PitchingFan posted: Explain the difference as you see it. I believe pitches are like plays. You hope the pitcher does what he is supposed to do with the ball like a football coach hopes the qb, rb, or wr does what he is supposed to do. You expect a result in football according to what you see from the defense and have scouted them to respond with no different than a batter in baseball. It is the same premise. Pitchers will not throw the ball where or how they should and football players will not do what they are supposed to do. But the knowledge and premise should be the same.
The difference is, one is baseball and the other football. Other than to win the game, nothing is remotely the same. Don’t deflect. Stick with baseball.
If all of these are true, if not let me know where I am missing something, then someone has to call the pitches and the plays. My premise is that a coach should know more than a HS kid, because very few college P5 catchers/pitchers call their own games. The coach should call the game or are you still saying the catcher is smarter than the coach?
I wouldn’t argue that a coach SHOULD or SHOULDN'T know more than a HS kid. Of course they should, if for no other reason that they’ve been living longer. And that is precisely why the coach should be teaching the players how to call pitches. But to make the leap that because so many college teams don’t allow the players to call the pitches is the reason not to allow it, just doesn’t make sense. Give me some kind of proof that there's a substantial difference, not just conjecture.
I suppose much of where we disagree comes from how important pitch calling is. You seem to believe as most people do, that poor pitch calling means hitters will likely crush every pitch they swing at, and every ball that gets hit will likely be a safe hit. I believe there’s a lot more luck involved than people want to believe, and there wouldn’t be a substantial difference in the outcome if the best coach called the best pitches based on the best information, or all the pitches a pitcher had command of were put in a hat and drawn for each pitch.