2012 All Beach District Predictions

This thread will explode when the All Beach District team is published. I just found out this afternoon and I am in total disbelief at what I was told. Unbelievable is the word I want to say, but I will say WOW.

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Originally posted by RedRaider87:
Pilot, I hear what your saying. We don't know what the HCs used for selection criteria and are they placing strictly by position. I asked a question earlier about head-to-head pitching vs. hitting and I expected more of a livley debate. When the rest of the list comes out things will get real interesting to say the least. All the old baseball heads out there (including you and I) know that when lists and selections/placements come out everyone will not be happy. As an old D1 player and selectee you know if you dont have pitching it dosn't matter how hard or how far you hit or how many stolen bases you have you must defend the run and minimize the errors and LHS just didn't have it.

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Originally posted by RedRaider87:
... I asked a question earlier about head-to-head pitching vs. hitting and I expected more of a livley debate. ...

I can guarantee you:

1) The coaches have no idea about who did what in the matchiups
2) The coaches do not care about this either

Redbird, I know the coaches could care less it was more of a seed to get people to think about why they chose/believe certain players should be selected and how the players stacked up when facing good pitchers/hitters.

Redbird, as always, you are correct, alot of non all beach selections will go on and have great careers at the next level, they always have, its funny, every player from each team knows who's the best, and who can beat you, thats why those kid's are pitched around or not pitched to at all, hope for good baseball tomorrow. also, all kids that made all beach had great years, taking nothing away from anyone,

As always any "all anything" will be debated, let's just remember these boys DO read this blog. As for the list itself, just heard who all was selected first team, I'm shocked to say the least.

the thing is , and alot of you don't understand this: ALL DISTRICT TEAMS ARE BASED OFF OF NUMBERS, and not the political aspect of things and who is the best player. Faison had a good season, but obviously there were others with better statistics. On the offensive side of things, he had a small slump that may have impacted him possibly making it. Pitching wise he did save Landstown a few times. A few loses , but more times than not he came through. As for the rest of the selections for Landstown, 3rd base was a toss up because I believe Tyler booth had a pretty Good season, hopefully driller can confirm? probably a difficult decision. Sinniger hit slightly under .400 and came in clutch in some ig rbi situations the entire season. He was a bit shaky at third base making a few errors in the beginning of the season, and towards the end really heating it up , defensively and offensively. the last 5 or 6 games of the season HE impressed me more than any of landstowns other players. As for outfield, everyone knows by now how blankenship was on fire the first 10 games or so hitting welllllllll over .500 closer to .600 , he also led the eagles in rbis . Hinton finished the season with Landstown's highest batting average, and had through most hits on the team. He hit about .480 ( numbers may vary a few thousandths based on recordkeeping ) and didn't make an error in the outfield this season.

But can we get some insight on the other 1st team nominees ?

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Originally posted by playright:
let's just remember these boys DO read this blog.

Post of the year. THANK YOU.

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Originally posted by hellosir:
hit about .480 ( numbers may vary a few thousandths based on recordkeeping ) and didn't make an error in the outfield this season.

No errors? Yes he did, had 2 against FC.

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Originally posted by RedRaider87:
Redbird, I know the coaches could care less it was more of a seed to get people to think about why they chose/believe certain players should be selected and how the players stacked up when facing good pitchers/hitters.

Couldn't care less* is the saying I believe.

Since many of you have seen the list, would you mind sharing it with the rest of us?

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Originally posted by playright:

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Originally posted by hellosir:
hit about .480 ( numbers may vary a few thousandths based on recordkeeping ) and didn't make an error in the outfield this season.

No errors? Yes he did, had 2 against FC.

That's funny considering Landstown only had 1 error as a team against fc ... and it was a throwing error .... Don't believe my book , check the pilot..

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Originally posted by diamonddad9:
Since many of you have seen the list, would you mind sharing it with the rest of us?

I wonder if anyone else has seen the entire list? As far as earlier post, until the list is published I never believe what I read. Last year there were early grumblings about 2nd team placement and then when the list was out the player(s) in question were 1st team at a different position, or utility, or dh. But can't lie, looking forward to seeing the official list and reading the funny papers here!

Really looking forward to seeing the list and how it compares to the Pilot's Tuesday post of this season's batting/pitching stats. Would assume that is where most of the 1st team came from!

The stats in the Pilot are only as good as what is recorded. I can guarantee you the coach or dad scoring the game doesn't know the rules of scoring. I've seen numerous occasions of "oh, just give him a hit.". Do that once per week and you can raise a batting averge 80 points or more.

Then, the coach gets to review them. This year, I've heard of a 1 hitter becoming a no hitter after the coach's review.

The stats in the newspaper aren't worth the paper they are written on.

Was assuming "daddy ball" would not come in to play what the coaches report...sounds like I could be wrong???

I can tell you this. Kellam only had 2 first teamers (MM & KM), very frustrating looking at the entire list. I would publish it, but do not want to start any problems on here, especially for the boys who have not been told yet.

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Originally posted by diamonddad9:
Since many of you have seen the list, would you mind sharing it with the rest of us?

Sam Sinnen didn't make first team?!

That's ridiculous.

You have got to be kidding me. Who beat Sam sinnen out as a pitcher this year ?!? No One , he was the best & he got left off ?!?!

so FC went 13 and 3, no one is 1st team, cool, Beach must be loaded,

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Originally posted by redbird5:
I can guarantee you the coach or dad scoring the game doesn't know the rules of scoring. The stats in the newspaper aren't worth the paper they are written on.

That's a rather presumptious guarantee. I'm sure some do and some don't. Also sure there is a little home town cooking now and then. But I've seen that in pro ball too. The stats in the paper is pretty much all we have to go on other than the games we all watched and saw how different players performed.

Has the All Beach district team been announced yet or is this thread all guess work?

You mean to tell me you believe that the Varsity Baseball coaches 'only' know enough about the players to just go on some blown up stats published 1 time. If that is the case then you are making a huge insult and essentially deeming the Beach District coaches as incompetent. I just don’t agree with that, for at least the programs I am aware of. These guys know these players. You don't think the Kellam coaching staff goes around and watches these players? You don't think these coaches have received information about their opponents. My god through AAU the players all know each other for years before they step on a varsity baseball field.

If the process is so overwhelmed with favoritism then it is broken. I say give the ballots to the players and let them pick. It would mean more to the ones that got picked anyway, selected by their peers rather than a bunch of coaches relying on “some garbage” statistics!!

Who’s picked doesn’t mean much to me but I do think it does mean something to the players. Let’s make it real!!

I know it is hard to believe but some of the high school players don't know what there own players can do much less other teams players.

Pirates21, if your last post is directed to my comments please go back and read what I said. I was referring to parents/fans watching the games, not coaches. I am not saying coaches use the stats published to pick the players. But I for one didn't go scout every player out there. Maybe you can name the starters on every team but I'm betting most of us can't. As for how the coaches do make their picks, I can't say. I have never been in the room when they did, so maybe you can enlighten the rest of us on the information and criteria used.

My bad rainout, I did read it wrong.
But I don't think naming all the starters on every team has much relevance to identifying the players that are likely candidates for honors such as all district.
Previous posts by knowledgeable members on this board likely surfaced most of the legitimate candidates, granted not all of them. I have not been in the room, and based on the posts so far, glad not to be. Should be a great day of baseball today!!

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Originally posted by pirates21:
My bad rainout, I did read it wrong.
But I don't think naming all the starters on every team has much relevance to identifying the players that are likely candidates for honors such as all district.
Previous posts by knowledgeable members on this board likely surfaced most of the legitimate candidates, granted not all of them. I have not been in the room, and based on the posts so far, glad not to be. Should be a great day of baseball today!!

No problem..and you are right, great day for baseball!

I would politely disagree that not knowing all the kids is important. There are talented players that don't play on those couple of showcase/aau teams in the summer that many of the people in this forum are in together. And there are others mentioned that did play but their performance during school year wasn't impressive.

But more importantly, it's almost game time. Good luck to your kids during the tournament.

So taking from what Tomax and Pilots have said, the top 2 teams in the standings only managed a total of 2 players on the first team (2 for kellam, 0 for fc)....wow this list will be interesting.

any scores to report from the beach district

Salem over landstown 7-0
Kellam over ocean lakes 6-4
Currently top 4 cox leading PA 3-1

All tied up cox and pa, will Callahan with a 2 run home run

good job scott, keep us posted

Final 8-7 PA gutsy performance by Pete Danielson

Final FC 4 Kville 3 in 10

Those final 3 games were pretty exciting. Heard more names for the "all-district" list while at the field. Have to admit I am becoming more shocked as I hear more names. Anyone have the full list yet?

Just curious why the Landstown kids knew Thursday night about their schools selections but most the other players in the district are still listening to the rumors heard during the games yesterday. Is there some sort of protocol to all this or a reason why the list has not been released???

coaches tell the players, players talk, now Im not sure who won what, but from this thread and talking to some, PA has 2 1st teamer's, Landstown had 3, Kellam 2, FC 0, Cox at least 1, Green Run 1, Salem at least 1, again, a lot of players had outstanding years, maybe they should make it an allstar team and list the top 20 players, also, the Beach does have some very good SS's, Davis, Brown, Faison, Walker, Pezzella, Lamb, they're pretty good, and they're all Soph and Jr's, wow.

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Originally posted by Texas Leaguer:
Just curious why the Landstown kids knew Thursday night about their schools selections but most the other players in the district are still listening to the rumors heard during the games yesterday.

The Landstown coach posted his players on the team's website Friday morning.

As usual the cox boys chanting on the side lines like a softball team. Later in the game when things got tight the ump had to move them from behind the plate.