Better than Zach Duke???

infielddad,
That review is of the minor leagues, maybe done before Zach moved up????
Once you make it to the show, you lose your prospect status.
Anyone else know about this?

If you take a look at BA's top 100 propsect list
they put out in March you can identify quite a few players who are up that are still considered prospects:

Joe Mauer
Scott Kazmir
Zach
Aaron Hill
Brandon League
Jon Papelbon (recently sent back down)
Igucgi (Who beat us with a HR today!)
Houston Street

Maybe PG or bbscout can tell us how long they need to be on a roster before that are no longer considered propscts?

Hello out there all of you baseball wizard's, can anyone help us?

Here is a list of pitchers that are better than Zach Duke.




Fungo

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Originally posted by Fungo:
Here is a list of pitchers that are better than Zach Duke.




Fungo

Fungo provides more accurate info than BA at a very reduced cost.

Does anybody know if Zach qualifies for rookie of the year voting this year?

Fungo,

I don't even think the smily-faced guy () on your list is pitching better than Zach right now.

I've been wondering myself if Zach can be considered eligible for rookie of the year. My son said he doesn't think Zach has been up long enough. Are their "rules" about a certain amount of time playing or does it just influence the voting?

Yes, Zach doesn't have enough starts to be considered for rookie of the year award, but he has enough time to get it. If he continious pitching the same way for the rest of the season, by sure he will be considered.

Guess who was voted the NL Rookie of the month for July?...assume Baseball America was not involved in the voting.
The BA poll was for AAA players and was probably taken before Zach was promoted, so he would have been a "prospect". To list two pitchers in AAA considered to be better prospects, with the numbers Zach had been posting, is difficult to understand...but does sell newspapers. If I had to guess, the two listed by BA as the best pitching prospects in AAA throw 94 which Zach doesn't. Just uses that "control" to get outs.

http://pittsburgh.pirates.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/news/artic...t&fext=.jsp&c_id=pit

infielddad ...

BA's concept of prospect is usually different than that of the average fan. For pitchers, size and velocity are the key factors and if they have to talk about a pitcher that knows how to win without the 6'7" stature or the 95 mph fastball, they have to use qualifying expressions like "You can't argue with results ..."

It is really interesting to see who they consider prospects and who they don't consider prospects. If a pitcher (only position I can relate to ) doesn't fit their stereotype but does well, they will occasionally report on his outings if he is doing well and drop him off their "watch list" if he is struggling. A pitcher that fits their concept of a true prospect, whether doing well or not, gets their attention all the time whethe he is performing well or not. JMO(bservations)

Evidently there is no minimum playing time to be eligible for ROY, however, you can't have more than 50 innings pitched or 130 AB. ZD only needs to go 3 1/3 innings for this to qualify as his rookie year (and not 2006). As much as I'd love to see him win, I sure hope Chris Duffy gives him a run at it!

Another rookie phenom is Jeff Francoeur with the Braves. The only reason I am posting this in Zach's thread is because of something interesting that Jeff said while being interviewed after playing Pittsburg.

Zach plunked Jeff during his AB and when asked about it, Jeff responded that there was some "history" between the two in Minors and that he was half expecting to get hit.

Maybe Opp or Opp,jr. can fill us in??

Yet most of these guys wont make it big

My buddy Jeff Francis from the Rockies is pretty good I think.