What pitchers on your staff have been clocked at 90+?

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Originally posted by kirk:


Ken,

Nice to have you back. Rain has slowed the board up a little, but I am sure you will get it going.

Come by and see us.

I need to come by and say hello to you boys.

I'll be around these parts more. I've been busy but this place needs a good pot stirrin'.

Thinkin' about makin' a come back.......

Would be weird coaching against DBAT but I've got something in the works I think.

You boys better get ready.

I just dont see why everyone loves to hate DBAT...wait yes i do, its Ken Guthrie.

By the way, i bet your parents are pretty proud of the character their son displays. Jerk!

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Originally posted by TTU:
I just dont see why everyone loves to hate DBAT...wait yes i do, its Ken Guthrie.

Just like the Yankees......everyone hates the winners.

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By the way, i bet your parents are pretty proud of the character their son displays. Jerk!

That's greatness.

You folks are too easy.

I must go now..........

I'll be back around summer ball time to stir it up some more..........

Say hello to the scouts and best wishes on all those full rides.

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Originally posted by T-Ball:
You are already proving to be "human" and your once clear non-parental glasses are starting to tint ever so slightly rose. The tell tail sign of this is your recent posting of your picture of young Gage. Why would you assume we want to see his (very cute) picture? You are obviously very proud and love him very much.

Trust me, I wasn't posting that picture for the parents of this board.

Listen, there are a bunch of scouts on this site. They lurk from the hollows and find out the skinny on all the blue chippers.

I just knew that if I posted a pic that would get us in the Top 100 players list. This way, he's a shoe in for a full ride or a big time signing bonus.

Anyhow.......I'll let you all have your fun now.



...........but I'll be back.

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Just like the Yankees......everyone hates the winners.

They havent been winners since 2000.


P.S. "Here's your **** ball, redneck"

KG - Are you implying that you will be coaching a team and you will be dealing with parents? Good Luck with that.

Back to the list -

Lackie
Lee
Merck (who was on the gun?)

Any others with confirmation (i.e., not dad's gun)? Kelly? Blum?

11dad and others - Anyone close at your school?

TB -- no one in the 90's at Plano East. One of our kids was 89 on Austin Baker's JUGGS during the scrimmage season.

If anyone out there that throws 90 is interested in playing for Plano East, beginning in 15 days, and qualifies for the school's IB program, please send me a PM.

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Originally posted by tigerbalm:

Merck (who was on the gun?)

Phillies Scout.

Forney has two. Woodruff (93 or so) and Blackmon (90-91).

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Originally posted by KellerDad:

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Originally posted by tigerbalm:

Merck (who was on the gun?)

Phillies Scout.

There were two scouts (might have been Phillies) at the Keller/Northwest game last week and Merck hit 91 at least 3-4 times (we had a dad sitting over the scout's shoulder )

Matt Thompson(Grace Prep/TCU) was 91-93 on several guns last night vs Liberty Christian. FYI- He also has a great hook.

Duncan McAlpine (Jr. Birdville) was consistently 87-89 touching 90,91 several times last night,

Davenport (Paschal) was touching 90 during last summer (impressive) I saw him early this year was not in form yet!

Dispelling rumors...

Brendan Alvey (Fossil Ridge LHP) consistently 83-85 touches 87 occassionally

Chase Putnam (fossil Ridge Jr.) consistently 86-88 touches 90 occassionally

Taylor Gerhart (Saginaw) consistently 86-88 touches 90 occassionally (inside prep had him 87-91 last year???)





List of pitchers I would like to hear about!

Davenport
Kelly ???
Perterson
Mulkey
Thompson (OK)

Curtis Petersen (Sr-Denton Ryan) was 88-90 last year. I haven't seen any reading this year but with all the scouts that have been at his games you would think someone would have.

I'd bet Curtis Petersen has touched 90 a time or two. NorTex, I highly doubt Miles Mulkey is at 90. He had an arm procedure over this past offseason and I've heard that he's taking it slow to progress for his career down in San Marcos (Great kid who'll do well in college, by the way).

Jordan Swagerty certainly has to be closing in on bumping 90. What about Perlman at HP?

What about VerHagen at Heath? In terms of '09 kids, I've heard from someone very close to the Newman Smith program that Tyler Mapes is closing in on 90 . People say the McAlpine kid at Birdville is a legitimate high 80's guy.

3 sophomores certainly have to be close in Zach Lee, Shane Henderson, and Andrew Blum.

Swagerty was throwing 90 last year. Heck, he hit 88 in the fall of his JR year at a PG event after catching an inning or two.

So confirmation on :

Kelly (per PG)
Lackie (confirmed by many scouts)
Lee (confirmed by many scouts)
Merck (gunned by Phillies scout)
Swagerty (several agree ?? PG confirmation)
Thompson (several scouts)
Woodruff (anyone agree?)

Nortex - by what confirmation is your list?
Dillon - what do you mean close, read the entire post, Lee is there. Curious about Blum and Henderson?

Anyone want to add thoughts on Verhagen? Kelly? etc

Anyone appreciate the alphabetizing?

From PG's evaluation of Swagerty

Top 2-way talent. Polished pitcher, great feel, heavy low 90's FB, nasty CB with exel depth, plus change, just dominates hitters with entire package

Walker Kelly:

Multi-part high energy delivery, very deceptive, plus quick arm, pounds zone with 91-93 live FB. Sharp 73 mph CB with wrap in back

I'm sure the other kids are listed....take the time, they have a very easy search tool.

I knew about Jordon's PG velocity because I was there in Hotlanta.

KD - just making my own list of pitcher's I want to see. Searching is too much work. I will add to my list above.

several scouts on several occasions , and asst. coach has the gun on every pitcher...

Kelly was obviously throwing well into the 90's last year....like to hear about this year...Ive heard (AKA rumors) a lot of info on kelly from fairly good sources... would like to have confirmation...

tigerbalm...i haven't learned the alphabet yet so how could i appreciate it

My guess is....if anyone at HP is touching 90, it's Hainsfurther. No confirmation. Their other guys are probably mid-80s.

PD...Hainsfurther can definitely toss some BB's ...Perlman wasn't close last year when i saw him. doesn't mean he isn't now.

How about that Emens kid and Roberson???

The East guys cruise in the upper 70's.

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The East guys cruise in the upper 70's.

You know how the rumors are!

Whats the thrill in a pitcher hitting 90 every now and then? If they are pitching at 86-87 and getting outs that is more important. Blake Bevins, Brandon Workman, Jordan Walden, Clay Kershaw, Chase Reid pitched at 90+. I don't see that in anyones response; just some pitchers hitting 90+ once or twice during the game.

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Originally posted by tigerbalm:
Woodruff (anyone agree?)

Woodruff was clocked at 90+ every week he pitched in the Metro Scout League back in the fall. Those results were posted here on the board.

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Originally posted by SWAC:
Whats the thrill in a pitcher hitting 90 every now and then? If they are pitching at 86-87 and getting outs that is more important.

My son has been hurt by this. He was told back in a scrimmage against Allen that he hit 92 and was averaging 88-89. This got around to a couple of colleges and they have come out to see him pitch only to find out he's actually a mid 80's guy. It doesn't matter to them that he "gets people out" by hitting his spots and letting his defense work. They just want to see 90 on the gun. It's very frustrating. No one wants a pitcher that can pitch. They want a guy who throws 90 so they can teach him to pitch. That's reality.

Ringer1,
The college ranks from D1 on down are loaded with kids that can't hit 90 but know how to pitch. If the colleges think your son has the talent to get people out at the college level there is a place for him plain and simple. If they don't then they don't.

If a rumor of him hitting 90 gets a college out to see him that normally wouldn't have shown up otherwise, surely that can't be all bad. Guys like Beavan, Workman, Reid, Green, Walden etc. stick out because they can not only throw 90 plus but can get you out with their other stuff.

From a good hitters perspective I can tell you that hitting a 90 mph fastball is easy. The other stuff is what gets you out. Colleges are aware of this.

iluvgoodbaseball-
It's your kind of posts that keep me coming back to the message board! Thanks for the insight.

Do you know anything about Coach Rav at Dallas U and who used to coach with the Dallas Dragons? We're looking for someone to work with our 15 yr old who pitches.

3and2,
I am not familiar with coach Rav. I have no personal experience with pitching lessons but have heard that there are a couple of good instructors at DBAT and have heard Jack Geise(not sure about spelling) and Linty Ingram are very good. Maybe someone else can help you out.

3 + 2

There are 3 guys at Frozen Ropes ( McKinney) that specialize in pitching. Danny Florence ( owner) Jack Briscoe (played for the Oakland A'S) and Ryan Dittworth.

All are excellent.

I know that 3A ball doesn't count here...but we saw a kid from Sanger, Cole Stephens, pitch last Friday against Decatur. He was only throwing low 80s according to the gun, but he struck out 15 and allowed only 1 hit. He turned down Navarro, Kansas and Texas State. The word is that he has a juco full ride and still has lots of lookers...thanks to a nasty breaking ball.

Five -- reports on 3A are welcome here -- he "turned down" a Big 12 school, a Texas D1, and one of the best JUCO programs in the state, all with respected pitching coaches? Ummm, ok. If he's low 80s, even with the best duece known to man, he might consider jumping all over offers like these.....even without knowing the details. JMO.

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Originally posted by Ringer1:
My son has been hurt by this. He was told back in a scrimmage against Allen that he hit 92 and was averaging 88-89. This got around to a couple of colleges and they have come out to see him pitch only to find out he's actually a mid 80's guy. It doesn't matter to them that he "gets people out" by hitting his spots and letting his defense work. They just want to see 90 on the gun. It's very frustrating. No one wants a pitcher that can pitch. They want a guy who throws 90 so they can teach him to pitch. That's reality.

Ringer1 thats an interesting statement. We've had several pitchers that did not hit 90 on a continious basis and all received D1 scholarships. I don't recall Shawn Tolleson was a 90s guy in high school but he is now. Look at Stayton Thomas and Cole Green at Texas. Both are 88-89 guys in high school but they know how to pitch and get outs. I guess its a matter of perspective.

A question....how did the colleges hear that he was throwing 88-89, hitting 92? All a kid can do when he gets an "audition" is give it his best shot. PSIII got wacked with his college position coach watching a few weeks ago -- but he did a lot of good things too. It's baseball.

There are perfect spots somewhere for both of the Rowlett senior pitchers.

Honestly, I don't know how they found out. Small world theory I guess.

I want everyone to know I'm not one of those dads who thinks his son is better than he really is. I know what he is. I know there is a place for him to play somewhere. But where that place is...we have no idea. This whole process is very frustrating. I think more frustrating for me than him but I know it does wear on him. I can do is tell him to keep doing what he's been doing and someone will notice.

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This whole process is very frustrating. I think more frustrating for me than him but I know it does wear on him. I can do is tell him to keep doing what he's been doing and someone will notice.

Ringer1:
Good advise,to your son, and tell him to keep contacting coaches.
It will work out.

My original post was not to say pitchers throwing below 90 were any less important on a staff. I just was curious about the ones over that 90 mark with consistancy and LEGITIMACY. People are always yapping about how hard kids throw and if you believe it all, you would think every staff was 3 or more pitchers throwing 90+. Many superior teams have no one throwing up there, but are able to sit down a LOT of batters.

Anyone want to make the list again?

What for?

They'll just argue about it. Seems pretty senseless.

Ringer1,
I have watched a lot of JUCO baseball and RHPers that throw mid 80's and "can pitch" are everywhere. Having said that, if your son is a RHPer that throws mid 80's and "can pitch", as a parent you should have him consider a JUCO because it is a target rich environment for the kind of pitcher he is. If you are interested in additional info regarding the JUCO experience, feel free to PM me.

http://eteamz.active.com/AHHS/videos/MOV00156.MPG

Found this on an alternate website.

Haven't seen this kid since little league and he was great then.. I guess he finally grew into his body and looks like hes throwing bullets!