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Originally posted by six2four2three:
Boyd beats Marcus 7-4 in 8 innings. Douglas throws complete game. Sidenote..Gill was helped off the field after a slide into 3rd. looked like an ankle injury.


This game was a lot of fun but also very stressful as a spectator. Marcus deserves a lot of credit. They are a well-coached group that plays the game hard and I'm sure they'll be tough again tomorrow. Also, if you've never been to a game at Prosper High School you should plan to. It's an incredible facility. Boyd and Marcus play there again tomorrow at 1 PM.
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Originally posted by Summertime:
Don't see FM beating PW in a three game or seven game series. FM was great in 6-5A, but the standard of play in 8-5A is much higher. FM did a great job of grooming FMM, C and SLC to whip up on 5-5A, but no one pushed FM in return. Next year in 8-5A, Allen finally gets some district competition in football and FM and FMM rise to the new standard of play in baseball.

Next rnd, Jesuit vs PW.


Tap the brakes on that one, pardner. If 8-5a was so highly dominant, hard to imagine why the Wolves would have opted for a one gamer. Not extending the debate on that rule, but clearly the underdog uses the one game play-off.

I wouldn't lock and load on that quarterfinal match either. Say what you want on Hughes, but he tends to get his teams hanging around in May. Might be a long day of baseball in Dallas today.
Jesuit 4 - SLC 3 - Jesuit wins the first 2 games of the series and moves on to the 3rd round to play Plano West. What a great playoff game to watch!! SLC came to play and opened the game with a home run on the first pitch of the game and scored 3 runs in the top of the 1st on Jesuit starter Jacques de Gruy. From that point on, de Gruy was focussed and back to form and had his fast ball, slider and curve working for strikes. de Gruy didn't allow a hit or run for the next 5 innings... The entire Jesuit team played very well. Zack Redding had a solo home run to close the gap and there were several timely hits with RISP. With Jesuit now a head, 4 - 3 in the top of the 7th, de Gruy struck out the 1st batter, walked the second, allowed a single to right field and with 2 men on, struck out the next 2 batters to end the inning and the game. de Gruy was 89 - 91; touched 93, allowed 5 hits, 9 K's and 3 walks... Congratulations to the Jesuit Rangers for winning the 2nd round playoffs. Go Rangers!!
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Originally posted by waveinator:
Jesuit 4 - SLC 3 - Jesuit wins the first 2 games of the series and moves on to the 3rd round to play Plano West. What a great playoff game to watch!! SLC came to play and opened the game with a home run on the first pitch of the game and scored 3 runs in the top of the 1st on Jesuit starter Jacques de Gruy. From that point on, de Gruy was focussed and back to form and had his fast ball, slider and curve working for strikes. de Gruy didn't allow a hit or run for the next 5 innings... The entire Jesuit team played very well. Zack Redding had a solo home run to close the gap and there were several timely hits with RISP. With Jesuit now a head, 4 - 3 in the top of the 7th, de Gruy struck out the 1st batter, walked the second, allowed a single to right field and with 2 men on, struck out the next 2 batters to end the inning and the game. de Gruy was 89 - 91; touched 93, allowed 6 hits, 9 K's and 3 walks... Congratulations to the Jesuit Rangser for winning the 2nd round playoffs. Go Rangers!!


Wow,mentioning your son 5 times in one post. That has to be a HSBBW record.
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Originally posted by Dtiger:
Nothing wrong at all, and he has a lot to be proud of, but it's kind of obvious to us all.


If it's obvious, then why the post...unless there is an attempt to emabarrass or discredit. I could understand if it was a rival doing this, but an alumni and a former team mate makes me scratch my head.

Jacques has pitched very well down the stretch. His last start against Plano West, he gave up 1 run on 3 hits. 4 runs (3 earned) and 6 hits against Boyd. Came in relief for 2.2 innings against Cedar Hill with 1 hit and no runs. And then pitched the win yesterday against SLC with 3 runs on 6 hits. Since District has started, he is has wins in all the games he has appreared and complete games in all games he has started.

Jacques has had a great season and will likely get to face Huber Thursday who has had a similarly great season for Plano West. Get there early if you want a seat.
I should've sent a PM, my point was to point out that no one here would discredit him for saying it was his son. It just seemed awkward for a dad to refer to his son in that way, but that's just my opinion. I know multiple parents who post(ed) on this site and no one has a problem--his dad is a little newer to this.

In more important feelings, I've enjoyed watching a couple of Jacques games this year and will hopefully be able to be at CHS. It'll be interesting to see who Jesuit throws because I know from insider info it likely might depend on who they think matches up best with PW. I might have to make a sign poking fun at PW wanting all these one game series...
Ok, now longballs...fair is fair. We roughed up "Funnelcakes" pretty good when it was looking bad for him. But the "facts is", he's going to round 3 in the playoffs and nobody else in the distict is still around.

Two seasons seems like kind of a long time to be spouting the "coat-tails" thing.

wwwwhadayagottosayhere, buddy ? We gonna do the coin-toss whine again ?
DT,

If your lineup has stronger bats and more experience than the other team and your pitcher is dominant, why would you want to prolong a series? FM pitchers, Bruce and Adams are two of the best pitchers in the area and PW handled them with ease.

While the pitchers at Jesuit are fine players and their coach definitely deserves coach of the year, I don't think anyone (especially after the FM game) would confuse PW with Cedar Hill or SLC.

However, a bad ump and a couple of bad bounces could help any team win in a 1 game series. Jesuit has been on a roll and it will be a tough game.

Great job by 8-5A in 2010 and good luck to both teams.
Hornsr1,

You made the case for why you want a 3 game series. If you have better bats and experience, you don't want one game where there's more "chance" involved to decide the series. By wanting a one game, PW is conceding it doesn't think it has as good of a chance winning a 3 game. Simple. Everyone is well aware of the real reason PW wants a one game.

I'll be honest and say that I thought if Jesuit got a three game series, I think they'd win, but PW has to be favored in a 1 game. However, justice would be served if PW ran into some bad luck and lost. Having said that, I hope Jesuit just flat out beats them without luck.
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Originally posted by wraggArm:
Juicy - That Marcus v Boyd series presents a chance to test your theory (ref: game 2 winners always win the series) today at 1:00 pm. The series is split. Game 1 went to MHS, game 2 went to Boyd.


So much for my theory. Man, the more I learn about this game, the less I know...

Other than I would not have pitched to Jesuit RBI machine on Saturday with 1st base open and go ahead runners on base. He made us pay...I think his name was Miller, tough out.

I'm pulling for Jesuit to win out...
Here's hoping that Jesuit practices at 100% game speed this week. First two rounds offered them zero competition -- think they may have played down to the level of competition. Can't wait to see this showdown of 8-5A. PW will bring it.

I was shocked to see a school like Southlake taking their pregame warm up on Saturday at so leisurely, maybe 60% of game speed. The coaches looked uninvolved. You play like you practice. What happened? They couldn't make the tough plays under game pressure.

Way to rise to the occasion Marcus!!! In two post season games with Gill on the mound, two runs have scored. BOOK IT!
Looking at who wins game two of a 3 game and making an argument about how it'd translate to a one game is tough. For example, my senior year at Jesuit, Keller saved their ace for the second game and I threw the first at Keller. We won the first game but then lost the next two. It slightly depends on who throws when.

I agree tho that Southlake left a lot to be desired. Definitely not the same landscape around the area as it was two years ago. As to be expected I guess. The talent I've seen overall has been underwhelming throughout most of DFW high school baseball--but I think that's more of a result of what I was at one point use to and what has now come to be.

I slightly hope the Jesuit/PW game goes extras, that'll make up some for the shorter series and all the good baseball we're going to miss cause of it. I understand the thinking, and really have a hard time blaming PW for wanting a one game when at State, that's what you're forced to play. I think it'd be cool (although I don't know how logistically possible) to have the State rounds be 2 out of 3 and that would the earlier rounds have to be that way as well--thus putting more emphasis on quality throughout the pitching staff.
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Originally posted by Dtiger:
Definitely not the same landscape around the area as it was two years ago. As to be expected I guess. The talent I've seen overall has been underwhelming throughout most of DFW high school baseball--but I think that's more of a result of what I was at one point use to and what has now come to be.


Wow...and my dad used to say he had to walk 5 miles to school, in the snow, up hill both ways. Looking back on your glory days DT...I'm sure you threw lasers, were undefeated, loved by the ladies, etc, etc...the baseball landscape around here is alive and well, except for a few Bozos that post idiocracy on these threads.
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I said, in maybe not so explicit terms, that the "power houses" from before are no longer (some) and teams that were solid before are now top-tier. Prime example: Rockwall-Heath. Southlake, Keller, and Flower Mound all made the 3rd round my senior year. All three had amazing talent. I said the landscape has changed, I didn't say it has eroded. Obviously FM ran into PW this year so that might be a little unfair to say they weren't as strong, but just what I've been hearing from other people with more invested in DFW baseball than I.

I threw some 80mph lasers, lost about 5 games my senior year, and dated one girl throughout all of high school... otherwise, yes.
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Originally posted by doubleday:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Dtiger:
Definitely not the same landscape around the area as it was two years ago. As to be expected I guess. The talent I've seen overall has been underwhelming throughout most of DFW high school baseball--but I think that's more of a result of what I was at one point use to and what has now come to be.



Certainly not to knock anyone, but my theory is this: the opening of new schools and the re-drawing of attendance zones has really watered down high school sports in the Metroplex. Athletes are no longer concentrated at 4 or 5 schools, but rather dispersed with maybe one additional good athlete at some directional school (West, Heath, North, Centennial, Legacy, Central, etc...). Talent is definitely dispersed over a greater number of schools nowadays; much more than it used to be in the days of Duncanville and Arlington Martin in the early 90's, the days of Zach Segovia and his supporting cast at Forney, and even down in Fort Bend (where Elkins used to have ridiculous uber-teams) which is now the largest ISD in the state of Texas. It's sad, but it's reality and just the way it is. On a brighter note, thank goodness Texas hasn't been hit as hard by this down-turn in the economy, and that the population is growing to force the school districts to expand their campuses.
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Originally posted by wraggArm:
Ok, now longballs...fair is fair. We roughed up "Funnelcakes" pretty good when it was looking bad for him. But the "facts is", he's going to round 3 in the playoffs and nobody else in the distict is still around.

Two seasons seems like kind of a long time to be spouting the "coat-tails" thing.

wwwwhadayagottosayhere, buddy ? We gonna do the coin-toss whine again ?
His team is, with very little coaching, the players are playing for them selfs , like they have said before!!
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Originally posted by Pick Johnson:
No dog in this fight but have I missed something? Have you stated your name yet?

I don't think anyone has said their name yet, but according to the other "closed" thread, the one in the pink t-shirt wants to pay the photographer who wears earrings and knee-braces $500 to meet somewhere.

Oh, and *apparently* Xgirl is either some kind of entertainer, or a school adminstrator, or maybe both, who likes her coaches "classy".

Not sure what the Indian is doing in this scene, yet.

I suspect at any moment, we're going to get the condescending "Let's all just grow up and talk baseball" buzzkill. Too bad. This is really great stuff.
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I was quickly reminded today how much this really is just a game...

Jesuit lost a member of its community (not a baseball player, but a student) today and is trying to cope as well as can be as expected as a community. I have sat for about ten minutes blankly at my computer since I heard, as I knew the older brother. Please send a prayer for the Jesuit community, and if you'd like more details, PM me.

This game is a game, and no-matter how much we argue, fight, or frustrate (get frustrated by) each other, I hope we do it appreciating how fortunate we are. I don't know what more to say than that Jesuit is a truly special place, and I know and can find comfort in the community's ability to support the family and my friend in this most unfortunate time.

Thanks
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There is progress being made! Another article by the Dallas Morning News on the farce of the coin flipping and how it gives a distinct advantage to the flipping team. http://www.dallasnews.com/shar...alllede.8e060d2.html The Fort Worth Star Telegram ran a similar article a couple weeks back. The DMN article writer points out that as far back as 1994 when a poll of coaches was taken over 95% wanted the playoffs to be 3-game series. If I had time I'd create a list of all the the great coaches and teams that have been hurt by this rule at the expense of the lesser team (in what ever respect you want to quantify that statement) which has gained an advantage through the flipping process. The article in the DMN this morning focused on Rockwall Heath... a dominant team that got flipped. Was their coach upset or did he say something macho like... "we'll win no matter what the format yada yada yada"? No... he apparently reacted truthfully in disgust, then like a good coach went about his business of trying to prepare his team which had just "lost" a game of flipping! Too bad they had to lose at anything before the real game started!!!! Best of luck to the players and coaches this weekend!
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Originally posted by Dtiger:
Looking at who wins game two of a 3 game and making an argument about how it'd translate to a one game is tough. For example, my senior year at Jesuit, Keller saved their ace for the second game and I threw the first at Keller. We won the first game but then lost the next two. It slightly depends on who throws when.

I agree tho that Southlake left a lot to be desired. Definitely not the same landscape around the area as it was two years ago. As to be expected I guess. The talent I've seen overall has been underwhelming throughout most of DFW high school baseball--but I think that's more of a result of what I was at one point use to and what has now come to be.

I slightly hope the Jesuit/PW game goes extras, that'll make up some for the shorter series and all the good baseball we're going to miss cause of it. I understand the thinking, and really have a hard time blaming PW for wanting a one game when at State, that's what you're forced to play. I think it'd be cool (although I don't know how logistically possible) to have the State rounds be 2 out of 3 and that would the earlier rounds have to be that way as well--thus putting more emphasis on quality throughout the pitching staff.
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Originally posted by Dtiger:
I was quickly reminded today how much this really is just a game...

Jesuit lost a member of its community (not a baseball player, but a student) today and is trying to cope as well as can be as expected as a community. I have sat for about ten minutes blankly at my computer since I heard, as I knew the older brother. Please send a prayer for the Jesuit community, and if you'd like more details, PM me.

This game is a game, and no-matter how much we argue, fight, or frustrate (get frustrated by) each other, I hope we do it appreciating how fortunate we are. I don't know what more to say than that Jesuit is a truly special place, and I know and can find comfort in the community's ability to support the family and my friend in this most unfortunate time.

Thanks


DTiger my prayers go out to the family and to Jesuit for there loss

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