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It occurred to me that young players (age 10-17) are being taught (when they are taught) the opposite of what they should be learning. Young hitters are being told to hit the ball in the air to the pull side. That’s the wrong thing to teach a young hitter. At that age they should be taught to hit line drives gap to gap. And to hit the outside pitch to the opposite field. They should be learning situational hitting, how to run the bases, and how to bunt. If a young player learns a good swing, and how to play the game, the power will show up later. It doesn’t work the other way around. The same goes for pitchers. They are being taught to throw everything max effort. Command is being sacrificed for 2-3 mph of additional velocity. Young pitchers are not being taught how to field their position, how to control the running game, and when to back up bases. Those are the things they need to learn first. Establish good, repeatable mechanics early on. Learn to throw a change up early on. The velocity will show up later.
   This is how things should be done. I get it that it’s not happening. But if you have the courage to buck the trend, and block out the noise, your son will have a better experience in HS - because he will be a better player. And if he is good enough to be recruited to play college ball, he will have a better experience there too - because his coach will trust him. Btw, all of this can be accomplished w/o traveling to Florida and/or Georgia. Just something for the younger crowd to think about.

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@Dadof3 posted:

My boys have always been taught to hit oppo.  My youngest, 10, for some reason loves to pitch.  I started getting him lessons on how to pitch properly.  I don’t want him throwing fast.  I want him throwing correctly.  Like you said, I know the power and velocity will come later.

Hold your ground on this. Most of your peer group of parents/players will try to tell you that you are wrong.

@2019&21 Dad posted:

You're not wrong, but unfortunately college coaches have a velo floor for pitchers and you don't even get a look if you don't meet it. So what's a pitcher of 15/16 or so to do? Gotta get there.

There is no need to train for velo before the age of 16. With new recruiting rules nobody is watching 14-15u. Furthermore, many kids bodies have not yet developed enough before age16 to justify high stress, high workload throwing. If proper mechanics are established early on velo will show up by 16 w/o having to resort to drastic measures

I think he means going to big PG tournaments at a young age.  Not necessary for anyone.

I met a family with 2 young players this year from Arkansas that were playing a  tourney in TN while Gators were there. According to their social media they were recently somewhere in Texas.

And yes they were Perfect Game youth events!

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Adbono;

Unfortunately nobody is working on the development of "reflex" action.

Listening to the Dodger announcers last night discussing the fear of the
Dodgers base runners when Ohtani is batting. It is difficult to imagine the "bat speed" of the ML players and the defense ability of the infielders.

A player playing in U 17 is NOT obtaining the necessary reflex's and wisdom  to compete on the next level. There are methods to achieve these goals.

Bob

@Consultant posted:

Adbono;

Unfortunately nobody is working on the development of "reflex" action.

Listening to the Dodger announcers last night discussing the fear of the
Dodgers base runners when Ohtani is batting. It is difficult to imagine the "bat speed" of the ML players and the defense ability of the infielders.

A player playing in U 17 is NOT obtaining the necessary reflex's and wisdom  to compete on the next level. There are methods to achieve these goals.

Bob

What are those methods?

DAD of 3;
do you have a fungo bat? Is your player an infielder or OF. Daily 20 minute
infield drills seldom hit an grounder direct to the fielder.
We called it "range work" left - right, right - left. Same as OF
Work out with local College players.
When you are pitching bp ask the hitter to tell you where he will hit the
ball.
Throw "short" 40 feet. No "soft' pitches.
Bob

On Thu, Jul 4, 2024 at 3:57 PM HS Baseball Web <alerts@crowdstack.com>
wrote:

From day one my son was a dead pull hitter. When he got to 13u majors level travel he started facing some real good pitching. He was still pulling everything and hitting for high average.

I told him if he would stop trying to pull everything he would hit .475 instead of .375. I talked myself blue in the face trying to get him to drive the outside pitch the other way. Sometimes he would come around pitches and hit shag fly outs to right.

When a kid hits .340 and makes all conference shortstop soph year of high school it can be hard to convince him otherwise if anything.

But sometimes it takes hearing another voice not your father regardless if how much dad knows about hitting. His 17u coach (post soph summer) watched him for a season come around every outside pitch and be successful. He pulled him aside and told him he’s a D1/pro prospect if he starts going with the pitch. A lot of the off-season was spent driving the ball the other way.

He hit .525+ junior year of high school. He actually had more power than before. He was driving doubles up the gap the other way. Being bigger and stronger junior year his homer numbers went up anyway.

Lesson one is learn to hit the ball the other way.

Lesson two might be regardless of how much baseball you know as Coach Dad it can be good to get someone else in your son’s ear. The change my son made between soph and junior year was exactly what I had been telling him to do since he was thirteen.

@Consultant posted:
DAD of 3;
do you have a fungo bat? Is your player an infielder or OF. Daily 20 minute
infield drills seldom hit an grounder direct to the fielder.
We called it "range work" left - right, right - left. Same as OF
Work out with local College players.
When you are pitching bp ask the hitter to tell you where he will hit the
ball.
Throw "short" 40 feet. No "soft' pitches.
Bob

On Thu, Jul 4, 2024 at 3:57 PM HS Baseball Web <alerts@crowdstack.com>
wrote:

Infielder, and great info.  Thanks

DAD of 3:

In BP use wood. If it breaks, "tape it and use again".

When you son hits in a game watch like a scout.

Watch One AB from 1st base side, one AB behind Home plate and one AB from 3b side. When you hit fungos, constantly remind your son not to backhand if he can slide behind the ground ball. Backhand is for "showcases" not game conditions.

Yesterday, I received a call from one of 1st Northern California Pro scouts who coached the 1st Cubs Northern California Area Code  Scout team. He reminded me of the change in the game.

"The lack of honest player evaluations".

Bob

Recruited where? DI,II,III,JUCO,NAIA....?

Be lefthanded, be an exceptional human specimen, have "it", have a strong work ethic, have parents that can afford the best instruction, play on the best travel teams. As you slide down this scale you slide down the "drafted out of HS to the DI to NAIA" or below, if there is a below.

The “where” they are being recruited to isn’t the point of the post. The point is to provide guidance on what to work on to give yourself a better chance of being recruited at all. But I’m pretty sure you knew that.

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