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Originally posted by Joe Morgan:
Robert - What about last year? MHS had all the talent coming back(Baker, Lee and Moore) only replaced 1 starter from the previous year. North was picked to finish somewhere between 3rd and 5th. They ended the year with the #1 seed. When has Coach Price had a team that wasn't expected to make the playoffs finish as the #1 seed? MHS was expected to be district champs this season and they were. Also, it should tell you something when Coach Milam left North. He didn't think the talent was going to be good enough to win 3 more district championships.??

First of all, You are crazy if you think last years North team was not supposed to make the playoffs. Lackie, Nico, Yates...come on.

Second, MHS under achieved last year, no doubt. Is that coach Prices fault? I don't know, I watched every game, never left one of them thinking the coach lost the game. I saw a very strong senior class just play ok. In their defense, the team that knocked us out went a long way, including beating a #1 Poteet. Forney got hot at the right time.

Now, if you say last years MHS team was senior laden, with all that talent, how can you say the rebuilding MHS of this year was district favorites. North had far more returning starters than MHS.

OK, my opinion on Milam, simple...no field maintenance at Boyd. Plain and simple, we figured it one day, he gets to spend an extra 10 to 12 hours a week at home due to the turf. Sounds silly, but it is true.

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Forney got hot at the right time.

Oh you just had to bring that up didn't you. I just got to sleeping all night this spring without waking up and thinking about that series.

The team takes on the coaches persona. "A Rising Tide Lifts all Ships" In other words

Robert - I didn't say I thought they wouldn't make the playoffs. Many of the district coaches had them 3rd - 5th. Also, you know as well as I do that BASEBALL is all about pitching!! Last years pitchers for MHS were Baker, Lee, Moore and Lipka. North had Lackie and 2 unproven pitchers who had NEVER pitched on the varsity. This year Lee and Lipka and Co. for MHS, Ladd and Scharf for North and that is it. All of North's players weigh less than 170. Not exactly an imposing line-up.

I can guarantee you field maintainance didn't get Milam to move. Again, just one of the perks that goes with it. Has it turned out exactly like he thought? Probably not, yet. But ton's of upside.

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Originally posted by Joe Morgan:
7-2 PO Sure that all played a part of him going to Boyd, but if I know coaches like I think I do the most important thing about any job is WINNING.

Okay Joe, So in your opinion, how's he doing?

I don't think he has had as much success as he thought he would. District records - 09 3and 8, 08 6 and 8, 07 7 and 7 1st round playoff loss. Verdict still out as the job has a chance to be really good. Tough district every year and will always have outside problems.

So, if you were to judge coaches performance by winning percentages, would one say he was a good coach? A good coach doing a bad job at winning? A good coach needs good players? A good coach can't win in a tough division?

I do not judge coaches on winning percentages only. I think you should look at the talent, the teams they are playing and the winning percentage.

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Originally posted by Joe Morgan:
I do not judge coaches on winning percentages only. I think you should look at the talent, the teams they are playing and the winning percentage.

So you're saying that if he had talent that was as good as the other teams talent, he would win more games.


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I don't think he has had as much success as he thought he would. District records - 09 3and 8, 08 6 and 8, 07 7 and 7 1st round playoff loss. Verdict still out as the job has a chance to be really good. Tough district every year and will always have outside problems."

So with his winning percentage decreasing in each of his seasons... has he gotten better or worse at his job? Has he not been able to develop talent? Has not had talent to work with? Has been handcuffed by the booster club?

No - I am saying that if he had the same talent that District 8 - 5A has then he is not doing a very good job. If he doesn't have the same talent then he could be doing a good job. Same thing in 08 and 07. That is up to the person who is trying to judge Milam(or any coach). I

Sorry Joe, I know you're not judging Milam. I'm just playing. At least I'm not ruthless like Robert can be.

He's (Milam) a good kid. Really. You're all right too.

Anyone can spin anything anyway they want on here. Coaches have it tuff.

I totally agree. I think MISD has 3 very good coaches and that is why I wasn't sure why Robert doesn't care for Gatewood. I know he has his reasons and I respect that.

[QUOTE]Originally posted by 7-2 PO:
At least I'm not ruthless like Robert can be.

Looks to me like you just were. What did I do?

PS - Show me a ruthless post by me that I wasn't sticking up for MHS or Price.

Robert you didn't do anything.

you call that ruthless? I call it sarcasm.

sorry if I insulted you.

I hope one day I learn to post comics and photos too!

Can we pick on the Frisco coaches now?

How 'bout that Coach Scott?

Milam made it to Austin, nuff said. That gets you a 10 year pass.

not living in mckinney, i guess i am missing out on something. my question is --why is everyone so jealous and worried about the coach of the other schools there? just let the kids play.

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Originally posted by pigbrain:
not living in mckinney, i guess i am missing out on something. my question is --why is everyone so jealous and worried about the coach of the other schools there? just let the kids play.

I sure feel sorry for the coaches in this district for having to deal with some of you folks. There's not a coaching stipend big enough to justify that kind of misery.

Changing the subject!

Did anyone get an official ruling on what would happen in the event North were to beat Wakeland forcing a three way tie for third?

3 way tie - flip winner of the flip is in the other two play - winner then plays the winner of the flip for seeding. Lion Pop - don't feel sorry for the baseball coaches. The opposing parents don't like them. That usually means they are doing a good job.

thanks Joe

That was McKinney Lion instead of LionPop.

I don't like the subject of talking about coaches.(At least not talking bad)

I love the coach my son plays for and am not qualified to make any other comment, from MY point of view ALL the 9-4a coaches are good coaches.


If I were voting for coach of the year in this district and can NOT vote for my sons coach. I would vote for the Wakeland coach. I love watching them play, they are young, they hustle, take their cuts and don't get cheated at the plate, play hard when they are ahead and just as hard when they are behind. These are qualities that I notice about a team that I am not personally involved with daily/weekly. Good coaching is the only way you will see these qualities through the entire team. (This is what I see and I understand someone else might see it differently)

For the record, I would vote for coach Price!

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Originally posted by Joe Morgan:
3 way tie - flip winner of the flip is in the other two play - winner then plays the winner of the flip for seeding. Lion Pop - don't feel sorry for the baseball coaches. The opposing parents don't like them. That usually means they are doing a good job.

I have verified twice with coach Price, he says if North beats Wakeland, Centennial is in and North Plays Wakeland, I texted him yesterday to make sure I was not incorrect. He said Centennial is in if North beats Wakeland. FYI

Thanks RobertS!

I am asking so I don't miss a play-in game if one is played. (Not trying to be a pest)

Centennial is NOT automatically in. There is no true head to head winner. North and Centennial split. Centennial beat Wakeleand twice. If north beats Wakeland, they split. There will be a coin flip between the 3, got my info from the North coaches, twice as well. The winner of the flip is in and waits for the other 2 to play. Then plays the winner of the elimination game. With the swine ****, the only thing that may change is there may be a whole lot of flipping going on. Let's hope not. FYI

If North wins against Wakeland then Centennial is in the playoffs. In my earlier post I did not realize that Centennial had beaten Wakeland in BOTH games. Therefore, they would be the dominant team out of the 3. Wakeland and North would have to play then the winner would play/flip Centennial for seeding.

I think ole Joe Morgan from Bonham , Tx. is correct. Centennial will wait for North and Wakeland to play. If North wins, they play for seeding. If Wakeland beats North in the play-in game, Centennial would be the 3 seed due to the head to head advantage. All assuming North wins the 1st game whenever that will be now. If Wakeland beats North in that 1st game, it's all moot. Wakeland-3rd, Centennial-4th

Ok, ok..I stand corrected(tucking tail between legs).Joe and El Jeff are correct. (God that hurts to admit I'm wrong- ok , got that over with). But let's throw a wrinkle in this. Can't believe I'm going to agree with 1 of Robert's(gulp!) earlier posts, but I also think we can't go through the whole season and not have Frisco, Denison, or the likes pull off an upset. Frisco beating Centennial is not out of the question. Denison nearly did last Fri. as well as Frisco nearly beating North. If the Raccoons defeat Centennial(anything can go in those crosstown games), it throws a whole new wrinkle into this that we haven't been talking about. Lots of scenarios if that happens.

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Originally posted by hewhoknows:
There will be a coin flip between the 3, got my info from the North coaches, twice as well.

Is there a fib in here, or did the North coaches not know the rules???? I'm thinking fibber!

By my calculations, there are 2,432 possible scenarios for playoffs/play-ins for district 9-4A. I'm just going to sit back and wait. A lot easier.

For my .02 and what it's worth........all of these coaches have their good points, as well maybe their not so good points. Sound like anyone you know?

I'm going to enjoy a break in scheduling umps (after our meeting tonight) and head out Saturday a.m. for Abilene for the Lonestar Conference Tournament. GO ANGELO!!!!!

Do u think u girls can go 2 weeks without gossip about coaches and trying to settle the playoff situations, and most importantly world peace?

From Mckinney News
Ex-'Dog Lackie Strikes Out Career-Best 7
Thursday, April 30, 2009
Posted at 08:36 AM in Sports
Former McKinney North baseball standout Matt Lackie struck out a career-high seven batters Tuesday as Louisiana-Lafayette defeated McNeese State 4-1.

Lackie, a freshman right-hander, got the win to improve to 2-1 after scattering five hits in 5.2 innings of one-run ball. He also walked four.

Lackie's strong performance allowed the Cajuns to move to .500 for the sixth time this season and win their seventh straight over McNeese.

UL coach Tony Robichaux told The (Lafayette) Advertiser that Lackie did a good job of mixing his pitches, locating his fastball and getting his curve ball and change-up over the plate.

"I try to get ahead in the count a lot, and I thought I did that pretty good early on," Lackie told the newspaper. "In about the fifth inning, I hit the wall. But I felt good when I got out of that."

Lackie's performance came in front of the largest home crowd of the year for UL -- 2,885 at M.L. "Tigue" Moore Field.


Way to go Matt Lackie

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Originally posted by pigbrain:
Do u think u girls can go 2 weeks without gossip about coaches and trying to settle the playoff situations, and most importantly world peace?

HaHa, why try????

Way to go Matt!!! OP, I hope you have a new cell and are not just ignoring my texts.

Robert,

Check PM....

Playoff Schedule Question:

If I read the UIL playoff dates correctly it says that all district play and seeding must be completed by the 19th, then first round must be complete by the 23rd. Does this mean that the first round games can not start before the 19th?

Correct

i think the plan is to play the bi-district games on friday and saturday the 22nd and 23rd. i guess some teams might start on the 21st.

With the latest UIL change, when will 9-4A now finish district and solve any of their tiebreakers?