quote:Originally posted by rhino24:quote:Originally posted by rhino24:quote:Originally posted by madmacks:quote:Originally posted by rhino24:
Be careful stepping on toes there macks- the kid wasn't that bad for four years.
Sorry to step on your toes rhino!!! Hope my edit meets your approval...even though it was correct and not any attack on any kid as you put it. He was a good player for four years but, IMO, he played out of position the last two and it showed defensively which also hurt his offensive numbers. I hope he is doing well.
More importantly, I left off one huge position and that was at first base which needs to be replaced. Several candidates for this one but the DH from last year also saw time at first and should be the leading candidate as his bat was great last season.
macks didn't know you were filling out the line-up card this year. Didn't hurt my toes I'll let his four years as a starter speak for itself. I'll let the coach know to slow down on those corners so not to hurt your nose.
quote:Vladimir Guerrero made a living being undisciplined and swinging at bad pitches. I know, I know, he's no VG. Smile
Please don't anybody take my comments as being negative about this kid. I bet he's really got talent, and great prospects. (And apparently he's got a total of 6 tools, if you count "ALL5".)
VG is not the only guy in the Majors who can get away with being undisciplined at the plate. I sure hate to see it celebrated in HS baseball, though. Scouts or no scouts.
quote:Originally posted by workinghard:
Vladimir Guerrero made a living being undisciplined and swinging at bad pitches. I know, I know, he's no VG.
"you don't get to the majors by walking" Red Murff
and great prospects. QUOTE]
He may have potential, I will give him that, but I want to see this kid play real varsity ball before i say he is extremely talented. He is good on 16U, but my biggest question after seeing him in the 18U game is if he can hang with the "big boys" as my old man called them.
He may have potential, I will give him that, but I want to see this kid play real varsity ball before i say he is extremely talented. He is good on 16U, but my biggest question after seeing him in the 18U game is if he can hang with the "big boys" as my old man called them.
When you all have kids playing college baseball, make sure to come back and re-read your HS posts. You'll find amusement. Of course, 5000+ of my posts are equally insightful.
quote:Originally posted by Panther Dad:
When you all have kids playing college baseball, make sure to come back and re-read your HS posts. You'll find amusement. Of course, 5000+ of my posts are equally insightful.
Panther, I have to admit it does make for interesting reading when we look back on our posts. Sometimes I wonder, "What was I thinking!" Wouldn't it be interesting to all get together face to face and have a HS Baseball round table discussion? Until then, I only have 5,148 more posts to catch up to you! Wait a minute, make that 5,147.
quote:Originally posted by Panther Dad:
When you all have kids playing college baseball, make sure to come back and re-read your HS posts. You'll find amusement. Of course, 5000+ of my posts are equally insightful.
All of mine are still fabulous! Thanks for the tip PD, I always enjoy hearing/reading what I have to say, right Julie?
I love when people say "let see them play Varsity and then we can see how good they are" I might be missing something but last Time I checked only 1 or 2 kids go on to college after there senior year. Most kids that play for there top noch summer team most everyone goes to college and some get drafted. So tell me witch one is better. Varsity baseball is watered down baseball and its coaching is hard to watch and you wonder how this guy can run a program. High school has that one stud that throws hard and a 3 hole hitter that can hit pretty good and thats about it. So you guys that talk about lets see them play varisty get over it. There are Freshman and soph that can dominate a game so stop being haters. Age is just a number. Just can't get over the fact that younger kids can be better then older ones. Again there are some exceptions to the rule. FD I am sure Guthrie would love to be there and give his imput since he know the most on the HSBW lol. First time poster long time looker I feel better had to get that off my chest for years MERRY CHRISTMAS
and you wonder how this guy can run a program. High school has that one stud that throws hard and a 3 hole hitter that can hit pretty good and thats about it. So you guys that talk about lets see them play varisty get over it. There are Freshman and soph that can dominate a game so stop being haters. Age is just a number. Just can't get over the fact that younger kids can be better then older ones. Again there are some exceptions to the rule. FD I am sure Guthrie would love to be there and give his imput since he know the most on the HSBW lol. First time poster long time looker I feel better had to get that off my chest for years MERRY CHRISTMAS
Amen FD!!! 
No, that's a big AMEN
FD
I Agree with you FD. I do think you are one of the best coaches and care about your kids and I should of said MOST coaches. You have turned the Marcus program around and have only have had a positive impact on the Marcus school. This was more toward the parent downgrade underclass players. Mustang subject I agree with you. I hope you can put together that 18 year old team and have the best select team this summer. The hard part is being able to get the best kis lol. Good luck this season and will be pulling for Marcus just don't beat up our Dragons lol . I have lots of respect for what you do and sometime is such a Thankless job. Happy holidays
I Agree with you FD. I do think you are one of the best coaches and care about your kids and I should of said MOST coaches. You have turned the Marcus program around and have only have had a positive impact on the Marcus school. This was more toward the parent downgrade underclass players. Mustang subject I agree with you. I hope you can put together that 18 year old team and have the best select team this summer. The hard part is being able to get the best kis lol. Good luck this season and will be pulling for Marcus just don't beat up our Dragons lol . I have lots of respect for what you do and sometime is such a Thankless job. Happy holidays
Funnel, you running for mayor?
I'll bring the orange slices and Hi-C to the round table meeting.
BTW, we rarely "bring kids in", they generally come to us.
Summer vs. HS = no comparison
When you are comparing summer organizations you must define which levels.
There are a handful of summer programs across the country that are the prolific teams year after year. You will see these teams on a regular basis at the Connie Mack WS.
You want fans and Friday Night Lights? Get you a ticket for Farmington this summer.
As for pressure, the good ones never recognize it. Regardless of candlelight power or the number of beach balls in stands.
I'll bring the orange slices and Hi-C to the round table meeting.
BTW, we rarely "bring kids in", they generally come to us.
Summer vs. HS = no comparison
When you are comparing summer organizations you must define which levels.
There are a handful of summer programs across the country that are the prolific teams year after year. You will see these teams on a regular basis at the Connie Mack WS.
You want fans and Friday Night Lights? Get you a ticket for Farmington this summer.
As for pressure, the good ones never recognize it. Regardless of candlelight power or the number of beach balls in stands.
quote:Originally posted by Robert S.:quote:Originally posted by Panther Dad:
When you all have kids playing college baseball, make sure to come back and re-read your HS posts. You'll find amusement. Of course, 5000+ of my posts are equally insightful.
All of mine are still fabulous! Thanks for the tip PD, I always enjoy hearing/reading what I have to say, right Julie?
I notice that I have the same gift: that all of my past posts seem timeless and visionary beyond the changes that were to come later. Its like I went back in time, and told myself what to post. In fact, I'm sure the future me is guiding myself through this very posting. Kind of like in the 70's when future me said "dress like the BeeGees and learn to dance like Travolta..Disco will last forever..."
quote:Originally posted by funneldrill:quote:Originally posted by Ken Guthrie:
Funnel, you running for mayor?
I'll bring the orange slices and Hi-C to the round table meeting.
BTW, we rarely "bring kids in", they generally come to us.
Summer vs. HS = no comparison
When you are comparing summer organizations you must define which levels.
There are a handful of summer programs across the country that are the prolific teams year after year. You will see these teams on a regular basis at the Connie Mack WS.
You want fans and Friday Night Lights? Get you a ticket for Farmington this summer.
As for pressure, the good ones never recognize it. Regardless of candlelight power or the number of beach balls in stands.
No Ken, I'm not running for mayor, I just call it like I see it.
Sure they come to you guys, because the Mustangs are one of those elite organizations that I mentioned. The only one that is still around (in this area) from when I was in high school 23 years ago and Sam is still the man! The other was DPA.
If you mean Summer vs. HS equals no comparsion, I sure hope you mean that in regards to apples vs. oranges not quality vs. quality.
As for the Friday night lights thing, sure, you would expect that at the WORLD SERIES. I'm talking about Tuesday night vs. Hebron, or Lewisville, or Carroll, or Coppell, or the Jaguars, you know the run of the mill district game in March or April. The fair comparison are the Tuesday nights DH's in the Lone Star League. The good folks in Farmington are going to back that event because it is the only thing they have there. Is that televised live...no? But the Texas High School State Championship is FSSW. Every one of our playoff series were broadcast on the internet, so were a few of our district games. Tuesday nights in the Lone Star League? Connie Mack State Tournament? South Plains Regional? Apples and Oranges my friend, that is my point. Both are great, both are very different.
Apples vs. Oranges...attendance zones vs. open tryouts. HS coaches coach what is in front of them on Jan. 29...select coaches coach who they want. You don't think HS coaches have parents and kids that seek them out too? I'm sure there are some people on this board that could open that can of worms.
Coaching summer ball will be fun, just show up to the park and coach baseball. No faculty meetings, no ARD meetings, no special education training, no lesson plans, no TAKS test training, no TAKS testing, no district wide inservices, no COPE training, no Steroid Training, no booster club meetings, no booster club field workdays, no meeting with architects to plan your new field, no having to move sprinkler heads because they put them in your infield dirt instead of in the grass where they belong...none of that fun stuff!
Apples and Oranges my friend!
Hey man,
If you want to make a mountain out of a molehill...have at it.
High School baseball is nothing more than a social gathering between Pony League All Stars. Moms, dads, girlfriends, and the rowdy squad....grab your Taco Bell and meet up at the ole' ball game. When it's done, check the box score to see how you look in the All District race and then shag for the local keg party and hit goat mans bridge after.
Sure, some programs do it better than most but one freak arm trumps all that tradition.
And I wouldn't trade 105 degrees and 15 fans for all the lights in Vegas along with the Booster Club dads choking down hot dogs and the moms ringing their cow bells like it's their wedding day again.
You mention the Mustangs and Sam. No doubt they held their own in the 80's and 90's. But since you also mentioned the last decade you better look for that four letter word if you want the best. Luckily for both, they are together like swim wear now.
Oh, and HS coaches actually get to practice and implement plays. Try playing 9-10 games in a week. You got enough arms for that ova der at ole' FM Marquis? Let's see you work on that 1st and 3rd in the middle of a double header in the middle of July.
Of course, with all the expert HS coaches around the metromess, all our kids come to us well rehearsed on the fundamentals.
Pressure? Try playing in front of 30+ scouts (yes, it does really happen for some teams) when your future is on the line. Everything you have worked for as a player is on the line.
Last I checked, most college coaches don't make HS games because of schedule conflicts.
Of course, I guess you could consider the AD in the stands checking for wiener slappin' pressure too.
quote:you better look for that four letter word if you want the best
Some would argue that TIGERS is spelled with six letters.
and by your last post, I think that can officially
qualify you as a "JERK".
quote:Originally posted by workinghard:quote:you better look for that four letter word if you want the best
Some would argue that TIGERS is spelled with six letters.
and by your last post, I think that can officially
qualify you as a "JERK".
That's it, I'm calling the AD and implementing a parental interference restraint on you.
Tigers are **** good too.
I do have to admit Ken, you're a good sport and have a good since of humor! Thanks
Peace
Peace
quote:Originally posted by workinghard:
I do have to admit Ken, you're a good sport and have a good since of humor! Thanks
Peace
Thanks,
Please remember to cast your ballot for Hsbaseballweb Coach of the Year.
I need all the votes I can get to beat Funneldrill.
Before I cast my vote I need to know Funneldrills position on the new health care reform bill, I'm sure he has one and would like to share it with his public.
KG - I'm pretty sure I know yours.
Thanks
KG - I'm pretty sure I know yours.
Thanks
I'm with FD on this one. He has to work hard with what he has, limited by attendance zone, talent, support and put the best possible combination on a field in a short amount of time(2 weeks) to try and make a run in the playoffs. That's signs of a true leader!
He doesn't have the oppurtunity to have 2+ months of play from players that make up his team like HS select teams do, or several tryouts to pick 14+ players like select teams do. Those coaches when it comes down to play have it way easier. Of course I have taken out all the outside things that both sides have, but when you break down the play on the field with just the teams HS coaches are very limited and the ones that succeed are the ones that should be highly commended.
I know that your all wanting my affiliation.....its not what you are thinking. I am from the same district but my son will play this season at LHS.
He doesn't have the oppurtunity to have 2+ months of play from players that make up his team like HS select teams do, or several tryouts to pick 14+ players like select teams do. Those coaches when it comes down to play have it way easier. Of course I have taken out all the outside things that both sides have, but when you break down the play on the field with just the teams HS coaches are very limited and the ones that succeed are the ones that should be highly commended.
I know that your all wanting my affiliation.....its not what you are thinking. I am from the same district but my son will play this season at LHS.
Out in LF - "in a short amount of time(2 weeks)"
Are you kidding me, high school coaches have most of their players the fall semester for an hour and a half in a baseball class. If you can't figure it out in a full semester then, well you know.
Are you kidding me, high school coaches have most of their players the fall semester for an hour and a half in a baseball class. If you can't figure it out in a full semester then, well you know.
Come out of your teepee Chief, yes they have fall baseball class with the majority of the more talented players playing the other sport.....but once they get those players back after the new year it on.
quote:with the majority of the more talented players playing the other sport.
Out in LF - Pale face you are sooooo wrong.
quote:you better look for that four letter word if you want the best
Brag much, do you? Don't break your arm patting yourself on the back. Better check your ego-it's the kids in the uniforms, not the name on the uniform.
"Pressure? Try playing in front of 30+ scouts (yes, it does really happen for some teams) when your future is on the line. Everything you have worked for as a player is on the line. "
Sure you aren't talking about yourself here?
Funneldrill - Oh, I get it, smart move going for the sympathy vote. 
I was under the impression that baseball was baseball regardless of when it was played. My mistake.
Funneldrill
Followed by the funneldrillhsbaseballweb.com message board, wait a minute, thats what your trying to turn this message board into.
quote:Can't wait for you to get the selectbaseballweb.com message board going.
Followed by the funneldrillhsbaseballweb.com message board, wait a minute, thats what your trying to turn this message board into.
thought it was the HSbaseball web, and last time I checked FD was a HS coach. It is NOT the dbatbaseballweb, though you couldn't tell by all the camp threads.
Guthrie
Your comments about HS baseball are stunning.Why the attack on the high school programs and the parents.Not all these kids are worthy of being DBATERS but that does not make it bad baseball.Usually enjoy your post,but this last one hurts.
Your comments about HS baseball are stunning.Why the attack on the high school programs and the parents.Not all these kids are worthy of being DBATERS but that does not make it bad baseball.Usually enjoy your post,but this last one hurts.
quote:and last time I checked FD was a HS coach
for now
This is starting to sound like punches at Dbat. Do we really feel that they're program is "watered down?" Or, are those comments only fueled by someone's kid not making one of the Dbat teams? That's not a punch at you BigRed, more of a question for all to consider. Is it really watered down?
quote:Originally posted by Big Red:
I was under the impression that baseball was baseball regardless of when it was played. My mistake.
quote:Originally posted by funneldrill:
I apologize Nocahoma, that last statement of mine was way out of line. Got to go and catch my goat, somebody got a hold of it.
No problem FD, it's all in fun. And by the way my son has been out of school for some time now and is a practicing lawyer with a well known Dallas law firm. Good luck.
Funnel,
Do we need to have a parent teacher conference?
It seems you have a bit of a confidence issue.
I stayed off this thread until you hit the summer ball button.
To be honest, I hope you win the HS World Series or whatever it is you make booklets for to pass out to parents.
"Bullpen" is one word, but if your trying to demean my credentials you should bust on my minor league batting average or my late draft selection. Either way, I'm not ashamed of my bullpen gig. Heck, I was able to sneak Big League Chew from the clubhouse and once Rusty Greer gave me a sweaty wrist band. I still keep it right next to my old Marcus jersey.
Seriously Funnel, does Sport Illustrated interview your kids? How do they handle all that press. I'm going to grab a subscription to the Lewisville Leader this spring to get up to the minute quotes.
"My organization"???
I'm just a coach. (Well, really just a fat old bullpen catcher that fills out a line up card.) But you shouldn't associate my ignorance with whatever 8 teams you are talking about.
Maybe since your jumping into the "summer" ranks we'll get to out dual each other. I've already made up some pretty colored cards for signs to the catcher.
And for that website your talking about... Let me know where to send my address for royalties.
I understand it's stressful to do all that other stuff that doesn't pertain to baseball instruction...
My day job doesn't compare to it by any means. I've got it easy. Get up at 4am, work till 3pm, rush to the yard to throw BP, play 2, head to Gainesville from DBU, get home to kiss my son while he's sleeping, and do it all over again the next day.
Can't wait till he's older. I'll lie to him and tell him I was like the back up to Pudge or something. Little will he know that I was really just the bat boy for the bullpen catcher.
Seriously Funnel, take your AD's advice.
Jabbing with you is like fighting a one legged man in a butt kicking contest.
Do we need to have a parent teacher conference?
It seems you have a bit of a confidence issue.
I stayed off this thread until you hit the summer ball button.
To be honest, I hope you win the HS World Series or whatever it is you make booklets for to pass out to parents.
"Bullpen" is one word, but if your trying to demean my credentials you should bust on my minor league batting average or my late draft selection. Either way, I'm not ashamed of my bullpen gig. Heck, I was able to sneak Big League Chew from the clubhouse and once Rusty Greer gave me a sweaty wrist band. I still keep it right next to my old Marcus jersey.
Seriously Funnel, does Sport Illustrated interview your kids? How do they handle all that press. I'm going to grab a subscription to the Lewisville Leader this spring to get up to the minute quotes.
"My organization"???
I'm just a coach. (Well, really just a fat old bullpen catcher that fills out a line up card.) But you shouldn't associate my ignorance with whatever 8 teams you are talking about.
Maybe since your jumping into the "summer" ranks we'll get to out dual each other. I've already made up some pretty colored cards for signs to the catcher.
And for that website your talking about... Let me know where to send my address for royalties.
I understand it's stressful to do all that other stuff that doesn't pertain to baseball instruction...
My day job doesn't compare to it by any means. I've got it easy. Get up at 4am, work till 3pm, rush to the yard to throw BP, play 2, head to Gainesville from DBU, get home to kiss my son while he's sleeping, and do it all over again the next day.
Can't wait till he's older. I'll lie to him and tell him I was like the back up to Pudge or something. Little will he know that I was really just the bat boy for the bullpen catcher.
Seriously Funnel, take your AD's advice.
Jabbing with you is like fighting a one legged man in a butt kicking contest.
quote:Originally posted by Chief Nocahoma:quote:and last time I checked FD was a HS coach
for now
Okay Cheif Squatting Dog, seriosuly get a grip, you can't honestly think anyone cares about you saying "for now" to a high school coach who happened to get eliminated in the Semi-Finals of last years playoffs and who happens to have an extremely talented team this year plus has on of the top teams the year after that and possible the top sophmore class in the state? Seriously learn who your talking to before you speak.
"Dont write checks that your *** cant cash"
quote:Usually enjoy your post,but this last one hurts.
Rub some dirt on it.
That's what the tough HS kids do when the pressure of the Friday Night Lights get to them.
[QUOTE] you can't honestly think anyone cares about you saying "for now"
all0tools - apparently you do.
all0tools - apparently you do.
Guthrie congrats for living your life as a big leaguer from the bullpen maybe the seven year olds in the stands were fooled thinking you were a player when you signed their plastic baseballs but you don't have anyone on here going. Here's to you. They should make a real men of genius commercial for you. Big leaguer hahaha .
quote:Originally posted by Chief Nocahoma:
[QUOTE]you can't honestly think anyone cares about you saying "for now'
apparently you do.
No, i think its amusing that you think you can scare some high school coach, becaues obvioiusly if you know soooo much about baseball you would be a great coach. I dont see why you dont because i'm sure you'd have a team winning states every year? or maybe, just maybe you are too good for high school and you would be a pro coach?
quote:Originally posted by All5Tools:
just maybe you are too good for high school and you would be a pro coach?
Or a pro Bullpen Catcher.