigtime work ethic. He loved the game and wanted to play in college regardless of the situation. He is now the assistant coach of the JV program. Get on the phone. Get on the emails.
There are numerous JUCO's here in NC that have JV teams. If you wait for someone to call you , you will be waiting 10 years from now for that call that will never come. Get busy if your serious. There is a place for every kid that truly wants to play in college. You just have to get out there and find it. PM me if your interested in any programs in NC. Drive your butt down here and I will evaluate you. I will then make some calls for you. Or call TR and see what he can do for you.
How bad do you really want to play? That is the real question. Your HT and WT mean nothing.
Your size is meaningless. The fact is most hs players are under 6'0 and weight about what you do. If you have some talent and a big desire to play in college there is a place for you. It might be on a JV team for a couple of years. You might never make it off the JV team who knows. Thats up to you. Contact Methodist College a D-3 program in NC. NC Wesleyan in NC another D-3 program. Guilford College or Greensboro College both D-3 programs in NC.
I have a player at Methodist that was a very average HS catcher. But he was a tremendous kid with a bigtime work ethic. He loved the game and wanted to play in college regardless of the situation. He is now the assistant coach of the JV program. Get on the phone. Get on the emails.
There are numerous JUCO's here in NC that have JV teams. If you wait for someone to call you , you will be waiting 10 years from now for that call that will never come. Get busy if your serious. There is a place for every kid that truly wants to play in college. You just have to get out there and find it. PM me if your interested in any programs in NC. Drive your butt down here and I will evaluate you. I will then make some calls for you. Or call TR and see what he can do for you.
How bad do you really want to play? That is the real question. Your HT and WT mean nothing.
quote:Originally posted by BaseballRulz1789:
Bee, have you ever had dreams and aspirations in life? It's obvious that you're one of those people who never has put in the time and effort to fulfill something that you've wanted to achieve.. No?
A quick question for you Bee... Could you look me in the eye and tell me that Tom Brady, a football player who was a decent hs quarterback, who was not that big or fast would go on to play for Michigan and then get drafted by the Patriots and is now arguably the best quarterback of all time...didn't think so.
It's all about putting your heart into the game you love.
Tom Brady was overlooked however his father put together recruiting videos and sent them off to schools and that is when interest peaked. Who knows where he would be today if he waited for them to find him.
If you really want to play ball beyond HS learn from what happened to Tom Brady, do not sit around waiting for someone to find you. In the recruting process, it is just NOT all about putting your heart into the game.
Instead of arguing with Bee, who knows what you have to do because he has a son who has been there and done that, get the ball rolling. If you need help, go to your parents and your coaches or take up Coach May's offer and stop making excuses, if you want it as bad as you say get someone to evaluate your potential, you know now that you can't just sit around and be discovered, so do something productive about it.
IF08 - - my daughter wants a "beemer" (BMW) but she has a Ford Escort (used) budget -quote:by IF08: Bee, there is no need for all the negativity
your pos vibes are appreciated
(btw, she wants it NOW - - she's worked hard & feels she's owed the opportunity to have it and pay (prolly/maybe) for it ... can you co-sign??
Wow, is Bee always that cynical?
BaseballRulz1789,
Like Coach May said, there is an opportunity for nearly everyone who wants it bad enough. If you are only 150 lbs and have been on a legitimate weight lifting program, it is time to consult a sports nutritionist. If you want your muscles to grow, you need to support growth with proper nutrition (NOT illegal supplements).
Proper nutrition was critical in my son's physical development. After a very disciplined workout and nutritional regiment, he is now a D1 signee and legitimate pro prospect. He's always been a great athlete, but his relentless pursuit of his goals is what got him there. It took him two years of disciplined training and nutrition (doing it the right way) to get where he needed to be. The question for most people is, how bad do you want it? In my son's case, it has been an obsession. Very very few players will discipline themselves and work so hard and relentlessly toward a goal. This is what separates the men from the boys.
By all means, pursue your dream. However, realize how much you need to put into it. If you really really really want it, do what it takes to get there.
BaseballRulz1789,
Like Coach May said, there is an opportunity for nearly everyone who wants it bad enough. If you are only 150 lbs and have been on a legitimate weight lifting program, it is time to consult a sports nutritionist. If you want your muscles to grow, you need to support growth with proper nutrition (NOT illegal supplements).
Proper nutrition was critical in my son's physical development. After a very disciplined workout and nutritional regiment, he is now a D1 signee and legitimate pro prospect. He's always been a great athlete, but his relentless pursuit of his goals is what got him there. It took him two years of disciplined training and nutrition (doing it the right way) to get where he needed to be. The question for most people is, how bad do you want it? In my son's case, it has been an obsession. Very very few players will discipline themselves and work so hard and relentlessly toward a goal. This is what separates the men from the boys.
By all means, pursue your dream. However, realize how much you need to put into it. If you really really really want it, do what it takes to get there.