If he is considering a visit to Cal Baptist, be sure to include Concordia Irvine (that noted above has the same degree option). UCSD played them this year and they are a competitive, well-coached team. It is a small but very nice campus surrounded by some nice homes, and it is only about 5 miles from the Pacific Ocean (versus 50 for Riverside). And there is an In-n-Out beside the UC Irvine campus just a few miles away!
Speaking on Corcordia- Irvine, I started doing the research and talking to my kid , and he brought them up before I did. 
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As far as basketball, he talked to the basketball coach and turned down a trip to go outside this summer and informed him of his winter plans. The basketball coach ( great guy) told him he would save a place if he changed his mind and wished him the best. Also told him that he could workout (lift) with the team in the mornings before work.
Just looked up Point Loma Nazarene U in San Diego. It's on line brochure notes its BS in Math leads to careers in actuarial science.
PLNU is in D2 after many years as NAIA. Has one of the prettiest fields and campus in Cal.
Any interest there?
Goosegg posted:Just looked up Point Loma Nazarene U in San Diego. It's on line brochure notes its BS in Math leads to careers in actuarial science.
PLNU is in D2 after many years as NAIA. Has one of the prettiest fields and campus in Cal.
Any interest there?
I guess... if you like that kind of thing.
I would think that all the background wave action would distract from a hitter's eye, plus that weird looking tent sitting on the ground between the mound and 3rd would be a problem, also.
Ahhh... one of my favorite fields... I sorta hoped the kid would end up there (shoulda pulled a Lori Laughlin). Although it didn't really suck having to go down to SD during JC years and occasionally driving up Hwy 1 to SF after that. The facilities at PLU are actually surpringly a bit old and ragged. But with that backdrop, it translates into "character".
And, PLU is doing quite well already at D2 level, qualified and currently playing in regionals.
I graduated from there in 1992 
Update:
We just finished the Alaska Legion season for 2019.
2019: Great summer, earned money working, worked out all summer, great season, 2-1, 17 IP =24Ks. Consistently 85-90 mph-just finished packing for AZ. His New HC says conditioning starts in a week.....Whew!
2021 had a great season. Pitching was great 3-0 2 SV 20.1 IP 29K 6 BB. Made All-State as a Infielder. Hit a couple of HRs for Legion.
2021 Was invited to a MLB scout showcase this summer. He got his measurables done by a 3rd party there: 86 FB 72 CV 76 CH, 6.79 60yd, 86 EV, 87 IF from SS. He's 6'1, 157 lb. Still scrawny in my eyes. Won't be able to go to a showcase this year but will attend the Senior Fall Classic in AZ in October. He will pitch and be a SS/OF.
Question? Some of the scouts took his phone number and asked him some questions about the what positions he likes playing,etc. I would say pretty vanilla stuff to ask a 2021. Why would they taking his phone numbers? They talked to me, but it was more about the fishing in the area . After reading the Forum, i know better than to be "that dad". Our HC talked to a few of them.
We started preparing a video to send out to schools he has got a interest in and will send it out as soon as it is complete.
Thanks again for the replies and messages. Alaska does not have the network of baseball recruiting or as many showcases for kids to be noticed, but with your help, along with some friends, my boy (2019) has been able to get noticed and gets to play college ball in the lower 48. We only had approximately 288 kids playing Legion AA baseball.
Alaskan posted:Update:
We just finished the Alaska Legion season for 2019.
2019: Great summer, earned money working, worked out all summer, great season, 2-1, 17 IP =24Ks. ..
2021 had a great season. Pitching was great 3-0 2 SV 20.1 IP 29K 6 BB. ..
Question? Some of the scouts took his phone number and asked him some questions about the what positions he likes playing,etc. .. Why would they taking his phone numbers? ... Our HC talked to a few of them.
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Congrats, Alaskan! Sounds like things are headed the right direction for both. Just so funny to hear of successful seasons for top P's to be just 17+ and 20+ innings.
Regarding your question about why they took phone numbers, sounds like the HC that talked to a few of them would be who you want to get specific feedback from.
Continued best.
Our top 3 pitchers (JUCO returners) threw 35 ,37, and 40 IP. We only played 37 (223 IP total ) games including playoffs. The talent level really varies from game to game depending on who you are playing.
Congratulations on your son's journey so far. I love to follow these stories.
cabbagedad posted:Ahhh... one of my favorite fields... I sorta hoped the kid would end up there (shoulda pulled a Lori Laughlin). Although it didn't really suck having to go down to SD during JC years and occasionally driving up Hwy 1 to SF after that. The facilities at PLU are actually surpringly a bit old and ragged. But with that backdrop, it translates into "character".
And, PLU is doing quite well already at D2 level, qualified and currently playing in regionals.
I have a relative who played and graduated there. He loved the experience and the baseball program. They play against some top notch teams in their division (Azusa Pac, Dixie St., etc). I think last year there was a coaching change but heard it's still a great program.
I know it is tough to do given your location, but it might be time to get your 2021 off that legion team and send him south for a few tournaments this summer. He has great measurables and I'm sure he would stand out with some of the brand name teams this summer - even if he's only a guest player.
I don't know how realistic that is given the geography, financial situation, work situation, etc. But it is something at least worth looking into and it would be doing a great service to your son. Either way, sounds like he's doing very well.
PABASEBALL wrote “he has great measurables and I’m sure he would stand out.....”
I attend Showcases regularly looking for JuCo players. There are only a few things that turn a coaches head at these events. A sub 6.6 sixty time will do it. So will 90 mph + FB velo on the mound. A hitter that makes a different sound when the ball comes off his bat will do it too. But that’s about it. Nobody cares what exit velo a kid can generate off a tee with a Happy Gilmore swing. Nobody cares if a kid throws 85 across the diamond vs 89. Coaches recruit kids that are good players after they have seen them play in person with their own eyes. Good players have great hands and feet. They also have good instincts. They know how to run the bases, they take good angles to the ball, they know what base to throw to, and they have intangibles - like heart and leadership qualities. None of those things can be measured but they are the things that determine whether a player is recruitable. Just my 2 cents but most coaches I know have the same opinion.
adbono posted:PABASEBALL wrote “he has great measurables and I’m sure he would stand out.....”
I attend Showcases regularly looking for JuCo players. There are only a few things that turn a coaches head at these events. A sub 6.6 sixty time will do it. So will 90 mph + FB velo on the mound. A hitter that makes a different sound when the ball comes off his bat will do it too. But that’s about it. Nobody cares what exit velo a kid can generate off a tee with a Happy Gilmore swing. Nobody cares if a kid throws 85 across the diamond vs 89. Coaches recruit kids that are good players after they have seen them play in person with their own eyes. Good players have great hands and feet. They also have good instincts. They know how to run the bases, they take good angles to the ball, they know what base to throw to, and they have intangibles - like heart and leadership qualities. None of those things can be measured but they are the things that determine whether a player is recruitable. Just my 2 cents but most coaches I know have the same opinion.
"He got his measurables done by a 3rd party there: 86 FB, 6.79 60yd, 86 EV, 87 IF. He's 6'1, 157 lb. Still scrawny in my eyes."
For a 16 year old that doesn't even weigh 160 lbs that is extremely projectable. There are levels to this. Lanky sophomore throwing hard will get interest. Senior is the same position no so much. I suggested putting him on a brand name team that way he doesn't have to turn heads at showcases, they will already be coming to him.
I still disagree about the heart and leadership. That doesn't determine if a player is recruitable - his talent does. Coaches are seeing these guys 5 or 6 times before they offer in individual showcases and summer games where wins and losses don't really mean anything. Yeah a coach can ask around, but the truth is you can't measure heart, leadership, or any of that at a showcase/camp. Not everybody needs to be a leader. On a roster of 30+ guys the leaders will step up on their own and they will almost always be juniors and seniors that have been around and know the ropes
PABaseball posted:adbono posted:PABASEBALL wrote “he has great measurables and I’m sure he would stand out.....”
I attend Showcases regularly looking for JuCo players. There are only a few things that turn a coaches head at these events. A sub 6.6 sixty time will do it. So will 90 mph + FB velo on the mound. A hitter that makes a different sound when the ball comes off his bat will do it too. But that’s about it. Nobody cares what exit velo a kid can generate off a tee with a Happy Gilmore swing. Nobody cares if a kid throws 85 across the diamond vs 89. Coaches recruit kids that are good players after they have seen them play in person with their own eyes. Good players have great hands and feet. They also have good instincts. They know how to run the bases, they take good angles to the ball, they know what base to throw to, and they have intangibles - like heart and leadership qualities. None of those things can be measured but they are the things that determine whether a player is recruitable. Just my 2 cents but most coaches I know have the same opinion.
"He got his measurables done by a 3rd party there: 86 FB, 6.79 60yd, 86 EV, 87 IF. He's 6'1, 157 lb. Still scrawny in my eyes."
For a 16 year old that doesn't even weigh 160 lbs that is extremely projectable. There are levels to this. Lanky sophomore throwing hard will get interest. Senior is the same position no so much. I suggested putting him on a brand name team that way he doesn't have to turn heads at showcases, they will already be coming to him.
I still disagree about the heart and leadership. That doesn't determine if a player is recruitable - his talent does. Coaches are seeing these guys 5 or 6 times before they offer in individual showcases and summer games where wins and losses don't really mean anything. Yeah a coach can ask around, but the truth is you can't measure heart, leadership, or any of that at a showcase/camp. Not everybody needs to be a leader. On a roster of 30+ guys the leaders will step up on their own and they will almost always be juniors and seniors that have been around and know the ropes
There is too much emphasis on posting measurables and not enough emphasis on improving play on the field. That is my point and most coaches agree with me. I’m giving you a different perspective. You aren’t obligated to listen or agree.
ADBONO;
is there a "measurable" for "baseball intelligence", the 6th Tool and "desire to compete"?
It is called "non verbal" communication. Watch the player when he departs his car before practice or the game. Is the cell phone turn off. Is he walking tall and carrying his own equipment. If he is a hitter where is the bat? Is his shoes shined? Shirt "tucked in".
Cap squared in his head. "Is he ready to play"? Where is his water bottle?
Bob
"founder" of the Area Code games and Goodwill Series Int'l
Consultant posted:ADBONO;
is there a "measurable" for "baseball intelligence", the 6th Tool and "desire to compete"?
It is called "non verbal" communication. Watch the player when he departs his car before practice or the game. Is the cell phone turn off. Is he walking tall and carrying his own equipment. If he is a hitter where is the bat? Is his shoes shined? Shirt "tucked in".
Cap squared in his head. "Is he ready to play"? Where is his water bottle?
Bob
"founder" of the Area Code games and Goodwill Series Int'l
Thanks, Bob. You are making my case for me.
New News:
A MLB scout/friend that was up here this summer called Mom and I over the weekend and offered a spring scout team spot for FEB/March he would like to see him on if a roster spot was available. He said the 2021 is still young but would like to see him compete against some kids down in the lower 48.
I talked with the HC about if anything was said on 2021. He said they asked where 2019 was and where he was going to college, if the kid (2021) was going anywhere else this summer and when we started the HS season.
Concerning intangibles:
I've never had to worry about the 2021 playing hard or his heart. He's always chased his Big brothers,older players and always wants to be the "Alpha" or the winner.. He's always been around our program since he was a 6th grader.
My concern is the connection/recruiting process living in Alaska. So all the numbers are on the video the 3rd party made. Stalker, Laser, the whole gambit. They did a great job.We will use that to send out to colleges this month.
Traveling out:
We are contemplating a 18U team in Seattle for the Junior going to Senior year rather than Legion. Lots of things are up in the air. Using your comments and suggestions have helped me to get mom on board more. Now that 2019 is leaving Mom and the rest of the kids are grown, She seems to be willing to try...( I think there will be some traveling for her if this happens.
I'll keep you updated.
Depends on the level recruiting. They want the measurable AND the game play. I watched a lefty kid come in throwing 81-83 and completely shutdown a team of P5 commits and no one cared. There were probably 10 P5 coaches there and no one talked to him at all. You can throw a perfect game throwing 85-86... P5 coaches won’t even look. There are too many kids in that pool. They want it all, and if you only have 1...it better be velo (obviously just speaking for pitchers).