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You are one of the good guys in the MLB today.
Please do not take this the wrong way.

You went on national and local TV today - and said there was "no better place to shut the fans up than Yankee Stadium". I do believe all New York fans heard your message loud and clear.

My advice to you - even though you do not need it - would be to make those statements after you beat the Yankees - and not prior to getting your as* kicked in front of 50,000 Yankees fans.

Now - please sit on the pine - and shut up.
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My 18 year old son's English assignment was to write a ballad about a current event. Even though he is an Astro fan I think he hit the nail on the head.


The Stage Was Set by Tyler Carlson

The stage was set, a New York night
The fans they lost their minds
A play gone bad unleashed the fad
Wreaked havoc of all kinds

The cops were called to solve it all
As safety lost its hold
But would the fuzz defuse the buzz
Before the mood grew cold

The game went on the Sox grew strong
Momentum switched their way
The Yankee pride had lost its stride
As Schilling saved the day

Don't close the book on the Red Sox
Their season is not through
They lived to play another day
Let this inspire you
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Originally posted by itsinthegame:
You went on national and local TV today - and said there was "no better place to shut the fans up than Yankee Stadium".

If this strikes you as "in your face" trash talking then you are, to say the least, a very sensitive person. I've heard it said in all the major sports, time & again, that players love to go out and silence the crowd on the road. I think it's obvious to most people outside of New York that it must be especially pleasing to quiet a New York crowd as they obviously can be rather vocal and shall we say.....slightly obnoxios and oh yeah....rude and maybe a little ....um..fowl mouthed.

Granted, he didn't quiet the crowd in game 1 but Schilling certainly earned his ....um...stripes...shall we say by displaying the kind of guts he showed in game 6 and again in game 2 of the World Series.
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Originally posted by itsinthegame:
Shilling should keep his blowhole shut - pitch well - and let the fans do the talking.

Lastly - at $10-15 million per year - he better show some guts.

He's certainly well paid but to potentially put the remainder of his career on the line by playing with this injury is something that many fans find admirable. That kind of passion isn't exactly easily found among today's players.

By the way, for all the money paid to these players the owners actually like them to communicate with the press. They've discovered that fans enjoy reading quotes in the paper and seeing interviews on tv.
When he said it I was disapointed. It was out of left field and good bulletin board stuff. He bought into the rivalry. I let it slide and figured he learned something when he lost.

I was happy he let his play do his talking in Game 6, ashe did the rest of the year.

The NY press is pounding him; Who cares.
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As inspirational and impressive as he is on days he pitches, that's how annoying and insufferable Curt Schilling is on all other days. Yesterday was particularly bad because Schilling had a microphone in front of him instead of a batter and was called upon to talk about his three favorite subjects: Me, myself and I. ...

Yet it's hard to fathom a player who's more self-centered, self-aggrandizing and in-your-face than the con man they call "Shill."


News Day- Jon Heyman

I can't make character judgements about somebody based on a few innings work. He had a great year and didn't quit, or let up when he got hurt. Guts fits, I think.
I understand.

For me - Admirable would be winning and losing with class and keeping your mouth shut.

The guy went out and pitched a baseball game.
Big deal. He gets paid alot of money to do just that. I find nothing admirable about that - other than the fact that he went out and earned his keep - just like we all do.

The bloodsoaked sock - the "true grit" profile - is just a bunch of bs hype that generates good sales numbers for the media. The guy has a minor injury that he is playing through. So what? My guess is they will start comparing him to Audie Murphy soon.

Lets be honest about it - I wonder how many people would like to watch the game with a real announcer (instead of the McCarvers and Bucks of the world). No bs - just baseball.

It would be nice. Just once.
Of course - just my opinion.
Don't start me on FOX. The broadcast is very disapointing. I'm hoping for a short series now and one of the main reasons is FOX. I just can't look at another ad for Dr. House, Obnoxious Boss, or Nanny 911.

I hate starting the half inning with the ball half way to the plate.

McCarver and Buck were huge Yankee homers until game 7 of the ALCS, it was sickening. They finally quit cheering for the Cards at the end of game 2 of the WS.

Thank God they canned catcher cam, but thet traded it in for "Dirt Cam", a camera sticking out of the ground. Please, end the misery.
The announcers for Fox have been driving me crazy Mad ...I believe there should be a local sportscaster in there with them who can provide accurate info on these teams...some of the junk they have been reporting is completely bogus and untrue..I find myself talking to the TV more often than not which if you have been in the business I am in and for as long this is not a good sign....need to find a new pass time
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Dad, the Sons of Sam Horn don't entirely agree with your pro-Cards assessment Wink

Fox Coverage

...and I know I don't. But when you're out-of-town and get most of your team's coverage on WGN and TBS, you learn to tune the announcers out.

The camera work on Fox, however, can't be 'tuned out'. I can only assume that the director, producer, and camera operators have heard of baseball, but never actually seen the game played. Anybody watching knows the laundry list of problems, so I'll only add that it has seriously handicapped my enjoyment of both the LCS and the WS.
Orlando

Maybe I'm too sensative too. LOL. It just seemed to me that they were overcoaching from the press box, mostly for the Cards. I read and post on SoSH, but I can't keep up with 12 posts per second. I let the stat nazi's do their thing then look for the summary and see if it makes sense.

I like that site though. Schilling takes stuff for being over dramatic, but if you read his posts from 3AM after the games, you know its for real. He really is into it and the rest are believing too.

At TBS at least, I think they tired of what great athletes the Braves pitchers were, which went on for years.

The NESN coverage is nearly cable access quality compared to the glitzy, star studded YES Network, but I enjoy the frumpy, low budget(stingy), New England quality of it.

After Games 4-7 of the ALCS I watched the hand-wringing post-mortems on YES. Very satifying to say the least.
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Originally posted by Orlando:
The camera work on Fox, however, can't be 'tuned out'. I can only assume that the director, producer, and camera operators have heard of baseball, but never actually seen the game played. Anybody watching knows the laundry list of problems, so I'll only add that it has seriously handicapped my enjoyment of both the LCS and the WS.

When they start focusing the camera on people in the stands it drives me nuts. I get it when there's somebody with an amusing sign or a funny costume, and even some of the more emotional expressions. Most of the time, however, I start thinking that I should know this person. That it must be a movie star or a sports star. Sometimes it is, but most of the time it's nobody. Yet I still spend time racking my brain trying to place the face.
Personally, I can't stand it when athletes give "testimony" after a big performance or win. Whether sincere or not, it often comes across as phony, TV evangelism to me. Thank God privately for the talents and gifts He has blessed you with, but public "preachiness" just sounds corny and hypocritical in the realm of competition.

Does anyone really believe that God was a Sox fan this year and made the Cards roll over and play dead? Or that He decided NOT to listen to the prayers of the St. Louis faithful (players and fans)? I don't think so.
PAMom...I think the first word of your post("personally") speaks to the issues you mentioned.

Although one's relationship with Jesus Christ IS personal, that does not necessarily make it private. For one to say that God was with US today would probably lend to the argument of downplaying the other side's faith; but, to acknowledge God's Hand in one's individual successes is not "hypocritical" in and of itself. That would have to be determined on an individual case basis...and sometimes in the "realm of competition", with emotions strongly involved, it may be quickly spoken in a different manner than if a little more time and thought were given...especially by those who may be deemed still "young in the faith".

For those of us who recognize Jesus Christ as our Lord, we also recognize that there is not only a personal relationship, but also a "public calling", chat and to be able to have a national venue in order to express our gratitude (as Pujols also had, even though not a victor in THIS realm of competition) would be a great honor. I would hope that this explanation (desiring to be "non-preachy" Wink) would help take away some of the corniness. Smile
I agree with the fact that players should not bring religion into a game after they have won, in this case, why dont they deny God when they lose? As if God really cares about something so insignificant as a sporting event. It is one thing to thank God for allowing you to be in the position to accomplish things, which Schilling also did in his post-game, on-field interview, but honestly, can we stop thanking God for a win? I think God has bigger things to deal with. JMO
IMO - I dont understand why anyone would care what Curt Shillings' beliefs are.

Its sorta like talking about Jane Fonda's political beliefs or Deion Sanders religious stance.

They are all pretty much self absorbed clowns that need public attention - in addition to vast gobs of money.

May I add (LOL) - I really dont think the Supreme Being cares about Curt Shilling's fastball.

Curt thinks he does - and good for him.

I just wish he (Curt - not the Supreme Being LOL) would shut his ever widening blowhole.
I agree with PAMom. I believe one's relationship with God is intensely personal, and wonder what is being accomplished by these testimonials.

The Diety is frequently thanked after sporting events; it was once more common with boxing and football (which I found rather odd, given the nature of those sports) than baseball.

Our Albert has been public with his beliefs, including the time he maintained that it was 'in God's plan' for his contract to be somewhat richer. That sort of thing, as well as tantrums, trash talking, and/or headhunting by players who choose to advertise their status with God certainly does lead some of us to questions.

I remember the story some years ago (when few players had the habit), a batter crossing himself at the plate. The pitcher then did likewise, and called out, "Now who's he going to help!"

Feeling uncomfortable with or questioning the practice of athletes' being publically demonstrative about their faith in no way implies that faith is less important to the questioner. (As I have heard from people of similiar public proclivity when this view is expressed).

I also agree with its -- hearing their religious beliefs is quite the same as hearing their political ones. Would people who feel the same way as Curt does about religion applaud his right if he chose that time to express an opposing political view?
Its...
I love your
consistancy!

Orlando...
I remember the story some years ago (when few players had the habit), a batter crossing himself at the plate. The pitcher then did likewise, and called out, "Now who's he going to help!"
That is perfect!

And PAMom

I agree...You don't have to talk the talk if you are walking the walk.
If a player can hit - He will show us!
If a player can pitch - He will show us!

Likewise about faith.

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