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Originally posted by dcflash:
That is too bad, things change, I guess. I might be mistaken but both Vernon Wells and Choo Freeman
played with the Mustangs the summer they were drafted in Round 1 ( Wells) and round 1A for Freeman. I guess there is a difference among the
"advisors" ( agents) that each player uses in these situations.


Any unsigned player COULD play, but agents won't
let them.


And BTW, it's not always the agents. A lot of times it's the team that drafted them that won't let them play.
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Originally posted by Tx-Husker:
5-0 Tigers ... Final clapping

Raphael Pineda started, JT Autrey in relief.


Wes Jones from Flower Mound (High or Marcus) came in yesterday to help at ss. He needs to change his name to Hoover or Babe. Great Game by this one and ALL the Tigers.


Jones is a 2011 from Flower Mound High School.
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Wes Jones was added to the roster after Colton Cain signed with the Pirates. Great pickup. Wes hit 2 doubles and had a great game.


Wes is a great kid and a great pick up.

As for the addition by subtraction, is there a AABC rule that allows for a pick up if a player signs a pro contract?

I'm confused as to the relationship of Colton signing and Wes being picked up. Was there a roster spot open prior to departure from DFW?

Colton didn't play SS did he?
From the AABC Handbook, Rule 105(a):

Rosters which have been certified for Tournament play may not bechanged (no players may be dropped or added) except:
(a) Any player who is inducted into active Armed Services Duty, including National Guard, or any player who dies, or any player who is signed to a Professional Baseball Contract by a Major League Organization.
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Originally posted by Dillon:
From the AABC Handbook, Rule 105(a):

Rosters which have been certified for Tournament play may not bechanged (no players may be dropped or added) except:
(a) Any player who is inducted into active Armed Services Duty, including National Guard, or any player who dies, or any player who is signed to a Professional Baseball Contract by a Major League Organization.


Very interesting.....

Good nugget there Dillon.

That makes 21 DBAT Mustang Carpenter players + 5 DBAT Mustang Guthrie players =

26 DBAT Mustang players playing in the greatest event on earth.........FARMINGTON.
FARMINGTON - Dylan Evans pitched a gutsy six innings to keep the Thunder in reach, but Tigers' pitcher Rafael Pineda had too much bite on his sweeping curveball for the Four Corners hitters as they fell into the loser's bracket with a 5-0 loss.

The public address announcer asked attendants to "get cozy" before Monday night's game, with the 6,100-seat Ricketts Park packed to capacity. Sadly, the home fans didn't get the show they bargained for in the second round of the 45th annual Connie Mack World Series.

Pineda, a Texas A&M signee who stands 6-foot-4, mystified the Thunder as he struck out 11 and allowed just two hits through six innings. The Thunder scrapped together two brief rallies in the sixth and the seventh, but the Tigers were too much as they consistently threatened.

"We didn't get any runs across, but the guys played hard," Thunder head coach Rob Coddington said of his team, which consists of 11 players from Durango, seven from Farmington and two from Dallas.

"They're a hard-working group of guys," Coddington said. "They kept talking in the dugout, trying to figure it out. They didn't give up."

The Tigers opened the scoring in the top of the first. Second basemen Austin Elkins reached on an error from Four Corners counterpart Morgan McCasland, then the Tigers' Major League Baseball prospect Jacob Morris walked, slugger Chase Durham sacrificed, Jonathan Walsh walked and Brad Picha knocked a blooper into left for a single and a 2-0 lead.

Durango High School product Tyler McKnight led off the bottom of the first with an 0-2 single through the right side. The hope was fleeting, though, as Pineda buckled down and struck out his first of double digits.

"Just a fantastic kid. He's raw. His better days are ahead of him, but he's got a passion for the game, and he loves to compete," Tigers head coach Tommy Hernandez said.

"With the fans, the atmosphere, the excitement, he threw well (Monday). I was proud of him."

Dallas added another run in the third inning, when Walsh singled through the right side of the infield, advanced twice on a sacrifice bunt and a groundout, then scored on Drew Verhagen's single up the middle.

Evans, picked up from the Farmington Cardinals before the CMWS, fought valiantly to keep the Division I-talent-laden Tigers from breaking it open, but they added an insurance run in the fifth frame when Walsh, a San Francisco Giants draft pick, doubled and scored his second run, while Verhagen notched his second RBI with a groundout to second.

It became a five-run deficit in the bottom of the sixth. Wes Jones led off the inning with his second double to deep left center, and Morris brought him home on a sacrifice fly to right.

The Four Corners Thunder showed sparks briefly in the sixth when McCasland was plunked by Pineda, and J.T. Bean walked, but former Durango High School catcher Chas Tabone flied out to left center to end the inning.

Fireballer J.T. Autrey came in for Dallas in the top of the seventh, and Jake McCasland met him with a hard liner into center field. Danny Simonson coaxed a walk, and the fans came to their feet in hopes of witnessing a late-night miracle.

Autrey settled in, though, inducing a groundout from pinch hitter Ben Southworth, striking out John Ugai and retiring McKnight on a slow chopper to third to put their second win of the CMWS in the books.

Evans, who will pitch for Mesa State next year, struck out five and allowed seven hits in the loss.

"Dylan threw a heck of a game," Bean said. "That was the perfect guy to throw this game. He was lights out, pretty much. We had errors that gave up probably three of those runs."

Bean had two walks for the Thunder, with Jake McCasland, McKnight and Simonson collecting the only Four Corners hits - all singles.

The Thunder, as the host team, will play in the late game despite moving to the loser's bracket to play another Dallas-area team, the D-Bat Mustangs at 7:30 p.m. today.

The Mustangs were beaten 10-1 by the Florida Legends in the opening round, then beat the Danville Hoots 7-6 in the loser's bracket Sunday.

"I know that they hit the ball really well, just like the Tigers," Bean said. "We were told we just need to put the ball in play and make things happen, and we should be OK."

After the third round, which will be completed today at Ricketts Park in Farmington, pairings will be determined by the official rulebook of the American Amateur Baseball Congress.

The Thunder can still win the tournament, but not if they lose another game.

"They're all must-wins now," Coddington said.


Duarango Herald Aug 11th
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Very interesting.....

Good nugget there Dillon.

That makes 21 DBAT Mustang Carpenter players + 5 DBAT Mustang Guthrie players =

26 DBAT Mustang players playing in the greatest event on earth.........FARMINGTON.


That's VERY VERY Impressive (especially with 3 of them being 2011's)!!!
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Thunder's tournament run fades after opening win
By Christopher Smith The Daily Times
Posted: 08/12/2009 12:27:06 AM

FARMINGTON — The Connie Mack World Series party sizzled and fizzled in a hurry for the Four Corners Thunder.
The Thunder started the tournament with a roar and left with a whimper, losing 7-0 to the Dallas DBAT Mustangs in an elimination game Monday at Ricketts Park.

Pitching against their own baseball academy, Andy Blum and Sean O'Connor's wildness generated a catastrophic start for the Thunder. The Four Corners added the pair of right-handers before the Connie Mack World Series, plucking them from the Mustangs' 17-and-younger team. Blum and O'Connor combined for seven walks, a hit batter, two wild pitches and an error in 2 1-3 innings. "They were a little shaky tonight, but I think both of them will go on to do great things," said Thunder coach Rob Coddington, hesitant to say anything resembling criticism. "They're both very hard workers, they were great to have down at practice."

The pitching didn't approximate the Thunder arms that cruised through the regular season. The team's bedrock all summer, Coddington figured his players would have a chance if they scored runs. An inspiring opening start by Jake McCasland aside, the Thunder's pitching fared no better than their lineup and devolved as the tournament progressed.

The host team beat the South Troy (N.Y.) Dodgers 7-3 Friday before losing to the two Dallas teams by a combined 12-0.
Blum started the game with four strikes, but seven of his next eight pitches missed the zone. Blum plunked designated hitter Josh Turley on the first pitch and walked Max Muncy before Preston Beck's two-RBI double into the right field corner vaulted the Mustangs into the lead before the game's second out.

Blum's demons remained latched to his right arm despite a visit by Coddington. He walked two more batters and committed an error on a comebacker that scored Beck. The Mustangs left the bases loaded as ninth hitter Brett Doe rolled a slow grounder to the shortstop and Blum's day ended after two innings. He threw 30 balls in 54 pitches.

His replacement, fellow 17-and-younger Mustangs pitcher Sean O'Connor, fared no better, walking three and throwing two wild pitches in the third. John Michael Twichell slapped an RBI single past a drawn-in infield and scored on an error to press the Mustangs' advantage to 5-0 as O'Connor left with the bases loaded. Clayton Parks induced an inning-ending double play and pitched 3 2-3 innings of scoreless ball, which Coddington called "the highlight of the night."

The Thunder's bats were as placid as the weather at the CMWS, shut out over their final 15 tournament innings on four hits. Chas Tabone jabbed a grounder through the right side of the infield in the second inning for the team's only hit off Corey Brooks, who through a complete game.

Jake McCasland, the hero in the win over the South Troy (N.Y.) Dodgers, struck out with two on and no outs in the second during the team's only threat. Brooks needed four pitches to retire McCasland's Piedra Vista teammates Danny Simonson and Morgan McCasland.

"We might've tried to do a little too much but experience like that is something to build on," Coddington said. "Some of those guys are real great hitters. They won't settle for that. they'll work hard. They'll get themselves better. A lot of them are going to be integral parts of their teams next year and they'll turn that into a positive."
Mustangs manager Sam Carpenter lauded Brooks for his competitive nature. Brooks mixed several pitches and stayed ahead in the count, retiring the final 13 batters he faced after Dylan Evans grounded into a double play in the third inning.
"If I get ahead in the count I can always throw my curveball and I know it's a good pitch and hard to hit," Brooks said. "I feel fine. I could throw a couple more innings, I think. I've thrown a lot this summer and I've taken good care of my arm."

Although Coddington weighed his words carefully, Carpenter admitted his opponents didn't look sharp. The Thunder committed four errors and allowed 10 batters to reach first on walks or hit by pitches.
"They didn't play their normal game. They gave us some runs that normally they would not give us," Carpenter said. "We were really fortunate." The fans made a half-hearted attempt at the wave during the middle innings, leaving in droves before the game's completion.

The somber mood in the dugout underscored the Thunder's competitive nature, Coddington said, noting the team felt disappointed despite winning its opener. "I think we would've liked to have done better. I mean, who wouldn't have?" he said. "They're very supportive of one another. That's one thing that was pretty cool when some of these other guys got in the game a little bit here and there. You heard nothing but positive from these guys.
"I'm proud of what they did all summer." Coddington said he wasn't sure if he'd return to coach the team next year.
The Mustangs advance to play the Illinois Sparks today at 5:15 p.m. Their bats perked up following a 10-1 loss to the Florida Legends in the opener, scoring seven runs in each of their next two games.

Brooks, who is staying with five teammates at a host family with four children of their own, has plenty of social options to take his mind off baseball between games.

"I'm feeling good about this. We came back strong the last two games and we have plenty of pitching left and hopefully we'll make it to the game Friday," he said.

Game 12
Dallas DBAT Mustangs 7, Four Corners Thunder 0
Mustangs (2-1) 302 000 2 — 7 5 0
Thunder (1-2) 000 000 0 — 0 1 4
Thunder eliminated from CMWS
WP: Corey Brooks. LP: Andy Blum. 2B: M — Preston Beck, Abel Baker. LH: T — Chas Tabone 1-3. M — Beck 2-3, 2B, 2 RBI.
Box Scores last night:

Dallas DBAT Mustangs 11, Illinois Sparks 3, 6 innings

Sparks (1-2) 120 000 — 3 6 3

Mustangs (3-1) 006 221 — 11 10 0

Sparks eliminated from CMWS

WP: Archie Bradley. LP: Mike Foltyniewicz. 2B: M — Abel Baker. LH: S — Bob Schuch 2-3, RBI; Jack Deano 2-3, run; M — Baker 2-3, 2B, 3 RBI, run; Preston Beck 2-3, RBI, run.



Midland (Ohio) Redskins 8, Dallas Tigers 5

Redskins (4-0) 010 130 3 — 8 8 0

Tigers (2-1) 100 003 1 — 5 12 3

WP: Blake Dieterich. LP: Crayton Bare. 2B: R — Conrad Gregor; Dane Phillips. T — Chase Durham; Jonathan Walsh. LH: R — Phillips 3-4, RBI, run. T — Bo Altobelli 2-4, RBI, run.
Ironic (to me at least) that this Tigers team - that many of us have followed and come to admire over the years -- are battling with a SS named Jones and a catcher named Altobelli. I know these guys are greast players too but....it just seems a little odd. I still hope the Dallas teams have enough to set up a Friday night matchup for the trophy. Cool
The box score does not accurately reflect what transpired in the Redskins vs. Tigers game, they only had seven hits(E1 in the 3rd didn't step on bag) so it was 7 hits to 12 in a very close ball game. I think most of the fans would admit it felt like a 1 to 1 ballgame through the 2nd out of the top of seventh. Great game for both teams excellent pitching, hitting, etc... Tigers came to play just not enough in the end. I guess what I appreciated most about watching is that they play the game the right way, only using gloves to bat with and not to decorate the "UNIFORM", they don't wear catchers gear to the plate, etc... I too wish there would be a DALLAS CHAMPIONSHIP game, and like I told CATCHER from the start we are blessed to have this many great young men from the same neighborhood(Big "D") minus a few Okies(Go OU!!!) Best of luck to the rest of the field it has been ALL it was cracked up to be and more!!!!!
Panther Dad where is the irony, our SS was unable to attend and if you haven't noticed we have been pretty thin since before winning in Phoenix with injuries,aflac, mlb, etc... Just like any other team we are trying our best to get the job done. These coaches are the most loyal to thier players I have ever seen. Six of these guys have been with the Tigers since they were 8/9 and Hernandez has treated them as his own. You cannot find that kinda team in the Dallas area anymore. He is an amazing coach, my son for one in all his 11 years of competitive baseball will say he hasn't had this kind of coaching since Mayhall/Plumlee when he was eight. These guys love the game and truly love coaching---there is a difference. This has been the best year hands down to prepare my son for his college days. Hats off to Heath and Hernandez--no irony to me.
Kettler and DWalsh are injured and JWalsh is playing OF and 1st. Altobelli has been catching for the Tigers since last summer, and doing an awesome job. Like Cat said, between injuries, AFLAC and the MLB, we've been hit hard. But these guys love each other and are having the time of their lives. Five of them have been together since they were 9 and a few more since age 11. Among teams here, most have kids that were recruited from out of state, some from across the country. The Tigers are a rarity.
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Originally posted by tychco:
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Originally posted by Catscradle:
I guess what I appreciated most about watching is that they play the game the right way, only using gloves to bat with and not to decorate the "UNIFORM", they don't wear catchers gear to the plate, etc...


Confused


Would you explain this comment and give specific examples please. Is someone going to the plate with a chest protector on?
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Yeah, I guess the rest of these teams have players that can't stand each other.

Isn't the Tiger SS a DBAT player?

Midland is the only nationally recruited team I could find. Most are regional type teams.

The Tigers are doing well, but hardly the only club that have kids pulling together and competing as brothers.
I have no beef with the Tigers...my younger one plays for them, and I am truly glad both teams are doing well. It speaks well for the DFW youth baseball.

I just see comments like most teams at the CMWS recruit nationally, batters wear catchers equipment to the plate and batting gloves on their uniforms and I like to see support for those comments that's all.

It is too easy to throw opinions out there as facts.
Dear Tycho and Panther Dad,
We all poke a little fun at one another ask Sam, Catcher, Linty, Tommy etc... not criticizing anyone just stating the facts we are blessed that we have so many from Dallas area representing a great State with great BASEBALL. As to the gloves I thought it kinda funny the 3rd baseman from Redskins(awesome player by the way) had gloves hanging out of everywhere. Didn't take away from his play he made some great ones in the field, just a different kinda "UNIFORM". (Ask Catcher about the latin usage of that word). All in fun, I mean no harm, these are exceptional players, my kid is thrilled to be on the same field with some of these guys. Farmington is the MECCA of amateur baseball and it is an honor for parents, players,coaches, and organizations to be here. We all have alot to be thankful for.

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