And what college will he be representing? ACC school like 1/3 of the line-up? He is not by far the best catcher in the district! I'm not saying he was not the right pick, because his numbers are probably at the top, but would they be at the top if he played for another team...where the whole line up is not going to college.
Well say who the kid is because Vann hit almost .500 on the year, driving in multiple runs in big games. Also, the kids pop time is sub 2 all the time. Vann will probably end up at a Junior College. There is no question he was the correct choice. No one else was even close.
quote:Originally posted by saipanwarrior:
And what college will he be representing? ACC school like 1/3 of the line-up? He is not by far the best catcher in the district! I'm not saying he was not the right pick, because his numbers are probably at the top, but would they be at the top if he played for another team...where the whole line up is not going to college.
He was by far the best hitting catcher in the district this year and had to be among the best hitters in the district overall. I'm sure that carried significant weight in the voting.
Yea the kid just rakes all the time, there is no other catcher in the district who can swing it the way he can and thats just fact.
Like I said, I'm not questioning his numbers, or his selection. I'm just saying he is not by far the "best." 1st team and 2nd team selections are only worth about 5 cents in college and maybe a little bragging rights.
quote:Originally posted by saipanwarrior:
And what college will he be representing? ACC school like 1/3 of the line-up? He is not by far the best catcher in the district! I'm not saying he was not the right pick, because his numbers are probably at the top, but would they be at the top if he played for another team...where the whole line up is not going to college.
I'm curious as to who you think is better? I suspect I know who you are referring to, and again...not close. If I'm right, I wish the young man all the best, playing for an excellent coach, who I consider a friend. He will also enjoy the surroundings in the New River Valley.
Otherwise, Vann was not only the leading hitter on that team, but is easily one of the top few bats in the entire district, much less at his position.
Your view is that "his numbers are probably at the top" of the district, hitting fourth "where the whole line up is going to college". Having re-read that, your argument is lost on me. I'm sure we'll agree to disagree, and that's ok! But, I have to assume that you didn't see many games this year.
Regarding college, let's just say that there are plenty of D1 schools that would love to have a Zach Vann on their roster.
quote:Originally posted by saipanwarrior:
Like I said, I'm not questioning his numbers, or his selection. I'm just saying he is not by far the "best." 1st team and 2nd team selections are only worth about 5 cents in college and maybe a little bragging rights.
There are plenty of kids, every year, who bypass college to play professional baseball. There are also tons of kids that choose, for reasons of their own, to go JUCO! Suggesting that he is not the best, because he has not signed a D1 letter of intent, suggests a complete lack of understanding.
quote:Originally posted by saipanwarrior:
Like I said, I'm not questioning his numbers, or his selection. I'm just saying he is not by far the "best." 1st team and 2nd team selections are only worth about 5 cents in college and maybe a little bragging rights.
Originally you said "the best catcher in the district is not even mentioned", therefore reasonable people can infer that you were questioning his selection before you started backtracking.
I'm not back tracking at all! And just because you are voted on first team, doesn't mean you are the best!
quote:Originally posted by saipanwarrior:
I'm not back tracking at all! And just because you are voted on first team, doesn't mean you are the best!
Well then please educate us on your criteria for why your unnamed player was the best catcher in the district this year.
what up dog, good talking 2 you the other night.How about this situation if you looked at stats led the district in wins, led the district in k;s and led the district in era and only walked 11 guys in 52 innings but got penalized by who he pitched against only to make honorable mention.
We can go back and forth all night. You have your opinion of who you think is the best and I have mine. But in the end that's all it is, an opinion.
If numbers really mean anything, then why is Troy Jones not listed on either list? Who else had 8 wins in the District? And really could have been 9-0 if not for two unearned runs in the game he lost 2-1.
If numbers really mean anything, then why is Troy Jones not listed on either list? Who else had 8 wins in the District? And really could have been 9-0 if not for two unearned runs in the game he lost 2-1.
There is no doubt who the 1st team catcher should be....Zach Vann, guess no one saw him go 4 for 4 on Tues night with 2 RBI's and one run scored. He always and I mean always steps up in the big games.Anyone remember the 3 run homer and grand slam at state last year.
quote:Originally posted by Go Dawgs:quote:Originally posted by saipanwarrior:
I'm not back tracking at all! And just because you are voted on first team, doesn't mean you are the best!
Well then please educate us on your criteria for why your unnamed player was the best catcher in the district this year.
quote:Originally posted by CARDS FAN:
what up dog, good talking 2 you the other night.How about this situation if you looked at stats led the district in wins, led the district in k;s and led the district in era and only walked 11 guys in 52 innings but got penalized by who he pitched against only to make honorable mention.
I think he was overlooked and as I said before the voting took place, I feared he would be penalized for not getting a start against the best teams in the district. Unfortunately that was out of his control. But that is very different than the catcher selection though. The best catcher was voted 1st team.
Because his fastball barely reaches 80mph on a good day. Just the facts man.
quote:Originally posted by saipanwarrior:
We can go back and forth all night. You have your opinion of who you think is the best and I have mine. But in the end that's all it is, an opinion.
If numbers really mean anything, then why is Troy Jones not listed on either list? Who else had 8 wins in the District? And really could have been 9-0 if not for two unearned runs in the game he lost 2-1.
Didn't he just beat the District Champs on their own field, with their best pitcher on the mound? Just the facts!
quote:Originally posted by saipanwarrior:
We can go back and forth all night. You have your opinion of who you think is the best and I have mine. But in the end that's all it is, an opinion.
Actually we can't go back and forth because you haven't offered up a) the name of the catcher you think was the best in the SED and b) anything to support your claim. Instead you evade and move on to another topic. I think that speaks volumes.
I moved own, because you have a personal interest as you are the father of a player on that team! The kid I'm referring to is mentioned in the thread earlier, but not by me.
Does not matter if a you have a kid on any team, the kids read these forums, I applaud saipanwarrior for not disclosing his cather. with over 150 kids playing varsity baseball its hard to recognize every kid. But congrats to every kid who played this year.
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Ah I see....so somebody from Va Beach with no interest in any team probably watched every single game in the SED to assess who was the best catcher in the district in 2012 and be able to judge better than the 10 coaches of the district who they felt was the best catcher this year.
And we absolutely shouldn't name players we think are the best in the district in fears they may read that somebody thinks they're the best.
And we absolutely shouldn't name players we think are the best in the district in fears they may read that somebody thinks they're the best.
Sounds like someone needs some tissues, I have watched players at all positions this year and Vann is one of the best catchers to paly in our entire region in quite a while.
quote:Originally posted by saipanwarrior:
Like I said, I'm not questioning his numbers, or his selection. I'm just saying he is not by far the "best." 1st team and 2nd team selections are only worth about 5 cents in college and maybe a little bragging rights.
I won't disagree that Vann is a good catcher but I don't know if I would be able to say in quite a while in the entire region. I know Saipan has his eyes on the fields all over the place and has a very good eye for talent. Also take into consideration if you have a team full of college players it is easier to get pitches to hit, whereas a player on a young team that is carrying that team will likely be pressing in order to keep his team afloat!
quote:Originally posted by Bubba12:
Sounds like someone needs some tissues, I have watched players at all positions this year and Vann is one of the best catchers to paly in our entire region in quite a while.
Let's not get carried away. He swings it well for a HS hitter. He has quite a way to go to be a top level catch and throw guy.